1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, Welcome back to another 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: episode of Outspoken. Now, usually we like to start the 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: show with something light, but we do want to dedicate 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: this episode to our good friend has Lee. So sadly, 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: has Lee passed away on Sunday of COVID nineteen and 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: we met has Lee when we were fifteen. I think 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: it was when we were holidaying in Penang. He was 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: a lifeguarded at resort and we became really good friends 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: with him over the past seventeen years. And it's just 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: absolutely tragic news because he was hooked up to a 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: ventilator and obviously they have to make the tough decisions 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: of who gets that ventilator, and sadly that was someone 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: else there that needed it. Yeah, it is very sadden. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: It just shows you how important it is to go 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: out and get vaccinated because unfortunately these are the tough 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: decisions that doctors are having to make every day around 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: the world. And Haslee he did have his first vaccination. 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he hadn't got his second vaccination yet. So anybody 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: that's listening, Haslee was young, he had a lot of 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: life to live, and it's just so important to go 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: and get vaccinated. And I think we just want to 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: end on a high note. Haslee was just the most 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: beautiful person. His nickname was Nemo because he was small, 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and he was also a lifeguard, so love swimming. And 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: I think what really sums him up was when we 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I think we were twenty two at the time, and 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: he asked our mum and dad's permission if he could 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: take us to his village and he said, Mama and Papa, 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I said, okay, if I take the girls. And he 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: was just the most lovely person. And we're really going 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: to miss him, and our thoughts are with his family 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: at this really difficult time. Chloe Zepp has confirmed she 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: and baby daddy Mitch all no longer sleep together in 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: the same bedroom. During a house too on Instagram, Chloe 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: shared vision of Mitch and her separate bedrooms. Now og 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: listeners will know that Mitch has previously been banished to 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: sleep in the couple's movie room before, but now it 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: seems like this is a more permanent situation. Yeah, so 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: some listeners may remember when we discuss Chloe and Mitch's 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: relationship update vlog back in July that Mitch shared he 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: was sleeping in the movie room. Now, there have been 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: some bloody classic comments about this movie room along the way. 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: So there were also previous discussions that Chloe sleeps with Artie, 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: so Mitch had been sleeping in another room to get 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: some sleep. However, as you mentioned Sophie on Sunday's Insta story, 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: it was quite obvious that this was now a permanent 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: arrangement because to me, it seemed like it was a 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: little boy's room, Like he had his shoes set up 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: on a special stand and all his things in his room, 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: and then she had all her I don't know, meditation 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: equipment in her room, equipment, I don't know, crystals and whatnot, 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: moon water. So yeah, it just seemed like they're living 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: very separate lives in different rooms. Does any what do 59 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: you think that this is actually a good idea to 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: sleep in a separate room to your partner because I've 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: got to say, my boyfriend Dale is six foot four 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: and we've got a queen sized bed, but there's not 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: heaps and heaps of room. And I must say some nights, 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: if there was a queen size bed, I'd be tempted 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: to go in there just to stretch out. Well, that's 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: like Brandon. He will sleep with his knee up in 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: the air, which steals all of the blanket. He was 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: also loudly snoring in my face last night, which I 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: haven't actually told her about because he's not regularly asnorous. 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: So I could see how this sort of situation could work. 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I do think if there was an obvious reason that 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: was preventing you from getting some sleep, it may be 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: a good idea to have a spare room so on 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: that odd occasion you could go in there. However, as 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: we said, this seems like a pretty permanent situation and 76 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: something that they're sticking with, and it seems like a 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of Chloe's followers thought it was strange because she 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: ended up having to post a follow up and she wrote, 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: we sleep in separate rooms because we are around each 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: other at twenty four seven and I like to sleep early, 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: and he likes to stay up late on crypto and 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: watching YouTube. Plus it's good to have some space from 83 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: each other when you both work from home. I don't 84 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: think there needs to be a certain way relationships have 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: to be. Everyone is different. It works the best for us. 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: You know. 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: It cracks me up because I am the Mitchell in 88 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: my relationship and Dale is the Chloe going to bed early. 