1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and coming up 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: on today's show, a US influencer is accused of bullying 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: her namesake over her Instagram handle. Molly May addresses budget 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: airline controversy and Anna Macavoy's drawn out wedding content. But first, 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: A YouTuber has shared her unusual food quirk when it 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: comes to eating burgers, or anything round for that matter. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: Twenty three year old Anastasia kings North, who's built her 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: career of eating fast food, has admitted she never finishes 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: the last piece of anything round. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Here's what she said. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Okay, how I do harm on out today? So I 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: don't know if you know this about me either act today. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: It's very random, but I wouldn't really tell people. It's 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: just something I do. But when I have a burger 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: or I eat something round, I can't ever finish the 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: end of it, which makes no sense because it's round, 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: Like if I get to the end of the burger, 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: I have to leave the little end rim. 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: I can't eat it. I don't know why. 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: I've never been able to eat it, and a couple 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: of byrons noticed me do it before, and he's like, 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: why do you never finish the end? And I'm like, 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: I just can't, Like there's something in me. I just 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: can't finish the end of the burger because it's round. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: That is so weird. Yeah, because it's round. That makes 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: no Yeah, it's round. 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: So it's like, why can't I because I could have 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: started eating from that part, but that would probably be 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: my beige flag, Like when I'm eating something round, I 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: have to leave the little end of it. 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: I couldn't leave this when I heard it. Her co 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: host Saffron Barker also seemed a little taken back and 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: confused by the whole thing. All I can think of 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: is that I can't believe I haven't noticed her doing this, 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: because I have watched this girl eat a lot of hamburgers, 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: because most of her content she's sitting in a McDonald's 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: drives through and she films herself eating hamburgers. 40 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: How have we not picked up on this? I just 41 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: loved how. 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: She said it as if it was the most normal 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: thing ever, Like, oh, yeah, actually my bage flag is 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: that I do this. Yeah, it didn't really make any sense. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: And it reminds me of one of those things that 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: you think of doing as a child, and it makes 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: complete sense to you, and it drags on for too long, 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: and someone doesn't tell you that's weird. That being said, 49 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I have done this before. Okay, So when I was 50 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: in Balley, if I hadn't been able to wash my hands, 51 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: and I was really worried about getting barley belly, I 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: if I was eating, say a hamburger, I wouldn't eat 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the end of it which had touched my hand. 54 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: So maybe this is where this is coming from. 55 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: I never thought of it being a cleanliness thing. I 56 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: thought it was like one of those things that you 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: say to yourself or something bad will happen if I 58 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: do this or don't do this. Well, it seemed to 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: me as if she had an issue with round things. 60 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: That's what it came across as I was thinking about it, 61 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: because yes, this girl does eat a lot of hamburgers, 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: but there are so many round food objects. So you've 63 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: got pancakes, or you've got round biscuits. Does she eat 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: the end of those things? Or is every round item 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: she does not eat the end of so many questions 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: left unanswered. 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I have heard of. 68 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: People not eating the crust off your toast or a 69 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: sandwich because they don't want to get curly hair. I 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: wonder if she thinks that something like that's going to 71 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: happen to her if she eats the last little bit 72 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: of a round objects. Was there anything weird that you 73 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: do with your food that now you've retrospectively thought about? 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Not that I can think of. 75 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: I know, growing up, I used to like to eat 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: a lot of ice, But apparently that's actually linked to 77 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: ironed efficiency, So it does make sense. 78 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Catherine as online is going to be this better 79 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: version of Catherine Driscoll, like could happen. 80 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: A US influencer has been accused of trying to bully 81 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: her namesake into handing over her Instagram handle. Catherine Assplund, 82 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: formerly known as Driscoll, recently married a billionaire here and 83 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: wanted to make things Instagram official. However, there was one hitch. 84 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Someone already had the coveted Instagram handle. 85 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd be fighting for this last name. 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: We had to google how to pronounce it, and it 87 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: is ass Plund. 