Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say
Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and
Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have
Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers
Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.
Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, Welcome back to another
Speaker 1: episode of Outspoken. Now, usually we like to start the
Speaker 1: show with something light, but we do want to dedicate
Speaker 1: this episode to our good friend has Lee. So sadly,
Speaker 1: has Lee passed away on Sunday of COVID nineteen and
Speaker 1: we met has Lee when we were fifteen. I think
Speaker 1: it was when we were holidaying in Penang. He was
Speaker 1: a lifeguarded at resort and we became really good friends
Speaker 1: with him over the past seventeen years. And it's just
Speaker 1: absolutely tragic news because he was hooked up to a
Speaker 1: ventilator and obviously they have to make the tough decisions
Speaker 1: of who gets that ventilator, and sadly that was someone
Speaker 1: else there that needed it. Yeah, it is very sadden.
Speaker 1: It just shows you how important it is to go
Speaker 1: out and get vaccinated because unfortunately these are the tough
Speaker 1: decisions that doctors are having to make every day around
Speaker 1: the world. And Haslee he did have his first vaccination.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he hadn't got his second vaccination yet. So anybody
Speaker 1: that's listening, Haslee was young, he had a lot of
Speaker 1: life to live, and it's just so important to go
Speaker 1: and get vaccinated. And I think we just want to
Speaker 1: end on a high note. Haslee was just the most
Speaker 1: beautiful person. His nickname was Nemo because he was small,
Speaker 1: and he was also a lifeguard, so love swimming. And
Speaker 1: I think what really sums him up was when we
Speaker 1: I think we were twenty two at the time, and
Speaker 1: he asked our mum and dad's permission if he could
Speaker 1: take us to his village and he said, Mama and Papa,
Speaker 1: I said, okay, if I take the girls. And he
Speaker 1: was just the most lovely person. And we're really going
Speaker 1: to miss him, and our thoughts are with his family
Speaker 1: at this really difficult time. Chloe Zepp has confirmed she
Speaker 1: and baby daddy Mitch all no longer sleep together in
Speaker 1: the same bedroom. During a house too on Instagram, Chloe
Speaker 1: shared vision of Mitch and her separate bedrooms. Now og
Speaker 1: listeners will know that Mitch has previously been banished to
Speaker 1: sleep in the couple's movie room before, but now it
Speaker 1: seems like this is a more permanent situation. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: some listeners may remember when we discuss Chloe and Mitch's
Speaker 1: relationship update vlog back in July that Mitch shared he
Speaker 1: was sleeping in the movie room. Now, there have been
Speaker 1: some bloody classic comments about this movie room along the way.
Speaker 1: So there were also previous discussions that Chloe sleeps with Artie,
Speaker 1: so Mitch had been sleeping in another room to get
Speaker 1: some sleep. However, as you mentioned Sophie on Sunday's Insta story,
Speaker 1: it was quite obvious that this was now a permanent
Speaker 1: arrangement because to me, it seemed like it was a
Speaker 1: little boy's room, Like he had his shoes set up
Speaker 1: on a special stand and all his things in his room,
Speaker 1: and then she had all her I don't know, meditation
Speaker 1: equipment in her room, equipment, I don't know, crystals and whatnot,
Speaker 1: moon water. So yeah, it just seemed like they're living
Speaker 1: very separate lives in different rooms. Does any what do
Speaker 1: you think that this is actually a good idea to
Speaker 1: sleep in a separate room to your partner because I've
Speaker 1: got to say, my boyfriend Dale is six foot four
Speaker 1: and we've got a queen sized bed, but there's not
Speaker 1: heaps and heaps of room. And I must say some nights,
Speaker 1: if there was a queen size bed, I'd be tempted
Speaker 1: to go in there just to stretch out. Well, that's
Speaker 1: like Brandon. He will sleep with his knee up in
Speaker 1: the air, which steals all of the blanket. He was
Speaker 1: also loudly snoring in my face last night, which I
Speaker 1: haven't actually told her about because he's not regularly asnorous.
Speaker 1: So I could see how this sort of situation could work.