89 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing crypto late at night, but I do 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: like to stay up and watch a bit of Money heist, 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: Bit of Love Ireland. I think she does raise a 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: good point, though, about the fact that they do work together. Generally, 93 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: most couples get out of the house from one another 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: and excited to see each other when they return home, 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: so I can kind of understand this situation a bit more. 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: I suppose the reason there is speculation around it is 97 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: because they have been quite open with their relationship struggles. 98 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: So that's why I assume people are thinking there's more 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, do you find it a bit weird 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: that Chloe didn't really acknowledge their relationship issues when she 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: did get this question thrown at her though, because that's 102 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: clearly what people are wondering about. Yeah, Well, I don't 103 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: think it really seems like any relationships going game busters 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: if you're not showing the same room. Like, let's be honest, like, 105 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: how are you Marrio typical? Kate? No, but how are 106 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: you meant to connect as a couple If you're sleeping 107 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: in separate bedrooms, you're on completely different schedules. I mean, 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: no offense. Amy. I know you said that you you 109 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: know Dale goes to bed before you, But for me, 110 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of good to start your 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: own routines together. So if one person goes to bed, 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: maybe try fitting in with their bedtime, especially if Mitch 113 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: is just on YouTube. You're being a bit closed minded, 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: because what about for couples who might do shift work 115 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: and their sleeping patterns are different. I think that I've 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: just said the scenario different. I don't agree with you. 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: I get where Kate's coming from. I think it's also 118 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they you know, there 119 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: are roomors around about their relationship and the fact that 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: all of Mitch's stuff is in that room. I totally 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: get where you're coming from. I'm just saying that what 122 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: works for some couples doesn't work for others, And I 123 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: think you're being a bit closed minded by saying that 124 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: one thing that works for you and your partner works 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: for other people. I know stereotypically most couples share a room. 126 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that she's explaining the situation. She's explaining 127 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: why it doesn't work. They are in a bit of 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: a different situation working together. But I'm saying that doing 129 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: shift work is very different to someone wanting to stay 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: up late on YouTube and watch videos. And you would 131 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: think if you had a young son who obviously his 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: sleeping pattern would be all over the place, that you 133 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: would put aside your personal preference to watch YouTube videos 134 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: late into the night to actually set up a routine 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: and get things back on track with your girlfriend. Just 136 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: to defend Mitchell who's staying up late as someone else 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: who does stay up late. You know, if your partner's 138 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: going to bed super early, like you are allowed to 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: have a life. They are very young, regardless of the 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: fact they have a young child, they only they're only 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: in their early twenties. She's allowed to He's allowed to 142 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, but he also needs a me 143 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: time like This is what I'm taking from what Chloe's saying, 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: is that they're together all day. Sometimes there is nothing 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: better than getting into bed and just having some quiet time, 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: scrolling on your phone, looking at whatever you want to 147 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: look at. It's alluding to the fact that they're not 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: sleeping in bed, as if it's like not having sex. 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what you're alone. I don't 150 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: know when it would be happening, to be honest, if 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: they're not sleeping in the same room. Well, they work 152 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: at home together, she'll be during the day when the 153 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: baby's a sleepack clue. I just think you're being a 154 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: bit judgmental, Kate, and just thinking that there's one way 155 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: to have her relationships. Fuck them fas fucks a lot 156 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: of them. Tell them they can stick fucking leavers up 157 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: their fucking asses share a journalist life, they fuck are not. 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: On Thursday, Anastasia kings North shared a birthday photo to 159 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Instagram that made me feel very old, not just because 160 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: she was turning twenty one, but because she was sporting 161 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: a visible G string that was poking above her dress. 162 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: So some of our listeners will remember that this trend 163 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: was popular in the early two thousands. Kate, can you 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more? Yeah, well, it's pretty 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: simple trend. People would wear their g strings pulled up 166 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: so it was visible above their low rise jenes. Now 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the look used to be referred to as the whale tail. 168 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: And I suppose a lot of people may remember that 169 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton used to rock this lawk a lot. Also, 170 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Kim from Kathy Kim used to be sporting the G string. 