88 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: So the word ass that does make that last name. 89 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: Now, if you haven't heard of her, she is a 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: lifestyle influencer who has over eighty eight thousand and followers 91 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: on TikTok and fifteen thousand on Instagram. And on TikTok, 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: she goes by the handle lost Etiquette while on Instagram 93 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: she is Katherine drisk Now, the twenty seven year old 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: recently married Cabot Aarspland, who is the heir to the 95 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: billion dollar aarsplund Tree. 96 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Expert co Forge, I. 97 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: Would put money on it that this family is pretending 98 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: their name isn't Asspland and pronounces it completely differently. 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: It'll be like ash plums, like on keeping up with. 100 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Appearances, well, on keeping up with appearances. Her last name 101 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: is bucket, but she says it's bouquet. You could be 102 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: onto something now. The company is listed as the one 103 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: hundredth and ninth largest private company in America with the 104 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: revenue of five billion dollars in twenty twenty three. Who 105 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: knew there was so much money in trimming Tree. It's 106 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: like that is wild now. The couple got married at 107 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: the end of April in Palm Beach in Florida, and 108 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Catherine shared a lot of wedding content, including a video 109 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: of her dress that has a mast over eight point 110 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: five million views, so she is building quite career for 111 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: herself as a TikToker and as a lot of brides do. 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Catherine was keen to make her new name Instagram official, 113 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: but she quickly discovered that her desired Instagram handle of 114 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Katherine aspland was already taken. So Katherine instantly messaged the 115 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: owner of the account and asked if she could buy 116 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: the handle from her. So she explained to the girl 117 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: that she'd just gotten married and this was now her 118 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: new name. Now Catherine's namesake, who goes by Kate, replied, 119 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: congratulating the newlywed, but she politely declined the offer, saying 120 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: that she thought it was against Instagram's terms and conditions 121 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: and she didn't want to get banned from the platform. Also, 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: why should she give up her Instagram handle just because 123 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: some TikToker who's now married a billionaire is requesting her 124 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: to do so out of pure spite. I'd probably be like, no, sorry, 125 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 2: not changing it. Well, if I'd seen that she'd married 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: a billionaire, I might have been a bit interested to 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: know how much she was actually offering. Now, Catherine hit 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: back at Kate, saying it was untrue, and she had 129 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: previously purchased a username before so she wouldn't get banned. 130 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: She explained that that's how celebrities managed to get their 131 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: full names as their handles. 132 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: She also added, so weird. 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I didn't know there was another Asplun family out there. 134 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: There's no Katherine Asplund in our family. I see that 135 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: you're not that active on here, but started Instagram in 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, but changed your username three times. Is there 137 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: any way I can get you to change your username 138 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: one more time? 139 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: Wow? That's very passive aggressive. 140 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Kay went on to explain that she used the account 141 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: as a finster for private story. She said she was 142 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: sorry but couldn't agree as she didn't want to get bad. 143 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: God what what an fu though, Because she's obviously admitted 144 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: that this really isn't even her name, it doesn't mean 145 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: that much to have, and she could take up a 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: new finster. I think you're onto something, Amy, I reckon 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: she's clocked that she's a billionaire and is trying to 148 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: purposely make it difficult, so she offers her some money. 149 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: I think it more comes down to how Katherine Aspland 150 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: asked for the name. It was kind of very rude 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: and raceive, and I think this girl's gone, well, fuck you, 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm not handing it over. 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: It does become clear that Katherine isn't used to not 155 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: getting her way, because she did hit back, writing I 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: actually don't believe that your name is Katherine Aspland. Who 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: would make their finster their actual name? I reported you 158 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: to Instagram and they're actually able to tell me your 159 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: real name. I really hope I don't know you, because 160 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: that's going to be really embarrassing for you. So is 161 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 2: Catherine assuming that this Kate has purposely secured the name 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: just to piss her off. 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. 164 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: If you think of the names of your finsters, you 165 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: pick out of the air the most bizarre name that 166 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: you can think of. Obviously, this is the name that 167 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: this girl has come up with, and unfortunately she shares 168 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: the same name as this now aiir s well. Catherine 169 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: did go on to say that her fiance had also 170 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: reported Kate's account, and she then accused Kate of pretending 171 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: to be someone she was not and demanded she proved 172 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: that Katherine Aspland was her actual name. Now. Kate responded, writing, 173 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: why do I have to send you any proof of 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: who I am. This is my account. I've had it 175 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen. I'm sorry we share the same name, 176 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: but just because you got married doesn't mean you can 177 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: have my username. If you were nice, I would have 178 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: considered giving it to you for free, but you weren't. 179 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: I reported you for asking me to sell my account 180 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: and another report for harassing me. 181 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Have a good day. 182 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: I want to be friends with this girl with the filmster. 