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Speaker 1: She's on the Money.

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Speaker 2: She's on the Money.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to a very special bonus episode of

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want

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Speaker 3: financial freedom. My name's Joanna Fleming, the beauty editor and

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Speaker 3: co host of Ajoor Beauty's podcast, Beauty IQU Censored, and

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Speaker 3: I'm joined today by my co host, Hannah First and

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Speaker 3: your finance friends Victoria Devine and Georgia King. Now, we're

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Speaker 3: experts on all things beauty and you may have heard

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Speaker 3: us before on our Beauty IQ un Censored podcast, and

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Speaker 3: today we're joining forces with She's on the Money to

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Speaker 3: answer your burning beauty on a budget questions so we

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Speaker 3: can hopefully come away with a greater understanding of where

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Speaker 3: we should be spending more money when it comes to

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Speaker 3: beauty and where we can afford to save some money.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a little bit of a relaxed Q and

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Speaker 3: a we might go a little bit rogue here, who

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Speaker 3: really knows. In traditional She's on the Money style, Georgia

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Speaker 3: King will ask our questions today and we will do

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Speaker 3: our best to answer them. Now, I'm going to hand

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Speaker 3: the mic over to Victoria Divine. Victoria, Hello, jo Anna.

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Speaker 2: Hello, for those of you who haven't met Joanna. She

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Speaker 2: started her career working in marketing and admin with plastic

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Speaker 2: and cosmetic surgeons while studying journalism. Like our friend Georgia King,

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Speaker 2: so she has a very deep understanding of skincare and

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Speaker 2: of professional treatment. She's been in the beauty industry for

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Speaker 2: almost eight years and has been with a Door for

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Speaker 2: almost four years now. Our other friend here is Hannah

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Speaker 2: and she is the glorious co host of Adoor Beauties podcast,

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Speaker 2: and Hannah is a Door's resident beauty newbie. Before working

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Speaker 2: with a Door, Hannah was traveling the world with just

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Speaker 2: one tube of JURLEYK moisturizer, washed her face with water

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we can all relate to and how times

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Speaker 2: have changed. Friends. Now, just like me, she's an absolute

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Speaker 2: serum addict, and again, just like me, is probably Aspect

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Speaker 2: Skincare's number one fan. As Joe said before, these legends

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Speaker 2: are joining us to help make sense of the beauty

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Speaker 2: messas you guys may have found yourselves in. So, without

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Speaker 2: further aduce, let's jump straight into our questions. Georgia King,

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Speaker 4: Hello, Thank you Joe, you did way too good a

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Speaker 4: job of that intro. I feel like I may be

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Speaker 2: I would love to be able to say that I

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Speaker 2: I just don't think my tiny podcast is up for that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not very good at numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, But let's like get into the

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more beauty savvy. I'm so excited

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Speaker 4: So all of these questions came from our community as well,

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Speaker 4: and there are quite a few here, so we will

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Speaker 4: dive straight in, Ladies. The first one we have is

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Speaker 4: what skincare items should you invest in and which ones

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Speaker 4: should we choose the cheaper option for.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a good question. I like this question. I

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Speaker 3: get this a lot, actually, And the truth is that

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Speaker 3: So your cleansers and your SBF there's always cheaper options

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Speaker 3: of those things. Your cleanser is on your face for

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Speaker 3: even your sun sense ones are great. You don't necessarily

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Speaker 5: I said the exact same thing was I said that

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm actually so excited to hear that, because I've

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Speaker 2: very very excited to hear that. And also on cleanser,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I spend a fair bit of money on cleanser.

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Speaker 3: I buy like a fifty dollars cleanser, but the truth

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Speaker 4: Okay, So second question, ladies, do we really need a

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Speaker 3: I don't think you necessarily need a different moisturizer for

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Speaker 3: you'll find that body moisturizes or lotions are a mixture

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Speaker 3: Finding a moisturizer that you love is actually quite challenging.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm not gonna stop using Fighter Stat nine.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no neither. Don't you worry. But you and

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Speaker 2: I both Also you said something that a skincare junkie

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Speaker 3: So for anyone who isn't sure what a cosmeceutical is,

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Speaker 3: Basically the name comes from a blend of pharmaceutical and cosmetic.

