1 00:00:04,021 --> 00:00:07,771 Mundanara Bayles: Black Magic Woman podcast acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the 2 00:00:07,771 --> 00:00:11,461 Mundanara Bayles: land we have recorded this episode on. We also acknowledge 3 00:00:11,461 --> 00:00:14,581 Mundanara Bayles: Traditional Owners of the land where you, the listener or 4 00:00:14,581 --> 00:00:17,220 Mundanara Bayles: viewer, are tuning in from. We would like to pay 5 00:00:17,221 --> 00:00:20,551 Mundanara Bayles: our respects to our elders, past and present, and acknowledge 6 00:00:20,551 --> 00:00:23,851 Mundanara Bayles: that this always was Aboriginal land and always will be 7 00:00:24,061 --> 00:00:24,811 Mundanara Bayles: Aboriginal land. 8 00:00:26,521 --> 00:00:29,761 Speaker 2: This episode is proudly brought to you by ANZ. A 9 00:00:29,761 --> 00:00:33,270 Speaker 2: new series of conversations with different mob around the country, 10 00:00:33,301 --> 00:00:37,350 Speaker 2: to yarn about meaningful career opportunities within ANZ, building the 11 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:42,271 Speaker 2: capacity of Indigenous businesses and organizations, and helping individuals in 12 00:00:42,271 --> 00:00:46,110 Speaker 2: the broader community to achieve financial wellbeing and resilience. 13 00:00:51,301 --> 00:01:04,202 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman podcast with Mundanara Bayles. 14 00:01:04,202 --> 00:01:09,090 Mundanara Bayles: Welcome, you mob, to another deadly episode of the Black Magic Woman podcast. I am your host, Mundanara Bayles, and this is an 15 00:01:09,091 --> 00:01:13,650 Mundanara Bayles: episode like no other. We're going to literally talk all 16 00:01:13,651 --> 00:01:19,081 Mundanara Bayles: things Black business, entrepreneurship, by actually talking to Black business 17 00:01:19,081 --> 00:01:24,871 Mundanara Bayles: owners themself. Each year, ANZ host an Indigenous Business Marketplace 18 00:01:24,871 --> 00:01:29,431 Mundanara Bayles: to celebrate NAIDOC Week. Supported by Kinaway and Supply Nation, 19 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:32,821 Mundanara Bayles: there are First Nations businesses that get to showcase their 20 00:01:32,821 --> 00:01:37,621 Mundanara Bayles: products, their services, in the actual foyer in ANZ's headquarters 21 00:01:37,621 --> 00:01:42,571 Mundanara Bayles: here on beautiful Wurundjeri country in Kulin, AKA, in Melbourne. 22 00:01:42,721 --> 00:01:45,450 Mundanara Bayles: I got to speak to some deadly up- and- coming 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,170 Mundanara Bayles: and also people that have been doing this for 20 24 00:01:49,170 --> 00:01:52,801 Mundanara Bayles: years in terms of business, the hustle. I got to 25 00:01:52,801 --> 00:01:57,031 Mundanara Bayles: speak to Josh Deane. And Josh is an artist, a 26 00:01:57,031 --> 00:02:00,931 Mundanara Bayles: nurse, fashion designer, I think he's a tiler or a 27 00:02:00,931 --> 00:02:04,650 Mundanara Bayles: chippy as well. And he's done some amazing murals here 28 00:02:04,921 --> 00:02:08,970 Mundanara Bayles: in Melbourne and also grew up on Kabi Kabi country, so I 29 00:02:09,090 --> 00:02:11,821 Mundanara Bayles: got to connect with him. And I got to hear from 30 00:02:11,851 --> 00:02:15,091 Mundanara Bayles: my sister, Sara Stuart, about a new business venture that 31 00:02:15,091 --> 00:02:19,470 Mundanara Bayles: she literally just launched this week here in NAIDOC week. 32 00:02:19,591 --> 00:02:22,710 Mundanara Bayles: Then I was able to yarn with an old uncle, Uncle 33 00:02:22,711 --> 00:02:26,371 Mundanara Bayles: Mick. Uncle Mick's got this amazing business where I was 34 00:02:26,371 --> 00:02:30,961 Mundanara Bayles: looking at coffee cups and chopping boards and engravings and 35 00:02:30,961 --> 00:02:33,331 Mundanara Bayles: burnings. Look, I'm not going to give too much more 36 00:02:33,331 --> 00:02:36,451 Mundanara Bayles: away. That's just a few of the amazing people that 37 00:02:36,451 --> 00:02:39,120 Mundanara Bayles: you're now going to hear about on this amazing ANZ 38 00:02:39,121 --> 00:02:44,040 Mundanara Bayles: episode. Hope you enjoy. I'm here today to showcase some 39 00:02:44,041 --> 00:02:48,210 Mundanara Bayles: amazing Black business owners that are here at the ANZ 40 00:02:48,571 --> 00:02:53,611 Mundanara Bayles: Docklands headquarters. So my sister, first on the couch, thank 41 00:02:53,611 --> 00:02:56,670 Mundanara Bayles: you very much for joining me on the show today. 42 00:02:56,701 --> 00:02:59,850 Mundanara Bayles: And if you don't mind, can you introduce yourself, tell 43 00:03:00,241 --> 00:03:03,750 Mundanara Bayles: our listeners, and also viewers on YouTube, your name, your 44 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:05,851 Mundanara Bayles: mob, and a little bit about where you grew up. 45 00:03:06,121 --> 00:03:10,741 Emma Bamblett: Yep. So my name's Emma Bamblett. My mobs are, on 46 00:03:10,741 --> 00:03:15,241 Emma Bamblett: both my mom and dad's side, my kinship connections, Wemba- 47 00:03:15,271 --> 00:03:20,101 Emma Bamblett: Wemba, Gunditjmara, Narrogin and Taungurung. I am currently living in Naarm 48 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:25,081 Emma Bamblett: for over the last 22 years. Originally from Echuca on the Murray 49 00:03:25,081 --> 00:03:29,041 Emma Bamblett: River, born and raised on beautiful Yorta Yorta country. And I 50 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:32,431 Emma Bamblett: live in Naarm with my four children, and I've got two beautiful 51 00:03:32,431 --> 00:03:36,631 Emma Bamblett: little granddaughters. And yeah, very lucky to be connected to 52 00:03:36,631 --> 00:03:41,371 Emma Bamblett: the Bambletts through hubby, through Ralphie. And I'm here today to 53 00:03:41,371 --> 00:03:45,421 Emma Bamblett: represent Kinya Lerrk, which means Women Coming Together, our small business. 54 00:03:45,901 --> 00:03:49,141 Emma Bamblett: Myself and co- owner, Megan Van Den Berg, we're five 55 00:03:49,141 --> 00:03:50,633 Emma Bamblett: years now, celebrating this year five years (inaudible) . 56 00:03:50,791 --> 00:03:51,631 Mundanara Bayles: Congratulations. 57 00:03:51,631 --> 00:03:52,111 Emma Bamblett: Thank you. 58 00:03:52,171 --> 00:03:55,950 Mundanara Bayles: So sis, tell us, I had an opportunity to come 59 00:03:55,951 --> 00:04:00,931 Mundanara Bayles: over to the store. And Kurrek, the first thing I did was 60 00:04:01,171 --> 00:04:03,601 Mundanara Bayles: have a look and see what is it that youse 61 00:04:03,601 --> 00:04:06,451 Mundanara Bayles: got going on over there, I noticed that this spray, 62 00:04:06,451 --> 00:04:07,891 Mundanara Bayles: it was the first scent that you kind of said, " 63 00:04:07,891 --> 00:04:10,560 Mundanara Bayles: Smell this, sis." So tell us about some of the 64 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,331 Mundanara Bayles: products that you're selling today. 65 00:04:12,541 --> 00:04:16,321 Emma Bamblett: So during lockdown, Megan and I brought out our Back 66 00:04:16,321 --> 00:04:19,921 Emma Bamblett: to Country range. So for mob it was really hard 67 00:04:20,131 --> 00:04:23,521 Emma Bamblett: living in Melbourne that time when we could only go 68 00:04:23,521 --> 00:04:26,430 Emma Bamblett: five kilometers out of the house. And it was hard for 69 00:04:26,431 --> 00:04:30,151 Emma Bamblett: mob that were wanting to go back to country, to 70 00:04:30,331 --> 00:04:33,330 Emma Bamblett: recharge battery, for sorry business, that we couldn't, so we 71 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:36,241 Emma Bamblett: brought out a Back to Country range. So after the 72 00:04:36,241 --> 00:04:38,281 Emma Bamblett: Back to Country range we brought out Kurrek, which means 73 00:04:38,281 --> 00:04:42,871 Emma Bamblett: country land sand in Wemba-Wemba. And it's a beautiful scent 74 00:04:42,931 --> 00:04:45,840 Emma Bamblett: to take you back to the smell of sand, so 75 00:04:46,140 --> 00:04:51,482 Emma Bamblett: the base scents are patchouli, sandalwood and vanilla, and- 76 00:04:51,482 --> 00:04:54,931 Mundanara Bayles: I can smell the sandalwood. That was my mother's favorite scent. 77 00:04:55,051 --> 00:04:55,561 Emma Bamblett: Oh, nice. 78 00:04:55,561 --> 00:04:57,571 Mundanara Bayles: It's probably why... I didn't know that it was in there, 79 00:04:57,931 --> 00:05:00,270 Mundanara Bayles: you rattled off all these things and I was so caught up 80 00:05:00,270 --> 00:05:02,610 Mundanara Bayles: in the store. So sandalwood? 81 00:05:02,881 --> 00:05:07,740 Emma Bamblett: Is that connection to that scent of being back on 82 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:11,251 Emma Bamblett: country. And it's one of our most popular products that 83 00:05:11,251 --> 00:05:13,290 Emma Bamblett: we sell is the room spray. So you can spray it 84 00:05:13,291 --> 00:05:16,231 Emma Bamblett: on your linen, I spray it in the car. And 85 00:05:16,231 --> 00:05:20,610 Emma Bamblett: also we've got a candle, diffuser, hand and body wash 86 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:21,991 Emma Bamblett: in that range. 87 00:05:22,201 --> 00:05:27,151 Mundanara Bayles: And I saw some books, note pads. I saw, was 88 00:05:27,151 --> 00:05:29,461 Mundanara Bayles: it drink bottles? And there's a whole lot of things 89 00:05:29,461 --> 00:05:29,910 Mundanara Bayles: over there. 90 00:05:29,910 --> 00:05:35,670 Emma Bamblett: So we really... the start of the business in 2019 was originally 91 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:38,611 Emma Bamblett: we wanted all our schools to have acknowledgement to country 92 00:05:38,970 --> 00:05:41,881 Emma Bamblett: plaques. So that's the core of the business. We started 93 00:05:41,881 --> 00:05:46,470 Emma Bamblett: off with five online ranges. So they're matt metal plaques 94 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:49,081 Emma Bamblett: that you put up in schools or workplaces or homes. 