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Speaker 1: Now we know it's been a big year for corrections,

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Speaker 1: quite a big year for corrections. The Deputy Commissioner for

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Speaker 1: Custodial Operations Kim McKay, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Now, tell me before we get into an update on

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Speaker 1: prisoners being involved in the cyclone cleanup?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, you know we're actively engaged in that space

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Speaker 4: and I think one of the things that you'll list

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Speaker 4: those twenty four to seven services that you know, our

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Speaker 4: staff are committed to maintaining community safety, you know, rain,

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Speaker 4: hail or shine. But after the cyclone, you know, our

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Speaker 4: and say, look, I really need some extra help right now,

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Speaker 4: and as we can, we're sending out teams to help

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Speaker 1: That's an excellent thing to do, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yourself maybe into a you know, into a situation where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is really important.

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Speaker 4: really important. But the other piece is the work the

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Speaker 3: Hey, can you touch on this a moment ago.

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Speaker 1: Obviously all of your staff, all the prisoners hunkered down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all of our infrastructure held up and it was

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Speaker 1: Hey, in terms of you know, of our correctional facilities,

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Speaker 1: So talk us through those numbers in the watch houses.

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Speaker 2: Christmas New Year's period and we're ready for that.

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Speaker 4: We've got two hundred beds empty ready to go. We've

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Speaker 1: So how big the difference does that make, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've been recruiting heavily in our rehab and reintegration space.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as a deputy commissioner, are you are you

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Speaker 1: Now, in terms of the additional G four S officers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so our plan around you know, embedding some support

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Speaker 4: that and we'll grow that out with a goal to

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Speaker 4: be actually supporting hospital escorre as well.

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Speaker 2: At some stage it.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it's going to be another busy year for

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Speaker 1: you guys, but it's been a massive year, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to say, four corrections in the Northern Territory with those

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Speaker 1: prisoner numbers really going right up and having to do

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to accommodate those additional prisoners. Deputy

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Speaker 1: Commissioner four Custodial Operations, Kim McKay, it's always good to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie.

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Speaker 4: We're really proud of the work that our staff do

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Speaker 4: and thank you for your support through the year.

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Speaker 3: Thank you