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Speaker 3: So essentially, a cosmeceutical is something that you would find

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Speaker 3: It's all about getting results in the skin. So they

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, would you say it, Joe, Like, if you had

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Speaker 4: pick one or the other, where are you spending your money?

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Speaker 1: Therem I could adds to her.

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Speaker 4: So next question for you ladies, is it really necessary

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Speaker 4: to replace products at their use by dates, so like

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Speaker 4: when a muscara or moisturizer says used by three months

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Speaker 3: So there's no point in your using it after that, really,

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Speaker 3: because you're putting something on your skin that isn't really

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Speaker 5: Joe and I both say these is that mascara is

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Speaker 5: That's right, Joe's pantheonoles. Yeah, so vitamin B three. It

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Speaker 2: I kind of love that because that's like a money win.

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Speaker 2: It's going to do the same job. It'll get rid

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Speaker 2: I literally have it sitting beside me because my friends

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Speaker 5: I turn up to meetings with sheet masks. I turned

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we don't. We don't do that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I send my team skincare, but I've never actually said

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Speaker 2: I'm so here for that to it.

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Speaker 4: Just on the masks, guys, I actually don't think I've

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Speaker 1: Have you sorry? Have you even been in lockdown?

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Speaker 4: It's still in my room. But so how regularly are

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Speaker 4: once a day, once a year. Never?

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Speaker 2: Great recommendation. Great recommendation because I also want to give

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Speaker 2: myself more permission to do more.

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Speaker 1: Sheet This is your permission, thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: But also the idea that we'll have been one day

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Speaker 2: again suit maybe so just to really attract you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, moving on now to budget friendly sunscreens that don't

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Speaker 4: feel greasy or heavy. We mentioned earlier. There's quite a

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Speaker 4: few that are affordable, but what are your go tos?

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Speaker 3: Well, my personal go tos aren't necessarily what we'd say

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Speaker 3: are affordable. I don't think how.

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Speaker 2: Do I vote them, although I want to hear them

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Speaker 2: all and we'll talk about affordable and not affordable, like

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Speaker 2: do you have a favorite though shes spill the beans

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Speaker 2: come on.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but I this is the one thing that

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Speaker 5: I can't go budget on is my sun's screen because

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Speaker 5: I'm like, like you said, Victoria, I'm super fussy about

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Speaker 5: texture and finish. I've tried pretty much every sunscreen under

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Speaker 5: the sun, and it's such a personal thing sunscreen. So

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Speaker 5: I actually think, instead of saving on the SBF, why

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Speaker 5: don't you have your SBF be your moisturizer and your

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Speaker 5: primer as well. Ultraviolet do skin screens which have skincare

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Speaker 5: benefits and they work with with your makeup too, so

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Speaker 5: I think that is like a good option. I think

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Speaker 5: they're forty they're forty two dollars, but that's your moisturizer

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Speaker 5: and your SBF and your primer all in one.

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Speaker 1: So I use their Supreme Screen. Yeah, so I do win.

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Speaker 2: That's li fifteen bucks per product. That's pretty much Priceline prices.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're getting the quality you will, I assure you,

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Speaker 5: like if you haven't used Ultraviolet Supreme Screen like it is.

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Speaker 5: Everyone that I speak to that's tried it, like, can't

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Speaker 5: go back once you go.

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Speaker 2: I've seen yeah, once I've seen all of the reviews online.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to order some because the

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Speaker 2: people that do use it, it's like a cult item. When

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Speaker 2: it first came out, I tried to order it and

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Speaker 2: it was sold out on their website. And now I

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Speaker 2: think the hype hasn't died down, but they've probably been

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Speaker 2: able to provide more product. I should actually order it

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Speaker 2: because I'm such an advocate of wearing sunscreen twenty four

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Speaker 2: seven or when you're even going near a window. So no,

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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be one of my team.

