Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
Speaker 2: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and coming up
Speaker 2: on today's show, a US influencer is accused of bullying
Speaker 2: her namesake over her Instagram handle. Molly May addresses budget
Speaker 2: airline controversy and Anna Macavoy's drawn out wedding content. But first,
Speaker 2: A YouTuber has shared her unusual food quirk when it
Speaker 2: comes to eating burgers, or anything round for that matter.
Speaker 2: Twenty three year old Anastasia kings North, who's built her
Speaker 2: career of eating fast food, has admitted she never finishes
Speaker 2: the last piece of anything round.
Speaker 1: Here's what she said.
Speaker 3: Okay, how I do harm on out today? So I
Speaker 3: don't know if you know this about me either act today.
Speaker 3: It's very random, but I wouldn't really tell people. It's
Speaker 3: just something I do. But when I have a burger
Speaker 3: or I eat something round, I can't ever finish the
Speaker 3: end of it, which makes no sense because it's round,
Speaker 3: Like if I get to the end of the burger,
Speaker 3: I have to leave the little end rim.
Speaker 1: I can't eat it. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I've never been able to eat it, and a couple
Speaker 3: of byrons noticed me do it before, and he's like,
Speaker 3: why do you never finish the end? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I just can't, Like there's something in me. I just
Speaker 3: can't finish the end of the burger because it's round.
Speaker 1: That is so weird. Yeah, because it's round. That makes
Speaker 1: no Yeah, it's round.
Speaker 3: So it's like, why can't I because I could have
Speaker 3: started eating from that part, but that would probably be
Speaker 3: my beige flag, Like when I'm eating something round, I
Speaker 3: have to leave the little end of it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't leave this when I heard it. Her co
Speaker 2: host Saffron Barker also seemed a little taken back and
Speaker 2: confused by the whole thing. All I can think of
Speaker 2: is that I can't believe I haven't noticed her doing this,
Speaker 2: because I have watched this girl eat a lot of hamburgers,
Speaker 2: because most of her content she's sitting in a McDonald's
Speaker 2: drives through and she films herself eating hamburgers.
Speaker 1: How have we not picked up on this? I just
Speaker 1: loved how.
Speaker 2: She said it as if it was the most normal
Speaker 2: thing ever, Like, oh, yeah, actually my bage flag is
Speaker 2: that I do this. Yeah, it didn't really make any sense.
Speaker 2: And it reminds me of one of those things that
Speaker 2: you think of doing as a child, and it makes
Speaker 2: complete sense to you, and it drags on for too long,
Speaker 2: and someone doesn't tell you that's weird. That being said,
Speaker 2: I have done this before. Okay, So when I was
Speaker 2: in Balley, if I hadn't been able to wash my hands,
Speaker 2: and I was really worried about getting barley belly, I
Speaker 2: if I was eating, say a hamburger, I wouldn't eat
Speaker 2: the end of it which had touched my hand.
Speaker 1: So maybe this is where this is coming from.
Speaker 2: I never thought of it being a cleanliness thing. I
Speaker 2: thought it was like one of those things that you
Speaker 2: say to yourself or something bad will happen if I
Speaker 2: do this or don't do this. Well, it seemed to
Speaker 2: me as if she had an issue with round things.
Speaker 2: That's what it came across as I was thinking about it,
Speaker 2: because yes, this girl does eat a lot of hamburgers,
Speaker 2: but there are so many round food objects. So you've
Speaker 2: got pancakes, or you've got round biscuits. Does she eat
Speaker 2: the end of those things? Or is every round item
Speaker 2: she does not eat the end of so many questions
Speaker 2: left unanswered.
Speaker 1: I have heard of.
Speaker 2: People not eating the crust off your toast or a
Speaker 2: sandwich because they don't want to get curly hair. I
Speaker 2: wonder if she thinks that something like that's going to
Speaker 2: happen to her if she eats the last little bit
Speaker 2: of a round objects. Was there anything weird that you
Speaker 2: do with your food that now you've retrospectively thought about?
Speaker 1: Not that I can think of.
Speaker 2: I know, growing up, I used to like to eat
Speaker 2: a lot of ice, But apparently that's actually linked to
Speaker 2: ironed efficiency, So it does make sense.
Speaker 4: Maybe Catherine as online is going to be this better
Speaker 4: version of Catherine Driscoll, like could happen.
Speaker 2: A US influencer has been accused of trying to bully
Speaker 2: her namesake into handing over her Instagram handle. Catherine Assplund,
Speaker 2: formerly known as Driscoll, recently married a billionaire here and
Speaker 2: wanted to make things Instagram official. However, there was one hitch.
Speaker 2: Someone already had the coveted Instagram handle.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd be fighting for this last name.