Speaker 1: I do think if there was an obvious reason that
Speaker 1: was preventing you from getting some sleep, it may be
Speaker 1: a good idea to have a spare room so on
Speaker 1: that odd occasion you could go in there. However, as
Speaker 1: we said, this seems like a pretty permanent situation and
Speaker 1: something that they're sticking with, and it seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of Chloe's followers thought it was strange because she
Speaker 1: ended up having to post a follow up and she wrote,
Speaker 1: we sleep in separate rooms because we are around each
Speaker 1: other at twenty four seven and I like to sleep early,
Speaker 1: and he likes to stay up late on crypto and
Speaker 1: watching YouTube. Plus it's good to have some space from
Speaker 1: each other when you both work from home. I don't
Speaker 1: think there needs to be a certain way relationships have
Speaker 1: to be. Everyone is different. It works the best for us.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It cracks me up because I am the Mitchell in
Speaker 1: my relationship and Dale is the Chloe going to bed early.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing crypto late at night, but I do
Speaker 1: like to stay up and watch a bit of Money heist,
Speaker 1: Bit of Love Ireland. I think she does raise a
Speaker 1: good point, though, about the fact that they do work together. Generally,
Speaker 1: most couples get out of the house from one another
Speaker 1: and excited to see each other when they return home,
Speaker 1: so I can kind of understand this situation a bit more.
Speaker 1: I suppose the reason there is speculation around it is
Speaker 1: because they have been quite open with their relationship struggles.
Speaker 1: So that's why I assume people are thinking there's more
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, do you find it a bit weird
Speaker 1: that Chloe didn't really acknowledge their relationship issues when she
Speaker 1: did get this question thrown at her though, because that's
Speaker 1: clearly what people are wondering about. Yeah, Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think it really seems like any relationships going game busters
Speaker 1: if you're not showing the same room. Like, let's be honest, like,
Speaker 1: how are you Marrio typical? Kate? No, but how are
Speaker 1: you meant to connect as a couple If you're sleeping
Speaker 1: in separate bedrooms, you're on completely different schedules. I mean,
Speaker 1: no offense. Amy. I know you said that you you
Speaker 1: know Dale goes to bed before you, But for me,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of good to start your
Speaker 1: own routines together. So if one person goes to bed,
Speaker 1: maybe try fitting in with their bedtime, especially if Mitch
Speaker 1: is just on YouTube. You're being a bit closed minded,
Speaker 1: because what about for couples who might do shift work
Speaker 1: and their sleeping patterns are different. I think that I've
Speaker 1: just said the scenario different. I don't agree with you.
Speaker 1: I get where Kate's coming from. I think it's also
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they you know, there
Speaker 1: are roomors around about their relationship and the fact that
Speaker 1: all of Mitch's stuff is in that room. I totally
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from. I'm just saying that what
Speaker 1: works for some couples doesn't work for others, And I
Speaker 1: think you're being a bit closed minded by saying that
Speaker 1: one thing that works for you and your partner works
Speaker 1: for other people. I know stereotypically most couples share a room.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that she's explaining the situation. She's explaining
Speaker 1: why it doesn't work. They are in a bit of
Speaker 1: a different situation working together. But I'm saying that doing
Speaker 1: shift work is very different to someone wanting to stay
Speaker 1: up late on YouTube and watch videos. And you would
Speaker 1: think if you had a young son who obviously his
Speaker 1: sleeping pattern would be all over the place, that you
Speaker 1: would put aside your personal preference to watch YouTube videos
Speaker 1: late into the night to actually set up a routine
Speaker 1: and get things back on track with your girlfriend. Just
Speaker 1: to defend Mitchell who's staying up late as someone else
Speaker 1: who does stay up late. You know, if your partner's
Speaker 1: going to bed super early, like you are allowed to
Speaker 1: have a life. They are very young, regardless of the
Speaker 1: fact they have a young child, they only they're only
Speaker 1: in their early twenties. She's allowed to He's allowed to
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, but he also needs a me
Speaker 1: time like This is what I'm taking from what Chloe's saying,
Speaker 1: is that they're together all day. Sometimes there is nothing
Speaker 1: better than getting into bed and just having some quiet time,
Speaker 1: scrolling on your phone, looking at whatever you want to
Speaker 1: look at. It's alluding to the fact that they're not
Speaker 1: sleeping in bed, as if it's like not having sex.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what you're alone. I don't
Speaker 1: know when it would be happening, to be honest, if
Speaker 1: they're not sleeping in the same room. Well, they work
Speaker 1: at home together, she'll be during the day when the
Speaker 1: baby's a sleepack clue. I just think you're being a
Speaker 1: bit judgmental, Kate, and just thinking that there's one way
Speaker 1: to have her relationships. Fuck them fas fucks a lot
Speaker 1: of them. Tell them they can stick fucking leavers up
Speaker 1: their fucking asses share a journalist life, they fuck are not.
Speaker 1: On Thursday, Anastasia kings North shared a birthday photo to
Speaker 1: Instagram that made me feel very old, not just because
Speaker 1: she was turning twenty one, but because she was sporting
Speaker 1: a visible G string that was poking above her dress.
Speaker 1: So some of our listeners will remember that this trend
Speaker 1: was popular in the early two thousands. Kate, can you
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more? Yeah, well, it's pretty
Speaker 1: simple trend. People would wear their g strings pulled up
Speaker 1: so it was visible above their low rise jenes. Now
Speaker 1: the look used to be referred to as the whale tail.