95 00:05:49,291 --> 00:05:52,410 Emma Bamblett: And from there we grew onto the candles online. 96 00:05:52,501 --> 00:05:54,781 Mundanara Bayles: This is Covid lockdown? 97 00:05:54,871 --> 00:05:55,470 Emma Bamblett: Covid lockdown. 98 00:05:55,591 --> 00:05:59,970 Mundanara Bayles: This is a really good example of pivoting your whole business 99 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:02,790 Mundanara Bayles: model. Starting with acknowledgement of country, seeing that there was 100 00:06:02,791 --> 00:06:04,470 Mundanara Bayles: a need and probably a big gap there in the 101 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:08,671 Mundanara Bayles: market as well, and then coming out with these sprays 102 00:06:08,671 --> 00:06:13,621 Mundanara Bayles: and candles and diffusers and soaps and moisturizers. Sis, has 103 00:06:13,621 --> 00:06:16,711 Mundanara Bayles: it been easy to be able to now sustain this 104 00:06:16,711 --> 00:06:21,451 Mundanara Bayles: new kind of, well not business model, but you've kind of 105 00:06:21,451 --> 00:06:23,970 Mundanara Bayles: taken another direction? 106 00:06:24,031 --> 00:06:25,832 Emma Bamblett: Yep, definitely. 107 00:06:25,832 --> 00:06:27,061 Mundanara Bayles: But you incorporate everything now under one brand. 108 00:06:27,061 --> 00:06:30,961 Emma Bamblett: Yeah, definitely. After lockdown we had a think and I 109 00:06:30,961 --> 00:06:34,650 Emma Bamblett: come up with these crazy ideas and yarned with Megan and say, " 110 00:06:34,651 --> 00:06:36,661 Emma Bamblett: Oh, what do you reckon we open up a shop, where 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,690 Emma Bamblett: it's a beautiful space, we can showcase our products, but 112 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:43,171 Emma Bamblett: also all the beautiful small businesses that came out of 113 00:06:43,201 --> 00:06:48,421 Emma Bamblett: Covid?" And our people are very clever at making beautiful weaving, 114 00:06:48,421 --> 00:06:54,511 Emma Bamblett: jewelry, scarves. We've got wood burners. Down to opening up 115 00:06:54,511 --> 00:06:57,090 Emma Bamblett: the shop to... we've got over 80 small businesses that 116 00:06:57,090 --> 00:07:00,631 Emma Bamblett: we showcase now within the shop. So that was a 117 00:07:01,141 --> 00:07:04,171 Emma Bamblett: kind of after- Covid moment, where we wanted to try 118 00:07:04,171 --> 00:07:06,121 Emma Bamblett: that. And also have a space where we could offer 119 00:07:06,121 --> 00:07:10,230 Emma Bamblett: workshops. So we're both artists, both different artists. Now we've 120 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:12,690 Emma Bamblett: got a space at the back where we can have 121 00:07:12,690 --> 00:07:13,500 Emma Bamblett: weavers come in. 122 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:14,521 Mundanara Bayles: Art workshops, weaving. 123 00:07:14,850 --> 00:07:15,841 Emma Bamblett: Yep, healing spaces. 124 00:07:15,841 --> 00:07:18,121 Mundanara Bayles: And this is open to the general public or who's 125 00:07:18,121 --> 00:07:22,291 Mundanara Bayles: your customers? Who comes in those doors? 126 00:07:22,561 --> 00:07:27,690 Emma Bamblett: So community always come in. We have ally friendly products 127 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:31,951 Emma Bamblett: there. Our workshops are targeted at mob only. For example, 128 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:35,101 Emma Bamblett: last night we had collaborated with VACCA, we do art 129 00:07:35,101 --> 00:07:38,310 Emma Bamblett: mentoring programs, so it ranges from 12 to 24. We'll 130 00:07:38,311 --> 00:07:40,681 Emma Bamblett: have different artists, who we showcase in the store, come 131 00:07:40,681 --> 00:07:44,161 Emma Bamblett: in every fortnight and talk about their small business and 132 00:07:44,161 --> 00:07:48,300 Emma Bamblett: also get the kids to have a hands- on experience, and later on hopefully 133 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:49,021 Emma Bamblett: they pick up the- 134 00:07:49,021 --> 00:07:51,961 Mundanara Bayles: Well, this is how do you plant those seeds now? And you're doing 135 00:07:51,961 --> 00:07:54,720 Mundanara Bayles: it? Too deadly, my (foreign language) . So how do people 136 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,380 Mundanara Bayles: find you? 137 00:07:55,710 --> 00:08:00,001 Emma Bamblett: So yeah, come and visit us. We're at 134 High 138 00:08:00,001 --> 00:08:03,301 Emma Bamblett: Street, Preston, that's the northern suburbs of Melbourne. We open 139 00:08:03,301 --> 00:08:07,561 Emma Bamblett: Wednesday to Sunday, 11 to 3: 00 PM, and then 140 00:08:07,591 --> 00:08:10,321 Emma Bamblett: we're also online. So majority of our stock are online, 141 00:08:10,321 --> 00:08:11,971 Emma Bamblett: but if not, you can just contact us through the 142 00:08:11,971 --> 00:08:15,271 Emma Bamblett: website and we can arrange to get products out to 143 00:08:15,271 --> 00:08:17,971 Emma Bamblett: you. We also have gotten in... so this is another 144 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:21,391 Emma Bamblett: kind of change in the environment... our hampers now. So 145 00:08:21,421 --> 00:08:24,451 Emma Bamblett: a lot of places are coming to us to make beautiful 146 00:08:24,451 --> 00:08:28,531 Emma Bamblett: custom hampers that we then showcase a lot of small 147 00:08:28,531 --> 00:08:30,061 Emma Bamblett: businesses within those hampers. 148 00:08:30,211 --> 00:08:34,141 Mundanara Bayles: Sis, like too deadly. Just to go over there and see 149 00:08:34,501 --> 00:08:37,201 Mundanara Bayles: this little table with a few little things and then to 150 00:08:37,201 --> 00:08:40,140 Mundanara Bayles: actually hear the backstory. I'm pretty sure a lot of 151 00:08:40,140 --> 00:08:44,041 Mundanara Bayles: the mob that are listening or watching will be... if 152 00:08:44,041 --> 00:08:46,590 Mundanara Bayles: you're in the area, drop in. I'll definitely drop by 153 00:08:46,591 --> 00:08:47,492 Mundanara Bayles: the shop next time I'm here. 154 00:08:47,492 --> 00:08:47,732 Emma Bamblett: Definitely. 155 00:08:48,241 --> 00:08:50,551 Mundanara Bayles: So thank you so much for jumping on the podcast 156 00:08:50,551 --> 00:08:53,100 Mundanara Bayles: and can't wait to come catch up with youse and 157 00:08:53,101 --> 00:08:55,891 Mundanara Bayles: hopefully do one of the workshops. So for mob only, 158 00:08:55,980 --> 00:08:59,850 Mundanara Bayles: what a deadly. And how deadly is it to actually go to an event 159 00:08:59,850 --> 00:09:04,170 Mundanara Bayles: where there's mob and if you get inspired you might 160 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:05,671 Mundanara Bayles: come out with your own little products? 161 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:06,451 Emma Bamblett: Yeah, definitely. 162 00:09:06,451 --> 00:09:08,310 Mundanara Bayles: All good. Well, enjoy the rest of the day here. And 163 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:09,990 Mundanara Bayles: thanks again for jumping on. 164 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:10,681 Emma Bamblett: Thanks. Thank you. 165 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:17,011 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. I'm so excited to introduce you to my listeners and also our viewers 166 00:09:17,011 --> 00:09:20,041 Mundanara Bayles: on YouTube. I've got Uncle Mick sitting on the couch 167 00:09:20,041 --> 00:09:22,171 Mundanara Bayles: here. I'm going to hand over to you, uncle, to 168 00:09:22,171 --> 00:09:26,221 Mundanara Bayles: introduce yourself. Tell our listeners who your mob is, a little bit about where 169 00:09:26,221 --> 00:09:30,121 Mundanara Bayles: you grew up and why you're here at this deadly 170 00:09:30,181 --> 00:09:33,060 Mundanara Bayles: Indigenous business marketplace at ANZ today? 171 00:09:33,991 --> 00:09:39,511 Uncle Mick: Well, I might start by saying, (foreign language) , which means hello to everyone in my 172 00:09:39,511 --> 00:09:45,391 Uncle Mick: language, the Daung Wurrung or Taungurung, one of the five language 173 00:09:45,391 --> 00:09:48,241 Uncle Mick: groups of the Kulin. This has been a long journey 174 00:09:48,241 --> 00:09:50,881 Uncle Mick: for me, this whole business, which started off as a 175 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:54,901 Uncle Mick: sole trader, or just, really, as a bit of a 176 00:09:54,901 --> 00:09:57,450 Uncle Mick: hobby to start off with. It started back in the 177 00:09:58,321 --> 00:10:02,761 Uncle Mick: 2006 Com Games. A little program within one of the 178 00:10:02,761 --> 00:10:06,720 Uncle Mick: departments of government now called the Koorie Business Network, they did 179 00:10:06,721 --> 00:10:10,440 Uncle Mick: a series of workshops for all us, sort of little 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,670 Uncle Mick: hobby want- to- be businesses, and just to help us 181 00:10:14,670 --> 00:10:19,531 Uncle Mick: with some basic business skills. And then at the end 182 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:22,351 Uncle Mick: of that I took off around Victoria to sell my 183 00:10:22,351 --> 00:10:27,031 Uncle Mick: wares and came home with five grand and that was 184 00:10:27,031 --> 00:10:27,601 Uncle Mick: the start of it. 185 00:10:27,661 --> 00:10:30,002 Mundanara Bayles: This is a sign of success and look where you are today. 186 00:10:30,002 --> 00:10:32,311 Uncle Mick: Yeah, yeah. So we're nearly 20 years later. 187 00:10:32,311 --> 00:10:32,671 Mundanara Bayles: 20 years later. 188 00:10:34,591 --> 00:10:35,491 Uncle Mick: And we've developed. 189 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:42,871 Mundanara Bayles: Like beautiful, actually really beautiful, great quality products, from coffee, 190 00:10:42,871 --> 00:10:46,621 Mundanara Bayles: tea. I literally could not wait to show people. And 191 00:10:46,621 --> 00:10:48,751 Mundanara Bayles: for people that are listening, you need to get over 192 00:10:48,751 --> 00:10:51,391 Mundanara Bayles: to the YouTube channel so you can actually see these 193 00:10:51,391 --> 00:10:54,902 Mundanara Bayles: beautiful pieces from Uncle Mick. What is the actual business called? 