1 00:00:09,685 --> 00:00:12,485 Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. You can hear more Gold one I four 2 00:00:12,485 --> 00:00:15,965 Speaker 1: point three podcasts, playlist and listen live on the free 3 00:00:16,204 --> 00:00:21,925 Speaker 1: iHeart app Got anything good? Hey, this is the Christian 4 00:00:21,965 --> 00:00:29,045 Speaker 1: O'Connell show podcast. All right, So last writing on the 5 00:00:29,045 --> 00:00:31,165 Speaker 1: show was talking about these questions at my eighteen year 6 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:33,925 Speaker 1: old daughter. She came about her home from university and 7 00:00:33,965 --> 00:00:35,725 Speaker 1: she had these three questions from me, and we spent 8 00:00:35,765 --> 00:00:37,805 Speaker 1: about two hours going over them, and one of them 9 00:00:37,845 --> 00:00:39,845 Speaker 1: was a great one is this one? But we haven't 10 00:00:39,885 --> 00:00:45,405 Speaker 1: done yet. What's something that someone told you that change 11 00:00:45,565 --> 00:00:49,324 Speaker 1: the trajectory, good word that of your life. You know, 12 00:00:49,405 --> 00:00:52,525 Speaker 1: someone can say something. Sometimes it might even be not intentionally. 13 00:00:52,565 --> 00:00:55,125 Speaker 1: You might overhear something or see something on TV and 14 00:00:55,165 --> 00:00:57,485 Speaker 1: some might say something in an interview, or someone just 15 00:00:57,525 --> 00:01:00,245 Speaker 1: gives you some advice and actually does actually all to 16 00:01:00,365 --> 00:01:03,485 Speaker 1: the path of your life. For me, when I was eighteen, 17 00:01:03,525 --> 00:01:05,765 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with getting into radio and I'd done 18 00:01:05,805 --> 00:01:07,485 Speaker 1: a college radio show and I had what was called 19 00:01:07,485 --> 00:01:09,445 Speaker 1: what you had to Put Together and You're still doing 20 00:01:09,405 --> 00:01:12,405 Speaker 1: it called a demo tape. This actually was a cassette 21 00:01:12,445 --> 00:01:15,045 Speaker 1: and it was like two minutes of your best bits 22 00:01:15,485 --> 00:01:17,805 Speaker 1: and one of the greatest days of my life. I've 23 00:01:17,805 --> 00:01:19,325 Speaker 1: got a letter on down a post in my local 24 00:01:19,405 --> 00:01:23,765 Speaker 1: radio station. I loved Power FM, fifty thousand volts of 25 00:01:23,885 --> 00:01:27,765 Speaker 1: music power across the South Coast, and I was assessed 26 00:01:27,805 --> 00:01:29,645 Speaker 1: with this radio station. I was like, that's what, that's 27 00:01:29,685 --> 00:01:31,965 Speaker 1: my dream job. It's a weird DJ for Power FM. 28 00:01:32,685 --> 00:01:35,045 Speaker 1: The letter said I'd been selected to come in from 29 00:01:35,045 --> 00:01:38,765 Speaker 1: an interview by the program controllers eighteen years wow. And 30 00:01:38,845 --> 00:01:41,445 Speaker 1: I had to go to my landline, the house, call 31 00:01:41,765 --> 00:01:44,205 Speaker 1: the receptionist and book an interview in a week's time. 32 00:01:44,285 --> 00:01:46,525 Speaker 1: Could barely sleeve for a week's time. Anyway, I go 33 00:01:46,605 --> 00:01:49,645 Speaker 1: in there and this lovely guy, Chris Carnegie, the reason 34 00:01:49,645 --> 00:01:53,565 Speaker 1: why I can still remember his full name, Chris Carnegie Carnage, 35 00:01:54,765 --> 00:01:57,485 Speaker 1: gave me some great advice. He said, look, you're eighteen. 