Speaker 2: We had to google how to pronounce it, and it
Speaker 2: is ass Plund.
Speaker 1: So the word ass that does make that last name.
Speaker 2: Now, if you haven't heard of her, she is a
Speaker 2: lifestyle influencer who has over eighty eight thousand and followers
Speaker 2: on TikTok and fifteen thousand on Instagram. And on TikTok,
Speaker 2: she goes by the handle lost Etiquette while on Instagram
Speaker 2: she is Katherine drisk Now, the twenty seven year old
Speaker 2: recently married Cabot Aarspland, who is the heir to the
Speaker 2: billion dollar aarsplund Tree.
Speaker 1: Expert co Forge, I.
Speaker 2: Would put money on it that this family is pretending
Speaker 2: their name isn't Asspland and pronounces it completely differently.
Speaker 1: It'll be like ash plums, like on keeping up with.
Speaker 2: Appearances, well, on keeping up with appearances. Her last name
Speaker 2: is bucket, but she says it's bouquet. You could be
Speaker 2: onto something now. The company is listed as the one
Speaker 2: hundredth and ninth largest private company in America with the
Speaker 2: revenue of five billion dollars in twenty twenty three. Who
Speaker 2: knew there was so much money in trimming Tree. It's
Speaker 2: like that is wild now. The couple got married at
Speaker 2: the end of April in Palm Beach in Florida, and
Speaker 2: Catherine shared a lot of wedding content, including a video
Speaker 2: of her dress that has a mast over eight point
Speaker 2: five million views, so she is building quite career for
Speaker 2: herself as a TikToker and as a lot of brides do.
Speaker 2: Catherine was keen to make her new name Instagram official,
Speaker 2: but she quickly discovered that her desired Instagram handle of
Speaker 2: Katherine aspland was already taken. So Katherine instantly messaged the
Speaker 2: owner of the account and asked if she could buy
Speaker 2: the handle from her. So she explained to the girl
Speaker 2: that she'd just gotten married and this was now her
Speaker 2: new name. Now Catherine's namesake, who goes by Kate, replied,
Speaker 2: congratulating the newlywed, but she politely declined the offer, saying
Speaker 2: that she thought it was against Instagram's terms and conditions
Speaker 2: and she didn't want to get banned from the platform. Also,
Speaker 2: why should she give up her Instagram handle just because
Speaker 2: some TikToker who's now married a billionaire is requesting her
Speaker 2: to do so out of pure spite. I'd probably be like, no, sorry,
Speaker 2: not changing it. Well, if I'd seen that she'd married
Speaker 2: a billionaire, I might have been a bit interested to
Speaker 2: know how much she was actually offering. Now, Catherine hit
Speaker 2: back at Kate, saying it was untrue, and she had
Speaker 2: previously purchased a username before so she wouldn't get banned.
Speaker 2: She explained that that's how celebrities managed to get their
Speaker 2: full names as their handles.
Speaker 1: She also added, so weird.
Speaker 2: I didn't know there was another Asplun family out there.
Speaker 2: There's no Katherine Asplund in our family. I see that
Speaker 2: you're not that active on here, but started Instagram in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, but changed your username three times. Is there
Speaker 2: any way I can get you to change your username
Speaker 2: one more time?
Speaker 1: Wow? That's very passive aggressive.
Speaker 2: Kay went on to explain that she used the account
Speaker 2: as a finster for private story. She said she was
Speaker 2: sorry but couldn't agree as she didn't want to get bad.
Speaker 2: God what what an fu though, Because she's obviously admitted
Speaker 2: that this really isn't even her name, it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that much to have, and she could take up a
Speaker 2: new finster. I think you're onto something, Amy, I reckon
Speaker 2: she's clocked that she's a billionaire and is trying to
Speaker 2: purposely make it difficult, so she offers her some money.
Speaker 2: I think it more comes down to how Katherine Aspland
Speaker 2: asked for the name. It was kind of very rude
Speaker 2: and raceive, and I think this girl's gone, well, fuck you,
Speaker 2: I'm not handing it over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It does become clear that Katherine isn't used to not
Speaker 2: getting her way, because she did hit back, writing I
Speaker 2: actually don't believe that your name is Katherine Aspland. Who
Speaker 2: would make their finster their actual name? I reported you
Speaker 2: to Instagram and they're actually able to tell me your
Speaker 2: real name. I really hope I don't know you, because
Speaker 2: that's going to be really embarrassing for you. So is
Speaker 2: Catherine assuming that this Kate has purposely secured the name
Speaker 2: just to piss her off.