194 00:10:54,902 --> 00:10:59,250 Uncle Mick: Ngarga Warendj, which means Dancing Wombat, or as I like 195 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:02,310 Uncle Mick: to say, in today's world, twerking wombat. 196 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:04,530 Mundanara Bayles: Twerking wombat. And Uncle Mick, how do people find you? 197 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:09,870 Uncle Mick: We've got a website, we sell at all different kinds 198 00:11:09,871 --> 00:11:14,281 Uncle Mick: of retailers. In fact, we sell at the Koorie Heritage Trust 199 00:11:14,281 --> 00:11:18,210 Uncle Mick: in Sydney. We sell it at Welcome to Country, just 200 00:11:18,211 --> 00:11:21,781 Uncle Mick: a host of different retailers. Uluru, we sell it at Uluru. 201 00:11:22,351 --> 00:11:25,501 Mundanara Bayles: So you're everywhere. You're actually getting your stuff out all over 202 00:11:25,501 --> 00:11:25,592 Mundanara Bayles: the country? 203 00:11:25,592 --> 00:11:26,821 Uncle Mick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 204 00:11:27,001 --> 00:11:29,700 Mundanara Bayles: And now on this podcast, people are able to hear 205 00:11:29,701 --> 00:11:33,841 Mundanara Bayles: about other Black businesses, especially here in Victoria that might 206 00:11:33,841 --> 00:11:36,781 Mundanara Bayles: not be known outside of this state. So, Uncle Mick, I just 207 00:11:36,781 --> 00:11:36,902 Mundanara Bayles: want to say thank you. 208 00:11:36,902 --> 00:11:36,991 Uncle Mick: No worries. 209 00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:40,261 Mundanara Bayles: I know you're getting busy over there. You better get 210 00:11:40,261 --> 00:11:41,401 Mundanara Bayles: back to that store. 211 00:11:41,611 --> 00:11:41,702 Uncle Mick: No worries. 212 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:45,180 Mundanara Bayles: But to all our listeners and viewers, in the show notes, we'll make sure 213 00:11:45,180 --> 00:11:48,121 Mundanara Bayles: that the websites are there so you can go and actually support 214 00:11:48,121 --> 00:11:51,241 Mundanara Bayles: some of our local Black businesses, especially here in Victoria. 215 00:11:51,721 --> 00:11:52,590 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly, uncle. 216 00:11:52,711 --> 00:11:53,821 Uncle Mick: Happy NAIDOC Week, everyone. 217 00:11:54,151 --> 00:11:55,111 Mundanara Bayles: Keep up the good work. 218 00:11:55,801 --> 00:11:56,131 Uncle Mick: Cheers. 219 00:11:56,131 --> 00:12:00,960 Mundanara Bayles: Thank you. I've got another deadly Black sister on the 220 00:12:00,961 --> 00:12:05,311 Mundanara Bayles: couch to yarn with us about her deadly little store. 221 00:12:05,371 --> 00:12:08,281 Mundanara Bayles: My sister, why don't you introduce yourself and tell our 222 00:12:08,281 --> 00:12:12,121 Mundanara Bayles: listeners, and also our viewers on YouTube, your name, your mob, 223 00:12:12,181 --> 00:12:16,591 Mundanara Bayles: and what brought you here to ANZ's Indigenous Business Marketplace 224 00:12:16,951 --> 00:12:20,430 Mundanara Bayles: here in NAIDOC Week in beautiful Naarm? 225 00:12:21,451 --> 00:12:24,901 Sharon Brindley: Hello. How are you, sis? So my name's Sharon Brindley. So 226 00:12:24,901 --> 00:12:28,771 Sharon Brindley: I'm a Yamatji Noongar woman, and my company is Jala Jala Treats. 227 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:33,361 Sharon Brindley: So Jala Jala meaning very good in my Yamatji language. And 228 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:36,690 Sharon Brindley: the turtle, our totem, that's our family totem, the green 229 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:38,971 Sharon Brindley: sea turtle. I guess what brought me here is I've 230 00:12:39,031 --> 00:12:42,271 Sharon Brindley: worked with Simon on and off with ANZ for a number 231 00:12:42,271 --> 00:12:46,200 Sharon Brindley: of years now. This is our fifth year this year. And it's a 232 00:12:46,201 --> 00:12:48,541 Sharon Brindley: good way for me coming up from the Peninsula to 233 00:12:48,541 --> 00:12:52,830 Sharon Brindley: be able to be in the center of town, so 234 00:12:52,830 --> 00:12:56,340 Sharon Brindley: all the big, big businesses from around Melbourne can come 235 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:57,540 Sharon Brindley: in and support us. 236 00:12:57,541 --> 00:13:03,091 Mundanara Bayles: And it's such an amazing opportunity to showcase some of 237 00:13:03,781 --> 00:13:06,060 Mundanara Bayles: the smaller businesses that I've never heard of. But since 238 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:08,730 Mundanara Bayles: I've seen you, I've been watching you, I've been following 239 00:13:08,730 --> 00:13:11,761 Mundanara Bayles: your journey for a couple of years now. Jala Jala Treats 240 00:13:11,761 --> 00:13:15,360 Mundanara Bayles: has won a few awards and first you started off with chocolate? 241 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:16,080 Sharon Brindley: Yes. 242 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,011 Mundanara Bayles: And now I just went and bought some Wellbeing Tea. 243 00:13:20,011 --> 00:13:22,950 Mundanara Bayles: This is exactly what I need right now. And I can 244 00:13:22,951 --> 00:13:26,460 Mundanara Bayles: save my money that I spend at T2 and get 245 00:13:26,461 --> 00:13:28,560 Mundanara Bayles: online now and get my tea from you. 246 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,490 Sharon Brindley: You can indeed. 247 00:13:29,490 --> 00:13:30,541 Mundanara Bayles: So you've got a new customer. 248 00:13:30,690 --> 00:13:33,391 Sharon Brindley: Yes. Thank you. And we've also just started bringing out 249 00:13:34,020 --> 00:13:36,451 Sharon Brindley: our own little bush in that range as well. 250 00:13:36,541 --> 00:13:39,631 Mundanara Bayles: I see lemon myrtle a lot these days. Can you 251 00:13:39,631 --> 00:13:41,491 Mundanara Bayles: tell us some of the uses? 252 00:13:42,091 --> 00:13:45,810 Sharon Brindley: Lemon myrtle's great to go into tea, but it's great 253 00:13:45,810 --> 00:13:48,690 Sharon Brindley: for relaxation and calming. So I've got a few plants 254 00:13:48,690 --> 00:13:51,000 Sharon Brindley: growing, which are probably not the right country for it 255 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,221 Sharon Brindley: where I'm on Bunurong country at my house at least. 256 00:13:53,491 --> 00:13:56,190 Sharon Brindley: But I need to have those trees around me to 257 00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:57,751 Sharon Brindley: be able to just go out there and get a 258 00:13:57,751 --> 00:14:00,151 Sharon Brindley: leaf and put in a cuppa when I need to 259 00:14:00,151 --> 00:14:03,690 Sharon Brindley: just chill. So it's great for that. But it's also 260 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:08,430 Sharon Brindley: one that's great to sort of start with for non- 261 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:13,440 Sharon Brindley: Indigenous people to start the journey and then you start 262 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,171 Sharon Brindley: getting them onto the quandong, which is on my country. 263 00:14:16,381 --> 00:14:19,441 Sharon Brindley: So I'm looking at putting the quandong into my chocolate 264 00:14:19,891 --> 00:14:21,151 Sharon Brindley: sort of as we progress. 265 00:14:21,151 --> 00:14:23,341 Mundanara Bayles: And quandong is the native peach, basically? 266 00:14:23,341 --> 00:14:26,460 Sharon Brindley: Yes. So that's what my aunties or my mum grew 267 00:14:26,461 --> 00:14:28,201 Sharon Brindley: up on, so being able to go out and pick 268 00:14:28,231 --> 00:14:30,361 Sharon Brindley: them. And then I'm going to look even into the 269 00:14:30,361 --> 00:14:33,692 Sharon Brindley: bush tomatoes and starting to put that into product as well. 270 00:14:33,692 --> 00:14:34,861 Mundanara Bayles: Yeah. 'Cause then you got savory? 271 00:14:35,011 --> 00:14:35,012 Sharon Brindley: Yeah. 272 00:14:35,012 --> 00:14:35,912 Mundanara Bayles: Excellent. 273 00:14:36,181 --> 00:14:38,190 Sharon Brindley: And mixing with the chocolate. So maybe a bit of 274 00:14:38,190 --> 00:14:38,941 Sharon Brindley: bush tomato and chili. 275 00:14:38,941 --> 00:14:44,401 Mundanara Bayles: Ooh, I like the chili. So sis, how can people find you, is it as simple 276 00:14:44,401 --> 00:14:45,001 Mundanara Bayles: as getting onto Instagram or... ? 277 00:14:45,001 --> 00:14:49,831 Sharon Brindley: Yeah, so with socials it's just Jala Jala Treats. So look 278 00:14:49,831 --> 00:14:53,042 Sharon Brindley: us up for our website I'm on. What am I on? 279 00:14:53,042 --> 00:14:53,222 Mundanara Bayles: Everything. 280 00:14:53,311 --> 00:14:57,901 Sharon Brindley: I'm on Facebook. Yeah, I'm on everything. So Facebook, Instagram. Instagram 281 00:14:57,901 --> 00:15:01,170 Sharon Brindley: seems to be the one for the younger generation. But 282 00:15:01,171 --> 00:15:04,741 Sharon Brindley: get on there and support. And look, hey, I'm also 283 00:15:04,741 --> 00:15:06,691 Sharon Brindley: free if you want to reach out and just to 284 00:15:06,691 --> 00:15:09,061 Sharon Brindley: double check on a business. We all know each other 285 00:15:09,061 --> 00:15:12,150 Sharon Brindley: within this economy, and so just double check to make 286 00:15:12,151 --> 00:15:14,640 Sharon Brindley: sure that you're supporting the right business. And that way 287 00:15:14,641 --> 00:15:17,130 Sharon Brindley: we can thrive. In my lifetime, we need to be 288 00:15:17,131 --> 00:15:17,730 Sharon Brindley: higher than 2%. 289 00:15:18,421 --> 00:15:22,741 Mundanara Bayles: Yeah, I love it. So important that we're actually not 290 00:15:22,741 --> 00:15:25,891 Mundanara Bayles: just saying, " Hey, come and buy some tea." We're letting 291 00:15:25,891 --> 00:15:29,101 Mundanara Bayles: people know that most people that are actually financially benefiting 292 00:15:29,551 --> 00:15:32,850 Mundanara Bayles: are non- Aboriginal people. So let's try and change that 293 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:35,251 Mundanara Bayles: in our lifetime. Well, sis, I'll let you get back 294 00:15:35,251 --> 00:15:35,881 Mundanara Bayles: to your store. 295 00:15:36,001 --> 00:15:36,122 Sharon Brindley: Thank you. 296 00:15:36,122 --> 00:15:40,231 Mundanara Bayles: Happy NAIDOC Week and it's been an absolute pleasure to finally have 297 00:15:40,231 --> 00:15:41,911 Mundanara Bayles: a yarn with you here on the podcast. 298 00:15:41,911 --> 00:15:42,752 Sharon Brindley: Yeah, you too, sis. 299 00:15:42,752 --> 00:15:42,753 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. 300 00:15:42,753 --> 00:15:42,754 Sharon Brindley: Thank you. 301 00:15:42,754 --> 00:15:54,541 Mundanara Bayles: Thank you. I've got another amazing, deadly Black business owner here on the 302 00:15:54,541 --> 00:15:57,240 Mundanara Bayles: couch. I want to hand the mic over to you, 303 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,481 Mundanara Bayles: my sister, to introduce yourself. So can you please tell 304 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:03,931 Mundanara Bayles: our listeners just your name, your mob, and what brought you here 305 00:16:03,931 --> 00:16:08,550 Mundanara Bayles: to the ANZ Indigenous Business NAIDOC Marketplace? 306 00:16:08,761 --> 00:16:12,631 Chana: Thanks for having me. Chana, and the business name's Amorettam. 307 00:16:12,901 --> 00:16:20,221 Chana: So my journey started in 2021. But I was living 308 00:16:20,221 --> 00:16:23,041 Chana: up in New South Wales and I was working at a 309 00:16:23,041 --> 00:16:26,431 Chana: hospital and I started to see that there was a 310 00:16:26,431 --> 00:16:33,001 Chana: gap in products for women, particularly around plant- based skincare. 311 00:16:33,061 --> 00:16:35,791 Chana: And I found that I was buying lots of, and 312 00:16:35,791 --> 00:16:38,401 Chana: sourcing, and looking for those sorts of things to give 313 00:16:38,401 --> 00:16:41,671 Chana: to my family. So my mob all lived in Shepparton, 314 00:16:42,631 --> 00:16:45,810 Chana: my mob's the James family, so I'm a strong, proud 315 00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:50,641 Chana: Yorta Yorta woman. Amorettam was born out of a great significant 316 00:16:50,641 --> 00:16:54,961 Chana: loss of my mother a few years ago, and in 317 00:16:54,961 --> 00:16:59,221 Chana: 2021 of my son, Matthew. And I wanted to incorporate 318 00:16:59,221 --> 00:17:03,511 Chana: both their names in something. And what started out as 319 00:17:03,511 --> 00:17:06,780 Chana: a vehicle for my grief ended up being a real 320 00:17:06,781 --> 00:17:10,381 Chana: mission to honor my son and my mum in the 321 00:17:10,381 --> 00:17:13,471 Chana: best way I knew how. And that was to keep 322 00:17:13,471 --> 00:17:17,851 Chana: their memory alive through the development of plant- based skincare. 323 00:17:18,031 --> 00:17:19,351 Chana: So that's what I do. 324 00:17:19,921 --> 00:17:22,500 Mundanara Bayles: I love it. It's pure products for your skin, which 325 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:26,160 Mundanara Bayles: is better for the environment. All natural dyes. I've got 326 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,661 Mundanara Bayles: the Honey Lip Balm on my lips right now. I 327 00:17:30,661 --> 00:17:34,081 Mundanara Bayles: never talk... it's not that I don't talk about products and promote products, 328 00:17:34,081 --> 00:17:36,811 Mundanara Bayles: but I always feel like a bit of a fraud 329 00:17:37,381 --> 00:17:39,870 Mundanara Bayles: when you're talking something up but you've never touched it, 330 00:17:39,871 --> 00:17:42,690 Mundanara Bayles: never felt it, never seen it. So to actually go 331 00:17:42,690 --> 00:17:45,931 Mundanara Bayles: over to your store, put it on my lips and go, " 332 00:17:46,020 --> 00:17:48,841 Mundanara Bayles: That's something that I actually would buy. I need to 333 00:17:48,841 --> 00:17:53,431 Mundanara Bayles: take that home." I then tried the Quandong Cream and 334 00:17:53,431 --> 00:17:56,761 Mundanara Bayles: I was like, " Now I'm taking this one as well." 335 00:17:57,301 --> 00:18:00,300 Mundanara Bayles: So you've got creams, you've got lip balms. I saw 336 00:18:00,301 --> 00:18:05,521 Mundanara Bayles: there was a mist. Was there teas? Was there salts? Scrubs? 337 00:18:05,521 --> 00:18:10,231 Chana: Yeah. I actually hand blended tea that's on my website. 338 00:18:10,621 --> 00:18:13,021 Chana: And Floral Waters, I'm a great believer in those. So 339 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,131 Chana: they're really good, men and women can use them. My 340 00:18:17,131 --> 00:18:17,971 Chana: products aren't- 341 00:18:18,091 --> 00:18:18,092 Mundanara Bayles: Biased? 342 00:18:18,092 --> 00:18:21,541 Chana: ... gender- specific. Yeah, that's right. Men and women can 343 00:18:21,541 --> 00:18:24,931 Chana: use these products. In fact, my husband's the guinea pig 344 00:18:24,931 --> 00:18:26,550 Chana: at the moment, so he's using a- 345 00:18:26,551 --> 00:18:31,471 Mundanara Bayles: Of course love family. And they're the best in terms of honesty and giving 346 00:18:31,471 --> 00:18:32,191 Mundanara Bayles: us feedback. 347 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,451 Chana: Oh, absolutely. I've got a Quandong Cream my auntie's been using. 348 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,181 Chana: She swears by it. She loves it. 349 00:18:39,181 --> 00:18:40,381 Mundanara Bayles: So tell us about quandong. 350 00:18:40,951 --> 00:18:47,851 Chana: Oh, quandong's our native peach. Quandong, desert lime, wattleseed. We've got the beautiful Illawarra 351 00:18:47,881 --> 00:18:54,750 Chana: plum. We've got all of these native botanical plants and trees 352 00:18:54,750 --> 00:18:57,420 Chana: and seeds in Australia and we don't use them. And 353 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,471 Chana: I believe that in the coming 10 years, you're going to 354 00:19:01,471 --> 00:19:05,641 Chana: see a lot of people moving to plant- based skincare. 355 00:19:05,641 --> 00:19:08,131 Chana: They're going to be looking for it. Now, we've seen 356 00:19:08,131 --> 00:19:10,980 Chana: Kakadu plum, you can see that. 357 00:19:11,461 --> 00:19:11,641 Mundanara Bayles: It's everywhere. 358 00:19:11,641 --> 00:19:16,202 Chana: It's everywhere. And it's in everybody's skincare. They're all using it. 359 00:19:16,202 --> 00:19:21,330 Mundanara Bayles: But who's actually benefiting from the mass production and manufacture? Like manufacturing of skincares 360 00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:26,581 Mundanara Bayles: and the whole kind of native food scene with... I've 361 00:19:26,581 --> 00:19:30,810 Mundanara Bayles: seen lots of Kakadu plum powders. I've actually bought from 362 00:19:30,810 --> 00:19:35,671 Mundanara Bayles: Kaiyu Superfoods from Darwin and got some of my stuff. 363 00:19:35,671 --> 00:19:38,041 Mundanara Bayles: And I always look for ethical products. 364 00:19:38,101 --> 00:19:38,581 Chana: That's right. 365 00:19:38,581 --> 00:19:42,871 Mundanara Bayles: So it's amazing to actually meet you today. You actually 366 00:19:42,871 --> 00:19:48,600 Mundanara Bayles: see the owner who's creating these beautiful little gifts. What's 367 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,570 Mundanara Bayles: your favorite seller? What are people usually coming back for? 368 00:19:51,571 --> 00:19:52,830 Mundanara Bayles: Is it the Quandong Cream? 369 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,771 Chana: Yeah. Well, the creams set off just recently, at another 370 00:19:55,771 --> 00:19:59,730 Chana: NAIDOC market day the creams set off. I would have 371 00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:04,470 Chana: to say that it's the creams. It's their ability to 372 00:20:04,471 --> 00:20:08,280 Chana: do everything because we're sucked in to buying things. Oh, 373 00:20:08,281 --> 00:20:10,231 Chana: you need one cream for your eyes, you need one 374 00:20:10,231 --> 00:20:11,371 Chana: for your neck, you need another one for your decolletage. 375 00:20:11,371 --> 00:20:13,590 Mundanara Bayles: Oh, you need this for nighttime, daytime. 376 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:16,290 Chana: And you're rubbing on five or six- 377 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:20,371 Mundanara Bayles: That's hydrating. This is for dry skin. So you're telling me 378 00:20:20,371 --> 00:20:23,520 Mundanara Bayles: that that Quandong Cream that I just bought, which one 379 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,701 Mundanara Bayles: I've got this one here now, is for all skin 380 00:20:26,701 --> 00:20:28,800 Mundanara Bayles: types. Anyone can use it. 381 00:20:29,401 --> 00:20:30,181 Chana: Absolutely. 382 00:20:30,301 --> 00:20:31,501 Mundanara Bayles: And you don't need all of these other... 383 00:20:31,501 --> 00:20:33,991 Chana: You don't need them all. No, that's right. And let's 384 00:20:33,991 --> 00:20:34,561 Chana: just get back to- 385 00:20:34,561 --> 00:20:35,161 Mundanara Bayles: So save money, you mob. 386 00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:39,211 Chana: Yeah. And get back to basics. Get back to what 387 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:42,571 Chana: skincare should be. It should be cleaned and it should 388 00:20:42,571 --> 00:20:47,521 Chana: be pure. And you also consider the environment as well. 389 00:20:47,521 --> 00:20:51,211 Chana: And I don't know, I feel like there is a 390 00:20:51,211 --> 00:20:55,441 Chana: connection to our environment, what we eat, how we live, 391 00:20:55,770 --> 00:21:00,090 Chana: I think that's all connected to our spiritual, emotional wellbeing. 392 00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:00,091 Mundanara Bayles: Physical, psychological, everything. 