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Speaker 5: You won't well with this one. You won't feel like

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Speaker 5: you're wearing green. You'll feel like you're wearing a really

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Speaker 5: nice moisturizer. It's beautiful, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it smells nice as well.

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Speaker 5: So this is the thing for me. I don't want smell,

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Speaker 5: I don't want taste. I don't want it to smell

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Speaker 5: or feel or look like sunscreen. I just want it

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Speaker 5: to be like a moisturizer. And this one feels like

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Speaker 5: a really nice moisturizer. This is my aspect Fighter stuff.

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Speaker 5: This is my version.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you guys are going to make my

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Speaker 2: skincare routine incredibly expensive because I've got my Spider stat

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Speaker 2: and I've also got my Budget Cancer Council sunscreen, which

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Speaker 2: I currently like, and I'm going to try a more

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Speaker 2: expensive sunscreen. And we just like slowly upping the ante

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Speaker 2: and having a little bit of lifestyle creep within my

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Speaker 2: beauty skin care range. So look, I'm not mad about it,

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Speaker 2: but like I probably need to control myself.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing like an investment in skincare, though, at least

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Speaker 3: when you're investing in skincare, you know it's a long

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Speaker 3: term investment. Just to put a little finance talk in there.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: This is so Raley. No, I love it.

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Speaker 5: Or Joe and I always talk about because we we're

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Speaker 5: like always conscious of I guess prices when we talk

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Speaker 5: about things on the podcast, we always say cost per use.

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Speaker 5: So like if you invest in it, if you invest

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Speaker 5: in like a really good electrical item and it's going

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Speaker 5: to cause less damage on your hair, like it's a

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Speaker 5: cost per use.

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Speaker 1: I always think about it like that, just like a

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Speaker 1: cost per waar.

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Speaker 2: I think that that is absolutely fair. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: take it and I'm going to run with that another

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Speaker 2: question before we justify ourselves out of it.

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Speaker 1: Do okay?

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Speaker 4: So which products are essential in a typical beauty routine,

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Speaker 4: which order do we put them on in? And what

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Speaker 4: does a morning versus nighttime routine look like? So quite

518
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Speaker 4: a big question, so many guests.

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Speaker 3: Georgia Kings, that is a pretty big question. But I

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Speaker 3: think it really needs to come down to what your

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Speaker 3: needs are for your skin. I tend to avoid posting

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Speaker 3: my exact skincare routines because I don't want people to

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Speaker 3: go out and purchase everything that I use thinking that

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Speaker 3: their skin is going to need the same stuff that

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Speaker 3: Midan does because it's not always the case.

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to look like you like every product

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Speaker 2: under the sun to look like you, and like if

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Speaker 2: you post you just routine promise that goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I just get a lot of people saying like, oh,

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Speaker 3: can you post more of your routines because they want

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Speaker 3: to buy everything that I'm using, And I'm sure the

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Speaker 3: same goes for you, Huna. A lot of people want

533
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Speaker 3: to know exactly what you're using, but they may not

534
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Speaker 3: necessarily have the same skin type or concerns that you do,

535
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Speaker 3: so the products that you use really should come down

536
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Speaker 3: to what your concerns are and what your skin type is,

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Speaker 3: and you can be as basic or as complex as

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Speaker 3: you want to be, depending on your budget. As we

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Speaker 3: said earlier, like with the Ordinary, you can buy six

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Speaker 3: products from their range and that'll probably cost you under

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Speaker 3: fifty bucks and you'll still see some really really good

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Speaker 3: results and be taking care of your skin. Or you

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Speaker 3: can spend five hundred dollars on a cosmeceutical routine and

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Speaker 3: still have amazing results on your skin. And it just

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Speaker 3: really is personal preference as to what you use. In

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Speaker 3: a general sense with ingredients or products, I would be

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Speaker 3: using your antioxidants and vitamin c's in the morning with

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Speaker 3: your SBS, and then in the evening using your resurfacing

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Speaker 3: acids like your AHAs and glycolic acids and retinols at

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Speaker 3: night because they tend to make you a bit more

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Speaker 3: sensitive to the sun, so keep those at night, put

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Speaker 3: your vitamin c's in the morning with your SBF, and

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Speaker 3: anything else can kind of be relatively flexible, like your

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Speaker 3: hyaluronic acids and your vitamin BES can be used at

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Speaker 3: both times of the day.