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: If you think of the names of your finsters, you
Speaker 2: pick out of the air the most bizarre name that
Speaker 2: you can think of. Obviously, this is the name that
Speaker 2: this girl has come up with, and unfortunately she shares
Speaker 2: the same name as this now aiir s well. Catherine
Speaker 2: did go on to say that her fiance had also
Speaker 2: reported Kate's account, and she then accused Kate of pretending
Speaker 2: to be someone she was not and demanded she proved
Speaker 2: that Katherine Aspland was her actual name. Now. Kate responded, writing,
Speaker 2: why do I have to send you any proof of
Speaker 2: who I am. This is my account. I've had it
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen. I'm sorry we share the same name,
Speaker 2: but just because you got married doesn't mean you can
Speaker 2: have my username. If you were nice, I would have
Speaker 2: considered giving it to you for free, but you weren't.
Speaker 2: I reported you for asking me to sell my account
Speaker 2: and another report for harassing me.
Speaker 1: Have a good day.
Speaker 2: I want to be friends with this girl with the filmster.
Speaker 2: That is a legendary response that even how she said
Speaker 2: I would have considered giving it to you for free,
Speaker 2: that makes me think, yes, she is after money now.
Speaker 2: Since then, the conversation has found its way on to
Speaker 2: Reddit and has gone viral.
Speaker 1: And the backlash was very swift, with Catherine.
Speaker 2: Labeled as a bully and entitled. It also prompted some
Speaker 2: shit stirrs to go and create every possible variation of
Speaker 2: Catherine's married and made a name to ensure she can't
Speaker 2: use it.
Speaker 1: Of those good people are petty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see that online, and some people are
Speaker 2: putting in their buyer that they are entitled and selfish.
Speaker 2: When I was considering changing my Instagram handle to my
Speaker 2: new married name, I did go and have a look,
Speaker 2: and they were quite a number of Sophie Hancocks and
Speaker 2: I really was never actually going to Yeah, but yours
Speaker 2: is confusing because your handle is Sophie Underscore Torba. But
Speaker 2: when you click on it then it says in your
Speaker 2: bio that your name is Sophie Hancock.
Speaker 1: It's quite confusing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, I just I thought if people
Speaker 2: search for me, they can search Sophie Tawboro and or
Speaker 2: come up. It's not that important. I'm definitely not going
Speaker 2: to pay someone a large sum of money to get
Speaker 2: a Sophie Handcock handle. It shows you how important she
Speaker 2: thinks she is, even the fact that she referenced, oh,
Speaker 2: this is how celebrities get their own hand or hunt.
Speaker 2: You're on TikTok and Instagram. It's not like your j Lo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, but she's also already has the Instagram handle
Speaker 2: on TikTok lost etiquette. Why doesn't she just stick to
Speaker 2: that that wasn't her name anywhere? Well, probably because she's
Speaker 2: an heiress now thinks that she's important. I do love
Speaker 2: how the Internet always provides receipts. Following the scandal, super
Speaker 2: Thluf dug up a now deleted TikTok of Catherine's where
Speaker 2: she spoke about how sad she was about giving up
Speaker 2: her last name. She even said she wanted to hold
Speaker 2: a funeral for her maiden name, and the video was
Speaker 2: quite difficult to watch to give you the vibe. At
Speaker 2: one point, she said this about her maiden name.
Speaker 4: I also feel blessed by the fact that I was
Speaker 4: given an incredible last name, Driscoll. It's amazing. It's great,
Speaker 4: like my whole life. People are like, wow, you have
Speaker 4: my favorite last name. Ever, Well, what about now.
Speaker 2: She also spoke in a derogatory way about those who
Speaker 2: choose to hyphenate their last name, saying this.
Speaker 4: Trust me, I would never be that bitch to hyphenate
Speaker 4: my name. I kind of hate that shit. Like when
Speaker 4: I see women with hyphen needed last names, it looks
Speaker 4: like they're already divorced, and like they're not.
Speaker 2: Oh, I take offense to this with my husband's name
Speaker 2: already being hyphenated.
Speaker 1: Yeah now.
Speaker 2: Ironically, Catherine then went on to mock women who were
Speaker 2: quick to update them names on social media after they
Speaker 2: got married.
Speaker 1: This is what she said.
Speaker 4: Something else that Loki bothers me is when girls get
Speaker 4: married and it's not even like ten minutes after they're
Speaker 4: like do their vowers, Like they're like, ooh, go on
Speaker 4: my Instagram, let me change my last name Alreadie. I'm
Speaker 4: probably gonna wait a couple of months. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just think it's like a little bit of light
Speaker 4: when I see girls change it, like before I even
Speaker 4: knew there if I got married, like chill.
Speaker 2: Wow, So she's got an issue with people changing their
Speaker 2: names immediately, but not people who hound others for the
Speaker 2: Instagram Padel. Yeah, I mean she really wasn't very chill
Speaker 2: about the situation.