Speaker 1: And I suppose a lot of people may remember that
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton used to rock this lawk a lot. Also,
Speaker 1: Kim from Kathy Kim used to be sporting the G string.
Speaker 1: That was more fair. That was more of a piss
Speaker 1: take though, wasn't it. Oh yeah, And I do remember
Speaker 1: vividly Nathan Buckley's first wife, I think was Tanya wearing
Speaker 1: the look to the brown low metal and everyone been
Speaker 1: pretty shocked by it. Now, the trend didn't actually last
Speaker 1: long in the naughties because it sort of did it
Speaker 1: at one point eighty and reverted back to people wearing
Speaker 1: the Bridget Jones style undis. And I love that we
Speaker 1: did revert back to things being more comfortable and practical.
Speaker 1: But I'm not really surprised because look at Batha trends
Speaker 1: now baths have basically like bay the bottoms have turned
Speaker 1: into g strings. Basically, it just looks so absurd to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I could definitely not get around this trend,
Speaker 1: especially after Kim has been sporting on Katherin Kim for
Speaker 1: so many years. Well, the weirdest thing is that all
Speaker 1: the A listers and the high fashion brands and influencers
Speaker 1: are all getting around it. So there is this revival
Speaker 1: of the look. And so we've seen Haley Bieber, Bellahad Did,
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner, Jule Leep and Halsey all wearing this look.
Speaker 1: Even Giovanci and Vasaci are backing the look for spring
Speaker 1: and summer in twenty twenty one. And it has never
Speaker 1: made me more want to wear tracksuit pants and just
Speaker 1: not even engage with fashion these days. I love that
Speaker 1: this is how Fashion East is described it. It's deemed
Speaker 1: a hot girl detail that demands to be noticed, and
Speaker 1: in order to pull the look off, you have to
Speaker 1: give zero fucks. Well, they clearly look like they give
Speaker 1: zero fucks by the way they look. It looks absolutely
Speaker 1: obscene and ridiculous. Well, I think what's interesting about the
Speaker 1: look this time around is there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: trickery involved. So some people aren't actually wearing a G
Speaker 1: string and pulling it up. There are some clothing that
Speaker 1: actually have straps attached, so it looks like you're wearing
Speaker 1: a G string. I wondered that I felt like the
Speaker 1: G string looked ultra high, and I was trying to
Speaker 1: work out how that was all occurring. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that's so interesting about this trend is that it
Speaker 1: is just so in contrast to what people have been
Speaker 1: wearing in lockdown, which is I think why it is
Speaker 1: so popular. I did read an article of about this
Speaker 1: look being revived, and some fashion designers have said that
Speaker 1: the whole point of bringing it back is that women
Speaker 1: are no longer ashamed of being sexual and talking about sex,
Speaker 1: so they feel like they can wear this look and
Speaker 1: be proud to have their underwear on display. I thought
Speaker 1: that was quite an interesting concept to think about. How
Speaker 1: do you reckon this goes with the belly change. You
Speaker 1: think it's a bit too much had the belly chain
Speaker 1: and the physical G string because they kind of interlock
Speaker 1: with one another. I think this is kind of like
Speaker 1: when you're deciding between wearing a bold lip and a
Speaker 1: heavy eyeliner. I think you've got to choose one or
Speaker 1: the other. Do you know what's interesting. I'm just taking
Speaker 1: a look at the photo of Anastasia and she is
Speaker 1: wearing gievant she TRACKI dacks with it, so I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a bit of comfort built in with the tracks,
Speaker 1: a bit of style from the two thousands. I do
Speaker 1: hope it's removable because I don't see this trend lasting
Speaker 1: very long. Is anything wrong? Well, Sun, it's it's not
Speaker 1: at a Oh, I know, thanks again, career?
Speaker 3: Is that woman just wearing a bra?
Speaker 1: Former Instagram couple Isabelle Clark and Gie waite Ford are
Speaker 1: believed to have reunited more than a year after their
Speaker 1: dramatic breakup. So before we get into the details, so
Speaker 1: can you run us through? Who were Isabelle and Gai
Speaker 1: which I actually shot to fame when he was only
Speaker 1: fourteen years old on The X Factor. He ended up
Speaker 1: coming third on the show, which was in its fifth season,
Speaker 1: and ultimately signed with Sony Music and he released a
Speaker 1: single called Your Eyes, which peaked at number six on
Speaker 1: the Aria Singles Charts. I just remember him looking so young,
Speaker 1: but he was a sort of that young boy that
Speaker 1: all the teen girls loved. But it wasn't even like
Speaker 1: the heart throb. It was literally a little boy. I
Speaker 1: watched the video back today and I'm like, wow, he
Speaker 1: was young.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: This fact about Gie absolutely blew my mind. So he
Speaker 1: used to be an actor on Neighbors in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: and he played Sarah Beaumont's son. For those who don't know,
Speaker 1: that is the woman who had an affair with Karl
Speaker 1: on Susan, So she was the receptionist in the medical center.