183 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: That is a legendary response that even how she said 184 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: I would have considered giving it to you for free, 185 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: that makes me think, yes, she is after money now. 186 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Since then, the conversation has found its way on to 187 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: Reddit and has gone viral. 188 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: And the backlash was very swift, with Catherine. 189 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: Labeled as a bully and entitled. It also prompted some 190 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: shit stirrs to go and create every possible variation of 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Catherine's married and made a name to ensure she can't 192 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: use it. 193 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: Of those good people are petty. 194 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see that online, and some people are 195 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: putting in their buyer that they are entitled and selfish. 196 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: When I was considering changing my Instagram handle to my 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: new married name, I did go and have a look, 198 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: and they were quite a number of Sophie Hancocks and 199 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: I really was never actually going to Yeah, but yours 200 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: is confusing because your handle is Sophie Underscore Torba. But 201 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: when you click on it then it says in your 202 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: bio that your name is Sophie Hancock. 203 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: It's quite confusing. 204 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, I just I thought if people 205 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: search for me, they can search Sophie Tawboro and or 206 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: come up. It's not that important. I'm definitely not going 207 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: to pay someone a large sum of money to get 208 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: a Sophie Handcock handle. It shows you how important she 209 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: thinks she is, even the fact that she referenced, oh, 210 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: this is how celebrities get their own hand or hunt. 211 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: You're on TikTok and Instagram. It's not like your j Lo. Yeah, 212 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: I mean, but she's also already has the Instagram handle 213 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: on TikTok lost etiquette. Why doesn't she just stick to 214 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: that that wasn't her name anywhere? Well, probably because she's 215 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: an heiress now thinks that she's important. I do love 216 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: how the Internet always provides receipts. Following the scandal, super 217 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: Thluf dug up a now deleted TikTok of Catherine's where 218 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: she spoke about how sad she was about giving up 219 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: her last name. She even said she wanted to hold 220 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: a funeral for her maiden name, and the video was 221 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: quite difficult to watch to give you the vibe. At 222 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: one point, she said this about her maiden name. 223 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: I also feel blessed by the fact that I was 224 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: given an incredible last name, Driscoll. It's amazing. It's great, 225 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: like my whole life. People are like, wow, you have 226 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: my favorite last name. Ever, Well, what about now. 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: She also spoke in a derogatory way about those who 228 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: choose to hyphenate their last name, saying this. 229 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: Trust me, I would never be that bitch to hyphenate 230 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: my name. I kind of hate that shit. Like when 231 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: I see women with hyphen needed last names, it looks 232 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: like they're already divorced, and like they're not. 233 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I take offense to this with my husband's name 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: already being hyphenated. 235 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah now. 236 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: Ironically, Catherine then went on to mock women who were 237 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: quick to update them names on social media after they 238 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: got married. 239 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: This is what she said. 240 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: Something else that Loki bothers me is when girls get 241 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: married and it's not even like ten minutes after they're 242 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: like do their vowers, Like they're like, ooh, go on 243 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: my Instagram, let me change my last name Alreadie. I'm 244 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: probably gonna wait a couple of months. I don't know. 245 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 4: I just think it's like a little bit of light 246 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: when I see girls change it, like before I even 247 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: knew there if I got married, like chill. 248 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: Wow, So she's got an issue with people changing their 249 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: names immediately, but not people who hound others for the 250 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: Instagram Padel. Yeah, I mean she really wasn't very chill 251 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: about the situation. 252 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: Now, as if Catherine's. 253 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: New billionaire in laws didn't have enough secondhand embarrassment from 254 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: this scandal unfolding publicly, but they were also then dragged 255 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: into the drama. So thanks to all of the attention 256 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Catherine created on the family, someone has dug up an 257 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: undocumented worker exploitation of lawsuit involving arspalund Tree experts. So 258 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: it just so happens that in twenty seventeen, Catherine's in 259 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: law's family business pled guilty to employing workers they knew 260 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: were using false identification papers. The family was fined ninety 261 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: five million dollars, the largest payment ever imposed in an 262 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: immigration case. Wow, so I'm assuming she probably wants to 263 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: steer clear of. 264 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: This last name now. 265 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that the Asplund family would be 266 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: that keen for her to be taking it on and 267 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: getting even more attention towards their business. Catherine did end 268 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: up deactivating her Instagram account because of the scandal, but 269 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: it is now back on the platform. 