Speaker 1: Now, as if Catherine's.
Speaker 2: New billionaire in laws didn't have enough secondhand embarrassment from
Speaker 2: this scandal unfolding publicly, but they were also then dragged
Speaker 2: into the drama. So thanks to all of the attention
Speaker 2: Catherine created on the family, someone has dug up an
Speaker 2: undocumented worker exploitation of lawsuit involving arspalund Tree experts. So
Speaker 2: it just so happens that in twenty seventeen, Catherine's in
Speaker 2: law's family business pled guilty to employing workers they knew
Speaker 2: were using false identification papers. The family was fined ninety
Speaker 2: five million dollars, the largest payment ever imposed in an
Speaker 2: immigration case. Wow, so I'm assuming she probably wants to
Speaker 2: steer clear of.
Speaker 1: This last name now.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that the Asplund family would be
Speaker 2: that keen for her to be taking it on and
Speaker 2: getting even more attention towards their business. Catherine did end
Speaker 2: up deactivating her Instagram account because of the scandal, but
Speaker 2: it is now back on the platform.
Speaker 1: She is yet to post anything though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She has been posting tiktoks as normal though, and it
Speaker 2: appears that her attempts to get that Assplund last name
Speaker 2: have failed because she is still going by her maiden
Speaker 2: name on Instagram.
Speaker 5: When I saw people talking about how they thought it
Speaker 5: was crazy how I booked my sister a Ryanair flight
Speaker 5: to take her on her HANDU like, They're like, I
Speaker 5: can't believe that booked a Ryan knaflight for all, like
Speaker 5: for her sister's friends.
Speaker 2: Molly may Haig has hit back at critics who slammed
Speaker 2: her for booking a Ryan Air flight for her sister
Speaker 2: Zoe's hen's weekend. The budget airline was in stark contrast
Speaker 2: to the private jet she organized a month prior for
Speaker 2: her friend's birthday in the snow now. So if Molly
Speaker 2: addressed the controversy in her latest YouTube video, it is
Speaker 2: clear that this controversy has affected Molly and she feels
Speaker 2: compelled to share her side of the story. So she
Speaker 2: started by addressing the private jet that she booked for
Speaker 2: her friend Taylor's birthday, explaining the cost of the jet
Speaker 2: was split between the group and wasn't just funded by
Speaker 2: her now. Following that trip, Molly was slammed for flaunting
Speaker 2: her wealth and accused of not caring about her carbon footprint.
Speaker 2: Clearly she thought, if I fly commercial for my sister's
Speaker 2: Hen's weekend, people are going to get off my back.
Speaker 2: But no.
Speaker 1: Her flight with Ryan.
Speaker 2: Air fueled even more criticism and hate. Molly said she
Speaker 2: was made to feel like the worst sister and questioned
Speaker 2: what transport the general public would like her to take.
Speaker 2: Molly finished up by saying, you can never win it
Speaker 2: no matter what, and whatever she does, people will comment
Speaker 2: on it. I liked that Molly came out and actually
Speaker 2: addressed this drama going on, and she did it so
Speaker 2: well because in her vlog she was saying, I don't
Speaker 2: normally even respond to this stuff because there's so much
Speaker 2: that gets written about her, but I think it. I
Speaker 2: think she took it more personally because it involved her sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the criticism about this Hen's
Speaker 2: party stems from people building a narrative that Molly's sister
Speaker 2: Zoe is somehow living in her shadows and that Molly
Speaker 2: must treat her badly because she's not as wealthy and.
Speaker 1: Famous as her.
Speaker 2: So last year, Zoe left her job in the Army
Speaker 2: to follow in Molly's footsteps and become an influencer, and
Speaker 2: she has earned herself a name as being the everyday
Speaker 2: Molly May, so she's more relatable financially and also with
Speaker 2: day to day things. I actually don't think that Zoe
Speaker 2: is living in Molly's shadows at all. If anything, her
Speaker 2: YouTube channel and following is gaining huge momentum that she
Speaker 2: is nipping on Molly's toes. Well, you're right, because even
Speaker 2: after her Hen's weekend, I noticed her Instagram followers shot up.
Speaker 2: I think she's really got close to four hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of like the Kudashian situation, isn't it,
Speaker 2: where Kim claims that she's the one who's given her
Speaker 2: sisters the careers. Obviously, people became interested in Zoe because
Speaker 2: of the connection to Molly, but she, as you said,
Speaker 2: she is relatable. She does share very different content. She's
Speaker 2: more of a fitness influencer than i'd say a lifestyle influence.
Speaker 2: But I think that Molly is also so happy for her.