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Speaker 2: I also have a question to just like weasele in here.

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Speaker 2: I've heard and I know this is true, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know which one of it it is. But what

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Speaker 2: skin care products can't we mix together? Are there like

560
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Speaker 2: some nightmare matches made in hell? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's more just around what's going to cause irritation on

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Speaker 3: the skin. So mixing your acids like AHA's with retinol

563
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Speaker 3: in most skin types will cause a little bit of irritation. However,

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Speaker 3: in some skins that are a bit thicker or they're

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Speaker 3: really accustomed to active ingredients, you could probably get away

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Speaker 3: with using those two together, and then probably avoiding your

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Speaker 3: vitamin c's with your retinols as well, because they are

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Speaker 3: both highly stimulating ingredients on the skin. So using your

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Speaker 3: vitamin C in the morning is that's a better time

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Speaker 3: to use vitamin C anyway, But splitting those up at

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Speaker 3: different times of the day. But there really isn't much

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Speaker 3: Elsey you can't used together, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: All right, We're getting to the end now, guys. So

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Speaker 4: question eight, what are the best value for money brands

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Speaker 4: that are also cruelty free? Because that did come up

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Speaker 4: quite a bit in the thread on our Facebook group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously the ordinary are up there. You'd actually

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Speaker 3: be surprised by how many brands are cruelty free.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: A lot of our favorite cosmeceutical brands are cruelty free,

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Speaker 3: Alpha h asap aspect, a lot of our Australian brands are.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got brands like Walida, which I love,

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Speaker 3: their skin food, Doctor Browners I use to wash my brushes,

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Speaker 3: but that's like a multi use castile soap. Grown Alchemist

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Speaker 3: is great as well, Hannah, did you have any.

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Speaker 5: Let's say, yeah, I had Salt by Hendrix was one.

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Speaker 5: That's another Aussie brand, yet one that I was going

588
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Speaker 5: to say that's actually look, it's not like the ordinary

589
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Speaker 5: price point. But Biology is a really good one because

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Speaker 5: their whole philosophy is you only need their one serum.

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Speaker 5: This is a really foreign concept for me when I

592
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Speaker 5: first heard it. But you just need one serum and

593
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Speaker 5: you don't actually put a moisturizer over the top, you

594
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Speaker 5: just use your SPF.

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking to pare back your routine, I.

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Speaker 5: Think Biology is a really good one that is also

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Speaker 5: cruelty free.

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Speaker 2: I love that idea, but you could not convince me

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Speaker 2: to get rid of my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we said. We spoke to one of

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Speaker 3: the founders and we were like, yeah, no, that's not

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Speaker 3: gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: No, I use them for travel.

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Speaker 5: For travel, it's really good because you only need to

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Speaker 5: take one serial when you travel.

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Speaker 2: That's actually quite Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it does fit into my routine in some which way. Yeah. Again,

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Speaker 2: Cold Dead Hands pried out.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like we know the answer to this

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Speaker 4: next question. But is it worth spending money on cosmaceutical

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Speaker 4: brands like Victoria Johan Hannah's favorite aspect?

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, yes it is. But that's the background

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Speaker 3: that I've come from, and I've been using cosmeceuticals since

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Speaker 3: I was eighteen. I'm twenty seven now, so I still

618
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Speaker 3: looks eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Guys, if the results don't speak for them matter now

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Speaker 2: Joe looks twelve.

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Speaker 3: I really do believe in cosmeceuticals, and some of these

622
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Speaker 3: brands just put so much effort into formulating these amazing

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Speaker 3: products that have such an amazing impact on the skin.

