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Speaker 1: And joining me in the studio right now is the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Attasha Files.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now Chief Finister.

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Speaker 1: Since we last spoke, the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Jamie

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Speaker 1: Chalker has launched legal action to prevent his dismissal. The

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Supreme Court in Darwin last week set aside

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Speaker 1: three days from June seven for the Commissioner well for

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Speaker 1: his case to be heard by Justice Judith Kelly. Will

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Speaker 1: this matter be sorted before that date or do you

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, I don't want to frustrate your listeners. It

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Speaker 4: is a matter that is before the court and I

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Speaker 4: can't comment. We are in negotiations with Commissioner Chalker and

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Speaker 4: I do hope to resolve the matter as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: So are you hoping that you reach a point where

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Speaker 1: you can finalize those negotiations before it goes to court?

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, as a matter has been commenced in the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court, I'm aware of reports discussing that, but I

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Speaker 4: can't provide any further comments on it. My focus is

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Speaker 4: Police Force, who are doing an enormous job across the territory.

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Speaker 1: They're doing a hugely enormous job at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: The ABC has reported that during that court hearing last Monday,

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Speaker 1: mister Talker's counsel Arthur Moses sc said that you had

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Speaker 1: sent mister Talker letter late last month that included four allegations,

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Speaker 1: including one that mister Talker had asked the Australian Defense

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Speaker 1: the record saying that that was not required. Are you

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Speaker 1: or the Federal Police?

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Speaker 4: Katie, I can't comment on those matters that are before

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Speaker 4: the court, and I appreciate that, you know, the community

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Speaker 4: have a right to know certain information. But as this

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Speaker 4: matters before the court and we're trying to negotiate in

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Speaker 4: good faith, I'm very restricted in what I can say.

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of is there has been calls for the Federal Police

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Speaker 1: can gather from this report, you've said in that letter

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Speaker 1: that he had sought that a seat, but he'd been

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Speaker 2: I think what territorians probably.

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Speaker 1: Want to know is, you know, were we in a

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Speaker 3: In and help Katie. I can't comment.

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Speaker 4: What I can say is that Deputy Commissioner Murphy continues

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Speaker 4: and that arrangement will continue to ensure there's no prejudice

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Speaker 1: So is a Northern Territory government prepared to pay the

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Speaker 1: police commissioner out to avoid what could become a very

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Speaker 4: Katie, I'm very restricted in what I can say, and

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Speaker 4: I don't want to sound repetitive for the sake of it.

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Speaker 3: I know that that frustrates people.

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Speaker 4: But I can just point to that comment that we're

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Speaker 2: Are you hoping it gets sorted quickly?

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Speaker 4: Katie, I'm very restricted in what I can say, but

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Speaker 1: All right, Last week, Marian Scrimjaw, Labour's Federal member for Lingiari,

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Speaker 1: spoke to skuy News about an abhorrence situation that she'd

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Speaker 1: Lavity was fatally stabbed at that same location. Now, she

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Speaker 1: this situation says about resourcing within the Northern Territory Police Force.

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Speaker 4: So Katie and I need to be careful not to

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Speaker 4: But in terms of police and that the calls going

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like if you've got a situation where

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Speaker 1: And I want to say right from the outset that

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Speaker 2: No matter how you look at it, this issue is

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Speaker 1: Pushback from the Northern Territory government in terms of either

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Speaker 4: Oh, Katie, we absolutely acknowledge the issues the community safety,

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Speaker 4: But Katie, we've increased the budget, we have increased the

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Speaker 1: In some cases you're not even getting to the point

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Speaker 4: So they're not able to get through. So Katie, that

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Speaker 4: We're not saying we won't do more into the future.

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Speaker 4: It's really important that people are able to get through

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Speaker 3: So those types of processes.

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Speaker 1: So is there going to be any budget announcements around

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, absolutely, there's more police that have recently graduated

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Speaker 3: But it's not just the dollars.

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Speaker 1: So on that note, a few weeks ago you'd told

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Speaker 3: So that is a focus.

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask you that question again, how those numbers

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Speaker 2: Are people coming back from leif certainly.

