1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a big decision to make, Maybe you 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: are in the middle of trying to make one, or 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: perhaps you have some decisions coming up that are on 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: the horizon. But here's the thing about decision making. We 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: often give more weight to the big, shiny outcome, such 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: as being on stage speaking at an event, than we 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: do to all the hard work that gets us to 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: that outcome. So I'm going to be sharing a really 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: cool strategy that I was told during the week about 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: how we can make much better decisions. My name is 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: doctor Amantha Imba. I'm an organizational psychologist and the founder 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: of Behavioral science consultancy Inventium, and this is How I Work, 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: a show about how to help you do your best 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: work now before we get to decision making. I am 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: so excited to let you know that I'm going to 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: be doing a lot. I have show a live interview 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: for How I Work at the Melbourne Podcast Festival and 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: I would love to see you there. So the event 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: is on Saturday, July thirty one at two point thirty 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and I am going to be interviewing 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Breakfast Radio Extraordinaire Christian O'Connell. So in case you haven't 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: come across Christian or don't know about his background. He 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: was Britain's best known and most awarded breakfast radio presenter, 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: hosting his own top rating national breakfast shows and collecting 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: more industry awards than any other presenter. He was also 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: the youngest radio presenter ever to be inducted into the 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: UK Radio Hall of Fame. And then he moved to 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Australia when nobody knew him. Now cut to several years later, 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: he is the very successful host of Gold FM's breakfast Show. Now, 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of Christians. He is hilarious 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: and insightful and such a brilliant radio host, so I'm 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: so excited to be chatting to him. So we're going 33 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: to be talking about what actually goes on behind the 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: scenes of breakfast radio. We're going to be looking at 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Christian strategies for overcoming mental health challengers that have plagued 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: him in the very competitive world of commercial radio. We're 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: going to be looking at Christian wore a death watch, 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: which is a watch that reminded him whenever he looked 39 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: at it, how much longer he had to live. And 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about all things creativity, like, 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: where do his ideas come from? Because he needs a 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: lot of them. He's on air live for three hours 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: every single workday. So the show, it's going to be 44 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: recorded at the Jam Factory in Melbourne in South Yarra's 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: going to be super lovely and intimate, and I'm going 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: to be hanging around after the show to meet listeners 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: like you and have a chat and answer questions and 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to meet you. So search for a 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Melbourne Podcast Festival in Google and you can probably find 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: it that way. But the easiest thing to do is 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: follow the link in the show notes and book your 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: tickets today and all profits from the event are going 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: to charity. Okay, now I have a very cool tip 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: to share with you this week on the topic of 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: decision making. Now. I'm working on a book at the moment, 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: and I've been reaching out to past guests to see 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: what strategies they've been having success with since I had 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: them on the show. And I heard a really cool 59 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: and this week from John Zaratski otherwise known as Jay Z, 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: who is ex Google. So we used to work at 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Google Ventures, used to be a designer there, and he's 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: also the author of Best selling books, sprint and make time. 63 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: So John or Jay Z calls this strategy the iceberg. Yes, 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: So this is where it comes from. When we're making 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: a decision about whether to do something, so whether to 66 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: take a new job, or work on a project, or 67 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe accept a speaking engagement, we tend to 68 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: focus on the part of the decision. There's kind of 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: like the visible and exciting part. It might be you know, 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: the glory or the praise we'll get for when we 71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: deliver the project, or you know, when we're volunteering, the 72 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: thanks that we'll get at the end of the role. 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: So we essentially like focus on the glimmering peak of 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: the iceberg that sits above the water. But the thing 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: about icebergs is that most of them, most of the 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: iceberg is hidden well beneath the surface, and that represents 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: the bulk of the commitment. So the thing is, when 78 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: we're trying to make a decision about something, we can't 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: get to that exciting, visible, shining part without actually doing 80 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: the rest of it, which generally looks like hard work. So, 81 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: for example, something I have to make a lot of 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: decisions about accepting speaking gigs. Most speaking gigs that I 83 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: do are paid and they are simply part of my 84 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: job and I love them. But I also get asked 85 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: to speak for free a lot. And you know, it's 86 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: kind of easy to focus on the exciting part of that, 87 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: of you know, being on stage and having an impact 88 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: and you know, getting good feedback after the gig. But 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: the thing is a lot of preparation and hard work 90 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: goes into and before every single speaking gig, which is 91 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: really hard to remember at the time when I'm trying 92 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: to make a decision. So certainly we want to think 93 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: about the tip of the iceberg, but to use the iceberg, yes, 94 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: we need to flip it, and we need to think 95 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: about the full iceberg. You're not just saying yes to 96 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: that speaking engagement or to that glory that comes when 97 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you deliver the project. We are saying yes to the 98 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: whole kitten kaboodle, which often means a whole lot of 99 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: hard work. So you might want to reflect on, you know, 100 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: what are some of the icebergs that you have said 101 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: yes to in the past, And you know, when you're 102 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: thinking about whether to say yes or no to something, 103 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: remember to look below the surface and look at the 104 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: full iceberg. So that is the Iceberg. Yes, tip, and 105 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: thank you to jay Z for sharing that with me. 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: That is it for today's show. If you are enjoying 107 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: How I Work, as I said, I'd love to see 108 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: you at the Melbourne Podcast Festival. I hope you can 109 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: come super excited to meet listeners of the show. And 110 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: if you are not a subscriber or follower of How 111 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I Work, you might want to hit subscribe or follow 112 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: wherever you're listening to this too. 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