Speaker 1: You know that a huge drama was around solely so
Speaker 1: on the show, Susan and Carl actually took GY's character
Speaker 1: in and fostered him. Really, I never knew that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but Susan, she's an absolute saint. Imagine taking in the
Speaker 1: child of you know, your husband's affair. Now, as well
Speaker 1: as appearing on Neighbors, he's also released new music over
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. He's also big on social media,
Speaker 1: so he has four hundred and forty thousand followers on
Speaker 1: Instagram and nine hundred and seventy two thousand subscribers on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Really for his music. Yeah, there's a mixture of music
Speaker 1: and vlogs and interviews. Wow. Now, as for Isabelle Clark,
Speaker 1: she is an influencer who has six hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: five thousand followers on Instagram and seventy five thousand subscribers
Speaker 1: on YouTube, so she's not as big on the YouTube
Speaker 1: front Now. She originally lived in Melbourne but moved to
Speaker 1: Sydney to be with Jai, and she is known for
Speaker 1: being friends with influencers like Madison Bully and Lexi Murray. Recently,
Speaker 1: you might have heard of her because she had a
Speaker 1: clothing collaboration with White Fox boutique called Sunflower Babies, and
Speaker 1: she's known for really opening up about her mental health journey.
Speaker 1: So in February twenty twenty one, she shared that she'd
Speaker 1: been hospitalized due to mental health and also spoke about
Speaker 1: how she struggles with depression and anxiety. Interestingly, Jai has
Speaker 1: also candidly spoken about his mental health and how Isabelle
Speaker 1: has helped his own personal journey. So in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: Gai was an ambassador for the Australian Suicide Prevention Foundation.
Speaker 1: It is really good to see influencers using their platforms
Speaker 1: to discuss mental health.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I recently listened to the Inspired Unemployed podcast they pulled
Speaker 1: out It would think it was a couple of weeks back,
Speaker 1: and they the first segment they spoke about their own
Speaker 1: struggles with anxiety and mental health, and it was so
Speaker 1: refreshing to listen to because so many young men bottle
Speaker 1: it up and for young men to be listening to
Speaker 1: that and hearing them so candidly speak about their own issues,
Speaker 1: because you see those guys on Instagram and you don't
Speaker 1: think they have a care in the world. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so great to hear them speaking about it.
Speaker 1: So I want to know how did Ji and Isabel
Speaker 1: meet considering they lived in different states. Well, Ji actually
Speaker 1: slid into Isabel's DMS and at the time, Isabel said
Speaker 1: she didn't know who Jai was, but she was originally
Speaker 1: put off because of his large following. She said she'd
Speaker 1: had a bad experience with someone else who had slid
Speaker 1: into her DM so she didn't reply. However, it seems
Speaker 1: like he was quite persistent because he kept messaging her
Speaker 1: and finally she replied and they decided to meet up
Speaker 1: when she was in Sydney next so they actually met
Speaker 1: at the Beyond the Valley Music Festival. I mean, got
Speaker 1: it seems like a long time ago when music festivals
Speaker 1: were actually a thing, But that was back in January
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Now the dates are a little bit contentious
Speaker 1: because Jai had had another high profile relationship with an
Speaker 1: American actress called Carrington Durham and that ended in July
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and she actually released a YouTube video crying
Speaker 1: about the breakup. So there was a little bit of oh, well,
Speaker 1: when did he get with isabel Clark. So the couple
Speaker 1: ended up doing long distance for six months before Isabelle
Speaker 1: moved to Sydney to be with Ji, and they lived
Speaker 1: at his grandparents' house for a year before moving out
Speaker 1: into their own apartment. Now they were I think they
Speaker 1: were in their apartment for a few months. However, in
Speaker 1: September twenty twenty, Isabelle announced that they had broken up
Speaker 1: via a YouTube video. I did not know that they
Speaker 1: lived with their grandparents. Obviously they'd moved out by the
Speaker 1: stage they broke up, but I feel like living with
Speaker 1: grandparents that could put a bit of a strain on
Speaker 1: any sort of relationship. Well, it really did seem like
Speaker 1: there was a strain on this relationship and it wasn't
Speaker 1: as good as they portrayed it on Instagram, because rumors
Speaker 1: began swirling in late August twenty twenty that Jai had
Speaker 1: cheated on Isabelle. Now Isabelle, as I said, shared a
Speaker 1: video to her YouTube channel in September confirming the split,
Speaker 1: and this is what she said.
