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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: once answers Now.

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Speaker 3: Hello, this is doctor Justin Colson. Welcome to another holiday

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Speaker 3: edition of The Happy Families Podcast. A while back, I

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Speaker 3: had a chat with a guy who I just have

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Speaker 3: so much respect for, a really really clear thinker when

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Speaker 3: it comes to kids' big feelings, emotions and parenting more generally.

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Speaker 3: You might have heard of Andrew Fuller. He's based in

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Speaker 3: Melbourne and run something called Resilient Youth Australia. The guy

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Speaker 3: is a fountain of knowledge and I was talking to

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Speaker 3: him about his latest book, The Aid is That of Feelings,

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Speaker 3: I asked Andrew in episode three hundred and nineteen of

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Speaker 3: The Happy Family's podcast, what a feelings matter so much?

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Speaker 1: Really? You're in our world, so we have perception of

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Speaker 1: basically outer world, and of course reading the outer world

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Speaker 1: is incredibly important. We have this other inner world, which

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Speaker 1: often we're less tune too, and so feelings are in

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Speaker 1: some ways our internal perceptions, bubbling up seeking awareness within us,

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Speaker 1: and we get very confused about them quite often. I

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Speaker 1: think about feelings a bit like their guests that show

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Speaker 1: up unexpectedly a digited party you didn't really even know

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Speaker 1: you were having. And some of the guests are hard

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Speaker 1: to please, some stay too long and don't stay anywhere

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Speaker 1: near long enough, and often we don't have much idea

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Speaker 1: about what to do with any of them. And so

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Speaker 1: often our feelings are signals about what we need or

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Speaker 1: what we are seeking. So one of the really useful

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Speaker 1: questions to ask ourselves about any feeling is what is

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Speaker 1: this seeking from me? What do I need at this

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Speaker 1: point now? To confuse it just a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Feelings aren't always true, so it doesn't mean that we

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Speaker 1: necessarily need to believe every feeling that. I'm sure if Kylie,

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Speaker 1: you've had this experience where you've met somebody and you thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're a bit dodgy, they're a bit kind of suss,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll hang around, But then pretty much

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Speaker 1: and then later on you've kind of gone, no, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't kind of the right kind of perception of them

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Speaker 1: at all. Actually they're a really nice person, And so

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Speaker 1: you get this kind of signal which is often useful

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Speaker 1: but not always true. That's a really interesting kind of process.

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Speaker 2: I love the imagery that you've created there, Andrew, with

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Speaker 2: this idea of our feelings being unexpected guests that just

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Speaker 2: shut off unannounced, and we have to we have to

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Speaker 2: work through that process and how you also touched on

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Speaker 2: the fact that feelings are just feelings and not necessarily true.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's something that I have had

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Speaker 2: to work personally with in recent times, learning that process.

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Speaker 2: That's been tricky for me.

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Speaker 1: I think there are days for all of us where

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Speaker 1: after that at the end of the day we kind

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Speaker 1: of scratch our head and go, why the heck did

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Speaker 1: I get into I kind of stressed out situation or

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Speaker 1: got so upset by that particular thing, And it doesn't

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Speaker 1: often make sense. And so feelings can be related to

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Speaker 1: the current events in your life that which we can

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Speaker 1: hold onto some history in ourselves car we that basically

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Speaker 1: means we misinterpret stuff. And if we keep doing that

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Speaker 1: and getting it wrong and believing that our feelings are true,

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Speaker 1: then we can end up in all sorts of bother

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Speaker 1: because we're misreading the world and misreading ourselves in it,

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Speaker 1: and that becomes a major problem.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Fuller with some wisdom for us from episode three

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Speaker 3: hundred and nineteen of the Happy Families podcast. You can

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Speaker 3: go back and hear the whole thing just by pushing

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Speaker 3: that button. Episode three hundred and nineteen with Andrew Fuller

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Speaker 3: all about his book The ads Ed of Feelings, worth

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Speaker 3: a look if you'd like to get your head around it.

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Speaker 3: I think Brene Brown might have copied off him and

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Speaker 3: come up with her one, The Atlas of the Heart,

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Speaker 3: same kind of idea. Both wonderful books and both full

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Speaker 3: of great ideas for us to navigate the challenges that

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Speaker 3: life presents us and the feelings that come up every

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