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Speaker 1: thank you Lola aka my mum. I don't think you've

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Speaker 1: done a hot I know you've been on the pot.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've done hot seat before. We haven't

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Speaker 1: done a hot seat before. So I thought we could

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Speaker 1: do a special high Desert hot seat because that's where

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Speaker 1: we've just been. Yes, so the high desert for us means, well,

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Speaker 1: we've gone to Joshua Tree. I think it means the

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Speaker 1: Mahave desert. Boss might know all the sampan. What is it? Boss?

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Speaker 1: What's the high desert? Always got ahead phone, just the air. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we did Joshua Tree, Palm Springs, and Pioneertown. So first question,

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Speaker 1: what were what was your favorite nature moment.

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Speaker 2: In terms of Palm Springs, I didn't see it a lot.

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Speaker 2: And even in Joshua Tree, I didn't see a lot

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Speaker 2: of nature, if you like, I couldn't see one because

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Speaker 2: of the heat. I couldn't see how critters could actually

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Speaker 1: But I would say our backyard was very nature though.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no it was. We did see squirrel and a

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Speaker 2: smaller animals too. Yeah, and keeping that body mass down

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Speaker 2: to a smaller area I think helps so that they'd

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Speaker 2: be a smaller breed if you like. Okay, I find

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Speaker 2: josh Tree very Nata vibes because you've seeing the Joshua

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Speaker 2: I would say Palm Springs isn't as natre unless you

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Speaker 2: go out find the hikes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, true, because there's oasis and stuff and stuff

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's there's also a there's like a cable

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Speaker 2: so I didn't quite get there. But yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you needed to get out into it. Like the desert

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Speaker 2: gardens and the zoo, they're open, but because it's summer,

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Speaker 1: It gets too hot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets too hot.

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Speaker 2: I loved I loved the quietness of Joshua Tree.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like a different quiet if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt noticed the beds to different to back home, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Okay, favorite foody spot. I know

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be Copley's, which is Carry Grant's, part

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Speaker 2: of Carry Grant's estate which he sold and was turned

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Speaker 1: I've seen matt would be a really nice place to

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Speaker 2: You know that it was delicious too.

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Speaker 1: And you had some food outings in Joshua Tree. Did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did like Tiny Pony because they did a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tiny Pony is good, So I if anyone listening,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't realize until we went Palm Springs,

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Speaker 2: And when I found out that Carry Grant had originally

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Speaker 2: And if you remember, Carry Grant had a perennial tan

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we like finding little like quirky dive bars

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be hard to pin them down

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Speaker 2: to three. It would have to be Othello with Denzil Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: really and it was really well acted. It's a shame

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Speaker 2: Othello is definitely a tragedy. It was just really well acted.

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Speaker 2: The whole cast were really good. Jake Guildenhall was in

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Speaker 1: Trolley or sort of transport. Yeah, got it. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: New York. I would you say, is your third highlight?

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Speaker 2: I did a tour which was part of the ghost

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Speaker 1: It just hold the mark a bit close.

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Speaker 2: It took me round the Bronx and Brooklyn and just

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Speaker 2: loved the Smithsonian in New York, and I loved Central Park.

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Speaker 2: I was there for seven days, so I tried to

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Speaker 2: see as much as I could. I just couldn't spend

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Speaker 2: the time that I would have liked at each of those.

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Speaker 1: He goes quick in New York, right, sorry, goes quick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no it does.

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Speaker 1: So your three highlights would be I thought Graceland would

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, of course, we haven't even touched Memphis and

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mum, and thanks for that. Memphis adventure was so fun.

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Speaker 1: It was, wasn't It was terrific. So really enjoyed it

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Speaker 1: all right, Love you, Love you, two girls.

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