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Speaker 1: Do not adjust your radio.

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Speaker 2: Sea's back again today, second day.

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Speaker 1: In a row.

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Speaker 2: Corn that Sculus the Lord Mayor of Dawa.

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Speaker 3: People, we'll start talking about us, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Well, Corn, we know that last night we'd spoken yesterday

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Speaker 2: of course about the situation with the RV park, and

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Speaker 2: then we know that the council had that vote last

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Speaker 2: night or with the council councilors. So essentially you're wanting

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Speaker 2: to trial a twenty space site in a bid to

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Speaker 2: help address some of the situations that we got with,

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Speaker 2: you know, with bad behavior down there, but also in

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Speaker 2: an effort to kind of get the area moving. I

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Speaker 2: would think, how did it go last night?

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Speaker 3: Conn?

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Speaker 4: Well? We actually discussed a bandilla issue broader than the

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Speaker 4: RV because the government has promised three million dollars that

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Speaker 4: just before the last electures.

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Speaker 3: As you remember very well.

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Speaker 4: Now we have promised also to put a dog puck

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Speaker 4: there there and of course the idea of the RV

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Speaker 4: as well. So yesterday we decided, starting from beginning, we're

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Speaker 4: going to have a master plan for the whole but

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Speaker 4: Della Bitch area, so we know where to put the

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Speaker 4: three million dollars. What are we're going to put there?

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Speaker 4: The dog park not negotiable. It will happen with part

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Speaker 4: of any development hasens there. And then of course with

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Speaker 4: the IRV. Well, with the IRV we had some complications

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Speaker 4: because of the information we see from deeple regarding planning.

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Speaker 4: The first is you can't do it. The other one

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Speaker 4: is if you want to do it, because planning restrictions.

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Speaker 4: If you want to do it, you have to ask

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Speaker 4: to change the government to change the town planning or

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Speaker 4: that will take about six months, if not more. You

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Speaker 4: can ask the minister to give an exception to actually

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Speaker 4: do the trial for three months.

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Speaker 3: We thought, well, we want to.

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Speaker 4: Do the trial because we want to actually try something

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Speaker 4: to see how can we activate the place and how

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Speaker 4: can you get rid of the undissociate behavior issues that

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Speaker 4: happen there because despite of the fact that some people think, oh, really,

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Speaker 4: there are really nice people going there, Well, the problem

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Speaker 4: is the nice people that are going there, they create

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Speaker 4: ad dissociate problems.

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Speaker 3: To shut an.

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Speaker 4: Extent that the local member had to actually find a

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Speaker 4: million dollars from the government to put patrols in that area.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is, if it's all just nice

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Speaker 2: people there, well, is that just regarded as camping and

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Speaker 2: if people are allowed to camp there, well why can't

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Speaker 2: you have our vesa exactly.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing is if the people are so nice,

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Speaker 4: what do we have digence people now complaining about that behavior?

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Speaker 3: Now it So we decided to actually give it a go.

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Speaker 3: We decided to do it.

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Speaker 4: But in order for us to go ahead and the

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Speaker 4: expression of interest, we will be writing the Minister ask

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Speaker 4: for an exception so we can run the three months

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Speaker 4: trial period.

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Speaker 1: So is it an exemption or an exception? It's an

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Speaker 1: exception an exception and what's the difference do you know?

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Speaker 4: Well, the Minister has the ability under the Planning Act

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Speaker 4: to provide a release for a short period of time

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Speaker 4: for us to run something that the Planning Act will

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Speaker 4: not allow. So if the Minister says yes, then we

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Speaker 4: can run the three month period. And again I said

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Speaker 4: to you before, and I reiterate again because some people

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Speaker 4: says you're going to put the carava back there.

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Speaker 3: No we're not.

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Speaker 4: It's a trial. It's to find out if that kind

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Speaker 4: of a activity can resolve some of the social problems

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Speaker 4: also activate the economy in that area and also in Darwin.

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Speaker 3: It is a trial.

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Speaker 4: Capital T capital R CAPITALI capital A Capital l Trial.

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Speaker 2: Can you just pint a bit of a picture for

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Speaker 2: our listeners, because I think that people are quite confused.

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Speaker 2: I think some people you know, are thinking that you're

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Speaker 2: going to be setting up a caravan park down there

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Speaker 2: at Bandilla Beach.

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, how would this look.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not going to be a caravan park.

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Speaker 4: It's not going to block access to the beach, it's

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Speaker 4: not going to block footpaths. The only area we're going

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Speaker 3: We're going to.

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Speaker 4: Have an enclosed area that will have a small number

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Speaker 3: There, can come two days and then can move on.

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Speaker 1: How many are v's are you thinking, well, that you.

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Speaker 3: Can't put a lot there.

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Speaker 4: Most likely would be between ten and fifteen because of

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Speaker 4: the limitation the space. The other thing, of course is

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Speaker 4: we've got toilets there and we've got a power already.

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Speaker 4: The only thing we probably have to put the samp

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Speaker 4: and they're putting some there. It's not a bad idea

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Speaker 4: because at the moment there are only two sides in Darwin.

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Speaker 4: One is in the show grounds and another one in

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Speaker 4: a private caravan part. And I've had a lot of

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Speaker 4: complaints for people with our vest telling me there's no

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Speaker 4: way to empty their cassettes, the toilet cassettes and some

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Speaker 4: of them when they get out or down with the

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Speaker 4: dump them in the bush, which is a no no.