171 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: That was more fair. That was more of a piss 172 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: take though, wasn't it. Oh yeah, And I do remember 173 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: vividly Nathan Buckley's first wife, I think was Tanya wearing 174 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: the look to the brown low metal and everyone been 175 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: pretty shocked by it. Now, the trend didn't actually last 176 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: long in the naughties because it sort of did it 177 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: at one point eighty and reverted back to people wearing 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the Bridget Jones style undis. And I love that we 179 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: did revert back to things being more comfortable and practical. 180 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: But I'm not really surprised because look at Batha trends 181 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: now baths have basically like bay the bottoms have turned 182 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: into g strings. Basically, it just looks so absurd to me. 183 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I could definitely not get around this trend, 184 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: especially after Kim has been sporting on Katherin Kim for 185 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: so many years. Well, the weirdest thing is that all 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: the A listers and the high fashion brands and influencers 187 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: are all getting around it. So there is this revival 188 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: of the look. And so we've seen Haley Bieber, Bellahad Did, 189 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner, Jule Leep and Halsey all wearing this look. 190 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Even Giovanci and Vasaci are backing the look for spring 191 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: and summer in twenty twenty one. And it has never 192 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: made me more want to wear tracksuit pants and just 193 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: not even engage with fashion these days. I love that 194 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: this is how Fashion East is described it. It's deemed 195 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: a hot girl detail that demands to be noticed, and 196 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: in order to pull the look off, you have to 197 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: give zero fucks. Well, they clearly look like they give 198 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: zero fucks by the way they look. It looks absolutely 199 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: obscene and ridiculous. Well, I think what's interesting about the 200 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: look this time around is there's a little bit of 201 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: trickery involved. So some people aren't actually wearing a G 202 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: string and pulling it up. There are some clothing that 203 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: actually have straps attached, so it looks like you're wearing 204 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: a G string. I wondered that I felt like the 205 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: G string looked ultra high, and I was trying to 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: work out how that was all occurring. I think the 207 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: thing that's so interesting about this trend is that it 208 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: is just so in contrast to what people have been 209 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: wearing in lockdown, which is I think why it is 210 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: so popular. I did read an article of about this 211 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: look being revived, and some fashion designers have said that 212 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the whole point of bringing it back is that women 213 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: are no longer ashamed of being sexual and talking about sex, 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: so they feel like they can wear this look and 215 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: be proud to have their underwear on display. I thought 216 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: that was quite an interesting concept to think about. How 217 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: do you reckon this goes with the belly change. You 218 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: think it's a bit too much had the belly chain 219 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: and the physical G string because they kind of interlock 220 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: with one another. I think this is kind of like 221 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: when you're deciding between wearing a bold lip and a 222 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: heavy eyeliner. I think you've got to choose one or 223 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the other. Do you know what's interesting. I'm just taking 224 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: a look at the photo of Anastasia and she is 225 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: wearing gievant she TRACKI dacks with it, so I feel 226 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: like it's a bit of comfort built in with the tracks, 227 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: a bit of style from the two thousands. I do 228 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: hope it's removable because I don't see this trend lasting 229 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: very long. Is anything wrong? Well, Sun, it's it's not 230 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: at a Oh, I know, thanks again, career? 231 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: Is that woman just wearing a bra? 232 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Former Instagram couple Isabelle Clark and Gie waite Ford are 233 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: believed to have reunited more than a year after their 234 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: dramatic breakup. So before we get into the details, so 235 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: can you run us through? Who were Isabelle and Gai 236 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: which I actually shot to fame when he was only 237 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: fourteen years old on The X Factor. He ended up 238 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: coming third on the show, which was in its fifth season, 239 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately signed with Sony Music and he released a 240 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: single called Your Eyes, which peaked at number six on 241 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: the Aria Singles Charts. I just remember him looking so young, 242 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: but he was a sort of that young boy that 243 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: all the teen girls loved. But it wasn't even like 244 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: the heart throb. It was literally a little boy. I 245 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: watched the video back today and I'm like, wow, he 246 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: was young. 247 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 4: Now. 248 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: This fact about Gie absolutely blew my mind. So he 249 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: used to be an actor on Neighbors in twenty sixteen, 250 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: and he played Sarah Beaumont's son. For those who don't know, 251 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: that is the woman who had an affair with Karl 252 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: on Susan, So she was the receptionist in the medical center. 