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Speaker 3: I think when it comes to price point, though, Cosmeceuticals

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Speaker 3: aren't in reach for everybody, and that's a real shame

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Speaker 3: because they are amazing products. But that's where brands like

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Speaker 3: The Ordinary come in and can kind of meet you halfway.

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Speaker 3: But as we said before about The Ordinary, they're isolated ingredients,

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Speaker 3: so you might be having to buy five of their

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Speaker 3: serums for one cosmeceutical serum to get the same kind

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Speaker 3: of ingredient mix. So that's kind of how I would

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Speaker 3: frame my answer to that without saying how much I

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Speaker 3: really love cosmeceuticals, Manna, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, it's personal preference. Just for myself.

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Speaker 5: I've seen incredible results using brands like ASPN Aspect, and

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Speaker 5: I think for me, I find that I get less

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Speaker 5: irritation from using those products. And I also did skin

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Speaker 5: scans pre and post starting on like a whole new

639
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Speaker 5: Aspect routine because I had very very bad sun damage

640
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Speaker 5: and I was really blown away by the results. But

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Speaker 5: what I would say is the best ingredient that you

642
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Speaker 5: can use for anything like sun damage or anti aging

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Speaker 5: is SBF. So I think the thing that we've reached, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think the thing that Joe and I have learned all.

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Speaker 5: The thing I learned is that of all the ingredients

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Speaker 5: that you should be using, you need SBFC number one.

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Speaker 3: So there's absolutely no point at all in using cosmeceuticals

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Speaker 3: if you're not using an SBF daily. Yeah, there's zero point.

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Speaker 3: You're just throwing money down.

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Speaker 5: You're not protecting your face from the harsh Australian sun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the same day.

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Speaker 3: You're looking a little bit guilty.

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Speaker 2: Over prevention is better than having a yes for it.

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Speaker 2: But Joanna, I actually do want to go back to

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Speaker 2: a point that you made before that was really important

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Speaker 2: to me and probably to the greater shees on the

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Speaker 2: money community, and that is that this stuff is sometimes

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Speaker 2: not accessible by everybody and this is such a luxury

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Speaker 2: to have. And whilst we're talking about you know, loving

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Speaker 2: our moisturizer and stuff like that does not mean it

661
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Speaker 2: is expected that absolutely everybody goes out and has a

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Speaker 2: beauty routine. Like, if you're interested in this, then fantastic,

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Speaker 2: but if you're not, it is actually a really privileged

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Speaker 2: position for us to be in to be able to,

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Speaker 2: you know, spend our income on beauty and skincare, when

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Speaker 2: that's a privilege denied to a lot of people. So

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to point out that we are you know,

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Speaker 2: we're all on this page together, and like Hannah, Joanna,

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Speaker 2: Georgia and I have had this conversation before where we

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Speaker 2: just know that we are so lucky to be able

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Speaker 2: to have these conversations and buy these products. But I

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Speaker 2: would hate for anyone in our community to think that

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Speaker 2: it is an essential to have this. It's not. It's

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Speaker 2: such a luxury. But yeah, that's just my little side

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Speaker 2: rand because she's on the Money podcast without a Victoria

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Speaker 2: Rant classic.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't know half of the words in

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Speaker 4: this question, so wish to me luck our product the

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Speaker 4: way to go, or in order to best take care

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Speaker 4: of our skin, should we be getting certain facials done

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Speaker 4: at intervals as well? I'm wondering if the fuss behind

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Speaker 4: led light therapy, microcurrent facials, and microderm abrasion are legit

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Speaker 4: and something we should be looking into if if taking

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Speaker 4: care of our skin on a budget is a priority

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Speaker 4: for us.