36 00:01:57,565 --> 00:02:00,205 Speaker 1: I could put you on air right now, but you'd 37 00:02:00,205 --> 00:02:02,885 Speaker 1: have no life experience to talk about that. We got 38 00:02:02,885 --> 00:02:05,805 Speaker 1: people like you at the weekend and they're good, but 39 00:02:05,845 --> 00:02:08,885 Speaker 1: they're so boring. You are a storyteller, and I told 40 00:02:08,885 --> 00:02:10,285 Speaker 1: the store at the end of the demo, he said, 41 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:12,445 Speaker 1: you need to go and live life to have the 42 00:02:12,525 --> 00:02:14,565 Speaker 1: stories and then come back in the radio. Don't get 43 00:02:14,565 --> 00:02:18,764 Speaker 1: into radio now will it will alter your how good 44 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:20,485 Speaker 1: you can be because you need to go and do 45 00:02:20,565 --> 00:02:22,565 Speaker 1: go and do some dead end jobs, to go to 46 00:02:22,565 --> 00:02:24,485 Speaker 1: college and get drunk and then figure it out and 47 00:02:24,485 --> 00:02:26,885 Speaker 1: then get back into it. So I was gutted. It 48 00:02:26,925 --> 00:02:29,605 Speaker 1: meant basically he was saying, get out my office's many 49 00:02:29,685 --> 00:02:35,365 Speaker 1: years later, go and sweep some roads or something. Don't 50 00:02:35,365 --> 00:02:38,325 Speaker 1: get on the radio. But anyway, Chris Carnegie literally did. 51 00:02:38,365 --> 00:02:40,925 Speaker 1: I did go and do that, and I was the 52 00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:43,525 Speaker 1: better for it. You know. I went to university and 53 00:02:43,605 --> 00:02:47,644 Speaker 1: then graduated with a huge debt and worked in tellysales 54 00:02:47,685 --> 00:02:49,525 Speaker 1: and lots of various jobs for years, and it was 55 00:02:49,565 --> 00:02:51,525 Speaker 1: so much better for me when I did manage to 56 00:02:51,525 --> 00:02:54,125 Speaker 1: get my way back into radio. So yeah, it literally 57 00:02:54,325 --> 00:02:56,885 Speaker 1: change everything for me. Inadvertently he wasn't giving me what 58 00:02:56,925 --> 00:02:59,045 Speaker 1: he wants at the time, but actually sometimes in life 59 00:02:59,325 --> 00:03:01,845 Speaker 1: you think you're ready, but you're not ready, and it 60 00:03:01,885 --> 00:03:04,045 Speaker 1: wasn't what I needed. What I needed to hear was 61 00:03:04,285 --> 00:03:06,605 Speaker 1: go away and live life and then come back to it. 62 00:03:06,645 --> 00:03:07,485 Speaker 1: You'll be better for it. 63 00:03:07,605 --> 00:03:09,845 Speaker 2: How many years was it between that and then seven? 64 00:03:10,205 --> 00:03:12,764 Speaker 1: Seven? Wow? Seven? And also during that seven years, it 65 00:03:12,885 --> 00:03:15,165 Speaker 1: just felt impossible like that was the closest I'll ever 66 00:03:15,205 --> 00:03:17,525 Speaker 1: get to working in the radio station. And I remember 67 00:03:17,565 --> 00:03:19,885 Speaker 1: meeting my now wife and I was like, you know, 68 00:03:19,925 --> 00:03:22,205 Speaker 1: I want to work in radio. You know I'm working 69 00:03:22,285 --> 00:03:24,245 Speaker 1: sounds so much. She goes, what are you doing about it? 70 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:27,685 Speaker 1: I went, She's no, one's going to knock on the 71 00:03:27,765 --> 00:03:29,685 Speaker 1: door the way you wait it is that they're going to 72 00:03:29,765 --> 00:03:32,525 Speaker 1: knock on the door begging you, begging your time, test 73 00:03:32,605 --> 00:03:34,005 Speaker 1: your time right out. She said, you've got to get 74 00:03:34,045 --> 00:03:36,125 Speaker 1: after it, and so she also altered the course of 75 00:03:36,125 --> 00:03:37,725 Speaker 1: it as well. Patsy, what's it for you? 76 00:03:38,125 --> 00:03:41,165 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. Mine's kind of similar in that what 77 00:03:41,765 --> 00:03:44,085 Speaker 3: sort of spurs you on can be what you really 78 00:03:44,165 --> 00:03:47,245 Speaker 3: don't want to hear. And mine throughout my life it's 79 00:03:47,245 --> 00:03:50,325 Speaker 3: happened probably four or five times, is when someone has 80 00:03:50,365 --> 00:03:53,965 Speaker 3: said to me you'll never do that, or you can't 81 00:03:54,005 --> 00:03:57,765 Speaker 3: do that, or girls don't do that. And that started 82 00:03:57,805 --> 00:04:00,685 Speaker 3: with my career's teacher at school who when I went 83 00:04:00,725 --> 00:04:03,005 Speaker 3: to him and said, I want to do this radio course. 