270 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: She is yet to post anything though. Yeah. 271 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: She has been posting tiktoks as normal though, and it 272 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: appears that her attempts to get that Assplund last name 273 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: have failed because she is still going by her maiden 274 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: name on Instagram. 275 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: When I saw people talking about how they thought it 276 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 5: was crazy how I booked my sister a Ryanair flight 277 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: to take her on her HANDU like, They're like, I 278 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: can't believe that booked a Ryan knaflight for all, like 279 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: for her sister's friends. 280 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: Molly may Haig has hit back at critics who slammed 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: her for booking a Ryan Air flight for her sister 282 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Zoe's hen's weekend. The budget airline was in stark contrast 283 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: to the private jet she organized a month prior for 284 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: her friend's birthday in the snow now. So if Molly 285 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: addressed the controversy in her latest YouTube video, it is 286 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: clear that this controversy has affected Molly and she feels 287 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: compelled to share her side of the story. So she 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: started by addressing the private jet that she booked for 289 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: her friend Taylor's birthday, explaining the cost of the jet 290 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: was split between the group and wasn't just funded by 291 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: her now. Following that trip, Molly was slammed for flaunting 292 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: her wealth and accused of not caring about her carbon footprint. 293 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: Clearly she thought, if I fly commercial for my sister's 294 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Hen's weekend, people are going to get off my back. 295 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: But no. 296 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Her flight with Ryan. 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: Air fueled even more criticism and hate. Molly said she 298 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: was made to feel like the worst sister and questioned 299 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: what transport the general public would like her to take. 300 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Molly finished up by saying, you can never win it 301 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: no matter what, and whatever she does, people will comment 302 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: on it. I liked that Molly came out and actually 303 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: addressed this drama going on, and she did it so 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: well because in her vlog she was saying, I don't 305 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: normally even respond to this stuff because there's so much 306 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: that gets written about her, but I think it. I 307 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: think she took it more personally because it involved her sister. 308 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 309 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the criticism about this Hen's 310 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: party stems from people building a narrative that Molly's sister 311 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: Zoe is somehow living in her shadows and that Molly 312 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: must treat her badly because she's not as wealthy and. 313 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Famous as her. 314 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: So last year, Zoe left her job in the Army 315 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: to follow in Molly's footsteps and become an influencer, and 316 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: she has earned herself a name as being the everyday 317 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: Molly May, so she's more relatable financially and also with 318 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: day to day things. I actually don't think that Zoe 319 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: is living in Molly's shadows at all. If anything, her 320 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: YouTube channel and following is gaining huge momentum that she 321 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: is nipping on Molly's toes. Well, you're right, because even 322 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: after her Hen's weekend, I noticed her Instagram followers shot up. 323 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: I think she's really got close to four hundred thousand followers. 324 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of like the Kudashian situation, isn't it, 325 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: where Kim claims that she's the one who's given her 326 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: sisters the careers. Obviously, people became interested in Zoe because 327 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: of the connection to Molly, but she, as you said, 328 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: she is relatable. She does share very different content. She's 329 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: more of a fitness influencer than i'd say a lifestyle influence. 330 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: But I think that Molly is also so happy for her. 331 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: The two bounce off each other. I don't like how 332 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: they're having to create this competition between the two sisters. 333 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I also think it's quite interesting to analyze. 334 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: The behavior of Zoe's followers because they seem very protective 335 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: over Zoe and they think that Molly is not only 336 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: stooging her on flights, but they also think that she 337 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: purposely excluded Zoe from the Hen's blog that Molly created. 338 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: So Zoe was only in a few scenes of the 339 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: YouTube video, and most of it was made up of 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: Molly talking back in her room with her friend. Here's 341 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: what Zoe said about those accusations. 