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Speaker 3: A great job reading that question out, quite a challenge

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Speaker 3: that one. My answer to this one is that if

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Speaker 3: you have as serious concern that you're trying to treat

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Speaker 3: and nothing topically is treating that. For example, if you

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Speaker 3: have like pitted scarring from acne, for example, you've got

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Speaker 3: quite serious pigmentation, or you suffer from rosasia like myself,

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Speaker 3: sometimes topical ingredients just can't effectively treat those concerns, So

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Speaker 3: it would be worth going and spending your money on

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Speaker 3: treatments as opposed to buying all these topical products hoping

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Speaker 3: they're going to do something when in reality they may

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Speaker 3: not achieve the result that you're looking for. But I

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Speaker 3: do I don't think that it's necessary. If you're keeping

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Speaker 3: up and maintaining a great routine and a consistent routine,

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Speaker 3: and you're using your skincare daily or using your SBF daily,

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Speaker 3: you can really maintain quite healthy skin. But it is

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Speaker 3: nice to have a treatment every once in a while,

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Speaker 3: Like everyone loves getting a facial occasionally. I'm sure, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it's not just us, but it really isn't something

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Speaker 3: that's absolutely necessary in a skincare routine. And a lot

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Speaker 3: of dermal clinicians and dermatologists will also say that a

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Speaker 3: professional treatment is nothing without the home care. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I would also say that there's also a ritual aspect

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Speaker 5: of all of this, because I think something that I've

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Speaker 5: learned in Lockdown is that I don't need a manicure

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Speaker 5: and pedicure, but I really effing want one and I

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Speaker 5: really miss it.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not like a massage, like I don't

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Speaker 1: need a massage.

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Speaker 5: I've got nothing physically wrong with my back, but I

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Speaker 5: want one so badly, and I've had chemical peels and facials,

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Speaker 5: and it's for me. It's like the experience, and like

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Speaker 5: that the experience part of it. And I really believe

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Speaker 5: in spending money on experiences. That's why I travel so much.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know whether that's against the advice of

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Speaker 5: this podcast, but that's just me.

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Speaker 2: I spend no, No, it aligns to the value. Everybody

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Speaker 2: I podcast will know that. I'll say, if it aligns

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Speaker 2: to your goals and values, like heck, yes, get it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So my one of my values is definitely that, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I love to spend my money on experiences. So whether

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Speaker 5: that's you know, going to get a massage or going

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Speaker 5: on a trip, whatever it is. Like, I think there's

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Speaker 5: like a ritual aspect to going to get a facial.

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Speaker 5: So I mean it's a yes, it's a yes from me,

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Speaker 5: but you're right, it's everyone's got goals and different values.

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Speaker 3: So and you can learn a lot about your skin

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Speaker 3: by just going and having a facial with a dermal

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Speaker 3: clinician like you. Often they have these observed scan as

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Speaker 3: or busier scanners, and Hannah and I've both had these

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Speaker 3: skin scans done. It tells you a lot about your

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Speaker 3: skin that you maybe didn't know because you can't see

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Speaker 3: that stuff on the surface. So it does help inform

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Speaker 3: your decisions on products that you might buy that are

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Speaker 3: going to be effective on your skin, instead of wasting

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Speaker 3: money on stuff that you don't need.

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Speaker 2: Georgia, do we have any other questions or do you

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Speaker 2: think that Joe and Hannah are going to leave us?

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Speaker 4: We have one more and I'm actually pretty keen to

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Speaker 4: know the answer as well, So don't leave us yet, ladies.

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Speaker 4: What is your suggestion for fine lines and wrinkles to

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Speaker 4: people who don't want botox? Is there a mystical magical

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Speaker 4: serum or cream out there to rescue us?

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Speaker 5: I think I should answer this show. Yeah, as someone

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Speaker 5: that gets botox, I'm going to say that there is

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Speaker 5: no mystical magical serum or cream. And what I would

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Speaker 5: say about botox is that, oh I don't. I just

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Speaker 5: want to be honest, I and that actually does work

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Speaker 5: in a way that is magical.

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Speaker 1: That does that make I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know how to say that, because what botox does it

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Speaker 5: actually relaxes the muscles, so the lines will like magically disappear.