Speaker 5: Chy and I are no longer together.
Speaker 3: I am still super super duper her And I'm only
Speaker 3: like saying this in this video because I am receiving
Speaker 3: so many messages about it all the time, and I'm
Speaker 3: trying to heal myself and constantly having you know, screenshots
Speaker 3: of comments and screenshots of messages that I don't know,
Speaker 3: Facebook groups, things like that.
Speaker 5: Like, it's been really super difficult. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: tell you guys here on my YouTube that, yeah, we're
Speaker 5: no longer together and we I do not ever.
Speaker 3: Plan on getting back with him.
Speaker 1: Got their pretty strong words, because we've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of influencer breakups in recent times, and no one's really
Speaker 1: had the nerve to say something like that. That's so final,
Speaker 1: Isn't it good on her? I feel like the influences
Speaker 1: divulging about their breakups is now a thing of the past.
Speaker 1: I want to hear all the juicy details. It is
Speaker 1: a little bit awkward that she said that she'd never
Speaker 1: get back together with him and now it appears they
Speaker 1: are back together. Yeah, but we've got to remember at
Speaker 1: the time, there were screenshots floating around that seemingly proved
Speaker 1: Jai had cheated on her, so I would be pretty
Speaker 1: humiliated and would want to go on a rant on
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. This was super juicy. So in March
Speaker 1: of this year, which was six months on from the breakup,
Speaker 1: Giana decided to answer a question about their breakup on
Speaker 1: a YouTube video, and he gave a lot of insight.
Speaker 1: He spoke for nearly five minutes on the topic and
Speaker 1: this video has a mass over seventy five thousand views.
Speaker 1: So Jia initially said that the breakup was both of
Speaker 1: their faults and that they were really poor at communicating
Speaker 1: with one another. He also said that the simplest conversations
Speaker 1: would turn into an argument because they weren't on the
Speaker 1: same page. He then went on to admit that he
Speaker 1: was a very shit boyfriend and that things got super
Speaker 1: toxic because he was personally in a bad place. What
Speaker 1: I found the juiciest about this interview was he went
Speaker 1: into great detail about how he actually broke up with her.
Speaker 1: If I was Isabelle, I would not want this out
Speaker 1: on the internet. So he explained that they had decided
Speaker 1: to take a two week break to work out what
Speaker 1: they needed to do. So he said he went to
Speaker 1: Cronulla to stay with his uncle, and isabel stayed at
Speaker 1: their apartment. Now, Jaia explained that he spent the two
Speaker 1: weeks trying to work out how he was going to
Speaker 1: break up with her. However, it appears Isabelle spent the
Speaker 1: two weeks trying to work out how they were actually
Speaker 1: going to make it work. Now, when Jie got home,
Speaker 1: he said, he decided to write Isabelle a card, basically
Speaker 1: breaking up with her. Now, this does not seem like
Speaker 1: a very smart idea, And he said he walked into
Speaker 1: their apartment and she Cley had had the complete opposite idea,
Speaker 1: because she had put together a three course lunch for them,
Speaker 1: and their dog had run up and jumped on his leg.
Speaker 1: And he said he just felt so bad. And this
Speaker 1: was the whole reason he'd wrote the card, because he
Speaker 1: knew things would escalate pretty quickly and a fire would
Speaker 1: break out. I mean, yeah, obviously, And apparently the card
Speaker 1: ended up being tossed over the balcony. God. I mean,
Speaker 1: he spent two weeks coming up with a way to
Speaker 1: tell her, and the card was the best option. I
Speaker 1: think he's fallen a little bit short there. Could you
Speaker 1: imagine receiving a card. Someone standing there gives you a
Speaker 1: card and you're supposed to read, oh, I'm breaking up
Speaker 1: with you. Yes, see, terrible idea. So he gave it
Speaker 1: to her and she just threw it over. Then, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think she read it well. I think that's
Speaker 1: the worst way to break up with somebody via a card,
Speaker 1: because then you permanently have that card. Wait, it's on
Speaker 1: sex in the City when the post this is like that? Like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to look back at a card of
Speaker 1: someone explaining why they don't want to be with him. No,
Speaker 1: definitely not. Do you guys think that he would have
Speaker 1: asked Isabelle's permition to talk about their breakup on YouTube?
Speaker 1: Is that something YouTube couples would do well? No, I
Speaker 1: actually don't think he would have asked her, because he
Speaker 1: did go on to say that they haven't actually spoken
Speaker 1: since then. He said that he has got a special
Speaker 1: place in his heart for Isabelle, but it just didn't
Speaker 1: work out and it's a shame and it sucks, he said.