342 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 6: So many questions about Ryan Flight. What's your opinion on 343 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 6: the hate that Molly got over the Ryan Earthlight. I 344 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 6: don't say anything. I just I'm sure you guys know 345 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 6: me well enough now to know what I think about that. 346 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 6: Poor girl can't do right if I'm wrong. She really can't, 347 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: and I think it's quite sad. I just had to 348 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: turn the comments off on that video as well for 349 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: other reasons, which is again just absolutely ridiculous, because I 350 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: wasn't in the video enough. I was in the video enough, 351 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: and be honest, I'm really glad I wasn't in it 352 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: more because anything she showed me anyway of me in it, 353 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 6: I was tipsy and it was making me cringe. I 354 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: never asked for it to be like a keepsake video. 355 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: It was just fun to look back on and I 356 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 6: love watching that video. I'll stop there now. Yeah, peace 357 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 6: in love over here, peace and love only no hate. 358 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 6: I love my sister, she loves me. 359 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: I watched this blog and I did notice that Zoe 360 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: wasn't in it as much as I thought she was 361 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: going to be. But that's because Molly had a lot 362 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: of other things going on. She is the maid of honor, 363 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: she's organizing everything for the Hen's party. Also, who wants 364 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: to be captured on their drunk off their face And 365 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: with most vloggers, they don't actually capture the activities that 366 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: go on because they don't want to take their camera out. 367 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: They mainly film what has gone down back in the 368 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: room or explain what's happened. Yeah, and she wasn't sharing 369 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: a room with Zoe either, so that meant obviously there 370 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 2: was going to be content that Molly filmed in her 371 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: room with her friend because she's been slammed for featuring 372 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: too much of her friend and not enough of Zoe. 373 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: But also Zoe made the decision that she didn't want 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: to vlog the trip because she wanted to just enjoy it. 375 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: She didn't really want to be working. 376 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: So I mean, as she said, Molly wasn't capturing a 377 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: keepsake video. It was just something fun to have a 378 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: look back on now. In a Q and A about 379 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: her hands, Zoe addressed who paid for what, explaining that 380 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: Molly was incredibly generous and covered all of the costs 381 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: except for those Ryan airflights. So Molly paid for the 382 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: very expensive accommodation, the activities, food, and everyone's drinks, and 383 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: they went out to some pretty expensive dinners, so this 384 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: bill would have been really high. I do love that 385 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: Molly has copped so much crap about the Ryan Air flights, 386 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: and that's the only thing that she actually didn't contribute 387 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: to other than her own flight. 388 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: So no one. They went Ryanair. 389 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, even though was a budget airline, the flights were 390 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: very expensive. So it was about seven hundred pounds return 391 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: each person. Do you think that's a lot to expect 392 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: people to pay. I don't think it's that much, considering 393 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: they then had all of their accommodation, their drinks, and 394 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: all their food paid for. I'd be willing to pay 395 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: seven hundred pounds to go on that hen's weekend. Yeah, 396 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: well Zoe felt the same way. This is what she 397 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: said about it. 398 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 6: All in all, I think it cost about seven hundred pounds, 399 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 6: which for some people, for a hand do might be 400 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 6: quite It's quite a lot. I know it is quite 401 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: a lot. But they were all saying what my friends 402 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: were saying, like for the experience of going to gat 403 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 6: and you know, for the villa that was staying in, 404 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: the food that we're getting, the drinks that were getting. 405 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 6: Bearing in mind this obviously was including food, drinks, flights, 406 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 6: like everything. They were really more than happy to spend 407 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 6: that amount of money. And I did check with everyone 408 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 6: before we booked anything, before we booked everything, that this 409 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 6: was going to be okay. 410 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: For everyone, and it was, Yeah, they're really paying for 411 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: the experience, and some of Zoe's friends actually gave Zoe 412 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: money to hand on to Molly because I think they 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: felt a bit guilty at how expensive everything was. I 414 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: actually think we're going to see a sponsorship deal with 415 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Zoe and Ryanair pop up, because in this Q and A, 416 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: Zoe was very complimentary of the airline and she said 417 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: it was actually a highlight of her trip flying Ryanair. 418 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 419 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: She said that they were popping mini bottles of prosecco 420 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: on the flight and it was the first place that 421 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: her and her friend started mingling and all getting to 422 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: know each other. I think that Zoe would be the 423 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: perfect brand ambassador for Ryanair because, as we said, she 424 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 2: is the everyday Molly May. They could get a huge, 425 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: like a really fun campaign. It I just don't understand 426 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: the people that follow Zoe though, in terms of their 427 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: mindset to then hate on her sister. Yeah, it's very 428 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: unusual because I like following both of them because I 429 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: found Zoe through Molly, who I really enjoy watching. 