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Speaker 5: What I always say to people that message me on

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Speaker 5: and they're like, oh my god, what are you using.

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Speaker 5: You've got like no wrinkles on your forehead, And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 5: I get botox, so I wouldn't want someone to look

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Speaker 5: at me and think that that's a serum doing it.

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Speaker 5: What cerums can do is really help up what I've noticed.

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Speaker 5: And we always go back to j Loo is j Loo.

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Speaker 5: Yes she might get whatever she gets, we don't know,

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Speaker 5: but she has beautiful skin texture, and like, I think

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Speaker 5: that that beautiful skin texture and the health of your skin,

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Speaker 5: mine in particular, has been.

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Speaker 1: Improved by the use of high quality skin care.

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Speaker 2: So I thought botox actually just like stopped you moving.

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Speaker 2: But you're saying it actually changes your skin texture as well, Like.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, botox doesn't change the texture of your skin, Joe.

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Speaker 5: Do you sort of know the technical It relaxes the muscles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So anything any anti wrinkle product will It's designed

775
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Speaker 3: to relax the area, so any dynamic lines or static

776
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Speaker 3: lines that are there when you're resting, it helps to

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Speaker 3: soften the appearance of them by relaxing the muscle. But

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Speaker 3: Hannah's saying, in terms of texture, that's where your skin

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Speaker 3: care comes in. And when you're seeing someone like Jalo

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Speaker 3: who's in her fifties and she's got this amazing beautiful

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Speaker 3: skin texture that's that can't be from botox or fillers,

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Speaker 3: which everyone loves to throw around like, oh Jlo must

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Speaker 3: get botox and fillers, So what if she wants to

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Speaker 3: get botox or Fillers's amazing? Who cares?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never understand why that's something I know. It's like,

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Speaker 2: oh cool, Like is she happy? Does yeah?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: Do I want to look like Jayla fifty? Yes? And

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Speaker 2: if you keep listening to these she's on the money

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Speaker 2: and adore Beauty IQ podcasts, you're gonna one look at

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Speaker 2: but to be as riches her, it's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 5: What I would say the big magic though, just really

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Speaker 5: quickly to finish off with the biggest, biggest magic, stay

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Speaker 5: out of the Sun and U fifty.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say exactly the same thing I

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Speaker 3: was going to say. My answer to that question was

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Speaker 3: gonna be yeha.

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Speaker 2: Is that our number one takeaway? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly there is nothing so our number one takeaway.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing else we can recommend.

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Speaker 5: More sun is the biggest cause of damage I believe

802
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Speaker 5: for your skin.

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Speaker 2: And is that like a money win because we won't

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Speaker 2: have to spend heaps and heaps on skincare and repairing

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Speaker 2: treatments when we're older if we just wear sun cream now, if.

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Speaker 5: You just stay out of the sun and where you're

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Speaker 5: a SPF in your twenties, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's all we have time for today, guys.

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Speaker 2: So Hannah, it's over to you.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Geordere, it's time now to wrap up the show.

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Speaker 3: Just before we head off, we'd like to acknowledge and

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Speaker 3: pay respect to Australia's Aboriginal and Torres Strait island are

814
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Speaker 3: people's the traditional custodians of lands, waterways and skies across Australia.

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Speaker 3: We thank you for sharing and caring for the land

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Speaker 3: on which we are able to learn. We pay our

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Speaker 3: respects to elders past and present and share our friendship

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Speaker 3: and kindness.

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Speaker 5: The advice shared on She's on the Money is general

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Speaker 5: in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's

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Speaker 5: on the Money exists purely for educational purposes and should

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Speaker 5: not be relied upon make an investment, financial, or beauty decision.

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Speaker 1: And we promised.

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Speaker 5: on the Money producer, who I've never met, putting it

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Speaker 5: all together.

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Speaker 2: We would so love it if you guys headed on

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Speaker 2: over to the Adore Beauty podcast, where these girls share

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Speaker 2: I think that's all we've got time for today. See

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Speaker 2: you next week friends. Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks