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Speaker 1: How it by the iHeartRadio app from ninety six air

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Speaker 1: VM to where Abbie you're listening today? This is Clezy

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Speaker 1: and Lisa's podcast Today, it's Clary Lisa here.

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Speaker 2: Because we need a bit of a break. We put

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Speaker 2: together some more of the bits and pieces from the

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Speaker 2: show you may not have heard the first time around

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Speaker 2: or you wanted to hear again.

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Speaker 3: As part of our Perth pub crawl.

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Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun with two of the

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Speaker 4: guys from Loaded Dice, Dick Haynes and Dave EMUs now

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Speaker 4: Loaded Dice formed in nineteen seventy four. You'd be one

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Speaker 4: of the earliest that we've spoken to. How did you

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Speaker 4: guys meet?

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Speaker 5: Well, Dave answered, nad and for a drummer, And as

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Speaker 5: I recall, we had a few good drummers come up.

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Speaker 6: Dave wasn't the best. I'm right here do so, but

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Speaker 6: Dave wasn't the best. But we had a manager.

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Speaker 5: The band to be going for about two months, and

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Speaker 5: we had the benefit of having a manager, and he said,

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Speaker 5: we'll be able to control this guy. And they've just

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Speaker 5: told me yesterday the only new one beat and that

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Speaker 5: happened to be the beat which agreed with all of

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Speaker 7: I just learned to count to twelve bar, so long

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Speaker 7: we did a Beatles song, and we did some Little

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Speaker 7: Richard and I'm going god, I can play three songs

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Speaker 7: around Chuck Berry all of that.

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Speaker 3: So we went along.

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Speaker 7: I answered the ad out of the Sunday Times and

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Speaker 7: Didn't know where where I was going. Found the place

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Speaker 7: set it up, started playing, and then I said, can

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Speaker 7: Monday just got my license. I sat around and I

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Speaker 5: One of who was James Baker, who ended up in

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Speaker 5: the Unluckily for him, or maybe luckily for him, his

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Speaker 3: The got up in one lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he came in looking like Brian Jones.

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Speaker 6: It was all in place, yeah, way back then.

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Speaker 7: Only ever found out later on that they got me

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Speaker 7: so we never got there day, No, we never got there.

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Speaker 7: We just kept we kept just playing twelve bars most

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Speaker 2: So they saw you with someone that could influence and

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Speaker 7: I was just sitting there and I watched the other drummers,

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Speaker 7: and then Tony, Fitzgibbon and Dick came up to me

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Speaker 2: The Dicets we had.

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Speaker 7: We had a lot of hardcore followers, but the Dicets

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Speaker 7: And we were working six days a week and then

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Speaker 5: One of the things about which was amazing on reflection

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Speaker 7: I've been listening to a lot of the interviews because

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Speaker 2: When we went to the car park, we.

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Speaker 7: Just put the keys in the car with the Bernie's

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Speaker 7: while some other bands were having funsies, the rest of

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Speaker 3: Burgers, saving a burger Bernie, I.

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Speaker 2: Love the dice out, So forty five years before Swifties.

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Speaker 6: More cle more Lisa, more podcasts soon.

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Speaker 2: Unless we know that music is therapeutic, very it's one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons nothing like it really the reasons why

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Speaker 2: you and I got into this gig so we could

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Speaker 2: play music and feel good. But sometimes it goes to

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Speaker 2: the next level and can actually help you not only

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Speaker 2: is pretty cool because US researchers have found at the

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Speaker 2: Medical College of Wisconsin they've studied the impact of singing

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Speaker 2: a variety of different songs and what it does to

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Speaker 2: actually singing, actually singing the song, singing your heart out,

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Speaker 2: and what it does to the blood vessels of older

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Speaker 2: people when relation to heart disease. Okay, Okay, so the

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Speaker 2: results show that those who regularly go have a crack

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Speaker 2: at Amazing Grace said, Amazing Grace, Yeah, I have to

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Speaker 2: Not that you're going to sound like Andrea Mindjee. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: And they basically measured how the healthy blood vessels around

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Speaker 2: when they sang Amazing Grace. They did work on other songs,

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Speaker 3: How about turned.

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Speaker 2: Down for what feel better? Already? Does that work? That's working?

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Speaker 2: That's working. Why didn't they test that in Wisconsin? Other

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Speaker 2: Dolly this one already cover version.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you know you.

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Speaker 8: Please don't take Mummy, Julie.

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Speaker 6: My Dolley.

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Speaker 2: Could you sing all day if you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Working on the heart would make you healthy in England

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Speaker 2: if you think about it, and some of a lot

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Speaker 2: English love to sing Neil Diamonds with Caroline That seems

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Speaker 3: Doesn't I do that at the football? I love that song.

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Speaker 2: And of course if you're in Australia, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what it does for your heart, but if you're singing

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Speaker 2: the horses, it means Darrel Breakway's got another gig.