Speaker 1: He went on to say he's learnt a lot from
Speaker 1: their relationship and the breakup actually shaped him as a person.
Speaker 1: Let's have a bit of a listen of what else
Speaker 1: he said, YEA.
Speaker 2: A place in But yeah it sucks.
Speaker 4: But at twenty one years old, I believe I physically
Speaker 4: did not possess the to tools to be able to
Speaker 4: deal and cope with the depth that that relationship deserves. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like we were at a point where it was like
Speaker 4: we're working around, like we're talking about getting married, We're
Speaker 4: talking about how the kids like I didn't have what
Speaker 4: it takes to be able to be that. I was like, shit, like,
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 2: Love to be able to be that for you, but
Speaker 2: I can't. I know I can't.
Speaker 4: And if we keep going down this track, it's going
Speaker 4: to get turn times worse because what if five is tim,
Speaker 4: there's a business or a property or a child of wealth,
Speaker 4: I'm still going to end up doing the same thing anyway,
Speaker 4: because we're both unhappy.
Speaker 1: To me, Now that I know that they may be
Speaker 1: back together, I feel like he's taken the time to
Speaker 1: reflect on their relationship and learn from it, and I
Speaker 1: do get the vibe that he did want to get
Speaker 1: back with her. I am surprised though, that she would
Speaker 1: want to take him back, especially if any of these
Speaker 1: cheating rumors are true. Well, she obviously wanted to be
Speaker 1: with him because she was trying to work on their relationship.
Speaker 1: On a side note, do you guys notice that he
Speaker 1: permanently looks like he's pouting when he talks in his
Speaker 1: YouTube videos. I thought that he is trying to look
Speaker 1: like Justin Bieber when Justin Bieber had each blonde hair.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like we've got to get into
Speaker 1: the reasons why people think that they are back together.
Speaker 1: And we did get a bit of a cheeky DM,
Speaker 1: a bit of a slide in of someone who was
Speaker 1: at the same appointment as Isabelle and loudly heard her
Speaker 1: talking about being back together with Jai Kate, Can you
Speaker 1: fill us in on more details of this, Well, there's
Speaker 1: not many more details that I can give that doesn't
Speaker 1: out this person because I would like to keep them anonymous.
Speaker 1: But as you said, it's quite clear that they're back together.
Speaker 1: Isabella is out and about telling people that she's back
Speaker 1: with Jai. Some eagle eyed fans have also spotted him
Speaker 1: in the background of some of her Instagram stories, and
Speaker 1: her fans aren't happy about it. Someone wrote on her
Speaker 1: YouTube video, Jai literally cheated on you so so much
Speaker 1: when you were together. What are you doing back with him.
Speaker 1: This is embarrassing, laugh out loud practice what you preach girl,
Speaker 1: And that message got forty four likes. Well, do you
Speaker 1: think that Isabelle and Madison have all been kind of
Speaker 1: bonding over the fact that they're both back with their
Speaker 1: ex boyfriends, maybe egging each other. Well, it's lockdown, people
Speaker 1: are getting back with their exes.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, if they've both been struggling with some mental health
Speaker 1: issues and need to work on themselves, maybe they've had
Speaker 1: the time to work on themselves and figure out a
Speaker 1: way to make it work. Yeah, he might have changed.
Speaker 1: I mean they're so young. Like boys, minds don't mature
Speaker 1: until later in life. Maybe he's grown up a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: I am really interested to see the posts when Isabelle
Speaker 1: and also Madison are officially back with the boyfriends when
Speaker 1: they do, I don't know, they feel like they're doing
Speaker 1: the soft launches at the moment. I'm just hanging out
Speaker 1: for these posts. But we saw it in the UK
Speaker 1: that a lot of couples got back together and then
Speaker 1: ended up dumping one another after the world reopens, so
Speaker 1: we could see what happened. We could see a bit
Speaker 1: of that. Well, if anyone does have any more goss.
Speaker 1: Our dms are always open, So Kerrie, what was your news? Oh,
Speaker 1: Burger broke up with me on a post it on
Speaker 1: a post it? Uh huh uh huh, Yep, read it
Speaker 1: and weep. My friends, Sammy Robinson has returned to YouTube
Speaker 1: after a ten week hiatus to reveal she's ready for
Speaker 1: a Hot Girl summer vlog comes amid rumors Sammy and
Speaker 1: alleged boat Jordan Simmy are no longer together. Kay, what
Speaker 1: happened in this blog? Well, let's just take it back
Speaker 1: to last week, because we were discussing that Sammy and
Speaker 1: Jordan had split. Now, their relationship has never been confirmed,
Speaker 1: but we've been getting a lot of dms. We've been
Speaker 1: putting the pieces together, and Sammy announced last week on
Speaker 1: an Instagram story that she was single, and Jordan announced
Speaker 1: on his podcast that he had just broken up with someone.