253 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: You know that a huge drama was around solely so 254 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: on the show, Susan and Carl actually took GY's character 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: in and fostered him. Really, I never knew that. I'm sorry, 256 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: but Susan, she's an absolute saint. Imagine taking in the 257 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: child of you know, your husband's affair. Now, as well 258 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: as appearing on Neighbors, he's also released new music over 259 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. He's also big on social media, 260 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: so he has four hundred and forty thousand followers on 261 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Instagram and nine hundred and seventy two thousand subscribers on YouTube. 262 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: Really for his music. Yeah, there's a mixture of music 263 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: and vlogs and interviews. Wow. Now, as for Isabelle Clark, 264 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: she is an influencer who has six hundred and fifty 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: five thousand followers on Instagram and seventy five thousand subscribers 266 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: on YouTube, so she's not as big on the YouTube 267 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: front Now. She originally lived in Melbourne but moved to 268 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: Sydney to be with Jai, and she is known for 269 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: being friends with influencers like Madison Bully and Lexi Murray. Recently, 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: you might have heard of her because she had a 271 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: clothing collaboration with White Fox boutique called Sunflower Babies, and 272 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: she's known for really opening up about her mental health journey. 273 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: So in February twenty twenty one, she shared that she'd 274 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: been hospitalized due to mental health and also spoke about 275 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: how she struggles with depression and anxiety. Interestingly, Jai has 276 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: also candidly spoken about his mental health and how Isabelle 277 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: has helped his own personal journey. So in twenty eighteen, 278 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Gai was an ambassador for the Australian Suicide Prevention Foundation. 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: It is really good to see influencers using their platforms 280 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: to discuss mental health. 281 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: Well. 282 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: I recently listened to the Inspired Unemployed podcast they pulled 283 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: out It would think it was a couple of weeks back, 284 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: and they the first segment they spoke about their own 285 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: struggles with anxiety and mental health, and it was so 286 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: refreshing to listen to because so many young men bottle 287 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: it up and for young men to be listening to 288 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: that and hearing them so candidly speak about their own issues, 289 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: because you see those guys on Instagram and you don't 290 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: think they have a care in the world. But yeah, 291 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: it was so great to hear them speaking about it. 292 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: So I want to know how did Ji and Isabel 293 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: meet considering they lived in different states. Well, Ji actually 294 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: slid into Isabel's DMS and at the time, Isabel said 295 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: she didn't know who Jai was, but she was originally 296 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: put off because of his large following. She said she'd 297 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: had a bad experience with someone else who had slid 298 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: into her DM so she didn't reply. However, it seems 299 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: like he was quite persistent because he kept messaging her 300 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: and finally she replied and they decided to meet up 301 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: when she was in Sydney next so they actually met 302 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: at the Beyond the Valley Music Festival. I mean, got 303 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: it seems like a long time ago when music festivals 304 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: were actually a thing, But that was back in January 305 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Now the dates are a little bit contentious 306 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: because Jai had had another high profile relationship with an 307 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: American actress called Carrington Durham and that ended in July 308 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and she actually released a YouTube video crying 309 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: about the breakup. So there was a little bit of oh, well, 310 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: when did he get with isabel Clark. So the couple 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: ended up doing long distance for six months before Isabelle 312 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: moved to Sydney to be with Ji, and they lived 313 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: at his grandparents' house for a year before moving out 314 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: into their own apartment. Now they were I think they 315 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: were in their apartment for a few months. However, in 316 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: September twenty twenty, Isabelle announced that they had broken up 317 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: via a YouTube video. I did not know that they 318 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: lived with their grandparents. Obviously they'd moved out by the 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: stage they broke up, but I feel like living with 320 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: grandparents that could put a bit of a strain on 321 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: any sort of relationship. Well, it really did seem like 322 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: there was a strain on this relationship and it wasn't 323 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: as good as they portrayed it on Instagram, because rumors 324 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: began swirling in late August twenty twenty that Jai had 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: cheated on Isabelle. Now Isabelle, as I said, shared a 326 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: video to her YouTube channel in September confirming the split, 327 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: and this is what she said. 328 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: Chy and I are no longer together. 329 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: I am still super super duper her And I'm only 330 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: like saying this in this video because I am receiving 331 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: so many messages about it all the time, and I'm 332 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: trying to heal myself and constantly having you know, screenshots 333 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: of comments and screenshots of messages that I don't know, 334 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: Facebook groups, things like that. 335 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: Like, it's been really super difficult. So I'm just gonna 336 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: tell you guys here on my YouTube that, yeah, we're 337 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 5: no longer together and we I do not ever. 338 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Plan on getting back with him. 339 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Got their pretty strong words, because we've seen a lot 340 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: of influencer breakups in recent times, and no one's really 341 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: had the nerve to say something like that. That's so final, 342 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Isn't it good on her? I feel like the influences 343 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: divulging about their breakups is now a thing of the past. 344 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: I want to hear all the juicy details. It is 345 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: a little bit awkward that she said that she'd never 346 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: get back together with him and now it appears they 347 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: are back together. Yeah, but we've got to remember at 348 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: the time, there were screenshots floating around that seemingly proved 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Jai had cheated on her, so I would be pretty 350 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: humiliated and would want to go on a rant on 351 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. This was super juicy. So in March 352 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: of this year, which was six months on from the breakup, 353 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Giana decided to answer a question about their breakup on 354 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: a YouTube video, and he gave a lot of insight. 355 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: He spoke for nearly five minutes on the topic and 356 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: this video has a mass over seventy five thousand views. 357 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: So Jia initially said that the breakup was both of 358 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: their faults and that they were really poor at communicating 359 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: with one another. He also said that the simplest conversations 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: would turn into an argument because they weren't on the 361 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: same page. He then went on to admit that he 362 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: was a very shit boyfriend and that things got super 363 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: toxic because he was personally in a bad place. What 364 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: I found the juiciest about this interview was he went 365 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: into great detail about how he actually broke up with her. 366 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: If I was Isabelle, I would not want this out 367 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: on the internet. So he explained that they had decided 368 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: to take a two week break to work out what 369 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: they needed to do. So he said he went to 370 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Cronulla to stay with his uncle, and isabel stayed at 371 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: their apartment. Now, Jaia explained that he spent the two 372 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: weeks trying to work out how he was going to 373 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: break up with her. However, it appears Isabelle spent the 374 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: two weeks trying to work out how they were actually 375 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: going to make it work. Now, when Jie got home, 376 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: he said, he decided to write Isabelle a card, basically 377 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: breaking up with her. Now, this does not seem like 378 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: a very smart idea, And he said he walked into 379 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: their apartment and she Cley had had the complete opposite idea, 380 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: because she had put together a three course lunch for them, 381 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: and their dog had run up and jumped on his leg. 382 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: And he said he just felt so bad. And this 383 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: was the whole reason he'd wrote the card, because he 384 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: knew things would escalate pretty quickly and a fire would 385 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: break out. I mean, yeah, obviously, And apparently the card 386 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: ended up being tossed over the balcony. God. I mean, 387 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: he spent two weeks coming up with a way to 388 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: tell her, and the card was the best option. I 389 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: think he's fallen a little bit short there. Could you 390 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: imagine receiving a card. Someone standing there gives you a 391 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: card and you're supposed to read, oh, I'm breaking up 392 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: with you. Yes, see, terrible idea. So he gave it 393 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: to her and she just threw it over. Then, yeah, 394 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't think she read it well. I think that's 395 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the worst way to break up with somebody via a card, 396 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: because then you permanently have that card. Wait, it's on 397 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: sex in the City when the post this is like that? Like, 398 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to look back at a card of 399 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: someone explaining why they don't want to be with him. No, 400 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: definitely not. Do you guys think that he would have 401 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: asked Isabelle's permition to talk about their breakup on YouTube? 402 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: Is that something YouTube couples would do well? No, I 403 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: actually don't think he would have asked her, because he 404 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: did go on to say that they haven't actually spoken 405 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: since then. He said that he has got a special 406 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: place in his heart for Isabelle, but it just didn't 407 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: work out and it's a shame and it sucks, he said. 408 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: He went on to say he's learnt a lot from 409 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: their relationship and the breakup actually shaped him as a person. 410 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Let's have a bit of a listen of what else 411 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: he said, YEA. 412 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: A place in But yeah it sucks. 