393 00:21:00,091 --> 00:21:05,071 Chana: Physical being. That's right. And we don't use a lot 394 00:21:05,071 --> 00:21:09,631 Chana: of water. We don't use a lot of power to 395 00:21:09,631 --> 00:21:14,371 Chana: produce our things. They're hand- blended skincare. They're done by 396 00:21:14,401 --> 00:21:16,590 Chana: myself. And I'm a perfectionist, I've got a bit of 397 00:21:16,591 --> 00:21:19,981 Chana: OCD as well. I like things to be perfect. I 398 00:21:19,981 --> 00:21:22,981 Chana: think it's always been in my nature to do. But 399 00:21:22,981 --> 00:21:26,881 Chana: also to just be transparent. This is what you get. There's no- 400 00:21:27,331 --> 00:21:28,260 Mundanara Bayles: There's no nasties. 401 00:21:28,261 --> 00:21:32,671 Chana: There's no nasties in your products and you are going to 402 00:21:32,761 --> 00:21:36,270 Chana: get good results. And the beauty about these, about the 403 00:21:36,270 --> 00:21:40,951 Chana: heroes, the wattleseed, the quandong, the desert lime is they address things 404 00:21:40,951 --> 00:21:48,090 Chana: like hyperpigmentation, firming, brightening, lack of glow, dullness, all of 405 00:21:48,091 --> 00:21:52,770 Chana: those types of things that... and environmental damage as well. 406 00:21:53,971 --> 00:21:54,271 Mundanara Bayles: To our skin. 407 00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:54,721 Chana: To our skin. 408 00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:57,361 Mundanara Bayles: Well, how can people find you? Is it just as 409 00:21:57,361 --> 00:21:59,881 Mundanara Bayles: simple as getting on the Instagram or which way? 410 00:22:00,031 --> 00:22:04,831 Chana: Yeah, so Instagram is Amorettam Beauty. And I know that's a tongue twister, but... 411 00:22:04,831 --> 00:22:07,711 Mundanara Bayles: That's all right. We'll have the actual business name in the show 412 00:22:07,711 --> 00:22:09,481 Mundanara Bayles: notes. We'll make sure people can find you. 413 00:22:09,481 --> 00:22:11,010 Chana: Yeah. And Amorettam- 414 00:22:11,010 --> 00:22:11,341 Mundanara Bayles: Go to the website? 415 00:22:11,341 --> 00:22:11,912 Chana: Yeah, amorettam.com.au. 416 00:22:14,281 --> 00:22:16,860 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. Well, look, it's been an absolute pleasure to 417 00:22:16,891 --> 00:22:18,001 Mundanara Bayles: have this little yarn with you. 418 00:22:18,001 --> 00:22:18,842 Chana: Oh, thank you so much. 419 00:22:18,842 --> 00:22:24,541 Mundanara Bayles: First time for everything. And I really do encourage not just Black fellas 420 00:22:24,781 --> 00:22:29,490 Mundanara Bayles: to support Black businesses. This is skincare, every single one 421 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:32,461 Mundanara Bayles: of us, especially living in Australia with the temperatures, it's 422 00:22:32,461 --> 00:22:35,701 Mundanara Bayles: either too cold or too hot, somewhere in between when 423 00:22:35,701 --> 00:22:37,981 Mundanara Bayles: you're in Melbourne, four seasons in one day. 424 00:22:38,611 --> 00:22:39,301 Chana: Absolutely. 425 00:22:39,301 --> 00:22:42,961 Mundanara Bayles: Jump online and see if there's something for you. So 426 00:22:42,961 --> 00:22:44,040 Mundanara Bayles: thank you so much. 427 00:22:44,161 --> 00:22:45,451 Chana: Thanks so much for having me. 428 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:49,890 Mundanara Bayles: You're welcome. I've got the deadly Josh Deane here on 429 00:22:49,891 --> 00:22:52,921 Mundanara Bayles: the couch, and it's been an absolute pleasure to meet 430 00:22:52,921 --> 00:22:55,321 Mundanara Bayles: you. Even though it's short and sweet, I'm pretty sure 431 00:22:55,321 --> 00:22:58,800 Mundanara Bayles: we'll connect again. But for my listeners and also our viewers 432 00:22:58,801 --> 00:23:00,810 Mundanara Bayles: on YouTube, can you tell us a little bit about 433 00:23:00,810 --> 00:23:04,861 Mundanara Bayles: yourself and what brought you here to the ANZ NAIDOC Indigenous 434 00:23:04,861 --> 00:23:05,941 Mundanara Bayles: Business Marketplace? 435 00:23:07,321 --> 00:23:10,951 Josh Deane: So I'm Josh Deane. I'm a Palawa man. I grew up 436 00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:15,211 Josh Deane: on Kabi Kabi country, so on the sunny coast. And lived in Nambour, lived 437 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:19,921 Josh Deane: everywhere around there. But literally one of the best places 438 00:23:20,071 --> 00:23:25,230 Josh Deane: to grow up because I got to experience nature for free, 439 00:23:25,381 --> 00:23:29,941 Josh Deane: going to the beach and just really being able to 440 00:23:31,021 --> 00:23:35,070 Josh Deane: just learn to go with the vibes of life. Living 441 00:23:35,071 --> 00:23:35,881 Josh Deane: in Melbourne now. 442 00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:36,061 Mundanara Bayles: Surf life. 443 00:23:36,061 --> 00:23:36,931 Josh Deane: Yeah, exactly. 444 00:23:37,291 --> 00:23:41,971 Mundanara Bayles: The vibes. That's a cool place to live between mountains, the bush. 445 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,161 Josh Deane: It's beautiful there. Literally blessed. I pursued, I guess, more 446 00:23:47,161 --> 00:23:49,770 Josh Deane: of a fashion modeling kind of world. So I was 447 00:23:49,771 --> 00:23:52,021 Josh Deane: a hairdresser for a few years and that's what kind 448 00:23:52,021 --> 00:23:55,350 Josh Deane: of led me to move to Melbourne, just because I 449 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:57,360 Josh Deane: know Queensland don't want to admit it, but they're not 450 00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:00,330 Josh Deane: at the forefront of the fashion world as much as 451 00:24:00,901 --> 00:24:01,633 Josh Deane: the footy shorts and the (inaudible) - 452 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,350 Mundanara Bayles: So you went where you know that you'll have more opportunity. 453 00:24:05,761 --> 00:24:07,411 Josh Deane: Exactly, yeah. 454 00:24:07,891 --> 00:24:10,831 Mundanara Bayles: And more potential to make a break in what, in fashion? 455 00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:15,270 Josh Deane: In fashion, yeah. So I did modeling for about 10 456 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:19,531 Josh Deane: years and I was able to travel to Milan, Paris, 457 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:25,681 Josh Deane: did all the fashion festivals in Australia. Was one of the first ever guys in an all 458 00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:28,530 Josh Deane: women's show for David Jones as well, which was cool. 459 00:24:29,641 --> 00:24:32,070 Mundanara Bayles: Look at that. We got this deli brother here on the couch, that's been all 460 00:24:32,071 --> 00:24:37,440 Mundanara Bayles: around the world, doing runways. And then I've got this beautiful piece. 461 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,490 Josh Deane: Painting, yeah. So for me, my passion in life always 462 00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:45,901 Josh Deane: was art. Art was really my refuge. I grew up with 463 00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:50,940 Josh Deane: a pretty tumultuous home life. Dad was very hard to 464 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:54,210 Josh Deane: be around growing up, which kind of led me to 465 00:24:54,211 --> 00:24:57,060 Josh Deane: escape and paint in my bedroom and just kind of 466 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,211 Josh Deane: ignore what was going on. I was lucky in a 467 00:25:00,211 --> 00:25:02,431 Josh Deane: sense, my parents would let me paint all over my walls 468 00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:03,721 Josh Deane: and draw on my walls and stuff. 469 00:25:03,721 --> 00:25:04,891 Mundanara Bayles: Just do your thing. 470 00:25:04,891 --> 00:25:05,191 Josh Deane: Do my thing. 471 00:25:05,191 --> 00:25:05,192 Mundanara Bayles: Whatever makes you happy. 472 00:25:05,192 --> 00:25:11,520 Josh Deane: Exactly, yeah. So people always say, don't be an artist, you'll never 473 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,461 Josh Deane: make it, and blah, blah, blah. And I tried so many 474 00:25:14,461 --> 00:25:18,421 Josh Deane: jobs. I'm a qualified hairdresser, house painter, nurse. I tried 475 00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:21,901 Josh Deane: to do everything that everyone told me to do. 476 00:25:22,171 --> 00:25:22,382 Mundanara Bayles: Just keep bringing you back. 477 00:25:22,382 --> 00:25:27,151 Josh Deane: Yeah. So this piece here, it's a bigger piece, but 478 00:25:27,361 --> 00:25:30,150 Josh Deane: that won an award last year at the Koorie Heritage 479 00:25:30,151 --> 00:25:32,460 Josh Deane: Trust in their Koorie Art Show. 480 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:33,900 Mundanara Bayles: Congratulations. 481 00:25:33,931 --> 00:25:36,600 Josh Deane: Thank you. Yeah. Won the Reconciliation Award. But that piece, 482 00:25:36,601 --> 00:25:39,331 Josh Deane: it's a bigger piece and it's got my hand with 483 00:25:39,601 --> 00:25:43,111 Josh Deane: another budgie landing on it. Now what I kind of 484 00:25:43,111 --> 00:25:46,411 Josh Deane: really love about this piece and the symbology behind it, I'm a light- skinned 485 00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:51,030 Josh Deane: Indigenous person. Most of my mob, I'm Palawa, so after 486 00:25:51,031 --> 00:25:53,340 Josh Deane: all the genocides and traumas that we've been through as 487 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:56,641 Josh Deane: people, a lot of people kind of question us, " Are 488 00:25:56,641 --> 00:25:59,641 Josh Deane: you Indigenous?" For me, this budgie here, being a blue 489 00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:03,300 Josh Deane: budgie, now, it's a budgie, it's blue. No one's going 490 00:26:03,301 --> 00:26:06,301 Josh Deane: to question that, okay? In the wild they're all yellow 491 00:26:06,301 --> 00:26:09,031 Josh Deane: and green. So the only reason that the blue ones 492 00:26:09,031 --> 00:26:12,570 Josh Deane: exist is because of, in a sense, they've been colonized. 