1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Busier than Prince Harry on the Worldwide Privacy Tour as 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: our Prime Minister, Anthony Open Easy. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, great to be lovely to. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Have you back in the studio. You flew in on 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: the weekend for the launch of the Resources Technology Showcase. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: How was that? 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: That was fantastic fun. All the extraordinary breakthroughs that are 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: happening in technology, in robotics and in using information technology 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: and really to drive productivity new equipment, big machines, but 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: also fun stuff as well that engages all these kids, 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: like there were thousands of them. It was the best 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: I've seen, the best I've seen, Barnann and the kids 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: were so enthusiastic. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: There was this. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Scram I was worried going around with all the TV 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: cameras that some of the little kid was going to 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: get knocked over by a camera. But it was just 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: good fun, the enthusiasm that was there, and the beauty 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: is that it was really showing practically what the application 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: of science is and that's the future for this state 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: and this country is becoming the smart country. And if 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: even two percent of the kids who were there yesterday 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: afternoon and then outside as well with the big equipment, 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: building things with their families. If two percent of kids 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: who are there get inspired to study science, to become engineers, 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: to become technicians, to go and work in these vast industries, 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: that will grow. Looking at as we shift to cleaner technologies, 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, making batteries and making more things here, then 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: that will be a great thing. 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: Anthony, you told us on the hustings the federal election 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: you'd come back to perthon You'd come back to West 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: Australia a lot of times, but your schedule is must 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: be what's grueling. I felt like you were sitting there 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: in the seat of Aston and Victoria after the win 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: for Mary on the weekend, then all of a sudden 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: you're here. It's pretty I was. 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: And I wake up in Hobart. Yes, but I look, 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: it was important that we acknowledge Mary's win was an 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: extraordinary thing, once in a century event. And Mary's such 40 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: a humble person. She's done it tough in her life. 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: She's grew up in public housing, she's raised kids on 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: her own, she's looked after her niece as well. She's 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: a cancer survivor. She's got this extraordinary story and I 44 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: think her genuineness and warmth really shone through. If anyone 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: was watching her speech on Saturday night, she was genuinely 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: humbled by it. And she'll be a great voice in 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the Parliament, not just for Aston, but I think people 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: will really warm to her and it's good to have 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: people like that in the Parliament. She's certainly not someone 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: who who expected to be there. She ran last time 51 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: when it was the margin was above sixty percent, so 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: she got this big swing and then she got another one, 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: and I think in part that is because of who 54 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: Mary Doyle is and to her credit. And then I'd 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: given the commitment about the showcase, so I don't break commitments. 56 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: So we dashed across here and then I got to 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: go to the Derby. 58 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you have kept true to your election promise 59 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: about you know, visiting w Way. This is your tenth 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: trip eleven eleven trip county within a year as Prime minister. 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: How is the first year gone? Oh well it's up 62 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: to judge. Will you get curveballs thrown it? 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: No one thought the Russian invasion of you would continue 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: for so long and have that impact on global inflation 66 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: that it has, so we've had to deal with that. 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: Those pressures, but it's a great privilege. I'm very cognizant 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: of the great honor that I have of leading this 69 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: the best country on earth. But it's also the best 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: thing is getting out and about and meeting people and 71 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: engaging with people. We took the entire cabinet to port Headland, 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: as I promised we would. I've been to Calgoli, I've 73 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: been to Albany as well as of course here in 74 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: just about every suburb of Perth. Now, I think over 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: the eleven months that i've been PM, and we're working 76 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: constructively and the good thing I think the feedback I 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: get is that they say it's good that the adults 78 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: are in charge. And they might agree with every everything 79 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: that my government has done, but they know that we're 80 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: trying to address things, and they know that we're engaged 81 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: and we're looking for solutions rather than looking for arguments, 82 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: which is what people want. People had conflict fatigue, I think, 83 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: and so the fact that we've got so much legislation 84 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: through the parliament. Cheaper medicine, cheaper childcare begins on July one. 85 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: There's eighteen thousand people benefiting from our fee free tape 86 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: just here in Wa and visit a tape not far 87 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: from here, just up the road, and talking to students 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: who are going to become electricians or become age care 89 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: workers or childcare workers who are benefiting from that fee 90 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: free tape just really warms your heart. It shows that 91 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: the effort that's put in can make a difference to people. 92 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: One of the big issues at the moment is the 93 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Indigenous Voice to Parliament, which you're campaigning for. Of course, 94 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand exactly what it is 95 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: because they say the wording may be a little vague. 96 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: Can you explain just in layman's terms, exactly what we're 97 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: talking about. 