WEBVTT - Anna McEvoy's 'Drawn Out' Wedding Content, The Instagram Handle Battle & Molly Mae Hits Out

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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<v Speaker 2>news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on today's show, a US influencer is accused of bullying

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<v Speaker 2>her namesake over her Instagram handle. Molly May addresses budget

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<v Speaker 2>airline controversy and Anna Macavoy's drawn out wedding content. But first,

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<v Speaker 2>A YouTuber has shared her unusual food quirk when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to eating burgers, or anything round for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty three year old Anastasia kings North, who's built her

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<v Speaker 2>career of eating fast food, has admitted she never finishes

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<v Speaker 2>the last piece of anything round.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how I do harm on out today? So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you know this about me either act today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very random, but I wouldn't really tell people. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just something I do. But when I have a burger

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<v Speaker 3>or I eat something round, I can't ever finish the

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<v Speaker 3>end of it, which makes no sense because it's round,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I get to the end of the burger,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to leave the little end rim.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't eat it. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been able to eat it, and a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of byrons noticed me do it before, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>why do you never finish the end? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't, Like there's something in me. I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't finish the end of the burger because it's round.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so weird. Yeah, because it's round. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>no Yeah, it's round.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, why can't I because I could have

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<v Speaker 3>started eating from that part, but that would probably be

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<v Speaker 3>my beige flag, Like when I'm eating something round, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to leave the little end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't leave this when I heard it. Her co

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<v Speaker 2>host Saffron Barker also seemed a little taken back and

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<v Speaker 2>confused by the whole thing. All I can think of

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<v Speaker 2>is that I can't believe I haven't noticed her doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I have watched this girl eat a lot of hamburgers,

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<v Speaker 2>because most of her content she's sitting in a McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>drives through and she films herself eating hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 1>How have we not picked up on this? I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved how.

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<v Speaker 2>She said it as if it was the most normal

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever, Like, oh, yeah, actually my bage flag is

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<v Speaker 2>that I do this. Yeah, it didn't really make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And it reminds me of one of those things that

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<v Speaker 2>you think of doing as a child, and it makes

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<v Speaker 2>complete sense to you, and it drags on for too long,

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<v Speaker 2>and someone doesn't tell you that's weird. That being said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have done this before. Okay, So when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Balley, if I hadn't been able to wash my hands,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was really worried about getting barley belly, I

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<v Speaker 2>if I was eating, say a hamburger, I wouldn't eat

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<v Speaker 2>the end of it which had touched my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe this is where this is coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought of it being a cleanliness thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was like one of those things that you

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<v Speaker 2>say to yourself or something bad will happen if I

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<v Speaker 2>do this or don't do this. Well, it seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>me as if she had an issue with round things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it came across as I was thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because yes, this girl does eat a lot of hamburgers,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are so many round food objects. So you've

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<v Speaker 2>got pancakes, or you've got round biscuits. Does she eat

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<v Speaker 2>the end of those things? Or is every round item

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<v Speaker 2>she does not eat the end of so many questions

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<v Speaker 2>left unanswered.

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>People not eating the crust off your toast or a

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<v Speaker 2>sandwich because they don't want to get curly hair. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if she thinks that something like that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen to her if she eats the last little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a round objects. Was there anything weird that you

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<v Speaker 2>do with your food that now you've retrospectively thought about?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I can think of.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, growing up, I used to like to eat

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ice, But apparently that's actually linked to

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<v Speaker 2>ironed efficiency, So it does make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Catherine as online is going to be this better

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<v Speaker 4>version of Catherine Driscoll, like could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>A US influencer has been accused of trying to bully

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<v Speaker 2>her namesake into handing over her Instagram handle. Catherine Assplund,

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<v Speaker 2>formerly known as Driscoll, recently married a billionaire here and

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make things Instagram official. However, there was one hitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone already had the coveted Instagram handle.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'd be fighting for this last name.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to google how to pronounce it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is ass Plund.