Speaker 2: The two bounce off each other. I don't like how
Speaker 2: they're having to create this competition between the two sisters.
Speaker 1: I also think it's quite interesting to analyze.
Speaker 2: The behavior of Zoe's followers because they seem very protective
Speaker 2: over Zoe and they think that Molly is not only
Speaker 2: stooging her on flights, but they also think that she
Speaker 2: purposely excluded Zoe from the Hen's blog that Molly created.
Speaker 2: So Zoe was only in a few scenes of the
Speaker 2: YouTube video, and most of it was made up of
Speaker 2: Molly talking back in her room with her friend. Here's
Speaker 2: what Zoe said about those accusations.
Speaker 6: So many questions about Ryan Flight. What's your opinion on
Speaker 6: the hate that Molly got over the Ryan Earthlight. I
Speaker 6: don't say anything. I just I'm sure you guys know
Speaker 6: me well enough now to know what I think about that.
Speaker 6: Poor girl can't do right if I'm wrong. She really can't,
Speaker 6: and I think it's quite sad. I just had to
Speaker 6: turn the comments off on that video as well for
Speaker 6: other reasons, which is again just absolutely ridiculous, because I
Speaker 6: wasn't in the video enough. I was in the video enough,
Speaker 6: and be honest, I'm really glad I wasn't in it
Speaker 6: more because anything she showed me anyway of me in it,
Speaker 6: I was tipsy and it was making me cringe. I
Speaker 6: never asked for it to be like a keepsake video.
Speaker 6: It was just fun to look back on and I
Speaker 6: love watching that video. I'll stop there now. Yeah, peace
Speaker 6: in love over here, peace and love only no hate.
Speaker 6: I love my sister, she loves me.
Speaker 2: I watched this blog and I did notice that Zoe
Speaker 2: wasn't in it as much as I thought she was
Speaker 2: going to be. But that's because Molly had a lot
Speaker 2: of other things going on. She is the maid of honor,
Speaker 2: she's organizing everything for the Hen's party. Also, who wants
Speaker 2: to be captured on their drunk off their face And
Speaker 2: with most vloggers, they don't actually capture the activities that
Speaker 2: go on because they don't want to take their camera out.
Speaker 2: They mainly film what has gone down back in the
Speaker 2: room or explain what's happened. Yeah, and she wasn't sharing
Speaker 2: a room with Zoe either, so that meant obviously there
Speaker 2: was going to be content that Molly filmed in her
Speaker 2: room with her friend because she's been slammed for featuring
Speaker 2: too much of her friend and not enough of Zoe.
Speaker 2: But also Zoe made the decision that she didn't want
Speaker 2: to vlog the trip because she wanted to just enjoy it.
Speaker 1: She didn't really want to be working.
Speaker 2: So I mean, as she said, Molly wasn't capturing a
Speaker 2: keepsake video. It was just something fun to have a
Speaker 2: look back on now. In a Q and A about
Speaker 2: her hands, Zoe addressed who paid for what, explaining that
Speaker 2: Molly was incredibly generous and covered all of the costs
Speaker 2: except for those Ryan airflights. So Molly paid for the
Speaker 2: very expensive accommodation, the activities, food, and everyone's drinks, and
Speaker 2: they went out to some pretty expensive dinners, so this
Speaker 2: bill would have been really high. I do love that
Speaker 2: Molly has copped so much crap about the Ryan Air flights,
Speaker 2: and that's the only thing that she actually didn't contribute
Speaker 2: to other than her own flight.
Speaker 1: So no one. They went Ryanair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though was a budget airline, the flights were
Speaker 2: very expensive. So it was about seven hundred pounds return
Speaker 2: each person. Do you think that's a lot to expect
Speaker 2: people to pay. I don't think it's that much, considering
Speaker 2: they then had all of their accommodation, their drinks, and
Speaker 2: all their food paid for. I'd be willing to pay
Speaker 2: seven hundred pounds to go on that hen's weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well Zoe felt the same way. This is what she
Speaker 2: said about it.
Speaker 6: All in all, I think it cost about seven hundred pounds,
Speaker 6: which for some people, for a hand do might be
Speaker 6: quite It's quite a lot. I know it is quite
Speaker 6: a lot. But they were all saying what my friends
Speaker 6: were saying, like for the experience of going to gat
Speaker 6: and you know, for the villa that was staying in,
Speaker 6: the food that we're getting, the drinks that were getting.
Speaker 6: Bearing in mind this obviously was including food, drinks, flights,
Speaker 6: like everything. They were really more than happy to spend
Speaker 6: that amount of money. And I did check with everyone
Speaker 6: before we booked anything, before we booked everything, that this
Speaker 6: was going to be okay.