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Speaker 3: And it's not going to make me live longer, funny thing.

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Speaker 3: It's going to shorten my life.

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Speaker 2: It will help Barrel with his super More Clezy More

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Speaker 2: Lisa More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 4: Whenever Leon Moriarty puts out a new book, I always

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Speaker 4: promise myself I am going to make it last.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to savor it a bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to scoff it down in a day.

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Speaker 4: And I started here one moment on Saturday, and I

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Speaker 4: one hundred pages to go, so I'm making progress, pretty good,

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Speaker 4: going Leon Moriarty is joining us now.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm welcome.

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Speaker 8: Good morning. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: It's so lovely to have you with us.

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Speaker 4: About the release of the new book Here One Moment,

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Speaker 4: And I say, I might be overthinking it, leone, but

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Speaker 4: I always think that when I get, you know, one

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan. Let's just get that out there.

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Speaker 4: And I read it so quickly that somehow I'm not

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Speaker 4: doing justice to you. You've toiled and you've worked, and

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Speaker 4: you've blood, sweat and tearsed over this book for ages,

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Speaker 4: and I can just do it in a night, do you.

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Speaker 8: Know what I mean? I know, I know, but I'm

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Speaker 8: a reader like that myself. I'm a very greedy reader reader.

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Speaker 8: I would defer my readers to take their time, because

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Speaker 8: it's strange when they say it's all done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well I am a bit this time. I

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Speaker 4: feel like I have made some progress. So the new

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Speaker 4: book Here One Moment, it raises questions about mortality. Would

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Speaker 4: you want to know when and how you're going to die?

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Speaker 4: And if you do know, would you try to change

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's right. So it's about a lady on a plane,

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Speaker 8: a normal domestic flight from Hobart to Sydney, and a

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Speaker 8: when they're going to die, and a lot of passengers

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Speaker 8: the plane. My American publisher wanted to make that clear

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Speaker 8: that it's not about a plane accident, and then most

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Speaker 8: then the first prediction comes.

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Speaker 2: True, leam, where do you get these ideas from? Where's

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Speaker 2: the inspiration for that? One? Just plucked from somewhere?

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Speaker 8: So I was actually on a flight myself, on the

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Speaker 8: exact same flight out of Hobart, and the youful thought

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Speaker 8: would one day die, And so I was it is true,

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Speaker 8: and I think we tried to pretend and it's not happening.

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Speaker 8: And I was looking at all the passengers and I

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Speaker 8: will you be the person whose life is unexpectedly cut short?

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Speaker 8: And then I thought, imagine if that information was available

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Speaker 4: Because a few people do get you know, they think

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Speaker 4: But for a few of them, it's not too far

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Speaker 4: in here one moment. Have you ever named a character

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Speaker 4: you've killed off in a book after someone you didn't

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Speaker 6: No, I hadn't.

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Speaker 8: I think that would be too obvious. I might take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Helen. And I've always been fascinated with

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Speaker 2: someone like yourself, like Lisa, You're read a hell of

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Speaker 2: a lot and you find the time. But we talk

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Speaker 2: to a lot of musicians who do fear that they've

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Speaker 2: been influenced by other people's use of the chords. Do

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Speaker 2: you sometimes write it about a character or a paragraph

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Speaker 2: or a chapter and ago, well, that's a bit too familiar.

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Speaker 2: I'll change that a bit.

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Speaker 8: Yes. I always worry if it comes too easily right.

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Speaker 8: So if I think, especially if I think of a

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Speaker 8: I assume that I took it from an episode of

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Speaker 8: Law and Order. I have to throw it away, and

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Speaker 8: I've heard it, as you said, musicians and also comedians.

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Speaker 8: I think if they think of a joke too easily,

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Speaker 8: they think maybe I'm taking that from somewhere.

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Speaker 5: A.

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Speaker 2: Little bit Law and Order.

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Speaker 4: Well, Lauren, to get most of their inspiration from TV

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Speaker 4: news and so on, it's all got to come from somewhere.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right exactly.

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Speaker 4: I know you've been on a grueling promotional tour and

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Speaker 4: so you might not get too much time to read

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Speaker 4: things yourself.

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Speaker 3: But have you read anything lately that you would recommend.

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Speaker 8: I'm reading the latest Kate Axington. I can't I don't

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Speaker 8: never remember the title, but it's a funny detective series

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Speaker 8: and I'm loving That's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okact love.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, I should be promoting my sister, My sister Nicola Murria.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, yes, your book out.

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Speaker 8: Just in case Nicholas.

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Speaker 2: Listening to the podcast after be not happy with the sister.

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Speaker 4: Next Sunday lunch, she's gonna have an angry look on

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Speaker 4: her face

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Speaker 8: And new show up, I know, Nicholas forget to get Kate,

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Speaker 8: Yeah crazy and Lisa Thinety