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<v Speaker 1>So the word ass that does make that last name.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you haven't heard of her, she is a

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle influencer who has over eighty eight thousand and followers

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok and fifteen thousand on Instagram. And on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes by the handle lost Etiquette while on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>she is Katherine drisk Now, the twenty seven year old

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<v Speaker 2>recently married Cabot Aarspland, who is the heir to the

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar aarsplund Tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Expert co Forge, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would put money on it that this family is pretending

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<v Speaker 2>their name isn't Asspland and pronounces it completely differently.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be like ash plums, like on keeping up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Appearances, well, on keeping up with appearances. Her last name

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<v Speaker 2>is bucket, but she says it's bouquet. You could be

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<v Speaker 2>onto something now. The company is listed as the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundredth and ninth largest private company in America with the

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<v Speaker 2>revenue of five billion dollars in twenty twenty three. Who

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<v Speaker 2>knew there was so much money in trimming Tree. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like that is wild now. The couple got married at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of April in Palm Beach in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine shared a lot of wedding content, including a video

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<v Speaker 2>of her dress that has a mast over eight point

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<v Speaker 2>five million views, so she is building quite career for

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<v Speaker 2>herself as a TikToker and as a lot of brides do.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine was keen to make her new name Instagram official,

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<v Speaker 2>but she quickly discovered that her desired Instagram handle of

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<v Speaker 2>Katherine aspland was already taken. So Katherine instantly messaged the

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<v Speaker 2>owner of the account and asked if she could buy

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<v Speaker 2>the handle from her. So she explained to the girl

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<v Speaker 2>that she'd just gotten married and this was now her

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<v Speaker 2>new name. Now Catherine's namesake, who goes by Kate, replied,

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<v Speaker 2>congratulating the newlywed, but she politely declined the offer, saying

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<v Speaker 2>that she thought it was against Instagram's terms and conditions

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<v Speaker 2>and she didn't want to get banned from the platform. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>why should she give up her Instagram handle just because

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<v Speaker 2>some TikToker who's now married a billionaire is requesting her

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<v Speaker 2>to do so out of pure spite. I'd probably be like, no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>not changing it. Well, if I'd seen that she'd married

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire, I might have been a bit interested to

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<v Speaker 2>know how much she was actually offering. Now, Catherine hit

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<v Speaker 2>back at Kate, saying it was untrue, and she had

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<v Speaker 2>previously purchased a username before so she wouldn't get banned.

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<v Speaker 2>She explained that that's how celebrities managed to get their

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<v Speaker 2>full names as their handles.

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<v Speaker 1>She also added, so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know there was another Asplun family out there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no Katherine Asplund in our family. I see that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not that active on here, but started Instagram in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, but changed your username three times. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>any way I can get you to change your username

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<v Speaker 2>one more time?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? That's very passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Kay went on to explain that she used the account

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<v Speaker 2>as a finster for private story. She said she was

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<v Speaker 2>sorry but couldn't agree as she didn't want to get bad.

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<v Speaker 2>God what what an fu though, Because she's obviously admitted

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<v Speaker 2>that this really isn't even her name, it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that much to have, and she could take up a

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<v Speaker 2>new finster. I think you're onto something, Amy, I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>she's clocked that she's a billionaire and is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>purposely make it difficult, so she offers her some money.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it more comes down to how Katherine Aspland

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<v Speaker 2>asked for the name. It was kind of very rude

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<v Speaker 2>and raceive, and I think this girl's gone, well, fuck you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not handing it over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It does become clear that Katherine isn't used to not

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<v Speaker 2>getting her way, because she did hit back, writing I

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't believe that your name is Katherine Aspland. Who

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<v Speaker 2>would make their finster their actual name? I reported you

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<v Speaker 2>to Instagram and they're actually able to tell me your

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<v Speaker 2>real name. I really hope I don't know you, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be really embarrassing for you. So is

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine assuming that this Kate has purposely secured the name

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<v Speaker 2>just to piss her off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think of the names of your finsters, you

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<v Speaker 2>pick out of the air the most bizarre name that

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<v Speaker 2>you can think of. Obviously, this is the name that

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<v Speaker 2>this girl has come up with, and unfortunately she shares

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<v Speaker 2>the same name as this now aiir s well. Catherine

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<v Speaker 2>did go on to say that her fiance had also

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<v Speaker 2>reported Kate's account, and she then accused Kate of pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to be someone she was not and demanded she proved

