1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Last week during the news we reported on the assault 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: of a hospitality worker out the front of the Maybury 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: after removing a patron from the nightclub. The woman was 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: hit with a bottle and then kicked while she was 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: on the ground. Now that footage has emerged of what 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: is truly a sickening assault, Now joining us on the 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: line is the head of hospitality here in the Northern Territory, 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Kathy Simmons. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Get a Kathy Morning, Katie. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Kathy. Firstly, how is this employee from the Maybury? 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean, she's not okay? You know, no one should 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: be facing violence at work and a particularly shocking incident 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: like this. You know, No, she's not okay, and the 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: entire hospitality community is not okay about this. For too long, 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: there's been a bit of a social free pass given 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: to people who you who's alcohol or drugs as an 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: excuse for criminal behavior, and there's been a kind of 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: a risk accepted that if someone who's going out at night, 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: or if they're working at night, they might get hurt. 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: And that has to stop. 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Kathy. I've got to tell you when I like obviously 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Kathleen and I report on different bits of news, but 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: when I saw that CCTV CCTV vision, I felt crook 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: in the guts, Like it was absolutely sickening to see, 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: you know, to describe it for our listeners if they 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: have not seen it, I like, this poor employee is 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: obviously asking someone to leave. There's a bit of a 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: scuffle in the background. She then essentially gets glassed allegedly. 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: She appears to me to be unconscious on the ground. 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Then he comes back with what appears to be head yeah, 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: and has a tomahawk it looks like in his hand. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's right. So he's carrying a weapon. 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: He's thrown a glass, used the glass as a weapon, 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: you know, used his He's ticked there. Like this has 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: been like the word shocking keeps coming to mind because 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm just speechless about the level of violence that, you know, 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: I just want to say, like what happened at Maybury 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: was particularly shocking in its level of violence and of 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: course the consequences for the staff member who was attacked. 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: But like the fact that there was aggression towards a 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: hospitality worker is no longer regarded as shocking in itself. 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: It's not unique. Hospitality workers face physical and verbal aggression 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: all too often. This is just a high profile incident 44 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: that this, you know, it happens far too often. You know. 45 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: I also want to say that you know, she's she 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: was doing her job. That person was not in Maybury. 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: They were telling him you can't enter. So what has 48 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: happened here is a grown adult was told no to 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: something that he wanted, and in the course of conducting 50 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: her job, a staff member has been like, it's just 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: it can't keep happening, Like she's a grown adult and 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: he couldn't be told no about something like this is 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: not you know, this isn't about alcohol. I don't know 54 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: if he was drunk. I don't know if drugs were involved. Like, 55 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: this isn't about alcohol. It's not about drugs. It's about 56 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: a kick here who made a bad choice. 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about behavior, right, Like it's really, really 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: that's bad behavior. I would go so far as to 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: say it's an absolute dogs act, you know, to be 60 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: to be glassing a woman and then kicking her while 61 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: she's on the ground, it was horrific. There is no 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: other way to put it. I mean, Kathy like in 63 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: terms of the injuries that she's sustained, and she liked 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion watching that vision, and I'm no medical expert, 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: but she looks lucky, like lucky that she's not seriously 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: seriously injured. 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand from comments you know, Russell 68 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: Temple made that you know, she had ten or twelve stitches, 69 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: and you know she's she's recovery and I don't want 70 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: to speak for her, you know, and I don't want 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: to breach her privacy in any way as well, but 72 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: like you know, she's not going to come out of 73 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: this going like, oh yeah, I've got four hundred percent 74 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: confidence that I can go to work and be safe 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: at work. And every and again, like every self member 76 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: in Mitchell Street and beyond is now thinking to themselves, 77 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: am I going to end up in hospital at the 78 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: end of the night. And this is not we can't 79 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: have that, Like we can't. It's it's not acceptable for 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: anyone to face that at work, similar to how healthcare 81 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 2: workers as well, you know, parent medics face unprecedential levels 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: of violence and aggression from the people they're trying to help. 83 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: For in our case that people were trying to serve. 