Speaker 1: So it seems like the timelines are fitting together now.
Speaker 1: I do think that this relationship was very much a
Speaker 1: rebound because Sammy only I think it was just before
Speaker 1: Lockdown broke up with her long term boyfriend, Nick Wheatley.
Speaker 1: So I feel like it hasn't been a great time
Speaker 1: for Sammy it's really hard, I suppose going through a
Speaker 1: really serious heartbreak and then having a bit of a
Speaker 1: kick in the guts when you break up with someone else.
Speaker 1: So in Sammy's recent vlog, she did open up a
Speaker 1: little bit more about her single life, and she apologized
Speaker 1: to her subscribers for being absent, and she said that
Speaker 1: she'd been going through a lot of life change. She
Speaker 1: said she'd been in a state of limbo and that
Speaker 1: things had been weird and crazy and that she needed
Speaker 1: time to process things. Let's take a listen to what
Speaker 1: else she said.
Speaker 2: I still feel like I'm just not really to bespeak
Speaker 2: about things, if that makes sense. So I'd rather just
Speaker 2: kind of hang out with you guys and vlog with
Speaker 2: you guys. I feel like we're sort of entering that
Speaker 2: next stage of after heartbreak, after a bit of loneliness
Speaker 2: and quite stressful circumstances were coming out. You know, there's
Speaker 2: some live end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1: The vlog really then did end up turning into an
Speaker 1: ad for cotton on bikinis, but I felt like it
Speaker 1: was the perfect fuck you to Jordan see me, to
Speaker 1: see what he's missing out on. Did you guys see
Speaker 1: she did cause a little bit of controversy on an
Speaker 1: Instagram story because she posted an adorable photo of a
Speaker 1: dog's Nala and Simber, and in the background you could
Speaker 1: see someone in bed with their leg oh yes, and
Speaker 1: followers jump to conclusions thinking it was Jordan or I
Speaker 1: suppose another guy, and she had to put up on
Speaker 1: her Instagram story confirming that's just my sister's leg. In
Speaker 1: the background, the dogs are on her bed. It is
Speaker 1: nice to see Sammy and her sister living together. I
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to have so much fun in
Speaker 1: that little apartment. I just want to know who's now
Speaker 1: living in that amazing room at Sammy's parents' house, because
Speaker 1: remember when Sammy first started vogging, she had it was
Speaker 1: like a loft or something with her Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the sister moved in, which lucky family member now has this?
Speaker 1: Could I possibly rent there if I go it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was going to say maybe their parents are renting
Speaker 1: it out as an Airbnb. I still can't get over
Speaker 1: how incredible their view of the Sydney Harbor Bridge is
Speaker 1: from that balcony or wherever they are. She always manages
Speaker 1: on New Year's to have this incredible shot of her
Speaker 1: making out with Nick. With the fireworks going on, I
Speaker 1: wonder what the post will be this year. You only
Speaker 1: realize how expensive Sammy's family house must be when you
Speaker 1: start watching lux listening and she's got that other one
Speaker 1: in the Northern Beaches, that holiday house like the Palm
Speaker 1: Beach or something that looks amazing easily her parents do
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, back to what Sammy said in
Speaker 1: the video, did it disturb anyone else that she said
Speaker 1: that she would be such an awkward single person? Because
Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: I am not single, because I'd hate to be, you know,
Speaker 1: on the dating market with Sammy Robinson out there. Forgive
Speaker 1: me for trying to clash up this place, for trying
Speaker 1: to have the Yankees rich another strata of society that
Speaker 1: might not watch Channel eleven. What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: I am eating my dessert? How do you eat it
Speaker 1: with your hands? This week, Shannie Grimman took us behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of her swimwear's biggest launch ever. From the onset,
Speaker 1: it was clear this was a massive payday for the influencer. Kate,
Speaker 1: You've got to tell us about Shanny and her friend's reaction.