Speaker 2: For everyone, and it was, Yeah, they're really paying for
Speaker 2: the experience, and some of Zoe's friends actually gave Zoe
Speaker 2: money to hand on to Molly because I think they
Speaker 2: felt a bit guilty at how expensive everything was. I
Speaker 2: actually think we're going to see a sponsorship deal with
Speaker 2: Zoe and Ryanair pop up, because in this Q and A,
Speaker 2: Zoe was very complimentary of the airline and she said
Speaker 2: it was actually a highlight of her trip flying Ryanair.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She said that they were popping mini bottles of prosecco
Speaker 2: on the flight and it was the first place that
Speaker 2: her and her friend started mingling and all getting to
Speaker 2: know each other. I think that Zoe would be the
Speaker 2: perfect brand ambassador for Ryanair because, as we said, she
Speaker 2: is the everyday Molly May. They could get a huge,
Speaker 2: like a really fun campaign. It I just don't understand
Speaker 2: the people that follow Zoe though, in terms of their
Speaker 2: mindset to then hate on her sister. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: unusual because I like following both of them because I
Speaker 2: found Zoe through Molly, who I really enjoy watching.
Speaker 4: I'm getting married tomorrow and I'm here in my room
Speaker 4: doing my self care.
Speaker 2: Anna McAvoy's social media strategy is under the spotlight with
Speaker 2: fans complaining she's drawn out her wedding content. The former
Speaker 2: Love Island contestant got married to her new husband, Michael
Speaker 2: Staples in core few last week, but it took five
Speaker 2: days until we got a glimpse of her first dress.
Speaker 2: This was a very hot topic in our Facebook community,
Speaker 2: with one listener saying, I really like her, but this
Speaker 2: has annoyed me so much build up, but it's almost
Speaker 2: been anticlimactic now. This is because, as you touched on, Amy,
Speaker 2: Anna did five wedding related posts before we even got
Speaker 2: a glimpse of the dress.
Speaker 1: So what were the other posts?
Speaker 2: Well, it's clear that she had some sort of sponsorship
Speaker 2: agreement going on with a wedding row brand called Homebody,
Speaker 2: because there were three reels of her in the robes,
Speaker 2: either getting ready with her friends or sitting there enjoying
Speaker 2: her wedding breakfast. There was also a flat lay photo
Speaker 2: of her shoes and accessories and some of the small
Speaker 2: reception details. And I just want to be clear, that's
Speaker 2: the photo that no one gives a fuck about. So
Speaker 2: I feel like when you're sharing your flat lay of
Speaker 2: your flowers in the morning or your shoes, that is
Speaker 2: the post that usually bombs. But I'm guessing maybe her
Speaker 2: shoes were sponsored and there were a few things going
Speaker 2: on that she was trying to create generate some sort
Speaker 2: of excitement ahead of the main post.
Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah, Now, the
Speaker 1: last video seemed to be the last.
Speaker 2: Straw for people because it was a video of Anna
Speaker 2: and Michael dancing around in casual clothes with the caption
Speaker 2: the next post you see will be our wedding pictures.
Speaker 1: Now, I was hanging out.
Speaker 2: To see these photos, but I was getting slightly irritated
Speaker 2: because I felt like saying, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: This isn't a royal wedding.
Speaker 2: Please stop gatekeeping your wedding photos from us, because we're interested.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm probably not interested.
Speaker 2: In a week because all people want to see is
Speaker 2: the dress.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as we see the dress, our
Speaker 1: attention levels bombed. We don't care anymore.
Speaker 2: I can't see one more wedding photo after that. Well,
Speaker 2: the wedding photos looked amazing, like they both looked incredible
Speaker 2: in the pictures.
Speaker 1: But I know what you mean. There can be the.
Speaker 2: Point where it gets there's too much waiting that's gone on,
Speaker 2: like your interest levels do drop. Yeah, well, it took
Speaker 2: five days for her to release the first photo, and
Speaker 2: it was a very stunning photo of her and Michael
Speaker 2: kissing as their bridal party threw rose petals over them.
Speaker 2: And Anna wore a custom made gown by a Melbourne
Speaker 2: designer and.
Speaker 1: It had a square neck and a huge skirt.
Speaker 2: It looked very PRINCESSI she had her hair back, and
Speaker 2: she looked very elegant and gorgeous.
Speaker 1: But as you say, Amy, because it had been so.
Speaker 2: Hyped, I was a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, is that it?
Speaker 2: Well? She has shared seven other wedding photos since, and
Speaker 2: one of them was hinting that she was going to
Speaker 2: reveal her second wedding dress, which turned out to be
Speaker 2: a lace number from the same designer. It was absolutely gorgeous,
Speaker 2: and Michael was also in a different colored suit, which
Speaker 2: seemed even more over the top this wedding.
