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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is the Member

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Speaker 1: for Namajira and the Colpiece Opposition spokesperson for Health. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Bill Yan, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Bill?

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Speaker 1: Obviously, this situation within the territory hospitals at the moment

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Speaker 1: is a really serious one. We heard from doctor Robert

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Speaker 1: Parker yesterday. We spoke to him again this morning and

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Speaker 1: I asked, are we at crisis point? And he said, well,

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Speaker 1: when a Code yellow is declared, that is what it is.

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Speaker 1: You're in a situation of crisis.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Caddie. And I listened to Dr Parker yesterday

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Speaker 2: and of course Katatcher from Australian Nurse and Migraphy Federation,

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Speaker 2: and they've been calling for a Code Brown during the

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Speaker 2: weekend for government to realize the pressure that our health

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Speaker 2: system in a top end is under and the government

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Speaker 2: have not listened to the people who are on the around.

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Speaker 2: I've not listened to those people that are at the

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Speaker 2: cold face. And we see the code you low called yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which is probably days too late, and it shows that

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Speaker 2: we have a minister that's certainly out of touch with

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Speaker 2: the people on the ground from what they're saying and

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Speaker 2: what's quite interesting case we've seen yesterday that the Minister

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Speaker 2: was unaware of the letter sent out declaring the yellow

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Speaker 2: So again it shows that lack of communication and that

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Speaker 2: lack of understanding between Health and management and of course

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Speaker 2: their minister. It's just unbelievable. I just I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: Bill. Some were asking if the CLP had lost touch yesterday,

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Speaker 1: if they tuned into Parliament and saw, you know, a

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Speaker 1: question time focusing on this situation with a young Labor

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Speaker 1: member allegedly snorting something rather than focusing on the crisis

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Speaker 1: that is our health system.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lea came out during the lunch break yesterday and

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Speaker 2: held a press conference and health was the primary focus

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Speaker 2: of that health conference, and sadly that wasn't reported upon.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday afternoon also had emotion before Parliament about hospitals, specifically

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Speaker 2: Otle Springs, but talking about health right across the territory,

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Speaker 2: and Labor changed that motion and didn't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about the real issues facing hospitals in the territory. And

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Speaker 2: the Minister was actually quite glib in the way that

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Speaker 2: she spoke about how our Springs just wanted something shiny

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Speaker 2: and new and used the opportunity when we were talking

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Speaker 2: about serious matters of health to make political jobs against

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Speaker 2: the opposition. I found that really really disappointing, Katie. We

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Speaker 2: were there yesterday to talk about serious matters relating to health.

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Speaker 2: We were talking specifically about our springs, but our health

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Speaker 2: system overall, and the government just did not want to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. They just wanted to get there and

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Speaker 2: pat themselves on the back and say how great things

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Speaker 2: are going and how well they doing. And yesterday's Code

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Speaker 2: yellow in the midst of that fate shows how barely

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Speaker 2: out of touch this Gunner government is with the health

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Speaker 2: system here in the territory.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you know, I agree that the focus needs

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Speaker 1: to be on health right now. There is no doubt

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Speaker 1: about that. When you've got both the AMA and the

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Speaker 1: Nurses Federation yesterday essentially on the show saying that we

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Speaker 1: need federal assistance here and the possibility of calling in

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Speaker 1: the ADF to support staff at the hospital, or calling

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Speaker 1: in the National Critical Care and Trauma Response Center. And look,

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Speaker 1: that was why I thought it was a side step,

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Speaker 1: or a real misstep, I should say, from the CLP

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Speaker 1: focusing on the alleged cocaine use bart I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get stuck in that political fight right now. What

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Speaker 1: I do want to know is what the CLP thinks

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Speaker 1: needs to happen here. Do we need to be bringing in,

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Speaker 1: you know, the feeds. Do we need to be calling

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Speaker 1: in the ADF to try and help out our health system.

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Speaker 2: Anything that this Gunner government can do to make sure

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Speaker 2: that health services are being provided to territories they need

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Speaker 2: to do. They need to put their prior aside. They

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Speaker 2: need to step aside from that. We said it just recently.

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Speaker 3: When communities were calling for assistants from the federal government

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Speaker 3: during the food shortage and the transport crisis we've just seen,

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Speaker 3: this government decided, no, we didn't need any federal assistants

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Speaker 3: and called those communities mischievous for.

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Speaker 2: Calling for help. And here we are now in a

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Speaker 2: health crisis where we have the AMA and the Nursing

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Speaker 2: and Mibity Federation calling for federal assistants. The government government

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Speaker 2: needs to put its pride a side. It needs to

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Speaker 2: listen to those people on the ground, listen to those

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Speaker 2: representing bodies and if we need assistance from the commonwealth,

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Speaker 2: stand up, put your pride aside and ask for that.

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Speaker 2: Decistians to make sure that every territory in gets the

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Speaker 2: health services that they need, and that every territory is

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Speaker 2: kept as safe as can be possibly done during this

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Speaker 2: current health crisis, because it's not going to go away.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was our darkest day in COVID, said that we've

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Speaker 2: seen poor this and high numbers of infections. The government

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Speaker 2: hasn't come out and spoken to anyone. We haven't seen

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Speaker 2: the chow in thirteen days. They haven't held a press

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Speaker 2: conference in ten days. It's like they've gone to ground.

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Speaker 2: It's like they're hiding for territories and they don't want

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Speaker 2: to let people what's go let people know what's going on,

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Speaker 2: because I think they're probably afraid of the backlash they're

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Speaker 2: going to see from the general public.

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Speaker 1: Bill. Are you concerned about how we're going to sort

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Speaker 1: of bounce back? And I asked a similar question of

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Speaker 1: doctor Robert Parker a little bit earlier this morning, who's

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Speaker 1: obviously on the ground in the hospital, But are you

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Speaker 1: concerned about how we're going to bounce back, get elected surgeries,

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Speaker 1: get those specialist outpatient services back underway post COVID.

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Speaker 2: I certainly am, but we were struggling during the early

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Speaker 2: parts of COVID to maintain those elective surgery schedules. Now

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Speaker 2: we've had we're now five Code yellows in twelve months,

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Speaker 2: and every time we see a Code yellow, we see

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Speaker 2: those elected surgeries backed up. So we've been backing those

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Speaker 2: surgeries up now for for twelve months. We're going to

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Speaker 2: need some significant assistance to make sure that we can

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Speaker 2: get on top of those elected surgeries and get those

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Speaker 2: people help that they desperately need. I've only heard this morning,

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Speaker 2: Katie a person, a man whose wife is looking to

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Speaker 2: go into childbirth and he's been denied access to the

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Speaker 2: hospital to be there for the birth of their child.

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Speaker 2: So that shows how dire the system is in the

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Speaker 2: issues that we face, but also goes to show some

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Speaker 2: of the lack of common sense directions being put in

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Speaker 2: place by bureaucrats as far as access to our hospitals go.

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Speaker 1: Makes it hard.

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Speaker 2: We're going to we're going to need some help to

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Speaker 2: get ourselves out of this whole KD and this government

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Speaker 2: is going to have to pull out all the stops

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Speaker 2: to make sure that they provide our health services with

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Speaker 2: your systems they need to be able to get through

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Speaker 2: this current crisis.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill Yan, the opposition spokesperson for health. Will see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow for the week that was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, looking forward to Katie. Get my steps up before

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Speaker 2: I get in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better. We're winning at the moment. The hot

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Speaker 1: steppers are good. On your bill yep. We will talk

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Speaker 1: to you tomorrow morning. Thank you very much for your.

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Speaker 2: Time, look forward to Katie. Cheers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.