1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: this podcast. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: This land was never seated, always was always will. 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Be Hello, Hello, Hello, dear listeners, and won sure I 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: shall how remiss of me? 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: Okay, that's where I am. The only thing that I 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: can do is say the hall Mary. But we've discussed 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: this before because I went to a very Catholic high school. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: But that is a really weird. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: Way of starting an intro to what is already one 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: of my favorite episodes Georgia. And usually we tease who 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: the guest is, but I don't care. We've already had 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: an o Amy Fox day on this podcast where she 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: didn't feature. 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: Today we're one upping it and she's our special guest. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: She's here, she's here, and dear listeners, just so you know, 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: do not worry. 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: I am checking Jelmy's pulse. I'm checking it. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: If at any point she looks like she's gonna faint, 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I'll catch her. Or hell, why doesn't know? 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: Amy? Maybe catch her. 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: Well, let's tell this story while she's not on the line, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: so that this doesn't get really awkward. But we were 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: at a schmancy event for the F one. It was 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: a watch brand mention it tag tag tag because I 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: would love to be invited again. 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: Hi, Yesoyet always been my favorite. 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Christian Horner was there like it was oh my god, 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: it was like Channing Tatum was there. I mean, I 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: got to this is the only time I get to 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: name drop because usually it's you been like oh me 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: and Tom in Japan. 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: There are layers to this, still listener, because Jelmy and 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: My our canon like bonding event, was going to see 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Magic Mike. So for Channing Tatum to be at an 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: event with Jelmy our song and will tell anyone who 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: dares ask or doesn't even want to know, is Pony 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: by January? 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: Obviously that's when I think I must find Georgie in 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: a room. 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: So Channing Tatum means a lot to us, way too much. 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: And so it was a really it was actually a 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: small event, which you can imagine when they've got that 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: level of celebrity. There was sort of a lockdown, and 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: so we ended up in the basement and then Peaking 47 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Ducker playing and Channing Tatum's dancing, and I'm just like, 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: how much to play Pony? 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: You began that person you're there with like, guys, do 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: you know Mike's here? 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Anyway? 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: That was way too much name dropping for this early 53 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: But what I will say is the crowd parted and 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: I saw Noemi across the room, and instead of playing cool, 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: I walked up and said, Hi, I love you. And 56 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure she was like, this isn't where I parked 57 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: my car. And I was like, oh, this is really strange, 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: Like hi, and yeah, she said that she remembered listening 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: to the app, and so I was like, cool, welcome 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: to the Bermuda triangle of You're not getting. 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Rid of us? Yes, yes, and you will eventually come 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: on an EP Dare. 63 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I say, a genuine good sports, a genuine good sport, 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: a genuine fan of this podcast. We are so excited 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: to have o second official no Amy Day coming up 66 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: for you. Everyone, get excited before we get there, though, 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: Good sport, bad sport. Jeremy, I'm gonna kick things off. 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick things off with a good sport. And 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: I think it's. 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: This man may have. 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: Held this press conference just for us. It's not often 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: that I talk about golfers for the words that they. 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: Say, or at all or at. 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: All or at all, But Scottish Cheffler, I'll tell you 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: what one of ours, you and me, sir Wicked be friends. 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm not out here to inspire the next 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: generation of golfers. I don't I'm not here to inspire 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: somebody else to be the best player in the world, 80 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: because what's the point? You know, this is not a 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: fulfilling life. It's it's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment, 82 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: but it's not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest, 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: you know, places of your heart. You know, there's a 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: lot of people that make it to what they thought 85 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: was going to fore fill them in life, and then 86 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: you get there, and all of a sudden you get 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: to number one in the world, and they're like, what's 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: the point? 