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<v Speaker 2>that Katherine Aspland was her actual name. Now. Kate responded, writing,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I have to send you any proof of

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<v Speaker 2>who I am. This is my account. I've had it

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty eighteen. I'm sorry we share the same name,

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<v Speaker 2>but just because you got married doesn't mean you can

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<v Speaker 2>have my username. If you were nice, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>considered giving it to you for free, but you weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>I reported you for asking me to sell my account

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<v Speaker 2>and another report for harassing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be friends with this girl with the filmster.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a legendary response that even how she said

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<v Speaker 2>I would have considered giving it to you for free,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes me think, yes, she is after money now.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then, the conversation has found its way on to

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<v Speaker 2>Reddit and has gone viral.

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<v Speaker 1>And the backlash was very swift, with Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>Labeled as a bully and entitled. It also prompted some

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<v Speaker 2>shit stirrs to go and create every possible variation of

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine's married and made a name to ensure she can't

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<v Speaker 2>use it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those good people are petty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did see that online, and some people are

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<v Speaker 2>putting in their buyer that they are entitled and selfish.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was considering changing my Instagram handle to my

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<v Speaker 2>new married name, I did go and have a look,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were quite a number of Sophie Hancocks and

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<v Speaker 2>I really was never actually going to Yeah, but yours

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<v Speaker 2>is confusing because your handle is Sophie Underscore Torba. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you click on it then it says in your

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<v Speaker 2>bio that your name is Sophie Hancock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, yeah, I just I thought if people

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<v Speaker 2>search for me, they can search Sophie Tawboro and or

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<v Speaker 2>come up. It's not that important. I'm definitely not going

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<v Speaker 2>to pay someone a large sum of money to get

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<v Speaker 2>a Sophie Handcock handle. It shows you how important she

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<v Speaker 2>thinks she is, even the fact that she referenced, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how celebrities get their own hand or hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on TikTok and Instagram. It's not like your j Lo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but she's also already has the Instagram handle

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok lost etiquette. Why doesn't she just stick to

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<v Speaker 2>that that wasn't her name anywhere? Well, probably because she's

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<v Speaker 2>an heiress now thinks that she's important. I do love

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<v Speaker 2>how the Internet always provides receipts. Following the scandal, super

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<v Speaker 2>Thluf dug up a now deleted TikTok of Catherine's where

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<v Speaker 2>she spoke about how sad she was about giving up

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<v Speaker 2>her last name. She even said she wanted to hold

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<v Speaker 2>a funeral for her maiden name, and the video was

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<v Speaker 2>quite difficult to watch to give you the vibe. At

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<v Speaker 2>one point, she said this about her maiden name.

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<v Speaker 4>I also feel blessed by the fact that I was

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<v Speaker 4>given an incredible last name, Driscoll. It's amazing. It's great,

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<v Speaker 4>like my whole life. People are like, wow, you have

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite last name. Ever, Well, what about now.

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<v Speaker 2>She also spoke in a derogatory way about those who

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<v Speaker 2>choose to hyphenate their last name, saying this.

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<v Speaker 4>Trust me, I would never be that bitch to hyphenate

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<v Speaker 4>my name. I kind of hate that shit. Like when

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<v Speaker 4>I see women with hyphen needed last names, it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like they're already divorced, and like they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I take offense to this with my husband's name

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<v Speaker 2>already being hyphenated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah now.

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<v Speaker 2>Ironically, Catherine then went on to mock women who were

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<v Speaker 2>quick to update them names on social media after they

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<v Speaker 2>got married.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what she said.

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<v Speaker 4>Something else that Loki bothers me is when girls get

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<v Speaker 4>married and it's not even like ten minutes after they're

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<v Speaker 4>like do their vowers, Like they're like, ooh, go on

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<v Speaker 4>my Instagram, let me change my last name Alreadie. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>probably gonna wait a couple of months. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it's like a little bit of light

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<v Speaker 4>when I see girls change it, like before I even

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<v Speaker 4>knew there if I got married, like chill.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So she's got an issue with people changing their

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<v Speaker 2>names immediately, but not people who hound others for the

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram Padel. Yeah, I mean she really wasn't very chill

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<v Speaker 2>about the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as if Catherine's.