413 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: But at twenty one years old, I believe I physically 414 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: did not possess the to tools to be able to 415 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: deal and cope with the depth that that relationship deserves. Yeah, 416 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: Like we were at a point where it was like 417 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 4: we're working around, like we're talking about getting married, We're 418 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: talking about how the kids like I didn't have what 419 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: it takes to be able to be that. I was like, shit, like, 420 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: I would. 421 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: Love to be able to be that for you, but 422 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: I can't. I know I can't. 423 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: And if we keep going down this track, it's going 424 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: to get turn times worse because what if five is tim, 425 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: there's a business or a property or a child of wealth, 426 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm still going to end up doing the same thing anyway, 427 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: because we're both unhappy. 428 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: To me, Now that I know that they may be 429 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: back together, I feel like he's taken the time to 430 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: reflect on their relationship and learn from it, and I 431 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: do get the vibe that he did want to get 432 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: back with her. I am surprised though, that she would 433 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: want to take him back, especially if any of these 434 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: cheating rumors are true. Well, she obviously wanted to be 435 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: with him because she was trying to work on their relationship. 436 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: On a side note, do you guys notice that he 437 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: permanently looks like he's pouting when he talks in his 438 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: YouTube videos. I thought that he is trying to look 439 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: like Justin Bieber when Justin Bieber had each blonde hair. 440 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like we've got to get into 441 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the reasons why people think that they are back together. 442 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: And we did get a bit of a cheeky DM, 443 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: a bit of a slide in of someone who was 444 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: at the same appointment as Isabelle and loudly heard her 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: talking about being back together with Jai Kate, Can you 446 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: fill us in on more details of this, Well, there's 447 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: not many more details that I can give that doesn't 448 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: out this person because I would like to keep them anonymous. 449 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: But as you said, it's quite clear that they're back together. 450 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Isabella is out and about telling people that she's back 451 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: with Jai. Some eagle eyed fans have also spotted him 452 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: in the background of some of her Instagram stories, and 453 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: her fans aren't happy about it. Someone wrote on her 454 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: YouTube video, Jai literally cheated on you so so much 455 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: when you were together. What are you doing back with him. 456 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: This is embarrassing, laugh out loud practice what you preach girl, 457 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: And that message got forty four likes. Well, do you 458 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: think that Isabelle and Madison have all been kind of 459 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: bonding over the fact that they're both back with their 460 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: ex boyfriends, maybe egging each other. Well, it's lockdown, people 461 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: are getting back with their exes. 462 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: Well. 463 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Also, if they've both been struggling with some mental health 464 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: issues and need to work on themselves, maybe they've had 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: the time to work on themselves and figure out a 466 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: way to make it work. Yeah, he might have changed. 467 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: I mean they're so young. Like boys, minds don't mature 468 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: until later in life. Maybe he's grown up a little bit. Well, 469 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: I am really interested to see the posts when Isabelle 470 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: and also Madison are officially back with the boyfriends when 471 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: they do, I don't know, they feel like they're doing 472 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: the soft launches at the moment. I'm just hanging out 473 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: for these posts. But we saw it in the UK 474 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of couples got back together and then 475 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: ended up dumping one another after the world reopens, so 476 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: we could see what happened. We could see a bit 477 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: of that. Well, if anyone does have any more goss. 478 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Our dms are always open, So Kerrie, what was your news? Oh, 479 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: Burger broke up with me on a post it on 480 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: a post it? Uh huh uh huh, Yep, read it 481 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: and weep. My friends, Sammy Robinson has returned to YouTube 482 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: after a ten week hiatus to reveal she's ready for 483 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: a Hot Girl summer vlog comes amid rumors Sammy and 484 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: alleged boat Jordan Simmy are no longer together. Kay, what 485 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: happened in this blog? Well, let's just take it back 486 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: to last week, because we were discussing that Sammy and 487 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Jordan had split. Now, their relationship has never been confirmed, 488 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: but we've been getting a lot of dms. We've been 489 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: putting the pieces together, and Sammy announced last week on 490 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: an Instagram story that she was single, and Jordan announced 491 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: on his podcast that he had just broken up with someone. 492 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: So it seems like the timelines are fitting together now. 493 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: I do think that this relationship was very much a 494 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: rebound because Sammy only I think it was just before 495 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Lockdown broke up with her long term boyfriend, Nick Wheatley. 