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Speaker 4: So we were to do facilitate so even if people

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Speaker 4: passing by, even the trial does not continue, they can

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Speaker 4: actually dump their suruts.

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Speaker 1: There is there going to be a bit gross, No, it.

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Speaker 4: Isn't because it happens everywhere I've done myself in Tennant

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Speaker 4: Creek and in Catherine and another springs. It's like a

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Speaker 4: place where you actually put the toilet and was the cassette.

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Speaker 3: It's all clean and proper.

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Speaker 1: So tell me.

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Speaker 2: Look in terms of now the process that you've got

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Speaker 2: to take. So you're going to have to write to

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Speaker 2: the minister requesting this exception, this permission to actually be

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Speaker 2: able to do it. Do you really think they're going

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Speaker 2: to do it given the fact that you've got the

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Speaker 2: member for Fanny Bay who's on their team, Brent Potter saying,

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Speaker 2: you know it does not want this to go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Well, our idea is work with the government to activate

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Speaker 4: the economy, to activate Darwin and to resolve to social problems.

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Speaker 4: Now it's up to the governor if he wants to

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Speaker 4: be part of it or doesn't want to be.

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Speaker 3: We try something. At least we try something.

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Speaker 4: At least we've got an idea, we know there's a problem,

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Speaker 4: trying to resolve it and build on this so we

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Speaker 2: Is the reality here though, called that it's just going

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Speaker 2: to take too long. I mean we're in the dry

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Speaker 2: season now, we're right in the art of the dry season.

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Speaker 4: But again we have to start now if we're going

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Speaker 4: to be ready to do it for next season.

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Speaker 1: But again, next season now it's too late.

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Speaker 4: What we can do now we have everything, all the

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Speaker 4: ducks in a row, so we can actually then with

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Speaker 4: the approval by the government, the Minister, we can.

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Speaker 3: Go out ask expression of interest.

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Speaker 4: We give the council time to be prepared for the

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Speaker 4: next drive season and also if anybody wants to operate,

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Speaker 4: it can be prepared until the next season.

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Speaker 1: So we can kiss this dry season. God, it's not

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Speaker 3: It's may already.

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Speaker 4: If we started now, by the time we do expressions

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Speaker 4: and everything as would be another month or two.

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Speaker 3: It would be the end of the dry season. Unrealistic.

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Speaker 4: It's a good idea, but we don't have to do

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Speaker 4: it now and rush it and fail it. Let's do

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Speaker 4: it properly and let's do it in a different way.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime.

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Speaker 2: When then, if that's now not going to sort of

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Speaker 2: be looked at until next dry season, so that is

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Speaker 2: quite some time. Why now, it sounds like there's quite

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Speaker 2: a bit of work to get Underwhy so in the maintime,

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Speaker 2: in terms of that master plan and in terms of

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Speaker 2: the dog park, when's that going to get started?

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Speaker 4: We decided yesterday we actually we had already done a

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Speaker 4: master plan two the sixteen when the idea about the

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Speaker 4: surf facility was floated first, so we already got information

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Speaker 4: from the local residents where they want there. We take

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Speaker 4: that one back, we built on it. We go back

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Speaker 4: to the to the people and says, look, this is

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Speaker 4: the original proposal, this is what you want it. Do

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Speaker 4: you agree with it? You want something more? So we

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Speaker 4: don't have to go from scratch to invent the wheel.

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Speaker 4: We've got the information, I thought.

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Speaker 2: With the dog park though, we'd had like a bit

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Speaker 2: of a survey of where's it going to happen, and

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Speaker 2: that was the decide, And.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be done.

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Speaker 4: But again, for example, the government wants a basketball court,

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Speaker 4: you don't put a basketball court next to dog park

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Speaker 4: because the dogs wild go bisilk watching a ball bouncing

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Speaker 4: up and down. So we have to consider that we

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Speaker 4: want to do it right. We don't actually put a

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Speaker 4: dog park that we have to dig out later to

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Speaker 4: put something else. Let's do it properly, Let's do once,

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Speaker 4: and let's do it to last for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Corn, Is this a step back from the council's perspective

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Speaker 2: because my understanding was that this, you know, the trial

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Speaker 2: for the RV park was going to be for this

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Speaker 2: dry season.

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Speaker 4: Well, it took too long with the going out to

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Speaker 4: public consultation and everything else. Let's be realistic. I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to waste money to do something half cooked. I

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Speaker 4: want something to be done properly.

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Speaker 1: Well, conbat Scarlets.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming on the show this morning and

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Speaker 2: talking further to us about it.

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Speaker 1: Just on that dog park. How soon is it going

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Speaker 1: to get underway?

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Speaker 4: The moment we finished the master plant and we know

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Speaker 4: where put where we will start the dog park.

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Speaker 3: The dog park is non negotiable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so how long do you think the master

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Speaker 2: plan is going to take to get finished.

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Speaker 4: Look, we were trying to do as soon as possible

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Speaker 4: because we're already build up on it and we don't

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Speaker 4: start from scratch, I reckon, But within two to three

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Speaker 4: months we'll have something in.

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Speaker 2: Please all right, well, convat scarlus, the Lord Mayor of Darwin,

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Speaker 2: always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us two days in a row.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,