Speaker 1: So Shanny was spending the day. I think I'm trying
Speaker 1: to work out what the connection this friend is if
Speaker 1: she works for Shanni. Her name's Lisha. She seems to
Speaker 1: be popping up in a few of her videos. She's
Speaker 1: in her og videos because I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: was watching one of Michael Finch's old videos and it
Speaker 1: was when he moved into his apartment and that same
Speaker 1: girl was over and she was putting together his outdoor
Speaker 1: for so she must be an old friend of Sharni's
Speaker 1: and Michael. Do you think that Sharanny has distanced herself
Speaker 1: with Chloe because they did seem to be getting quite
Speaker 1: close before all of this anti vax stuff happened. Just
Speaker 1: talking about old friends. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen them liking each other stuff. But then again,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Chini promoting the vaccine or that she's
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, so I'm not sure. Well, anyway, this friend, Lisha,
Speaker 1: she is a really good friend because I've got to
Speaker 1: say she was so excited for Shany. So the vlog
Speaker 1: started out with Sharnie saying how anxious she was about
Speaker 1: this launch. So they were launching a new range of
Speaker 1: red swimwear, and she said she'd actually pop some anti
Speaker 1: anxiety medication earlier in the day and she was just
Speaker 1: feeling really jittery about the things. And she showed herself
Speaker 1: filming some Instagram content for when the sale went live. Now,
Speaker 1: the vlog went on to show Shanni and Lisha sitting
Speaker 1: in Charnie's lounge room and they had the computer up
Speaker 1: and Sharni had just sent out an edium promoting the
Speaker 1: pre sale. Now, it was kind of interesting to see
Speaker 1: that Sharni does all of those things. She said that
Speaker 1: this week she had been answering all the customer emails
Speaker 1: and next week she was actually getting an employee in
Speaker 1: to do that. So basically the pre launch email was
Speaker 1: sent out and suddenly Sharne's phone was just blowing up,
Speaker 1: and it was quite funny. There was this coin noise,
Speaker 1: like as if when every sale went through, this coin
Speaker 1: noise would be made, and Lisha's like, are they the sales?
Speaker 1: And then basically the whole line then went on public
Speaker 1: sale and her friend was just going nuts over how
Speaker 1: many people were on the site. We didn't get to
Speaker 1: see it, but it kind of made me feel sick.
Speaker 1: How much money Shanny would have made Let's stro to
Speaker 1: a clip of Sharnie and her friend Lisha flipping out
Speaker 1: over the sales. Oh cold, I'm cold, We're my nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure another one.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you hear the Let's go?
Speaker 1: It's so look at all the people. Wait, is that
Speaker 1: the map of where people were lying? Yeah, in the world.
Speaker 1: So we have Australia and then we have New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, let's see if there's anyone overseas.
Speaker 2: Hello from America.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so fully shit, someone just bought four pieces.
Speaker 1: I do remember seeing something quite similar on one of
Speaker 1: Chloe and Mitch's vlogs. It was when they dropped one
Speaker 1: of Zep's line. And I also do remember hearing that
Speaker 1: noise in the background of one of Mitch Third's videos
Speaker 1: when all the sales for his drink bottles were coming through.
Speaker 1: It must be an absolutely incredible feeling. It is kind
Speaker 1: of good to hear though, that Shanny was a little
Speaker 1: bit nervous, because I would assume such a big influencer,
Speaker 1: she would feel really assured that her fans when it's
Speaker 1: just going to go on and you know, buy all
Speaker 1: of the bathers. But it is quite nice to see
Speaker 1: that they are human and are concerned about that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. It was good from the perspective that you
Speaker 1: can see that she's very hands on with her brand,
Speaker 1: and in the comments under the YouTube, people were so
Speaker 1: happy for her. But for me, I kind of sick
Speaker 1: thinking about how much of a stranglehold influencers have on
Speaker 1: the retail industry, and particularly fast fashion. I have seen
Speaker 1: that Shannie has brought in a few eco friendly things
Speaker 1: to her brand. It's hard to actually comment because we
Speaker 1: don't know where Shanni gets her bays on, but I
Speaker 1: do know where you're coming from. I think for anybody
Speaker 1: that's gone to UNI and studied a degree and has
Speaker 1: had to work their way up, it is sort of
Speaker 1: confronting to see somebody earning so much money in one hit.
Speaker 1: But then again, we are so lucky to live in
Speaker 1: this world where anybody can start a business and become successful.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that frustrates me a little bit
Speaker 1: is the fact that Shanne posts so irregularly, so it
Speaker 1: seems like she only puts out a YouTube video when
Speaker 1: she has something to push and promote, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: really feel like a genuine connection anymore. I tend to
Speaker 1: agree with you, Sophie, and that's why I was so
Speaker 1: surprised that this was the most successful drop that she's
Speaker 1: had in terms of sales, because I do feel like
Speaker 1: she's a little bit irrelevant these days. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: she was probably Australia's favorite influencer and now she doesn't
Speaker 1: really upload that much content. It is interesting timing because
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, Shanie answered questions on her
Speaker 1: Q and A and people ask whether she is on
Speaker 1: the hunt for a house and she confirmed that she
Speaker 1: is looking for a house currently to buy, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is going to be a bit of the house deposit.
Speaker 1: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you
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