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like it hasn't been a great time 497 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: for Sammy it's really hard, I suppose going through a 498 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: really serious heartbreak and then having a bit of a 499 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: kick in the guts when you break up with someone else. 500 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: So in Sammy's recent vlog, she did open up a 501 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: little bit more about her single life, and she apologized 502 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: to her subscribers for being absent, and she said that 503 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: she'd been going through a lot of life change. She 504 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: said she'd been in a state of limbo and that 505 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: things had been weird and crazy and that she needed 506 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: time to process things. Let's take a listen to what 507 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: else she said. 508 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: I still feel like I'm just not really to bespeak 509 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: about things, if that makes sense. So I'd rather just 510 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: kind of hang out with you guys and vlog with 511 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: you guys. I feel like we're sort of entering that 512 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: next stage of after heartbreak, after a bit of loneliness 513 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: and quite stressful circumstances were coming out. You know, there's 514 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: some live end of the tunnel. 515 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: The vlog really then did end up turning into an 516 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: ad for cotton on bikinis, but I felt like it 517 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: was the perfect fuck you to Jordan see me, to 518 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: see what he's missing out on. Did you guys see 519 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: she did cause a little bit of controversy on an 520 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Instagram story because she posted an adorable photo of a 521 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: dog's Nala and Simber, and in the background you could 522 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: see someone in bed with their leg oh yes, and 523 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: followers jump to conclusions thinking it was Jordan or I 524 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: suppose another guy, and she had to put up on 525 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: her Instagram story confirming that's just my sister's leg. In 526 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: the background, the dogs are on her bed. It is 527 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: nice to see Sammy and her sister living together. I 528 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: feel like they're going to have so much fun in 529 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: that little apartment. I just want to know who's now 530 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: living in that amazing room at Sammy's parents' house, because 531 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: remember when Sammy first started vogging, she had it was 532 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: like a loft or something with her Yeah, and then 533 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: the sister moved in, which lucky family member now has this? 534 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: Could I possibly rent there if I go it? 535 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 536 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: I was going to say maybe their parents are renting 537 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: it out as an Airbnb. I still can't get over 538 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: how incredible their view of the Sydney Harbor Bridge is 539 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: from that balcony or wherever they are. She always manages 540 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: on New Year's to have this incredible shot of her 541 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: making out with Nick. With the fireworks going on, I 542 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: wonder what the post will be this year. You only 543 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: realize how expensive Sammy's family house must be when you 544 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: start watching lux listening and she's got that other one 545 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: in the Northern Beaches, that holiday house like the Palm 546 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Beach or something that looks amazing easily her parents do 547 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, back to what Sammy said in 548 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: the video, did it disturb anyone else that she said 549 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: that she would be such an awkward single person? Because 550 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe. I'm so glad that 551 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: I am not single, because I'd hate to be, you know, 552 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: on the dating market with Sammy Robinson out there. Forgive 553 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: me for trying to clash up this place, for trying 554 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: to have the Yankees rich another strata of society that 555 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: might not watch Channel eleven. What the hell are you doing? 556 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: I am eating my dessert? How do you eat it 557 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: with your hands? This week, Shannie Grimman took us behind 558 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: the scenes of her swimwear's biggest launch ever. From the onset, 559 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: it was clear this was a massive payday for the influencer. Kate, 560 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: You've got to tell us about Shanny and her friend's reaction. 561 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: So Shanny was spending the day. I think I'm trying 562 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: to work out what the connection this friend is if 563 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: she works for Shanni. Her name's Lisha. She seems to 564 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: be popping up in a few of her videos. She's 565 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: in her og videos because I don't know why. I 566 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: was watching one of Michael Finch's old videos and it 567 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: was when he moved into his apartment and that same 568 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: girl was over and she was putting together his outdoor 569 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: for so she must be an old friend of Sharni's 570 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: and Michael. Do you think that Sharanny has distanced herself 571 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: with Chloe because they did seem to be getting quite 572 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: close before all of this anti vax stuff happened. Just 573 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: talking about old friends. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. 