98 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Yes, Look, the wording if they actually look at it 99 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: is really clear, and it's up there on the website 100 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: and on people can google it and see the words 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: that will be put the constitutional change, and it's about 102 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: two things. Firstly, recognizing Aboriginal Torres straight island of people 103 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: in our constitution. That's the first thing at the moment 104 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: that our nation's constitution, which is like a burstiate if 105 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: you think of it that way, should recognize that we 106 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: share this continent with the oldest continuous culture on Earth 107 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: sixty five thousand years. That should be a source of pride. 108 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: So just simple recognition, that's the first thing. The second 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: thing is just consultation. That's what the voices that where 110 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: matters affect average on Torrestraate Island of people, they should 111 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: have a they should be consulted. So it's not a 112 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: right of veto. It doesn't change the power of the 113 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Parliament or the way that decisions are made. It won't 114 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: be a funding body. It will simply be a body 115 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: that can representations and the wording is very clear it 116 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: may make representations so they don't have to. And then 117 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: it's clear that the Parliament will determine the structure, functions 118 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: and operations of the Voice. So it's really about good manners. 119 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: If you're going to have a policy that impacts Aboriginal Australians, 120 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: then us them their views. And we know that what's 121 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: happened up to now isn't working. There's a ten year 122 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: life expectancy gap, there's gaps in health and education and housing, 123 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: infant mortality, there's gaps when it comes to incarceration rates. 124 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Are the most incarcerated peoples in the world, so we 125 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: know that with the best of intentions. I think governments 126 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: of all persuasions have tried to do things for average 127 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: and Australians. This is about doing things with Aboriginal Australians. 128 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: That's an important distinction and I really. 129 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Hope it's like a common sense. 130 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: It is a common sense and we know that when 131 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: we do that, you get better outcomes. Justice reinvestment, Indigenous 132 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: ranges programs, community health prognance. Where Aboriginal people are involved, 133 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: you get better outcomes. And that's what it's about. So 134 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: the No campaign will try to raise a whole lot 135 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: of furfees of what it's not about, but it is 136 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. It is pretty simple, and I sincerely hope 137 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: that we wake up the day after the referendum, average 138 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: on Australians will have been given respect. All of us 139 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: can be walk a little bit taller. I reckon if 140 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: we acknowledge the fullness of our history well with a 141 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: bit of pride, and the world will look at us 142 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: as well, saying well, they've acknowledged their history. And the 143 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: counterfactual to that is I think problematic. So if not now, 144 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: when this has been promised for a long period of. 145 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Time, it feels like about time, Anthony. We're driving to 146 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: work at four in the morning, so we get a 147 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: different view of things and unfortunately we drive through, we 148 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: drive into East Perth and there's the homeless. This issue 149 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: is worse than ever as far as we can see. 150 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: And we're not just talking about people who haven't got 151 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: a roof over their heads. It's the working poor as well. 152 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: Then we know all about the rising cost of living 153 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: right now, but it would be lovely to snap your 154 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: fingers and solve an issue. It's such a difficult thing 155 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: to solve. But what are the things that you see 156 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: are being done that can make such a difference. 157 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: Well, for start, we've got legislation before the Parliament which 158 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: we'll see a doubling of the number of social and 159 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: affordable housing new stock coming online thirty thousand additional through 160 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: our Housing Australia Future funded ten billion dollar fund to 161 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: make a difference, including funding specifically for four thousand of 162 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: those reserved for women and children escaping domestic violence, some 163 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: for our veterans as well, a specific program for them, 164 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: funding to fix remote housing, funding for emergency housing as well. 165 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: We've got our Housing Accord going forward, which is about 166 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: encouraging private sector investment. That's been done with the Master 167 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: Builders Association and the Housing Industry Association and state and 168 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: territory governments we want to work through as well. We 169 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: know this is a big problem, but we have a 170 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: comprehensive plan. Unfortunately, the Housing Australia Future Fund are our 171 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: opponents in the Liberal Party and indeed in this case 172 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: the Greens Party as well are not supporting that going forward. 173 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: It should have passed the Parliament last week. We're hopeful 174 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: that it will though, because it really needs to happen, 175 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: and hopefully one of the things that comes out of 176 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: Saturday's ask and by election is that the Liberals realize 177 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: you can't just sit there and say no to everything, 178 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: which is what they're doing at the moment, and this 179 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: is a really practical measure that will make a difference. 180 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: And I can't understand why anyone would vote against it. 181 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have to let you go. Time 182 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: is against us, of course, and I know you've got 183 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: a million places to be, but thank you so much 184 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 1: for popping in and seeing. 185 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: Great to be in the studio rather than just. 186 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: You always end up on the phone. So yeah, it's 187 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: wonderful to see you and. 188 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Great to be back in Perth. It's been I've got 189 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: to say, pretty stunning weather. Yesterday was gorgeous day for 190 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: the derby. 191 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: You didn't get the Blues Fest as well. We know 192 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: you love your tunes. Yeah, well next time. 193 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: Missed all that