Speaker 1: It was very extra.
Speaker 2: This wedding must have cost them a fortune. I know
Speaker 2: there were a number of sponsored elements, but not only
Speaker 2: did they have this extravagant wedding in Greece, but they
Speaker 2: also had a friend moon. They're now going on a
Speaker 2: huge honeymoon. How would you feel as a guest, because
Speaker 2: Anna made it quite clear that she didn't want any
Speaker 2: of her guests to share photos of her in a
Speaker 2: dress before she had the chance to, or any photos
Speaker 2: that revealed any of the wedding reception details or the ceremony.
Speaker 1: Would you be a little bit frustrated.
Speaker 2: I can understand that I wouldn't want someone sharing a
Speaker 2: photo of me before I was able to share the
Speaker 2: professional photographs as well. And I even think I get
Speaker 2: funny about people sharing fours of themselves at the wedding too,
Speaker 2: because sometimes it can give away a little detail, like
Speaker 2: what color the flowers were. When it's in this sort
Speaker 2: of case where it's someone who's high profile, Well, if
Speaker 2: it was someone like Tammy Hembro and she started sharing
Speaker 2: a lot of videos and stuff, I could understand maybe
Speaker 2: there'd be a bit of annoyance there because she's got
Speaker 2: such a big platform.
Speaker 1: But I put it out there.
Speaker 2: We actually also didn't say that Tammy Hembro overshadowed Anna
Speaker 2: Macavoy's wedding, because I've seen all these articles in the
Speaker 2: Daily Mail coming out.
Speaker 1: Like O'tspoken podcast said this, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, no, we were bringing up that some people had
Speaker 2: said that, yeah, and personally.
Speaker 1: We were just discussing that it was a bit unusual.
Speaker 2: To share a group photo where there's two couples kissing,
Speaker 2: like we were teetering on the edge whether she was
Speaker 2: overshadowing or not. Just can't put that out, I mean,
Speaker 2: And even since that discussion, I think Tammy has gone
Speaker 2: out of her way to allow Anna to have that
Speaker 2: spotlight on her. No, I think her etiquette since then
Speaker 2: has been very good. I think where some frustration is
Speaker 2: coming at the moment is because there has been such
Speaker 2: an oversaturation of wedding content where it seems.
Speaker 1: A bit overkill.
Speaker 2: But if anything, I almost feel bad for Anna because
Speaker 2: I recently got my wedding photos back, and I've got
Speaker 2: them all in little folders. I literally put so many
Speaker 2: photos over Facebook because I know that on Facebook it's dead.
Speaker 2: No one really cares, there's no rules on there's no rules,
Speaker 2: no one cares. But now on Instagram, I've got like,
Speaker 2: I want to share something of my reception, and then
Speaker 2: I want to share something of my ceremony, but I
Speaker 2: get that no one else gives a fuck, but I
Speaker 2: kind of just want it there for my own personal
Speaker 2: thing as a memory. So apologies if anyone follows me
Speaker 2: and is sick of seeing it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the reality.
Speaker 2: You've hit the nail on the head that after the event,
Speaker 2: no one really cares anymore.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know what's next, What are you doing next?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone's kind of seen the main photos and
Speaker 2: the reality is that nobody actually cares as much about
Speaker 2: your wedding as you do or.
Speaker 1: Did, and they all start looking the same. Like to you,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh wow.
Speaker 2: This is different, this is different lighting is it? But
Speaker 2: to everyone else like same white dress, boring, don't want
Speaker 2: to say anymore. Well, Anna's strategy seems to have worked
Speaker 2: because in the last thirty days she has gained over
Speaker 2: two thousand, five hundred followers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder also how many she's gained on TikTok, because
Speaker 2: I think a lot of her content isn't working as
Speaker 2: well on Instagram.
Speaker 1: But it's very much for a wedtalk crowd.
Speaker 2: I know, before I got married, I was constantly on
Speaker 2: wed talk trying to find ideas, and it is a
Speaker 2: really great way that you can grow your own following.
Speaker 7: I go on television, Yeah, on television. Yeah, ahways that
Speaker 7: I've been rather good at that. See Lester Darling Darling
Speaker 7: all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, piece of cakes. Yeah, television.
Speaker 7: Huh Hello, I'm Patsystone.
Speaker 2: Let's get into our highs and lows of the week.
Speaker 2: And I do want to touch on the fact that
Speaker 2: Kate isn't here. Don't worry anyone. She hasn't gone into
Speaker 2: labor or anything, but she is almost thirty seven weeks pregnant,
Speaker 2: so we thought that she needed to have a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of a rest.