430 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm getting married tomorrow and I'm here in my room 431 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 4: doing my self care. 432 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: Anna McAvoy's social media strategy is under the spotlight with 433 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: fans complaining she's drawn out her wedding content. The former 434 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: Love Island contestant got married to her new husband, Michael 435 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: Staples in core few last week, but it took five 436 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: days until we got a glimpse of her first dress. 437 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: This was a very hot topic in our Facebook community, 438 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: with one listener saying, I really like her, but this 439 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: has annoyed me so much build up, but it's almost 440 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: been anticlimactic now. This is because, as you touched on, Amy, 441 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: Anna did five wedding related posts before we even got 442 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: a glimpse of the dress. 443 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: So what were the other posts? 444 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's clear that she had some sort of sponsorship 445 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: agreement going on with a wedding row brand called Homebody, 446 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: because there were three reels of her in the robes, 447 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: either getting ready with her friends or sitting there enjoying 448 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: her wedding breakfast. There was also a flat lay photo 449 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: of her shoes and accessories and some of the small 450 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: reception details. And I just want to be clear, that's 451 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: the photo that no one gives a fuck about. So 452 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: I feel like when you're sharing your flat lay of 453 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: your flowers in the morning or your shoes, that is 454 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: the post that usually bombs. But I'm guessing maybe her 455 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: shoes were sponsored and there were a few things going 456 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: on that she was trying to create generate some sort 457 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: of excitement ahead of the main post. 458 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what she was doing. Yeah, Now, the 459 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: last video seemed to be the last. 460 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: Straw for people because it was a video of Anna 461 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: and Michael dancing around in casual clothes with the caption 462 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: the next post you see will be our wedding pictures. 463 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Now, I was hanging out. 464 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: To see these photos, but I was getting slightly irritated 465 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: because I felt like saying, I'm sorry. 466 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: This isn't a royal wedding. 467 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: Please stop gatekeeping your wedding photos from us, because we're interested. 468 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Now, I'm probably not interested. 469 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: In a week because all people want to see is 470 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: the dress. 471 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: And then as soon as we see the dress, our 472 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: attention levels bombed. We don't care anymore. 473 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: I can't see one more wedding photo after that. Well, 474 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: the wedding photos looked amazing, like they both looked incredible 475 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: in the pictures. 476 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: But I know what you mean. There can be the. 477 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: Point where it gets there's too much waiting that's gone on, 478 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: like your interest levels do drop. Yeah, well, it took 479 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: five days for her to release the first photo, and 480 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: it was a very stunning photo of her and Michael 481 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: kissing as their bridal party threw rose petals over them. 482 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: And Anna wore a custom made gown by a Melbourne 483 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: designer and. 484 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: It had a square neck and a huge skirt. 485 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: It looked very PRINCESSI she had her hair back, and 486 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: she looked very elegant and gorgeous. 487 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: But as you say, Amy, because it had been so. 488 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: Hyped, I was a little bit disappointed. 489 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: I was like, ah, is that it? 490 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: Well? She has shared seven other wedding photos since, and 491 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: one of them was hinting that she was going to 492 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: reveal her second wedding dress, which turned out to be 493 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: a lace number from the same designer. It was absolutely gorgeous, 494 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: and Michael was also in a different colored suit, which 495 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: seemed even more over the top this wedding. 496 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: It was very extra. 497 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: This wedding must have cost them a fortune. I know 498 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: there were a number of sponsored elements, but not only 499 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: did they have this extravagant wedding in Greece, but they 500 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: also had a friend moon. They're now going on a 501 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: huge honeymoon. How would you feel as a guest, because 502 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: Anna made it quite clear that she didn't want any 503 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: of her guests to share photos of her in a 504 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: dress before she had the chance to, or any photos 505 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: that revealed any of the wedding reception details or the ceremony. 506 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Would you be a little bit frustrated. 507 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: I can understand that I wouldn't want someone sharing a 508 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: photo of me before I was able to share the 509 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: professional photographs as well. And I even think I get 510 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: funny about people sharing fours of themselves at the wedding too, 511 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: because sometimes it can give away a little detail, like 512 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: what color the flowers were. When it's in this sort 513 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: of case where it's someone who's high profile, Well, if 514 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: it was someone like Tammy Hembro and she started sharing 515 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: a lot of videos and stuff, I could understand maybe 516 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: there'd be a bit of annoyance there because she's got 517 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: such a big platform. 