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes people were just a little entitled and they need 85 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: to be told no and you know, if someone is 86 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: facing that entry to a venue and they're being told no, 87 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: and they won't pull their heads in, and maybe their 88 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: mates need to be telling them pull your head in. 89 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: Tell me, was that the only assault on the weekend, 90 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Because I had been told that there was another female 91 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: hospitality worker that was also seriously injured on the weekend. 92 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that is the case. 93 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: My understanding is that there was another incident earlier in 94 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: the week and it was a female hospitality worker, but 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: she was off the clock, so she was going from 96 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: one venue to another venue, having a nice night out 97 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: as a customer, as a pat. As all territorians, you know, 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: you should be entitled to do exactly another night ruined 99 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: by someone who can't control themselves. 100 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. Tell me. I mean, we've had female hospitality 101 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: workers and male hospitality workers get in contact with us 102 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: and say that they feel that there is an increase 103 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: in aggression towards them, also an increase in people being armed. 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: From what you are being told by members, is that 105 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: the case. 106 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we don't have exact stats on this, but 107 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: you know, from conversations we've had with police, you know, 108 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: and you'll have seen it's been reported the crime stats 109 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: are decreasing, they're hitting in the right direction. But what 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: is of concern is that the level of violence and 111 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: the severity of harm and the use of weapons, that's 112 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: what's increasing. And you know, obviously we've seen some completely unprovoked, 113 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: senseless violence in the last few weeks, and these have 114 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: been particularly high pro file. But you know, we kind 115 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: of need to remember that it's a it's broader than 116 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: just like one incident or two incidents. 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, No, I agree with you. Hey, I understand 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: that there is a go fund me page which has 119 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: been set up for as I understand it, two women 120 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: that were assaulted. I'm assuming it's a two that we've 121 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: just spoken about it, and also to enable female workers 122 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: to access pepper spray. I mean, there's a bit of 123 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: discussion at the moment about pepper spray. I mean, the 124 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: fact is, like, you know, you shouldn't have to arm 125 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: yourself with it. 126 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: No, were exactly right, that's right. You know, so Faith 127 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Song with amazing DJ her initiative to support her friends 128 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: and you know, the whole sector here, Like that's fantastic. 129 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic, But like, you know, staff should 130 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: not have to arm themselves to go to work to 131 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: be safe at work. It will just lead to serve 132 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: the escalations like this is not what we want to see. 133 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: We want to see fuel web in venues, not more 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: like you know this, as you said, this is not 135 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: about pepper spray. This is not about staff having to 136 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: arm themselves to feel safe. This guy had already allegedly 137 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: assaulted other people earlier in the night. He had a weapon, allegedly, 138 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: but that was on CCTV. You know, filence is not 139 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: and should never be considered part of the job for 140 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: hospitality workers, right like this guy was being refused to 141 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: entry to a venue. They were doing the right scene 142 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: by their responsible service of alcohol, their licensed responsibilities, their obligations, 143 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: and as one of their stuff members end up in 144 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: hospital for it like this is not about pepper spray 145 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: to an extent, like this isn't about private security or 146 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: police either, right like police would have done more if 147 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: they could, would have been there if they could. But 148 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: with several longer term emergencies occurring asplose to a thousand 149 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: people evacuated into Darwin like resources are really stretched, right 150 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: and you wouldn't need to call on the cops if 151 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: this guy had chosen not to be a dickhead that night. 152 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: The main that is the main message I think is 153 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: that we need like less of this spot. It's not 154 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: about blaming the police. It's not about blaming alcohol, it's 155 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: not about blaming cops. It's about you pulling your head 156 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: in when you need to. 157 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Make good choices, you know, make better choices. Making the 158 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: choice to assault a woman in her workplace is not 159 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: the right one to make. It's so far from it. 160 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: It makes me really angry. Yeah. 161 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like we've seen a renewed focus on domestic violence 162 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: and you know, reducing violence in the home, but guess 163 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: like violence on the street is also not acceptable. Violence 164 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: is never acceptable. 165 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: So just stop, Kathy Simmons, We're gonna have to leave 166 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: it there. I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: you so much for speaking with us. 168 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you