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<v Speaker 2>New billionaire in laws didn't have enough secondhand embarrassment from

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<v Speaker 2>this scandal unfolding publicly, but they were also then dragged

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<v Speaker 2>into the drama. So thanks to all of the attention

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine created on the family, someone has dug up an

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<v Speaker 2>undocumented worker exploitation of lawsuit involving arspalund Tree experts. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just so happens that in twenty seventeen, Catherine's in

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<v Speaker 2>law's family business pled guilty to employing workers they knew

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<v Speaker 2>were using false identification papers. The family was fined ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars, the largest payment ever imposed in an

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<v Speaker 2>immigration case. Wow, so I'm assuming she probably wants to

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<v Speaker 2>steer clear of.

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<v Speaker 1>This last name now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't think that the Asplund family would be

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<v Speaker 2>that keen for her to be taking it on and

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<v Speaker 2>getting even more attention towards their business. Catherine did end

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<v Speaker 2>up deactivating her Instagram account because of the scandal, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is now back on the platform.

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<v Speaker 1>She is yet to post anything though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She has been posting tiktoks as normal though, and it

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<v Speaker 2>appears that her attempts to get that Assplund last name

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<v Speaker 2>have failed because she is still going by her maiden

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<v Speaker 2>name on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>When I saw people talking about how they thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was crazy how I booked my sister a Ryanair flight

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<v Speaker 5>to take her on her HANDU like, They're like, I

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<v Speaker 5>can't believe that booked a Ryan knaflight for all, like

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<v Speaker 5>for her sister's friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Molly may Haig has hit back at critics who slammed

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<v Speaker 2>her for booking a Ryan Air flight for her sister

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<v Speaker 2>Zoe's hen's weekend. The budget airline was in stark contrast

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<v Speaker 2>to the private jet she organized a month prior for

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<v Speaker 2>her friend's birthday in the snow now. So if Molly

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<v Speaker 2>addressed the controversy in her latest YouTube video, it is

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<v Speaker 2>clear that this controversy has affected Molly and she feels

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<v Speaker 2>compelled to share her side of the story. So she

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<v Speaker 2>started by addressing the private jet that she booked for

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<v Speaker 2>her friend Taylor's birthday, explaining the cost of the jet

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<v Speaker 2>was split between the group and wasn't just funded by

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<v Speaker 2>her now. Following that trip, Molly was slammed for flaunting

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<v Speaker 2>her wealth and accused of not caring about her carbon footprint.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly she thought, if I fly commercial for my sister's

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<v Speaker 2>Hen's weekend, people are going to get off my back.

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<v Speaker 2>But no.

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<v Speaker 1>Her flight with Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Air fueled even more criticism and hate. Molly said she

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<v Speaker 2>was made to feel like the worst sister and questioned

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<v Speaker 2>what transport the general public would like her to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Molly finished up by saying, you can never win it

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, and whatever she does, people will comment

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<v Speaker 2>on it. I liked that Molly came out and actually

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<v Speaker 2>addressed this drama going on, and she did it so

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<v Speaker 2>well because in her vlog she was saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>normally even respond to this stuff because there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>that gets written about her, but I think it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she took it more personally because it involved her sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of the criticism about this Hen's

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<v Speaker 2>party stems from people building a narrative that Molly's sister

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<v Speaker 2>Zoe is somehow living in her shadows and that Molly

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<v Speaker 2>must treat her badly because she's not as wealthy and.

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<v Speaker 1>Famous as her.

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<v Speaker 2>So last year, Zoe left her job in the Army

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<v Speaker 2>to follow in Molly's footsteps and become an influencer, and

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<v Speaker 2>she has earned herself a name as being the everyday

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<v Speaker 2>Molly May, so she's more relatable financially and also with

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<v Speaker 2>day to day things. I actually don't think that Zoe

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<v Speaker 2>is living in Molly's shadows at all. If anything, her

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel and following is gaining huge momentum that she

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<v Speaker 2>is nipping on Molly's toes. Well, you're right, because even

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<v Speaker 2>after her Hen's weekend, I noticed her Instagram followers shot up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's really got close to four hundred thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's kind of like the Kudashian situation, isn't it,

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<v Speaker 2>where Kim claims that she's the one who's given her

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<v Speaker 2>sisters the careers. Obviously, people became interested in Zoe because

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<v Speaker 2>of the connection to Molly, but she, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>she is relatable. She does share very different content. She's

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<v Speaker 2>more of a fitness influencer than i'd say a lifestyle influence.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that Molly is also so happy for her.

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<v Speaker 2>The two bounce off each other. I don't like how

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<v Speaker 2>they're having to create this competition between the two sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's quite interesting to analyze.

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<v Speaker 2>The behavior of Zoe's followers because they seem very protective

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<v Speaker 2>over Zoe and they think that Molly is not only

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<v Speaker 2>stooging her on flights, but they also think that she

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<v Speaker 2>purposely excluded Zoe from the Hen's blog that Molly created.

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<v Speaker 2>So Zoe was only in a few scenes of the

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube video, and most of it was made up of

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<v Speaker 2>Molly talking back in her room with her friend. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what Zoe said about those accusations.

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<v Speaker 6>So many questions about Ryan Flight. What's your opinion on

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<v Speaker 6>the hate that Molly got over the Ryan Earthlight. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't say anything. I just I'm sure you guys know

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<v Speaker 6>me well enough now to know what I think about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Poor girl can't do right if I'm wrong. She really can't,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it's quite sad. I just had to

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<v Speaker 6>turn the comments off on that video as well for

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<v Speaker 6>other reasons, which is again just absolutely ridiculous, because I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't in the video enough. I was in the video enough,

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<v Speaker 6>and be honest, I'm really glad I wasn't in it

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<v Speaker 6>more because anything she showed me anyway of me in it,

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<v Speaker 6>I was tipsy and it was making me cringe. I

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<v Speaker 6>never asked for it to be like a keepsake video.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just fun to look back on and I

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<v Speaker 6>love watching that video. I'll stop there now. Yeah, peace

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<v Speaker 6>in love over here, peace and love only no hate.

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<v Speaker 6>I love my sister, she loves me.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched this blog and I did notice that Zoe

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in it as much as I thought she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. But that's because Molly had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other things going on. She is the maid of honor,

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<v Speaker 2>she's organizing everything for the Hen's party. Also, who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be captured on their drunk off their face And

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<v Speaker 2>with most vloggers, they don't actually capture the activities that

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<v Speaker 2>go on because they don't want to take their camera out.

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<v Speaker 2>They mainly film what has gone down back in the

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<v Speaker 2>room or explain what's happened. Yeah, and she wasn't sharing

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<v Speaker 2>a room with Zoe either, so that meant obviously there

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be content that Molly filmed in her

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<v Speaker 2>room with her friend because she's been slammed for featuring

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<v Speaker 2>too much of her friend and not enough of Zoe.

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<v Speaker 2>But also Zoe made the decision that she didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to vlog the trip because she wanted to just enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't really want to be working.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, as she said, Molly wasn't capturing a

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<v Speaker 2>keepsake video. It was just something fun to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look back on now. In a Q and A about

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<v Speaker 2>her hands, Zoe addressed who paid for what, explaining that

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<v Speaker 2>Molly was incredibly generous and covered all of the costs

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<v Speaker 2>except for those Ryan airflights. So Molly paid for the

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive accommodation, the activities, food, and everyone's drinks, and

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 2>they went out to some pretty expensive dinners, so this

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<v Speaker 2>bill would have been really high. I do love that

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<v Speaker 2>Molly has copped so much crap about the Ryan Air flights,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the only thing that she actually didn't contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to other than her own flight.

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<v Speaker 1>So no one. They went Ryanair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though was a budget airline, the flights were

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive. So it was about seven hundred pounds return

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<v Speaker 2>each person. Do you think that's a lot to expect

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<v Speaker 2>people to pay. I don't think it's that much, considering

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<v Speaker 2>they then had all of their accommodation, their drinks, and

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<v Speaker 2>all their food paid for. I'd be willing to pay

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred pounds to go on that hen's weekend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well Zoe felt the same way. This is what she

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<v Speaker 2>said about it.

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<v Speaker 6>All in all, I think it cost about seven hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 6>which for some people, for a hand do might be

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<v Speaker 6>quite It's quite a lot. I know it is quite

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<v Speaker 6>a lot. But they were all saying what my friends

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<v Speaker 6>were saying, like for the experience of going to gat

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, for the villa that was staying in,

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<v Speaker 6>the food that we're getting, the drinks that were getting.

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<v Speaker 6>Bearing in mind this obviously was including food, drinks, flights,

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<v Speaker 6>like everything. They were really more than happy to spend

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<v Speaker 6>that amount of money. And I did check with everyone

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<v Speaker 6>before we booked anything, before we booked everything, that this

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<v Speaker 6>was going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone, and it was, Yeah, they're really paying for

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<v Speaker 2>the experience, and some of Zoe's friends actually gave Zoe

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<v Speaker 2>money to hand on to Molly because I think they

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<v Speaker 2>felt a bit guilty at how expensive everything was. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think we're going to see a sponsorship deal with

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<v Speaker 2>Zoe and Ryanair pop up, because in this Q and A,

0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Zoe was very complimentary of the airline and she said

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<v Speaker 2>it was actually a highlight of her trip flying Ryanair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She said that they were popping mini bottles of prosecco

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<v Speaker 2>on the flight and it was the first place that

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<v Speaker 2>her and her friend started mingling and all getting to

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<v Speaker 2>know each other. I think that Zoe would be the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect brand ambassador for Ryanair because, as we said, she

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.479
<v Speaker 2>is the everyday Molly May. They could get a huge,

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<v Speaker 2>like a really fun campaign. It I just don't understand

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the people that follow Zoe though, in terms of their

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 2>mindset to then hate on her sister. Yeah, it's very

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 2>unusual because I like following both of them because I

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 2>found Zoe through Molly, who I really enjoy watching.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting married tomorrow and I'm here in my room

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<v Speaker 4>doing my self care.

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Anna McAvoy's social media strategy is under the spotlight with

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 2>fans complaining she's drawn out her wedding content. The former

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Love Island contestant got married to her new husband, Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Staples in core few last week, but it took five

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<v Speaker 2>days until we got a glimpse of her first dress.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a very hot topic in our Facebook community,

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<v Speaker 2>with one listener saying, I really like her, but this

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<v Speaker 2>has annoyed me so much build up, but it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>been anticlimactic now. This is because, as you touched on, Amy,

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<v Speaker 2>Anna did five wedding related posts before we even got

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<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of the dress.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were the other posts?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's clear that she had some sort of sponsorship

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>agreement going on with a wedding row brand called Homebody,

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<v Speaker 2>because there were three reels of her in the robes,

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<v Speaker 2>either getting ready with her friends or sitting there enjoying

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>her wedding breakfast. There was also a flat lay photo

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<v Speaker 2>of her shoes and accessories and some of the small

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 2>reception details. And I just want to be clear, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the photo that no one gives a fuck about. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when you're sharing your flat lay of

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<v Speaker 2>your flowers in the morning or your shoes, that is

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.879
<v Speaker 2>the post that usually bombs. But I'm guessing maybe her

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>shoes were sponsored and there were a few things going

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<v Speaker 2>on that she was trying to create generate some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of excitement ahead of the main post.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah, Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>last video seemed to be the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Straw for people because it was a video of Anna

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael dancing around in casual clothes with the caption

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<v Speaker 2>the next post you see will be our wedding pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I was hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>To see these photos, but I was getting slightly irritated

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt like saying, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a royal wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Please stop gatekeeping your wedding photos from us, because we're interested.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm probably not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>In a week because all people want to see is

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<v Speaker 2>the dress.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as soon as we see the dress, our

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<v Speaker 1>attention levels bombed. We don't care anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see one more wedding photo after that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding photos looked amazing, like they both looked incredible

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<v Speaker 2>in the pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know what you mean. There can be the.

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<v Speaker 2>Point where it gets there's too much waiting that's gone on,

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<v Speaker 2>like your interest levels do drop. Yeah, well, it took

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<v Speaker 2>five days for her to release the first photo, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very stunning photo of her and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>kissing as their bridal party threw rose petals over them.

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And Anna wore a custom made gown by a Melbourne

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<v Speaker 2>designer and.

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<v Speaker 1>It had a square neck and a huge skirt.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked very PRINCESSI she had her hair back, and

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<v Speaker 2>she looked very elegant and gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you say, Amy, because it had been so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hyped, I was a little bit disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? She has shared seven other wedding photos since, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of them was hinting that she was going to

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<v Speaker 2>reveal her second wedding dress, which turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lace number from the same designer. It was absolutely gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael was also in a different colored suit, which

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<v Speaker 2>seemed even more over the top this wedding.

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It was very extra.

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 2>This wedding must have cost them a fortune. I know

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>there were a number of sponsored elements, but not only

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>did they have this extravagant wedding in Greece, but they

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>also had a friend moon. They're now going on a

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>huge honeymoon. How would you feel as a guest, because

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<v Speaker 2>Anna made it quite clear that she didn't want any

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<v Speaker 2>of her guests to share photos of her in a

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 2>dress before she had the chance to, or any photos

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that revealed any of the wedding reception details or the ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be a little bit frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand that I wouldn't want someone sharing a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of me before I was able to share the

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>professional photographs as well. And I even think I get

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<v Speaker 2>funny about people sharing fours of themselves at the wedding too,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes it can give away a little detail, like

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<v Speaker 2>what color the flowers were. When it's in this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of case where it's someone who's high profile, Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was someone like Tammy Hembro and she started sharing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of videos and stuff, I could understand maybe

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>there'd be a bit of annoyance there because she's got

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<v Speaker 2>such a big platform.

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<v Speaker 1>But I put it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually also didn't say that Tammy Hembro overshadowed Anna

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<v Speaker 2>Macavoy's wedding, because I've seen all these articles in the

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Mail coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like O'tspoken podcast said this, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, we were bringing up that some people had

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<v Speaker 2>said that, yeah, and personally.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just discussing that it was a bit unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>To share a group photo where there's two couples kissing,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were teetering on the edge whether she was

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<v Speaker 2>overshadowing or not. Just can't put that out, I mean,

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And even since that discussion, I think Tammy has gone

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<v Speaker 2>out of her way to allow Anna to have that

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>spotlight on her. No, I think her etiquette since then

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>has been very good. I think where some frustration is

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>coming at the moment is because there has been such

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<v Speaker 2>an oversaturation of wedding content where it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit overkill.

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<v Speaker 2>But if anything, I almost feel bad for Anna because

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<v Speaker 2>I recently got my wedding photos back, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>them all in little folders. I literally put so many

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>photos over Facebook because I know that on Facebook it's dead.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>No one really cares, there's no rules on there's no rules,

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 2>no one cares. But now on Instagram, I've got like,

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to share something of my reception, and then

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to share something of my ceremony, but I

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 2>get that no one else gives a fuck, but I

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of just want it there for my own personal

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>thing as a memory. So apologies if anyone follows me

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 2>and is sick of seeing it.

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the reality.

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 2>You've hit the nail on the head that after the event,

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 2>no one really cares anymore.

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants to know what's next, What are you doing next?

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everyone's kind of seen the main photos and

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 2>the reality is that nobody actually cares as much about

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>your wedding as you do or.

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Did, and they all start looking the same. Like to you,

0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh wow.

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.719
<v Speaker 2>This is different, this is different lighting is it? But

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to everyone else like same white dress, boring, don't want

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>to say anymore. Well, Anna's strategy seems to have worked

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>because in the last thirty days she has gained over

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>two thousand, five hundred followers.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I wonder also how many she's gained on TikTok, because

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of her content isn't working as

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<v Speaker 2>well on Instagram.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's very much for a wedtalk crowd.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, before I got married, I was constantly on

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 2>wed talk trying to find ideas, and it is a

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 2>really great way that you can grow your own following.

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<v Speaker 7>I go on television, Yeah, on television. Yeah, ahways that

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 7>I've been rather good at that. See Lester Darling Darling

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<v Speaker 7>all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, piece of cakes. Yeah, television.

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<v Speaker 7>Huh Hello, I'm Patsystone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into our highs and lows of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do want to touch on the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Kate isn't here. Don't worry anyone. She hasn't gone into

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>labor or anything, but she is almost thirty seven weeks pregnant,

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>so we thought that she needed to have a little.

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Bit of a rest.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>She did actually contribute to the notes. I can hear

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>her yelling that she some of these were her toe.

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, she's been working her guts out and she's

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven weeks pregnant, and she just recently had one

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of her latest scans and he said, look, you need

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to relax.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you need to remember that you're pregnant.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe people send Kate some well wishes because yeah,

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>she's trying to chill out at home, but she's been

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a workaholic.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Now getting into my.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 2>High of the week, it has to be the approaching

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>birth of our nephew. And I have been blown away

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>by some of the clothes that Target and.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Big w have the baby clothes. They are so cute,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>so affordable. They've got like your.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Favorite characters on there, like Spot or poo Bear or

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Peter Rabbit, like the cutest stuff. It's made me very

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>excited and it's made it feel a whole lot more real.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>My low of the week, though, is also related to

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>my new nephew who's coming in a few weeks, and

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 2>it is that I had to have the hooping cough

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>vaccine done and I also stupidly got my flu vaccine

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>done at the same time, and I was completely wiped

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>out for thirty six hours.

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get out of bed.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I was exhausted, I was shivering, I felt like I

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>was going to faint and vomit.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, it's worth it to protect in society.

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Don't let that stop anyone from getting either of those

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>back things important to get. Maybe just don't get them

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 2>in the same day, because I mean, I didn't have

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>as such adverse effects. But Dale also got it, Brandon's

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 2>got his recently, and you do get very tired from having.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Both of them.

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>But it's so worthwhile, so important to get, but yes,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>avoid getting it on the same day. So my high

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>of the week has been getting my new skincare from

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Trinny London. So I've been wanting to try out Trinny

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Woodle's skincare products for a while. Now I've on week one,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>loving it so far. I have to keep everyone updated.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So far, so good. Well, the best thing about her

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>products is that on the back she outlines how often

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you should you be using them, And that's an issue

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that I've had with other products before, is that when

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>there's active ingredients, you have to be so careful and targeted.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>As to when you use them.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>So hers will outline use this once a day or

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>use this once a week. Yeah, because it's really clear

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and the packaging is so nice. Like when I opened it,

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>it's so sad. I was like, this is really sad

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that I'm so excited, but I got her. Is like

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>this cleanser that came in a yellow bottle and it's

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>so cool because you then only buy sort of the

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>recharge bottles, yeah, the inserts, so it's cheaper when you

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>next time I buy one of the bottles.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Well. Also better for the environment too.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>My low is that I'm really disappointed in myself because

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been meaning to find some songs for my wedding videographer.

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>So he contacted me this week saying, your wedding video

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>is going to be done in the next week or two,

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>but can you please send.

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Through some music that you like.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's because I am a fellow videographer.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>He's realized I probably a bit of a control freak.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>But it is so hard to actually pick music. Like

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I find it hard enough to pick music for clients stuff,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>but when it's something as important as your wedding video,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>there's this extra level of stress. Well it's especially hard

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>because it has to be royalty free music, so it's

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>not like you can say, oh, this is my favorite song,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>let's chuck that over the top of it. Well, I'm

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>currently looking for seven different songs.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I like seven. How long is this video going for? Well,

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't just use one song you have, like, you know,

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the atmospheric music, you have others, you know, the pump

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>up song.

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 2>I think he should just pick them, send them to you,

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and you give the ticke of approval.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I actually do like that he's asked me.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>But I'm a little bit disappointed now after our discussion

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on Anna, because I've realized that probably no one's going

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>to care. Look, it's only you and the family that care.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I reckon we'll do a screening night though, yeah, hoping

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>we get the videos. Well, I think that's all we've

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<v Speaker 2>got time for. Thank you for listening to another episode

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<v Speaker 2>Torba, so Sophie Underscore Torba and Kate is at Kate

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<v Speaker 2>Torba spelt t a e u b e er. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this just a cheeky thing because we've got our handles,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have to pay for them like this billionaire woman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully there's not really another Amy Torber out there.

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<v Speaker 1>There is another Sophie Tourba though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a very famous Swiss artist. Apparently my name

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>does feature on some Swiss money. That's a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a fun fact now this episode was recorded on the

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<v Speaker 2>traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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<v Speaker 1>We pay respect to elders past and present.