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Speaker 4: Our aim is to work with people to support them

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Speaker 4: on leave indefinitely. It's complex and it's not straightforward. Every

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Speaker 1: Is this part of the concern and reason behind losing

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Speaker 4: As I said, I can't comment on any of the

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Speaker 1: Okay, there was more crime on the weekend, the same

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Speaker 1: Now we know at least that a home was invaded

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Speaker 4: Just incident in Alla Springs and it is under investigation,

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Speaker 4: ruling things out. I am very much focused on these issues.

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Speaker 4: We've seen a change in the territory of change in

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Speaker 4: Australia and a change around the world post COVID. We're

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can blame COVID though on the

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Speaker 2: It's been on the cards for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Not blaming COVID, Katie, but what I'm saying is if

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Speaker 1: We're see so we're like that what we're seeing in

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Speaker 4: That is what evidence is showing us. But for me,

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Speaker 1: Going to be honest, I think that that's a really

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Speaker 2: Else around the world. That's not what I said, but

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Speaker 1: You're saying that you're saying across the world that there's

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Speaker 4: No, that's not what I said. What I said is

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Speaker 1: And so do you think what we're saying around the

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Speaker 2: So what are you doing to fix it?

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Speaker 4: So we're working incredibly hard giving police resources, Katie. We're

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Speaker 4: So Katie, we start to see some of the statistics change.

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Speaker 2: When's the community of.

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Speaker 4: And they've been cleaning rooms as people have been leaving.

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Speaker 3: They're being practical about it.

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Speaker 1: by the Lord Mayor of Darwin an application for the

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Speaker 1: Esplanade to be heritage listed.

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Speaker 2: Why is the government going down this path?

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Speaker 3: Don't worry. The Lord Mayor has been on the phone

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Speaker 3: to me, Katie.

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Speaker 4: A member of My understanding is a member of the

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Speaker 4: public has referred this application and so that is the process.

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Speaker 4: There's a provisional listing, but it will go to consultation.

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Speaker 4: I think the best way to preserve heritage is to

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Speaker 4: have activation.

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Speaker 3: You see around the world.

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Speaker 2: It's body hard.

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Speaker 1: To do though if it's heritage listed, so you cantie,

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Speaker 1: you're get to struggle to change a light bulb. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are really wondering why this has

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Speaker 1: gone forward.

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Speaker 4: So the process is there's a provisional listing and it

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Speaker 4: will go through the process and we that does go

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Speaker 4: open to community consultation. I've heard directly from the Lord

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Speaker 4: Mayor his thoughts around this. He's pretty weld and I

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Speaker 4: take on board the feedback that you said they're about

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Speaker 4: difficult to even change a light bulb. So I think

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Speaker 4: it's something you know, there is a process there. It's

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Speaker 4: the right thing to do to go through that process.

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Speaker 2: Hey, a very quick one.

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Speaker 1: This funding announcement for the shade structure in the city. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: not for the shade structure. It's the city greening. We're

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Speaker 1: not what are we doing with this three million dollars

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people are feeling luck, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're looking at the shade structure and seeing it as.

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Speaker 2: You know, something that.

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Speaker 4: To try and explain it to me, I see what

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Speaker 4: the general publics see about that shade structure. Yes, the

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Speaker 4: weeds in my yard have grown quicker this wet season.

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Speaker 4: The three million dollars is for upgrading infrastructure such as footpaths,

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Speaker 4: and it is about tree planting and making that CBD

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Speaker 4: greener and cooler. But I can absolutely assure you there's

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Speaker 4: not another shade structure going in place.

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Speaker 1: Well, and another announcement I understand is set to be

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Speaker 1: made is that there is going to be some money

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Speaker 1: invested into health, which I know that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people will be pleased to hear. What a significant amount

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Speaker 1: of money is my understanding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, your head out later today to Royal Daleen Hospital.

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Speaker 4: Really important health. Our frontline health workers and those that

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Speaker 4: work in our hospitals and our health system have done

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Speaker 4: an amazing job over the last three years, and we

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Speaker 4: are really focused around planning and delivering services for territories

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Speaker 4: into the future.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minison Natasha Files, we better leave it there. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Take care,