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: What is the point? What is the meaning of life? 90 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: Scottie, I love this because that his pros about this 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: goes for about five minutes and the spiral just continues. 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: Digs he digs down, he digs down, just like, you know, 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: this is what I've wanted to achieve my whole life. 94 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden you win the Major 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: and it's cool, and then ten minutes later you're like, 96 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: what's for dinner? Like like things just move on so quickly, 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: and it just made me think like, oh, he could 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: be one of ours, because we do this all the time. 99 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: We're so lucky that we've literally worked in the jobs 100 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: that when we were at I was gonna say journalism school, university, yes, 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: thinking one day we'd get to potentially work on the project. 102 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 5: One day, I'd love to host an Olympics. And then 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: you do it and you're like, ah, like. 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: What comes next? 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: Like if that didn't make me a better person or 106 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: fulfill it or scratch, like what what now? 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 6: Well? 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: Where also I would say tear And as type a personalities, 109 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: it's really hard for us to hear that. But we're 110 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: terrible at celebrating winds, at staying in the moment and not, 111 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, not looking for the next hamster wheel, to 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: be honest, because as soon as we get in achievement, 113 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: we're like, right, what's next. 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: Instead of being like, hang on a second. 115 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: I would say you so more than me. I would 116 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: just like to say I think I do bathe in 117 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: my own glory a little bit longer than you. 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: I have to remind you. 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes you're like oh, I should be doing more on 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: like do you need me to put down the shopping 121 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: list of things that you're doing this week? 122 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: Or you're good, Like I said Scheffler and myself, we 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: might be sole siblings, sole siblings potentially. I was watching 124 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: this grab and I saved it for us to talk 125 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: about on this podcast, and then I go to my 126 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: DMS and you'd already sent it to me, and I 127 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: was like, this is the most perfect good sport for 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: this episode, because I think we can get carried away 129 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: with our top top athletes, and we think that they 130 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: have these dream lives and we think that they've got 131 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: it figured out, as we will say till we are 132 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: red in the face. 133 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: They're human. 134 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: And also sometimes you get there and the thing that 135 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: you think will be the solve for every problem you've 136 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: had in your life, it just never is. Yes, it 137 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: never is. And the true joy comes from little moments. 138 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: Not that, don't be wrong. It's absolutely euphoric, but it's 139 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: always fleeting. The only constant thing is nothing's constant. 140 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: What I will say though, for Scotti Scheffler is that 141 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: at least when he is digging down into the depths 142 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: of this existential crisis, of his he actually might strike 143 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, which is American. 144 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Which is his net worth. 145 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: So as a soul sibling, maybe can I ask for alone, Babe? 146 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 6: Alone a lot. 147 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: Easier to be existentially one of your eight homes? Like 148 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: why do I do it? Why? Why did I do this? 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Looking out of this beautiful window? Yes, the glass was 150 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars. 151 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: What is next? Listeners? 152 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: George looking into renovation prices and anyone who's done that 153 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: knows why all of a sudden you're like, yes, that's 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: what that room's worth, because now I know who are they, 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: and you all shakes your life. But speaking of affluence, yes, unnecessarily, yes, 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: there is speaking of Instagram and things that we want 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: to send to each other, and I deliberately didn't because 158 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: you would have known what this is. People who love sport, 159 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: people who love fashion, and in the middle of this 160 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: Venn diagram is people being obsessed with Wimbledon. 161 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: It's me, Hi, I'm the problem. 162 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: It's me because oh my god, is this my area? 163 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: People dressing like they're at the Ralph Lauren Country Oh yeah, 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: at the Ralph Lauren Country Club. Don't say that too quickly. 165 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: That's dangerous, divine. 166 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: I love it. 167 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm also all about the Royals. I'm all about the 168 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: fact that I left Louis at home because he's a shit. 169 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Yes. 170 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm all for the fact that our Princess beck 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Hewitt was also in your. 172 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Stay behind behind the Royals final Yes. Directly behind the 173 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: Royals is beck and Leyton Hewett. 