518 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: But I put it out there. 519 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: We actually also didn't say that Tammy Hembro overshadowed Anna 520 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: Macavoy's wedding, because I've seen all these articles in the 521 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: Daily Mail coming out. 522 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Like O'tspoken podcast said this, and it's. 523 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Like, no, we were bringing up that some people had 524 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: said that, yeah, and personally. 525 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: We were just discussing that it was a bit unusual. 526 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: To share a group photo where there's two couples kissing, 527 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: like we were teetering on the edge whether she was 528 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: overshadowing or not. Just can't put that out, I mean, 529 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: And even since that discussion, I think Tammy has gone 530 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: out of her way to allow Anna to have that 531 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: spotlight on her. No, I think her etiquette since then 532 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: has been very good. I think where some frustration is 533 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: coming at the moment is because there has been such 534 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: an oversaturation of wedding content where it seems. 535 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: A bit overkill. 536 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: But if anything, I almost feel bad for Anna because 537 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: I recently got my wedding photos back, and I've got 538 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: them all in little folders. I literally put so many 539 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: photos over Facebook because I know that on Facebook it's dead. 540 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: No one really cares, there's no rules on there's no rules, 541 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: no one cares. But now on Instagram, I've got like, 542 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: I want to share something of my reception, and then 543 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: I want to share something of my ceremony, but I 544 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: get that no one else gives a fuck, but I 545 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of just want it there for my own personal 546 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: thing as a memory. So apologies if anyone follows me 547 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: and is sick of seeing it. 548 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's the reality. 549 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: You've hit the nail on the head that after the event, 550 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: no one really cares anymore. 551 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know what's next, What are you doing next? 552 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone's kind of seen the main photos and 553 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: the reality is that nobody actually cares as much about 554 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: your wedding as you do or. 555 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: Did, and they all start looking the same. Like to you, 556 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh wow. 557 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 2: This is different, this is different lighting is it? But 558 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 2: to everyone else like same white dress, boring, don't want 559 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: to say anymore. Well, Anna's strategy seems to have worked 560 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: because in the last thirty days she has gained over 561 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: two thousand, five hundred followers. 562 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 563 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: I wonder also how many she's gained on TikTok, because 564 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: I think a lot of her content isn't working as 565 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: well on Instagram. 566 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: But it's very much for a wedtalk crowd. 567 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 2: I know, before I got married, I was constantly on 568 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: wed talk trying to find ideas, and it is a 569 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: really great way that you can grow your own following. 570 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 7: I go on television, Yeah, on television. Yeah, ahways that 571 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 7: I've been rather good at that. See Lester Darling Darling 572 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 7: all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, piece of cakes. Yeah, television. 573 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 7: Huh Hello, I'm Patsystone. 574 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: Let's get into our highs and lows of the week. 575 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: And I do want to touch on the fact that 576 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Kate isn't here. Don't worry anyone. She hasn't gone into 577 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: labor or anything, but she is almost thirty seven weeks pregnant, 578 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: so we thought that she needed to have a little. 579 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: Bit of a rest. 580 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: She did actually contribute to the notes. I can hear 581 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: her yelling that she some of these were her toe. 582 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's been working her guts out and she's 583 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: thirty seven weeks pregnant, and she just recently had one 584 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: of her latest scans and he said, look, you need 585 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: to relax. 586 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: Yes, you need to remember that you're pregnant. 587 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe people send Kate some well wishes because yeah, 588 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: she's trying to chill out at home, but she's been 589 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: a bit of a workaholic. 590 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Now getting into my. 591 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: High of the week, it has to be the approaching 592 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: birth of our nephew. And I have been blown away 593 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: by some of the clothes that Target and. 594 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: Big w have the baby clothes. They are so cute, 595 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: so affordable. They've got like your. 596 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: Favorite characters on there, like Spot or poo Bear or 597 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: Peter Rabbit, like the cutest stuff. It's made me very 598 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: excited and it's made it feel a whole lot more real. 599 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: My low of the week, though, is also related to 600 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: my new nephew who's coming in a few weeks, and 601 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: it is that I had to have the hooping cough 602 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: vaccine done and I also stupidly got my flu vaccine 603 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: done at the same time, and I was completely wiped 604 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: out for thirty six hours. 