493 00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:14,641 Josh Deane: They've been created and bred to be blue and white. 494 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,431 Josh Deane: So for me, creating this art piece of a blue 495 00:26:17,431 --> 00:26:21,060 Josh Deane: and white budgie kind of spoke as a bigger metaphor 496 00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:23,431 Josh Deane: for me as I'm an Indigenous person. 497 00:26:23,821 --> 00:26:24,271 Mundanara Bayles: Wow. 498 00:26:24,271 --> 00:26:24,331 Josh Deane: Yeah. 499 00:26:24,961 --> 00:26:29,461 Mundanara Bayles: My brother, just hearing your interpretation and how you speak 500 00:26:29,461 --> 00:26:34,471 Mundanara Bayles: about your art, I can't wait to literally find you. 501 00:26:35,011 --> 00:26:37,260 Mundanara Bayles: I'm getting online. How do people find you? 502 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:43,441 Josh Deane: So you can find me on Instagram, @ joshdeaneofficial, or my website, byjoshdeane. com. 503 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,010 Mundanara Bayles: I can't wait to literally get home, get online, and I'm 504 00:26:47,011 --> 00:26:49,621 Mundanara Bayles: sure all you mob are already on there now trying 505 00:26:49,621 --> 00:26:53,641 Mundanara Bayles: to find out who this fella is. If you're... What, do you hang around 506 00:26:53,641 --> 00:26:54,901 Mundanara Bayles: Melbourne? How far are you from the CBD? 507 00:26:56,041 --> 00:26:59,131 Josh Deane: Yeah, so I'm off Chapel Street. I actually just finished 508 00:26:59,131 --> 00:27:02,280 Josh Deane: a mural yesterday on Chapel Street, a big NAIDOC mural. 509 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,331 Josh Deane: So big elder, giant Aboriginal flag with Waa, the crow, 510 00:27:06,331 --> 00:27:08,671 Josh Deane: flying through it. So that's on the corner of Grosvenor 511 00:27:08,671 --> 00:27:10,111 Josh Deane: and Chapel Street. If you want to check out some 512 00:27:10,111 --> 00:27:12,480 Josh Deane: of my art, it's there, grab a photo, give me 513 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,141 Josh Deane: a tag. 514 00:27:13,711 --> 00:27:18,420 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. So it's NAIDOC Week and we're celebrating Black 515 00:27:18,421 --> 00:27:23,281 Mundanara Bayles: businesses, supported by Supply Nation and Kinaway, here at ANZ 516 00:27:23,491 --> 00:27:26,851 Mundanara Bayles: Docklands, the headquarters. There's so much going on here. So 517 00:27:26,851 --> 00:27:29,431 Mundanara Bayles: my brother, I know people have been lining up and 518 00:27:29,431 --> 00:27:31,350 Mundanara Bayles: talking to you and I finally got five minutes with 519 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:33,600 Mundanara Bayles: you, so thank you for giving me an opportunity to 520 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,350 Mundanara Bayles: have a yarn with you. 521 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Josh Deane: Absolute pleasure. Thanks so much for having me. 522 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,451 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. 523 00:27:36,451 --> 00:27:37,621 Josh Deane: Cheers. Keep the fire burning. 524 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,761 Mundanara Bayles: I can't wait. Thank you. You're not going to believe 525 00:27:41,791 --> 00:27:45,391 Mundanara Bayles: who I just ran into. I've got the founder of 526 00:27:45,481 --> 00:27:49,770 Mundanara Bayles: Dreamtime Range, Sara Stuart, here on the couch with me. 527 00:27:50,671 --> 00:27:54,901 Mundanara Bayles: I always buy pajamas wherever I go. And I'm a 528 00:27:54,901 --> 00:27:59,520 Mundanara Bayles: sucker for Peter Alexander. But I'm telling you now, after 529 00:27:59,671 --> 00:28:04,141 Mundanara Bayles: feeling... I don't like buying online, I like feeling clothes, 530 00:28:04,231 --> 00:28:06,510 Mundanara Bayles: and then I kind of go... And also I love 531 00:28:06,541 --> 00:28:11,250 Mundanara Bayles: connecting with people and understanding people's story. So sis, before 532 00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:13,171 Mundanara Bayles: we go straight into it, and you're going to tell us a 533 00:28:13,321 --> 00:28:17,431 Mundanara Bayles: bit about your mob and where you grew up, I 534 00:28:17,431 --> 00:28:20,941 Mundanara Bayles: grabbed this to just show people some of the designs 535 00:28:20,941 --> 00:28:23,701 Mundanara Bayles: before they go onto your Insta. But I grabbed the 536 00:28:23,701 --> 00:28:27,901 Mundanara Bayles: blue pair and you said this represents women in business. 537 00:28:27,901 --> 00:28:28,052 Sara Stuart: Women in business. 538 00:28:28,052 --> 00:28:32,910 Mundanara Bayles: And so for people that don't know you and never heard 539 00:28:32,910 --> 00:28:35,701 Mundanara Bayles: of this business, sis, can you please tell our listeners 540 00:28:35,701 --> 00:28:38,550 Mundanara Bayles: and viewers on YouTube a little bit about yourself and how you 541 00:28:39,091 --> 00:28:40,740 Mundanara Bayles: came up with this amazing business? 542 00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:44,431 Sara Stuart: Yeah, sure. So I'm Sara Stuart. I'm a proud Gamilaroi 543 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,711 Sara Stuart: woman from Northern New South Wales. I'm a mum of 544 00:28:46,711 --> 00:28:50,461 Sara Stuart: four. I have been in business for over 20 years. 545 00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:55,951 Sara Stuart: And I was also sick of buying Peter Alexander pajamas for 546 00:28:55,981 --> 00:28:58,171 Sara Stuart: myself and all my children. Not that there's anything wrong 547 00:28:58,171 --> 00:28:58,441 Sara Stuart: with it. 548 00:28:58,441 --> 00:28:59,401 Mundanara Bayles: No, they're nice. 549 00:28:59,401 --> 00:28:59,402 Sara Stuart: They're lovely. 550 00:28:59,402 --> 00:29:02,640 Mundanara Bayles: But we could be supporting our own mob. 551 00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:07,411 Sara Stuart: Yeah, I wanted something ethically sourced, connecting to culture, sparking 552 00:29:07,411 --> 00:29:10,711 Sara Stuart: a conversation. But I also wanted something that I could 553 00:29:10,711 --> 00:29:13,081 Sara Stuart: put a blazer on, put a pair of heels on 554 00:29:13,081 --> 00:29:16,081 Sara Stuart: and go to work comfy every day. And so we 555 00:29:16,081 --> 00:29:19,951 Sara Stuart: designed Dreamtime Range around that. We work with up- and- 556 00:29:19,951 --> 00:29:23,310 Sara Stuart: coming Aboriginal artists from all over Australia to help use 557 00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:26,611 Sara Stuart: our platform and my platform to basically bring them into 558 00:29:26,611 --> 00:29:30,181 Sara Stuart: the corporate world. So we've launched on Monday, Dreamtime Range, together. 559 00:29:30,211 --> 00:29:31,621 Mundanara Bayles: Big congratulations. 560 00:29:31,621 --> 00:29:33,571 Sara Stuart: Very excited. It's a dream come true. 561 00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:34,561 Mundanara Bayles: It's not easy. 562 00:29:34,801 --> 00:29:38,491 Sara Stuart: Oh, my goodness. I have businesses obviously, and I thought, " 563 00:29:38,491 --> 00:29:41,760 Sara Stuart: How hard can this be?" I have run business for 564 00:29:41,761 --> 00:29:45,660 Sara Stuart: 20 years. I'm a mum. I can multitask like the 565 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:50,461 Sara Stuart: best of them. Oh, my goodness. Never in my life 566 00:29:50,461 --> 00:29:53,881 Sara Stuart: did I think that there was that much to a 567 00:29:53,881 --> 00:29:59,490 Sara Stuart: fashion line. Down to ethically sourcing, the eco- friendliness, your 568 00:29:59,491 --> 00:30:04,351 Sara Stuart: packaging, even down to where and how and who you're 569 00:30:04,351 --> 00:30:08,311 Sara Stuart: connecting with because that's your brand. So ours are ethically 570 00:30:08,821 --> 00:30:13,081 Sara Stuart: made in Sri Lanka, designed here in Naarm, the pattern, but 571 00:30:13,081 --> 00:30:17,791 Sara Stuart: also, as I said, this first pattern is by Sheri 572 00:30:17,791 --> 00:30:21,301 Sara Stuart: from Bigi Nagala. So look her up, I'm happy to send 573 00:30:21,301 --> 00:30:21,871 Sara Stuart: you the link. 574 00:30:21,871 --> 00:30:23,701 Mundanara Bayles: Definitely. We'll have it in the show notes. 575 00:30:23,761 --> 00:30:28,081 Sara Stuart: As you saw, blue, Women in Business, representing all of 576 00:30:28,081 --> 00:30:33,181 Sara Stuart: us amazing boss women. And showing the young people coming 577 00:30:33,181 --> 00:30:35,821 Sara Stuart: through and our daughters that, you know what? It doesn't 578 00:30:35,821 --> 00:30:37,651 Sara Stuart: matter what you want to do, if you want to 579 00:30:37,651 --> 00:30:40,501 Sara Stuart: do it, have a go. The pattern you've got over 580 00:30:40,501 --> 00:30:44,491 Sara Stuart: there, that represents, We Are One. So it represents that 581 00:30:44,521 --> 00:30:47,551 Sara Stuart: Mother Earth doesn't discriminate no matter where we come from 582 00:30:47,761 --> 00:30:50,911 Sara Stuart: and the color of our skin. And together we can 583 00:30:50,911 --> 00:30:56,371 Sara Stuart: unite and create a truly reconciled as one. So that's 584 00:30:56,371 --> 00:30:58,681 Sara Stuart: the hope, that we're not sitting here in 20 years 585 00:30:58,681 --> 00:31:01,921 Sara Stuart: having this same conversation that our daughters and our sons 586 00:31:01,981 --> 00:31:05,971 Sara Stuart: aren't sitting here having this same conversation. Let's get our 587 00:31:05,971 --> 00:31:09,751 Sara Stuart: culture out there. Let's get it in your face. Let's 588 00:31:09,751 --> 00:31:12,691 Sara Stuart: talk about it in a safe way and let's bring 589 00:31:12,781 --> 00:31:15,571 Sara Stuart: our culture and our history to your dreams. 