1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm sure that you've seen the news. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: Look, I've got to say I think it's been pretty 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: embarrassing for Australia, with the Victorian Premier Dan Andrews confirming 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: that the state's no longer going to host the Commonwealth 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: Games in twenty twenty six. 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Now he reckons the decision was made due to. 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: The costs of that blowout of up to seven billion 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: dollars for the twelve day event from an earlier estimate 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: of two point six billion dollars. Now many people are questioning, 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: here's mode of delivery for the Games, choosing to have 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: several events in regional Victoria rather than hosting them in 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: the already established facilities in the capital state. Now in 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: the capital, I should say, of the state. So it 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: is news that's well and truly shocked, I think, and 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: disappointed the sporting world. Now joining me in the studio 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: is the Northern Territories Olympic and Commonwealth Games gold medalist 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: noverpairis Good morning to you Nov. 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie Nova. 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you heard about this? 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: One of disbelief and yeah, quite shocked. 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: Phone was just running hot yesterday and then I had 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: a number of text messages about the commic girls. Oh 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: my god, I need to get on Twitter and find 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: out what's going on. And then saw Dan Andrews the 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 4: way he sort of tried to articulate the reason why 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: via Twitter, and I was like, Oh my god, that's 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: just crazy to think we're only two and a half 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: years out from it. Yeah. 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: Now, from an athlete's perspective, what kind of impact does 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: that have in terms of your preparation. You know a 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: lot of these athletes would not only be preparing for 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games, but they'd be then looking at the 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: World Championships, the Olympics, other things. 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: So what kind of impact does it have in terms 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: of that. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: Prep It definitely has a huge impact. 37 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 4: And I know myself, like having represent Austray for thirteen 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: years is nothing greater than having to run at a 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: major championships and tournament on your home country. 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's just the inspiration, it's giving back to 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: the community. 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: It's that little Australian girl a boy sitting there in 43 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: the stands and saying, oh my god, I want to 44 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: be like them. And the amount of people that I've 45 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: spoken to over the years came and watched we run 46 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: at the Sydney Olympics with. 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: You know, like of Kathy Freeman's, Patrick Johnson, you name it. 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: So I sort of feel and just looking at the 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: press releases that have come forward from all the sports 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: extremely disappointed because it does affect their preparation. But not 51 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: only that, but the opportunity to give back and to 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: you know, participate at the highest level in your own country. 53 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: It's such a big thing for the country, not only 55 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: in terms of sport, but in terms of everything that 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: it kind of brings in our pride in our nation. 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: And I guess too the fact that you know, in 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: country towns in particular, the amount of sporting champions that 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: have come out and it's an opportunity to bring sports 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: at the highest level to our regional So when Victoria 62 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: Dan Andrews last year or whenever it was, put his 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: hand up and said yes, we'll take this on, you know, 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: the sixth regional towns like, oh my god, this is fabulous, 65 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: and so they went away about their merry way. And 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: I guess he took it on the advisor. Looking at 67 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: the last two Commonwealth Games in Birmingham and also up 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: in the Gold Coast, where the costs were below two 69 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: billion dollars. And now you know, and I'm still very 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: connected this morning, Katie, and you're Nilsen politics. But I 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: guess where he was coming from as well. The expectations 72 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: those regional towns was that you had to have the 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: same level of security. So when you go to the 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: Olympic Games or most major championships, all the security everything's 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: in the one spot. But then you had to sort 76 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: of put the same costings and the same level of 77 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, expectations and all the places. 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: So what I guess what I heard you saying before. 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: It's the embarrassment. 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: You know, we've put a hand up and all of 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: a sudden, what does that look like going forward? If 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: we say we want a bid for something, Oh well, 83 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: Australia's pulled out before, and it's not just a Victorian thing, 84 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: it's a whole of Australia thing. 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's the way that other countries would be looking 86 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: at us. 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Right now, wouldn't they. 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: They wouldn't be going off the Victorian premiere and Victoria's 89 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: decided not to do this, they'd be going Australia has 90 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: pulled out of the Commonwealth Games. 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it's not like you said, it's Australia's pulled 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: out of the Commonwealth Games. And I guess from a 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: perspective like I can understand, you know, times are tough. 94 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: We're talking about recession. 95 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: People are just struggling to put food on the table, electricity, 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: you name it. 97 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: This is that's the harsh reality. 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: And not everyone loves sports, but majority of Australians do 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: love sports. 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: But I guess, you know. 101 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: We shouldn't have taken it on without doing the homework 102 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: to begin with. 103 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: That's what I reckon. Don't over promise and underdeliver. Do 104 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: it the other way around, you know, under promise and 105 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: over deliver. 106 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just it's it's been it has. 107 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: I think it's been embarrassing and it's come across that 108 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: way when you sort of look through some of the 109 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: commentary from athletes, you know, saying we can't believe that 110 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: this isn't going ahead. 