605 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: I couldn't get out of bed. 606 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: I was exhausted, I was shivering, I felt like I 607 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: was going to faint and vomit. 608 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, it's worth it to protect in society. 609 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: Don't let that stop anyone from getting either of those 610 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: back things important to get. Maybe just don't get them 611 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: in the same day, because I mean, I didn't have 612 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: as such adverse effects. But Dale also got it, Brandon's 613 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: got his recently, and you do get very tired from having. 614 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Both of them. 615 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: But it's so worthwhile, so important to get, but yes, 616 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: avoid getting it on the same day. So my high 617 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: of the week has been getting my new skincare from 618 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Trinny London. So I've been wanting to try out Trinny 619 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: Woodle's skincare products for a while. Now I've on week one, 620 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: loving it so far. I have to keep everyone updated. 621 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: So far, so good. Well, the best thing about her 622 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: products is that on the back she outlines how often 623 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: you should you be using them, And that's an issue 624 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: that I've had with other products before, is that when 625 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: there's active ingredients, you have to be so careful and targeted. 626 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: As to when you use them. 627 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: So hers will outline use this once a day or 628 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: use this once a week. Yeah, because it's really clear 629 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: and the packaging is so nice. Like when I opened it, 630 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: it's so sad. I was like, this is really sad 631 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: that I'm so excited, but I got her. Is like 632 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: this cleanser that came in a yellow bottle and it's 633 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: so cool because you then only buy sort of the 634 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: recharge bottles, yeah, the inserts, so it's cheaper when you 635 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: next time I buy one of the bottles. 636 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Well. Also better for the environment too. 637 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: My low is that I'm really disappointed in myself because 638 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: I've been meaning to find some songs for my wedding videographer. 639 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: So he contacted me this week saying, your wedding video 640 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: is going to be done in the next week or two, 641 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: but can you please send. 642 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Through some music that you like. 643 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: And I think it's because I am a fellow videographer. 644 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: He's realized I probably a bit of a control freak. 645 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: But it is so hard to actually pick music. Like 646 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: I find it hard enough to pick music for clients stuff, 647 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: but when it's something as important as your wedding video, 648 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: there's this extra level of stress. Well it's especially hard 649 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: because it has to be royalty free music, so it's 650 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: not like you can say, oh, this is my favorite song, 651 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: let's chuck that over the top of it. Well, I'm 652 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: currently looking for seven different songs. 653 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: I like seven. How long is this video going for? Well, 654 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: you don't just use one song you have, like, you know, 655 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: the atmospheric music, you have others, you know, the pump 656 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: up song. 657 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 2: I think he should just pick them, send them to you, 658 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: and you give the ticke of approval. 659 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I actually do like that he's asked me. 660 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: But I'm a little bit disappointed now after our discussion 661 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: on Anna, because I've realized that probably no one's going 662 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: to care. Look, it's only you and the family that care. 663 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: I reckon we'll do a screening night though, yeah, hoping 664 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: we get the videos. Well, I think that's all we've 665 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: got time for. Thank you for listening to another episode 666 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: of Outspoken. If you have enjoyed it, could you please 667 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: make sure you are subscribed on Apple podcast and also Spotify. 668 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: You also can become an Outspoken subscriber, so on our 669 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: subscriber show this week, we have spoken about a number 670 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: of smaller influencer topics that you can seek your teeth in, dude, 671 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: and don't forget to follow the podcast on Instagram at 672 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Outspoken Underscore the Underscore Podcast. You can also follow Sophie, 673 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: Kate and I on Instagram. 674 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm at Amy. 675 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Torba, so Sophie Underscore Torba and Kate is at Kate 676 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: Torba spelt t a e u b e er. Is 677 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: this just a cheeky thing because we've got our handles, 678 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: we didn't have to pay for them like this billionaire woman. Yeah, 679 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: thankfully there's not really another Amy Torber out there. 680 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: There is another Sophie Tourba though. 681 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a very famous Swiss artist. Apparently my name 682 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: does feature on some Swiss money. That's a bit of 683 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: a fun fact now this episode was recorded on the 684 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 685 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present.