590 00:31:15,871 --> 00:31:18,421 Mundanara Bayles: I love the fact that your goal is to create 591 00:31:18,421 --> 00:31:23,491 Mundanara Bayles: these chic and distinct fashion pieces that initiate discussions about 592 00:31:23,491 --> 00:31:28,471 Mundanara Bayles: culture. This is NAIDOC Week, this is an opportunity for all Australians to go 593 00:31:28,471 --> 00:31:34,441 Mundanara Bayles: and actually immerse yourself in community, amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. But 594 00:31:34,441 --> 00:31:39,181 Mundanara Bayles: actually kind of feel what we feel, that pride, when 595 00:31:39,181 --> 00:31:43,861 Mundanara Bayles: we talk about our culture, our country, our connections with each 596 00:31:43,861 --> 00:31:49,321 Mundanara Bayles: other. It's not just all dot paintings and didgeridoos, there's 597 00:31:49,321 --> 00:31:52,411 Mundanara Bayles: so much more to us that most people have missed 598 00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:57,781 Mundanara Bayles: out on. So grabbing yourself a beautiful piece of fashion, 599 00:31:57,781 --> 00:32:02,220 Mundanara Bayles: getting some pajamas, is also an opportunity to have these conversations. 600 00:32:02,251 --> 00:32:05,520 Sara Stuart: It is. And they're so important, these conversations. Not just for 601 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,970 Sara Stuart: now but for the future. So that next generation comes 602 00:32:08,971 --> 00:32:11,881 Sara Stuart: through can actually see that it doesn't matter what you 603 00:32:11,881 --> 00:32:14,641 Sara Stuart: want to be or where you come from or what 604 00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:16,381 Sara Stuart: life has served you up. I'm a ward of the 605 00:32:16,381 --> 00:32:19,140 Sara Stuart: state and I sit here now as a business owner, 606 00:32:19,861 --> 00:32:24,420 Sara Stuart: a mum, breaking the cycle one business at a time. 607 00:32:24,421 --> 00:32:27,960 Sara Stuart: But more importantly, showing my kids that you can stand 608 00:32:27,961 --> 00:32:33,121 Sara Stuart: up, be proud, wear your culture, talk about it. And 609 00:32:33,841 --> 00:32:38,100 Sara Stuart: it doesn't matter whether you get knocked down, just get 610 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,241 Sara Stuart: back up and keep going. 611 00:32:39,301 --> 00:32:43,051 Mundanara Bayles: And when you got strong, deadly Black women in our 612 00:32:43,051 --> 00:32:46,801 Mundanara Bayles: community, that's also holding us. Especially in the business community, 613 00:32:46,801 --> 00:32:47,732 Mundanara Bayles: there's not many Black women- 614 00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:47,733 Sara Stuart: No, there's not. 615 00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:51,571 Mundanara Bayles: ... that are front and center. There's some joint ventures, there's some 616 00:32:51,871 --> 00:32:55,741 Mundanara Bayles: family businesses, but there's not many just Black women front 617 00:32:55,741 --> 00:32:58,262 Mundanara Bayles: and center. So sis, we need to stay in touch. 618 00:32:58,262 --> 00:32:58,832 Sara Stuart: We do. 619 00:32:59,371 --> 00:33:01,500 Mundanara Bayles: We were meant to see each other again. And I 620 00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:05,941 Mundanara Bayles: cannot wait to get Tigerlily to model these and share 621 00:33:05,941 --> 00:33:10,891 Mundanara Bayles: on Instagram. So I'm telling you now, I'm definitely, definitely 622 00:33:12,151 --> 00:33:14,520 Mundanara Bayles: hooked. You've got to feel them, you've got to touch 623 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680 Mundanara Bayles: them. And if you don't get a chance to do 624 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,550 Mundanara Bayles: that, just trust me. 625 00:33:18,301 --> 00:33:22,141 Sara Stuart: They feel beautiful. We've got 100% silk lines, but we've 626 00:33:22,141 --> 00:33:28,081 Sara Stuart: also got 100% viscose. So they're not going to shrink. They're not going 627 00:33:28,081 --> 00:33:33,211 Sara Stuart: to feel that strawy feeling. They're beautiful. I wear them. 628 00:33:33,211 --> 00:33:35,910 Sara Stuart: I wear them to work. My kids wear them. My 629 00:33:35,911 --> 00:33:36,601 Sara Stuart: partner wears them. 630 00:33:36,601 --> 00:33:39,361 Mundanara Bayles: Right. Well, I think I need to get myself some pants. 631 00:33:39,361 --> 00:33:39,901 Sara Stuart: Yes. 632 00:33:39,961 --> 00:33:42,331 Mundanara Bayles: Watch this space everyone. So get onto... 633 00:33:42,331 --> 00:33:46,681 Sara Stuart: dreamtimerange. com. au. We're on Insta, we're on LinkedIn and 634 00:33:46,681 --> 00:33:47,941 Sara Stuart: get behind us and support us. 635 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,091 Mundanara Bayles: Too deadly. Well, happy NAIDOC Week and thanks so much for 636 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:53,100 Mundanara Bayles: coming here and giving me a couple of minutes of 637 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:53,520 Mundanara Bayles: your time. 638 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,571 Sara Stuart: Thanks. Happy NAIDOC Week. 639 00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:59,491 Mundanara Bayles: I literally just got back from Teena Oudy's store. It 640 00:33:59,491 --> 00:34:03,661 Mundanara Bayles: is unbelievable in terms of the chocolate. I've got to 641 00:34:04,261 --> 00:34:06,511 Mundanara Bayles: literally show you this, and I'm leaving my mic just 642 00:34:06,511 --> 00:34:09,181 Mundanara Bayles: so I can go grab the other block of chocolate, 643 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:13,111 Mundanara Bayles: if you're listening and not watching this on YouTube. I 644 00:34:13,111 --> 00:34:18,031 Mundanara Bayles: started off with The Brittle Life, and I'm not joking, 645 00:34:18,091 --> 00:34:21,751 Mundanara Bayles: I'm not really into crunchy peanut brittle, but I thought 646 00:34:21,751 --> 00:34:24,181 Mundanara Bayles: I would try it anyways. I always stick with just 647 00:34:24,181 --> 00:34:28,080 Mundanara Bayles: milk chocolate. So my sister, can I just say this 648 00:34:28,081 --> 00:34:29,401 Mundanara Bayles: chocolate is amazing. 649 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:30,000 Teena Oudy: Thank you. 650 00:34:30,361 --> 00:34:31,920 Mundanara Bayles: It's obviously your business. 651 00:34:31,981 --> 00:34:32,220 Teena Oudy: Yep. 652 00:34:32,401 --> 00:34:35,220 Mundanara Bayles: Can you share with my listeners and also viewers on 653 00:34:35,221 --> 00:34:39,870 Mundanara Bayles: YouTube a little bit about, well yourself first and then tell 654 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:41,461 Mundanara Bayles: me about this amazing business. 655 00:34:41,461 --> 00:34:42,630 Teena Oudy: Yeah, absolutely. 656 00:34:42,631 --> 00:34:44,911 Mundanara Bayles: And I'm going to eat the chocolate if you don't 657 00:34:44,911 --> 00:34:49,350 Mundanara Bayles: mind, and listen to you. So I'm about to open 658 00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:50,040 Mundanara Bayles: this one up. 659 00:34:50,401 --> 00:34:51,960 Teena Oudy: You can give me some feedback while we're chatting. 660 00:34:53,071 --> 00:34:53,791 Mundanara Bayles: That's easy. 661 00:34:53,881 --> 00:34:59,760 Teena Oudy: Yeah, absolutely. So about myself, I'm Kamilaroi, proud Kamilaroi woman. My grandmother 662 00:34:59,761 --> 00:35:03,660 Teena Oudy: was born in Wee Waa, Northern New South Wales. Recently 663 00:35:03,661 --> 00:35:09,211 Teena Oudy: only found my family history of the Indigenous side. We always 664 00:35:09,211 --> 00:35:10,921 Teena Oudy: knew it, but it was very hard to trace back. 665 00:35:11,341 --> 00:35:14,641 Teena Oudy: And then, I'm a pastry chef, chocolatier by trade. Went 666 00:35:14,641 --> 00:35:17,221 Teena Oudy: back to school when I was 45 and decided to 667 00:35:17,221 --> 00:35:21,390 Teena Oudy: become a pastry chef. So yeah, seven years later and 668 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:21,901 Teena Oudy: I'm loving it. 669 00:35:21,961 --> 00:35:26,070 Mundanara Bayles: And now from pastry to chocolate. Are you still doing pastry? 670 00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:27,270 Teena Oudy: Yes, on the side. 671 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:30,991 Mundanara Bayles: On the side. But tell us what made you go 672 00:35:30,991 --> 00:35:34,890 Mundanara Bayles: into chocolate. It is such a tough market. 673 00:35:34,921 --> 00:35:35,490 Teena Oudy: It is, absolutely. 674 00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:38,401 Mundanara Bayles: Everyone is doing chocolate. What would you say in terms of what 675 00:35:38,401 --> 00:35:39,541 Mundanara Bayles: makes your chocolate different? 676 00:35:39,931 --> 00:35:42,031 Teena Oudy: So there's a lot of craft chocolate makers out there. 677 00:35:42,421 --> 00:35:47,731 Teena Oudy: I'm different because I really enjoy that experimentational stage of 678 00:35:47,911 --> 00:35:51,120 Teena Oudy: making the products and really working out what flavors go 679 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,341 Teena Oudy: with each other. I think that's where my passion lies, 680 00:35:53,341 --> 00:35:56,251 Teena Oudy: and that's why I have so many skews. Yes, I 681 00:35:56,251 --> 00:35:58,591 Teena Oudy: need to cull a few, but you know... 682 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,391 Mundanara Bayles: What is your number one seller? 683 00:36:01,081 --> 00:36:03,510 Teena Oudy: So I have four different product ranges. So I have an 684 00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:06,661 Teena Oudy: OG range, a vegan range, my natives, and then I 685 00:36:06,661 --> 00:36:08,220 Teena Oudy: have a range that I call Here for a good 686 00:36:08,221 --> 00:36:11,100 Teena Oudy: time, not for a long time, which I chop and 687 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,590 Teena Oudy: change all the time. Every one, two months, I bring 688 00:36:13,591 --> 00:36:17,161 Teena Oudy: out a new bar strictly for a month only. And 689 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,571 Teena Oudy: so there's quite a few, Salty Feels, Biscoff Your Face. 690 00:36:22,141 --> 00:36:25,531 Teena Oudy: Wattle Seed Dreaming is a really popular one. My vegan bars 691 00:36:25,531 --> 00:36:29,791 Teena Oudy: are extremely popular. A lot of people are vegan, not 692 00:36:29,791 --> 00:36:32,731 Teena Oudy: just for food, but ethical reasons as well. So that's 693 00:36:33,571 --> 00:36:35,551 Teena Oudy: a big point of difference for my business. 694 00:36:35,881 --> 00:36:37,951 Mundanara Bayles: And you're here based in Melbourne? 695 00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:40,620 Teena Oudy: Yeah, absolutely. Moving from Preston to Coburg. 696 00:36:40,771 --> 00:36:44,611 Mundanara Bayles: Okay. And how do people normally find you? Where are 697 00:36:44,611 --> 00:36:46,111 Mundanara Bayles: your clients? How do you get customers? 698 00:36:46,141 --> 00:36:51,360 Teena Oudy: Yeah, absolutely. So more social media. So Instagram is my main go- 699 00:36:51,361 --> 00:36:54,091 Teena Oudy: to page. I'll be honest, I'm a bit slack with 700 00:36:54,091 --> 00:36:56,940 Teena Oudy: Facebook and the others. I'm getting there. Everything takes a 701 00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:00,241 Teena Oudy: lot of time and energy. So Instagram, number one. And 702 00:37:00,241 --> 00:37:03,901 Teena Oudy: then I decided once I started doing the business, I've got to put 703 00:37:03,901 --> 00:37:08,251 Teena Oudy: myself out there. So Supply Nation and Kinaway shows and 704 00:37:08,251 --> 00:37:12,630 Teena Oudy: local markets and fairs and trade shows. Yeah, I'm basically 705 00:37:12,631 --> 00:37:13,531 Teena Oudy: at every one of them now. 706 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:16,920 Mundanara Bayles: Excellent. And tell me just a little bit about in 707 00:37:16,921 --> 00:37:20,761 Mundanara Bayles: the business, have you got children, hubby, you got mum 708 00:37:20,761 --> 00:37:23,881 Mundanara Bayles: working? Is there anyone else that's supporting you or this is 709 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,470 Mundanara Bayles: just a one woman show? 710 00:37:25,501 --> 00:37:26,492 Teena Oudy: Well, it was a one... 711 00:37:26,492 --> 00:37:26,702 Mundanara Bayles: It starts off that way. 712 00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:30,060 Teena Oudy: It does start off that way. Unfortunately, I have really 713 00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:32,910 Teena Oudy: bad joints in my hands, so I have my kids 714 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:35,461 Teena Oudy: help me, adult children, which is great. My husband's very 715 00:37:35,461 --> 00:37:38,641 Teena Oudy: supportive and the kids. So yeah, if I need help, 716 00:37:38,641 --> 00:37:40,321 Teena Oudy: they're like, " Mum, what can we do?" 717 00:37:40,771 --> 00:37:43,260 Mundanara Bayles: Isn't it amazing though that we actually can bring our kids- 718 00:37:43,291 --> 00:37:43,771 Teena Oudy: Oh, I love it. 719 00:37:43,771 --> 00:37:49,651 Mundanara Bayles: ... into our business. I love seeing other women. Other women- 720 00:37:49,651 --> 00:37:49,921 Teena Oudy: It's very empowering. 721 00:37:49,921 --> 00:37:53,700 Mundanara Bayles: ... give business a crack and have a family and 722 00:37:53,701 --> 00:37:54,780 Mundanara Bayles: do both. Why not? 723 00:37:54,931 --> 00:37:57,961 Teena Oudy: Absolutely. We always had a business, in the clothing business 724 00:37:58,231 --> 00:38:00,991 Teena Oudy: 20 years ago. So wherever I went, my kids went 725 00:38:00,991 --> 00:38:03,001 Teena Oudy: with me. That was just what I had to do. 726 00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:05,491 Teena Oudy: If I went to work, my kids came too. So 727 00:38:05,491 --> 00:38:08,071 Teena Oudy: I think you just carry that through your life and 728 00:38:08,551 --> 00:38:10,921 Teena Oudy: go about your work and just do what you got 729 00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:13,171 Teena Oudy: to do basically. That's what I tell my kids. People say, " 730 00:38:13,171 --> 00:38:14,311 Teena Oudy: How do you do it?" I'm like, "I don't know. I 731 00:38:14,311 --> 00:38:15,751 Teena Oudy: just do it. I do it because I got to 732 00:38:15,751 --> 00:38:16,111 Teena Oudy: do it." 733 00:38:16,381 --> 00:38:20,971 Mundanara Bayles: When you wake up every day, usually with a passion and a 734 00:38:20,971 --> 00:38:24,600 Mundanara Bayles: purpose. And also that the impact that we're having, especially 735 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,991 Mundanara Bayles: on our families and communities. And we're leading the way 736 00:38:28,141 --> 00:38:31,531 Mundanara Bayles: as business owners, where a lot of other people might 737 00:38:31,531 --> 00:38:33,990 Mundanara Bayles: not have ever thought that they could go into business. 738 00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:34,680 Teena Oudy: Absolutely. 739 00:38:34,801 --> 00:38:37,500 Mundanara Bayles: So you've gone from, did you say clothing before? 740 00:38:37,501 --> 00:38:41,401 Teena Oudy: Clothing attire, to going back to school at 45, studying to be a 741 00:38:41,401 --> 00:38:44,250 Teena Oudy: pastry chef, chocolatier. Yeah, so I had a job as 742 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:49,471 Teena Oudy: chocolatier before Covid, and then unfortunately lost my job towards the 743 00:38:49,471 --> 00:38:51,120 Teena Oudy: end of Covid. Took about a year to get up 744 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,241 Teena Oudy: and running, find a kitchen, got registered, blah, blah, blah. 745 00:38:54,241 --> 00:38:55,200 Teena Oudy: And then, yeah. 746 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,312 Mundanara Bayles: And look, we're here on this couch. 747 00:38:56,312 --> 00:38:56,402 Teena Oudy: I wouldn't believe it. 748 00:38:58,051 --> 00:39:00,631 Mundanara Bayles: And you're on the Black Magic Woman podcast talking about 749 00:39:00,631 --> 00:39:05,611 Mundanara Bayles: this amazing chocolate. Literally, you've got to get on Instagram, 750 00:39:05,641 --> 00:39:08,611 Mundanara Bayles: find this chocolate, buy some. You will not regret it. 751 00:39:08,761 --> 00:39:09,271 Teena Oudy: Thank you. 752 00:39:09,421 --> 00:39:11,251 Mundanara Bayles: Well, thank you so much for making time to come 753 00:39:11,251 --> 00:39:11,552 Mundanara Bayles: over and say hello. 754 00:39:11,552 --> 00:39:12,451 Teena Oudy: Thank you. No, thank you. 755 00:39:13,471 --> 00:39:17,430 Mundanara Bayles: How deadly was that? Oh, my God. Literally when I 756 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:21,720 Mundanara Bayles: was yarning to sister, Emma Bamblett, and talking to her about 757 00:39:22,141 --> 00:39:26,761 Mundanara Bayles: having a shopfront, then having mob- only workshops come in 758 00:39:26,761 --> 00:39:31,081 Mundanara Bayles: and to learn about culture, to do weaving, to pass 759 00:39:31,081 --> 00:39:37,111 Mundanara Bayles: on very important cultural stories and knowledge. I just literally, 760 00:39:37,111 --> 00:39:39,840 Mundanara Bayles: just from having a yarn with her, to hear about 761 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,931 Mundanara Bayles: what they've been doing. Make sure you visit them if 762 00:39:42,931 --> 00:39:45,841 Mundanara Bayles: you're ever in Melbourne, get out to Preston. And those 763 00:39:45,841 --> 00:39:52,051 Mundanara Bayles: pajamas, OMG, Sara, with your beautiful pajamas. I'm now one 764 00:39:52,051 --> 00:39:55,321 Mundanara Bayles: of your biggest supporters, biggest fans, and you're only a 765 00:39:55,321 --> 00:39:57,240 Mundanara Bayles: couple of weeks in business. But I know, sis, you've 766 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,931 Mundanara Bayles: been doing this for a long time. And how incredible 767 00:40:00,931 --> 00:40:05,100 Mundanara Bayles: was auntie there? Chana, I absolutely loved her lip balm. 768 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,831 Mundanara Bayles: I've been wearing it ever since. And of course, how 769 00:40:07,831 --> 00:40:11,281 Mundanara Bayles: can I forget the Quandong Cream? So look, that's a wrap 770 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:17,251 Mundanara Bayles: up of the amazing Indigenous business marketplace here at ANZ to 771 00:40:17,251 --> 00:40:21,541 Mundanara Bayles: celebrate NAIDOC Week. Thank you so much for listening. I 772 00:40:21,541 --> 00:40:24,720 Mundanara Bayles: hope you've enjoyed this episode. Until next time, bye for now. 773 00:40:26,041 --> 00:40:28,860 Speaker 2: If you'd like to know more about how ANZ can help 774 00:40:28,861 --> 00:40:32,580 Speaker 2: improve your financial wellbeing or help you start, run, or 775 00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:38,491 Speaker 2: grow your business, visit anz. com or call 131314. 776 00:40:40,381 --> 00:40:43,320 Mundanara Bayles: A big shout- out to all you deadly mob and allies 777 00:40:43,321 --> 00:40:46,890 Mundanara Bayles: who continue to listen, watch and support our podcast. Your 778 00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:50,160 Mundanara Bayles: feedback means the world. You can rate and review the 779 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,281 Mundanara Bayles: podcast on Apple and Spotify, or even head to our 780 00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:56,401 Mundanara Bayles: socials and YouTube channel. And drop us a line, we'd 781 00:40:56,401 --> 00:40:59,760 Mundanara Bayles: love to hear from you. 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