111 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Do you think there's other options here? 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: Look, I think there are potentially other options. It's just 113 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: interesting to see Perth the mayor put his hand up 114 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: and then the premier knock that one on the head. 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: Other states have said no, but I sort of feel. 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: It's such a big part of sports in this country. 117 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: The Commonwealth Games. 118 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: It's obviously, you know, very different to the Olympics, you know, 119 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: and even in my understanding of the Olympics, it's around 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: four billion dollars to put on the Olympics when there's 121 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: you know, two hundred countries. So I don't know, you know, 122 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: you hear the head of the Commonwealth Games, Cheap CEO 123 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: come out and saying, well, we'll never given the opportunity 124 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: to look at alternatives. It was just at the ninth 125 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: hour this is happening, too bad, so said, it's not 126 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: going to go. So I guess from that perspective it's 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: really disappointing that no one could because at. 128 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: The end, we're all Australians. 129 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: We all need to come together and work out the 130 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: betterment of reputation, the betterment of athletes, the better of 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: you know, what we can do better to pride ourselves 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: that we are a sporting nation and let alone Victoria 133 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: being our sporting capital. So yeah, all these scenes are 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: in the mix and it'll be interesting to see what's 135 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: going to unfold. 136 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think a lot. 137 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: Of people are demanding answers to the questions that have 138 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: been put forward. 139 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: Now, what do you reckon about the property councilor come 140 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: out and said, you know, maybe the Northern Territory government 141 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: needs to at least look into whether we could be 142 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: an option. 143 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: Do you think that's a possibility. 144 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: It's interesting. We've got Howard Springs. 145 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: That's right, we can house more than half thousand athletes. 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: Say why not? 147 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: Because that's the thing if you look at the Sydney 148 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: Olympics the aftermath the athletes village became residential property, and 149 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: you know, we've got facilities. Why not why can't we 150 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: You know, whether it's a reduced amount of sports, I 151 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: don't know, because I think that was the other thing 152 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: is the conversations where more sports needed to be added 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: and the more sports that needed wanted to be added, 154 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: or that was the pie in the sky dream. 155 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: It costs me more. 156 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: So I think maybe that's something that you can look 157 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: at because you know, over if you look at the 158 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: history of the Commonwealth Games, there's about the same five 159 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: or six countries that are sort of always putting the hand. 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: Up to t hoosis. But they're the sports. 161 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: Loving countries that you know, one athletes who's competing is 162 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: another little kid's dream for the next ten years. So 163 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, with nine years looming for the the Brisbane 164 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: Olympic Games, this is something that certainly. 165 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: Would have been inspirational to our future generation. 166 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Really would have been. Now, what do you think that 167 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: it means as well? 168 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's going to be an impact 169 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: for the Northern territories? You know, I like for the 170 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Northern Territory in terms of any of our young territorians 171 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: or even Territorians right now that are at that level. 172 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: Oh look, absolutely funny enough, I was part of the 173 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: austron Olympic Committee with the Olympic Unleashed program up here 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: yesterday and we spoke to a number of future Territorians 175 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: who have dreams and aspiration in the high performance area. 176 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: So absolutely, you know, there's a saying as you can't 177 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: be what you can't see, but also having that touch contact, 178 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: you know. I remember I was all of thirteen years 179 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: old when I met Glennis Nunn when she came here 180 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: after the nineteen eighty four Olympics and I held that 181 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: Olympic gold medal. I said, oh, I want one of 182 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: these one day. So you know, when you can touch 183 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: and feel and look up to people and it's not 184 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: just the athletes to say, I mean, to win, to 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: go and represent your country is a big thing, but 186 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: to understand that athletes journey, you know, when it's the administration, 187 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people up here in the nothern 188 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: territory that have aspirations of coaching this administration or being 189 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: a volunteers. So many touch points around this, so you know, 190 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: it certainly is it's a big loss to the Australian community. 191 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: I understand the cost of living and pressures, but yeah, 192 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: it's I really feel for the you know, for Australians, 193 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 4: the sporting community and those regional towns who are now 194 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 4: miss out on you being able to showcase their communities. 195 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well so you reckon the Northern Territory, Mays. Should 196 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: we just have a look into it? 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely everything on the table. 198 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: I know that people will be out there saying, oh, 199 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: look we can't afford it, and you know we are 200 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: broken and all the rest of it, and I get that, 201 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: but I like, I'm a big believer in sport and 202 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: what it can do for young people, what it can 203 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: do for a country as well, and I just think 204 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: it's really disappointing that we as Australians have now. You know, 205 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: we're so well known for our sport and our love 206 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: of sport and everything to do with sport. For us 207 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: to now be the country that has given up the 208 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games, it is embarrassing. 209 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess too. 210 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: If you look at the World Cup now you know 211 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: it's tonight or tomorrow. The Matilda's they expecting ninety thousand 212 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: at their game is phenomenal. So if people say we're 213 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: not a sports loving country, they check yourself dead wrong