574 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: I've seen them liking each other stuff. But then again, 575 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Chini promoting the vaccine or that she's 576 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, so I'm not sure. Well, anyway, this friend, Lisha, 577 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: she is a really good friend because I've got to 578 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: say she was so excited for Shany. So the vlog 579 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: started out with Sharnie saying how anxious she was about 580 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: this launch. So they were launching a new range of 581 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: red swimwear, and she said she'd actually pop some anti 582 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: anxiety medication earlier in the day and she was just 583 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: feeling really jittery about the things. And she showed herself 584 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: filming some Instagram content for when the sale went live. Now, 585 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: the vlog went on to show Shanni and Lisha sitting 586 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: in Charnie's lounge room and they had the computer up 587 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: and Sharni had just sent out an edium promoting the 588 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: pre sale. Now, it was kind of interesting to see 589 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: that Sharni does all of those things. She said that 590 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: this week she had been answering all the customer emails 591 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: and next week she was actually getting an employee in 592 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: to do that. So basically the pre launch email was 593 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: sent out and suddenly Sharne's phone was just blowing up, 594 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: and it was quite funny. There was this coin noise, 595 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: like as if when every sale went through, this coin 596 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: noise would be made, and Lisha's like, are they the sales? 597 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: And then basically the whole line then went on public 598 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: sale and her friend was just going nuts over how 599 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: many people were on the site. We didn't get to 600 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: see it, but it kind of made me feel sick. 601 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: How much money Shanny would have made Let's stro to 602 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: a clip of Sharnie and her friend Lisha flipping out 603 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: over the sales. Oh cold, I'm cold, We're my nervous. 604 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure another one. 605 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you hear the Let's go? 606 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: It's so look at all the people. Wait, is that 607 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: the map of where people were lying? Yeah, in the world. 608 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: So we have Australia and then we have New Zealand. 609 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Oh wait, let's see if there's anyone overseas. 610 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: Hello from America. 611 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so fully shit, someone just bought four pieces. 612 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I do remember seeing something quite similar on one of 613 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: Chloe and Mitch's vlogs. It was when they dropped one 614 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: of Zep's line. And I also do remember hearing that 615 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: noise in the background of one of Mitch Third's videos 616 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: when all the sales for his drink bottles were coming through. 617 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: It must be an absolutely incredible feeling. It is kind 618 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: of good to hear though, that Shanny was a little 619 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: bit nervous, because I would assume such a big influencer, 620 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: she would feel really assured that her fans when it's 621 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: just going to go on and you know, buy all 622 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: of the bathers. But it is quite nice to see 623 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: that they are human and are concerned about that sort 624 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: of thing. It was good from the perspective that you 625 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: can see that she's very hands on with her brand, 626 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: and in the comments under the YouTube, people were so 627 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: happy for her. But for me, I kind of sick 628 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: thinking about how much of a stranglehold influencers have on 629 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: the retail industry, and particularly fast fashion. I have seen 630 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: that Shannie has brought in a few eco friendly things 631 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: to her brand. It's hard to actually comment because we 632 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: don't know where Shanni gets her bays on, but I 633 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: do know where you're coming from. I think for anybody 634 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: that's gone to UNI and studied a degree and has 635 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: had to work their way up, it is sort of 636 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: confronting to see somebody earning so much money in one hit. 637 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: But then again, we are so lucky to live in 638 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: this world where anybody can start a business and become successful. 639 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I think the thing that frustrates me a little bit 640 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: is the fact that Shanne posts so irregularly, so it 641 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: seems like she only puts out a YouTube video when 642 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: she has something to push and promote, so it doesn't 643 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: really feel like a genuine connection anymore. I tend to 644 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: agree with you, Sophie, and that's why I was so 645 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: surprised that this was the most successful drop that she's 646 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: had in terms of sales, because I do feel like 647 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: she's a little bit irrelevant these days. Back in the day, 648 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: she was probably Australia's favorite influencer and now she doesn't 649 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: really upload that much content. It is interesting timing because 650 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, Shanie answered questions on her 651 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: Q and A and people ask whether she is on 652 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: the hunt for a house and she confirmed that she 653 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: is looking for a house currently to buy, and maybe 654 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: this is going to be a bit of the house deposit. 655 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you 656 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: so much for listening to today's episode. 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