Speaker 2: She did actually contribute to the notes. I can hear
Speaker 2: her yelling that she some of these were her toe.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's been working her guts out and she's
Speaker 2: thirty seven weeks pregnant, and she just recently had one
Speaker 2: of her latest scans and he said, look, you need
Speaker 2: to relax.
Speaker 1: Yes, you need to remember that you're pregnant.
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe people send Kate some well wishes because yeah,
Speaker 2: she's trying to chill out at home, but she's been
Speaker 2: a bit of a workaholic.
Speaker 1: Now getting into my.
Speaker 2: High of the week, it has to be the approaching
Speaker 2: birth of our nephew. And I have been blown away
Speaker 2: by some of the clothes that Target and.
Speaker 1: Big w have the baby clothes. They are so cute,
Speaker 1: so affordable. They've got like your.
Speaker 2: Favorite characters on there, like Spot or poo Bear or
Speaker 2: Peter Rabbit, like the cutest stuff. It's made me very
Speaker 2: excited and it's made it feel a whole lot more real.
Speaker 2: My low of the week, though, is also related to
Speaker 2: my new nephew who's coming in a few weeks, and
Speaker 2: it is that I had to have the hooping cough
Speaker 2: vaccine done and I also stupidly got my flu vaccine
Speaker 2: done at the same time, and I was completely wiped
Speaker 2: out for thirty six hours.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get out of bed.
Speaker 2: I was exhausted, I was shivering, I felt like I
Speaker 2: was going to faint and vomit.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's worth it to protect in society.
Speaker 2: Don't let that stop anyone from getting either of those
Speaker 2: back things important to get. Maybe just don't get them
Speaker 2: in the same day, because I mean, I didn't have
Speaker 2: as such adverse effects. But Dale also got it, Brandon's
Speaker 2: got his recently, and you do get very tired from having.
Speaker 1: Both of them.
Speaker 2: But it's so worthwhile, so important to get, but yes,
Speaker 2: avoid getting it on the same day. So my high
Speaker 2: of the week has been getting my new skincare from
Speaker 2: Trinny London. So I've been wanting to try out Trinny
Speaker 2: Woodle's skincare products for a while. Now I've on week one,
Speaker 2: loving it so far. I have to keep everyone updated.
Speaker 2: So far, so good. Well, the best thing about her
Speaker 2: products is that on the back she outlines how often
Speaker 2: you should you be using them, And that's an issue
Speaker 2: that I've had with other products before, is that when
Speaker 2: there's active ingredients, you have to be so careful and targeted.
Speaker 1: As to when you use them.
Speaker 2: So hers will outline use this once a day or
Speaker 2: use this once a week. Yeah, because it's really clear
Speaker 2: and the packaging is so nice. Like when I opened it,
Speaker 2: it's so sad. I was like, this is really sad
Speaker 2: that I'm so excited, but I got her. Is like
Speaker 2: this cleanser that came in a yellow bottle and it's
Speaker 2: so cool because you then only buy sort of the
Speaker 2: recharge bottles, yeah, the inserts, so it's cheaper when you
Speaker 2: next time I buy one of the bottles.
Speaker 1: Well. Also better for the environment too.
Speaker 2: My low is that I'm really disappointed in myself because
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to find some songs for my wedding videographer.
Speaker 2: So he contacted me this week saying, your wedding video
Speaker 2: is going to be done in the next week or two,
Speaker 2: but can you please send.
Speaker 1: Through some music that you like.
Speaker 2: And I think it's because I am a fellow videographer.
Speaker 2: He's realized I probably a bit of a control freak.
Speaker 2: But it is so hard to actually pick music. Like
Speaker 2: I find it hard enough to pick music for clients stuff,
Speaker 2: but when it's something as important as your wedding video,
Speaker 2: there's this extra level of stress. Well it's especially hard
Speaker 2: because it has to be royalty free music, so it's
Speaker 2: not like you can say, oh, this is my favorite song,
Speaker 2: let's chuck that over the top of it. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: currently looking for seven different songs.
Speaker 1: I like seven. How long is this video going for? Well,
Speaker 1: you don't just use one song you have, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the atmospheric music, you have others, you know, the pump
Speaker 1: up song.
Speaker 2: I think he should just pick them, send them to you,
Speaker 2: and you give the ticke of approval.
Speaker 1: I actually do like that he's asked me.
Speaker 2: But I'm a little bit disappointed now after our discussion
Speaker 2: on Anna, because I've realized that probably no one's going
Speaker 2: to care. Look, it's only you and the family that care.
Speaker 2: I reckon we'll do a screening night though, yeah, hoping
Speaker 2: we get the videos. Well, I think that's all we've
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a very famous Swiss artist. Apparently my name
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Speaker 2: a fun fact now this episode was recorded on the
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Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present.