84 00:04:03,405 --> 00:04:06,085 Speaker 3: I want to be a news reader, and they only 85 00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:10,125 Speaker 3: took like twelve across the country, right, and he's said, oh, yeah, no, 86 00:04:10,205 --> 00:04:12,245 Speaker 3: you're not going to get into that you know, you 87 00:04:12,285 --> 00:04:13,805 Speaker 3: need to do an arts degree. I said, I don't 88 00:04:13,805 --> 00:04:14,325 Speaker 3: want to do it. 89 00:04:14,485 --> 00:04:16,484 Speaker 1: You agree, So we said that because you're a girl. 90 00:04:16,605 --> 00:04:18,765 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, well you know girls, girls are on 91 00:04:19,005 --> 00:04:22,325 Speaker 3: the on the radio. And that just just lit a fire, 92 00:04:22,485 --> 00:04:24,205 Speaker 3: a massive inferno in my guts. 93 00:04:25,085 --> 00:04:26,765 Speaker 1: Thank god you took it that way though, and use 94 00:04:26,804 --> 00:04:28,484 Speaker 1: it as a fuel. Oh I had to. She could 95 00:04:28,484 --> 00:04:30,684 Speaker 1: have killed what would have been a great, great loss 96 00:04:30,685 --> 00:04:31,245 Speaker 1: to the industry. 97 00:04:31,284 --> 00:04:33,205 Speaker 3: No, I wasn't going to listen to that. And whenever 98 00:04:33,245 --> 00:04:36,205 Speaker 3: one said, anyone says to me, you're not going to 99 00:04:36,284 --> 00:04:39,525 Speaker 3: do that or you can't do that, I somehow have 100 00:04:39,645 --> 00:04:42,125 Speaker 3: to prove them wrong. So I'll make it my mission 101 00:04:42,804 --> 00:04:45,685 Speaker 3: to actually not only do it, but do it doubly 102 00:04:45,724 --> 00:04:49,005 Speaker 3: as good. So thank you to him, because yeah, he 103 00:04:49,085 --> 00:04:50,525 Speaker 3: spurred me on, and I thought, well, I'm going to 104 00:04:50,525 --> 00:04:53,245 Speaker 3: show you because I know I can do it, and 105 00:04:53,724 --> 00:04:56,564 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. So watch me do it. 106 00:04:56,044 --> 00:04:58,565 Speaker 1: And I did, and you're still doing it, and I'm 107 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:00,645 Speaker 1: still doing it. You hope to God that they're not 108 00:05:00,645 --> 00:05:02,645 Speaker 1: putting off women from entering radio now. 109 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:04,684 Speaker 3: Surely not in this state now. I mean that's a 110 00:05:04,724 --> 00:05:07,325 Speaker 3: long time ago. That was like nearly forty years ago. 111 00:05:07,404 --> 00:05:08,445 Speaker 3: I'd like to think it's different. 112 00:05:08,604 --> 00:05:11,604 Speaker 1: Now, what do you go all she's allowed to have wisdom, 113 00:05:13,085 --> 00:05:15,005 Speaker 1: you know, four years on now there's men just saying 114 00:05:15,005 --> 00:05:16,244 Speaker 1: that she nothing changes. 115 00:05:16,364 --> 00:05:18,284 Speaker 3: You will bow down, Yeah, you will. 116 00:05:18,325 --> 00:05:21,044 Speaker 1: Listen. She didn't mention that guy's name because he's dead. 117 00:05:21,604 --> 00:05:24,164 Speaker 1: He is actually no, no, she buried him. She buried 118 00:05:24,245 --> 00:05:26,284 Speaker 1: him and all those others that doubted her. Now we 119 00:05:26,325 --> 00:05:28,684 Speaker 1: ain't seen you Monday, mate. You've had a good couple 120 00:05:28,724 --> 00:05:29,044 Speaker 1: of weeks. 121 00:05:29,044 --> 00:05:31,205 Speaker 3: But it is over come to me in forty years 122 00:05:31,724 --> 00:05:32,404 Speaker 3: will I will? 123 00:05:32,525 --> 00:05:35,005 Speaker 1: Yeah, then she'll have a chat with you. All right, 124 00:05:35,044 --> 00:05:38,485 Speaker 1: we're find out from Rio's next what's the answer to you? Then? 125 00:05:38,525 --> 00:05:40,804 Speaker 1: Someone who said she gave you some advice that actually 126 00:05:40,885 --> 00:05:47,284 Speaker 1: changed the path of your life? A Christian O'Connell show podcast, Rio, 127 00:05:47,445 --> 00:05:49,125 Speaker 1: what's a piece of advice someone gave to you that 128 00:05:49,205 --> 00:05:50,245 Speaker 1: changed the path of your life. 129 00:05:50,364 --> 00:05:52,964 Speaker 2: I remember a very specific phase when I was probably 130 00:05:53,005 --> 00:05:55,444 Speaker 2: about fourteen or fifteen, And maybe this won't come as 131 00:05:55,484 --> 00:05:57,844 Speaker 2: a surprise to you, but it was a phase what 132 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:04,564 Speaker 2: I was becoming increasingly arrogant, obnoxious, rude. I remember picking. 133 00:06:04,245 --> 00:06:07,844 Speaker 1: Five, she can't imagine you like, thank you God. I 134 00:06:07,885 --> 00:06:09,564 Speaker 1: remember think It's a phase we all go through, though, 135 00:06:09,565 --> 00:06:10,325 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah. 136 00:06:10,525 --> 00:06:13,725 Speaker 2: I remember at the dinner table, like deliberately picking arguments 137 00:06:13,724 --> 00:06:16,044 Speaker 2: with mum just to sort of, I don't know, just 138 00:06:16,085 --> 00:06:17,844 Speaker 2: to get a rise out of her, and just to 139 00:06:17,844 --> 00:06:18,685 Speaker 2: sort of, I don't know. 140 00:06:19,205 --> 00:06:23,924 Speaker 1: My daughters are still in that phase eighteen and twenty. Yeah, yeah, constantly, 141 00:06:24,085 --> 00:06:26,644 Speaker 1: constantly just picking fights or trying to sort of gold 142 00:06:26,724 --> 00:06:28,045 Speaker 1: me into flipping out. 143 00:06:28,205 --> 00:06:31,725 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, just leading you into this beare baiting, yes, exactly. 144 00:06:32,005 --> 00:06:34,284 Speaker 1: Oh this is another thing men do. We're learning about 145 00:06:34,284 --> 00:06:37,724 Speaker 1: this university, paying for the university. 146 00:06:38,844 --> 00:06:41,724 Speaker 2: And I remember at one point Mum saying I don't 147 00:06:41,765 --> 00:06:43,804 Speaker 2: like I don't like the person you're becoming at the moment, 148 00:06:43,924 --> 00:06:46,844 Speaker 2: but it's from your mum, and you don't take it seriously. 149 00:06:47,284 --> 00:06:50,005 Speaker 2: I had this English teacher I really admired, mister Stockbridge, 150 00:06:50,005 --> 00:06:52,445 Speaker 2: who i'd had in year seven nine and then eleven, 151 00:06:53,005 --> 00:06:55,164 Speaker 2: and I remember after class he just pulled me aside 152 00:06:55,205 --> 00:06:57,964 Speaker 2: and in a very Australian way, he just goes, you're 153 00:06:57,964 --> 00:07:00,925 Speaker 2: a smart kid, you don't need to be a wanker. 154 00:07:01,685 --> 00:07:03,085 Speaker 1: Oh wow, And it. 155 00:07:03,205 --> 00:07:06,645 Speaker 2: Just coming from someone who you respect and isn't your parents. 156 00:07:06,685 --> 00:07:09,525 Speaker 1: I remember it, but what a care attitude readjustment because 157 00:07:09,565 --> 00:07:11,245 Speaker 1: you could have said nothing, but what a great thing 158 00:07:11,285 --> 00:07:13,364 Speaker 1: to just cut through the bus and go, don't go 159 00:07:13,445 --> 00:07:15,564 Speaker 1: down this path. You're better than that. Yeah, did you 160 00:07:15,605 --> 00:07:16,445 Speaker 1: take it at that point? 161 00:07:16,565 --> 00:07:19,965 Speaker 2: Yes, because it really sideswiped me and being from someone 162 00:07:20,205 --> 00:07:22,485 Speaker 2: that isn't your parents and someone you really you know, 163 00:07:22,565 --> 00:07:23,605 Speaker 2: out of that inner circle. 164 00:07:23,725 --> 00:07:26,725 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went, oh my am I? Am I a waker? 165 00:07:27,045 --> 00:07:29,725 Speaker 2: And then I remember thinking, yeah, I'm a bit of 166 00:07:29,765 --> 00:07:30,285 Speaker 2: a waker? 167 00:07:30,605 --> 00:07:32,565 Speaker 1: So did you change? Did you change? Then? Definitely? 168 00:07:32,645 --> 00:07:34,485 Speaker 2: And it still kind of hangs with me now sometimes 169 00:07:34,485 --> 00:07:37,285 Speaker 2: think am I being a but on a. 170 00:07:37,245 --> 00:07:39,725 Speaker 1: Post it note by your computer? Gentleman? Now that work? 171 00:07:40,045 --> 00:07:43,125 Speaker 1: That's a great one. I love the answer. The Christian 172 00:07:43,165 --> 00:07:44,885 Speaker 1: O'Connell Show podcast