174 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and directly behind them my other boyfriend Paul Meskal 175 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: and Andrew Scott. I'm sorry, why was anyone no offense? 176 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Yannick and Carlos? Why was anyone watching the game turn around? 177 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I would have been like, hello, sirs, how are you like? 178 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 5: It was? 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: It's the greatest, It's the greatest pinnacle of events for us. 180 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: It's met Gala. It is the Metcala, the new met Gala. 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: It's more exclusive than the Met Gala. It is it 182 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: is Oh my god, can you imagine getting a ticket 183 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: to that? 184 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 3: And now I believe that the OZ, opened by association 185 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: and by the level of celebrity that we've seen recently, 186 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: is the most exclusive sporting event in this country. 187 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you. 188 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 5: It's hit a different pinnacle. If one's getting there, one's cool. 189 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: Ones like especially with the trend and the branding around 190 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: Drive to Survive. 191 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: But I just think OZ Open hits a whole new level. 192 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Well Open as well, which we've talked about before, is 193 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: kind of like a festival now. So even if you 194 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: can't get. 195 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: There's marquees like what used to beat the Melbourne. 196 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Car exactly, And if you can't get the incredible tickets 197 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: at rod Labor, you can still see legitimate high profile 198 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: tennis players playing on court sixteen. 199 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 200 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: So I would agree with you in saying it is 201 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: still just above F one because you have slightly greater 202 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: access to your heroes than you do Lando Norris F 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: one track when you you said, no, you give me 204 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Justin Martin. 205 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Have you seen Brad. 206 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: Pitt go around in the McLaren No, Brad Pitt, who 207 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 3: we won't talk about the problematic press tool that he's 208 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: going on. 209 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: We're just glaze over the fact I'm in love with him. 210 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what he does. 211 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: Basically, they let him get in a current McLaren car 212 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: and do a hot lap and Brad Pitt's there have 213 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: been like there's many perks in my job, this is 214 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: definitely right up there being one of them. 215 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: Jesus, what's the insurance? 216 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Lando's they have been like hate Flando, 217 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: please don't yeah exactly, He's like, up until now, I 218 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: was the Brad pit of at least Team Papaya. 219 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: If you could just it's like, yeah, that's cool. Do 220 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: you have dimples, Brad last, I may check you get it. 221 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: I already have to compete with charl Leclair for half thropping. 222 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: Now, Brad pits here, I mean bullshit. 223 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: I love Lando, I love Lando, but until you learn 224 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: another twenty eight languages and can play piano, sir, I 225 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know no. 226 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: One's and you have a tiny dog that comes with 227 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: you everywhere. 228 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: The sausage that's so beautiful, so beautiful, Oh my god, God. 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: We're so international today. 230 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: And on that please welcome our guests, of which nowhere. 231 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: May in a reality TV obsessed world. We often argue 232 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: on this very podcast that sport is the purest kind. 233 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Where else can you find that potently dramatic combination of love, pressure, expectation, success, failure, 234 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: and of course rivalry. Indeed, I've rarely seen my co 235 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: host as riled up as twenty four year old Jealmy 236 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: screaming at the television and at Sam Frost for not 237 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: choosing Richie in The Bachelorette twenty fifteen edition. But one 238 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: such time was the Paris Olympics, when after a blistering, 239 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: history making paddling performance, Jelmy proudly. 240 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: Declared that she was changing her name to Fox. No 241 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: Amy Fox. 242 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: Born into a prophetic paddling family, no Amy pretty much 243 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: had winning embedded in her DNA. But belonging to such 244 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: a high profile, high achieving family can of course make 245 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: carving your own path, cementing your own identity tricky, especially 246 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: when your. 247 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: Biggest supporter is also your biggest rival. 248 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: Our guest today is unique because she's had both a 249 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: front seat and been in the front seat of such 250 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: exquisite reality. It's one thing to go toe to toe 251 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: with the world and win. It's a whole other to 252 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: go paddle to paddle with the world and your sister 253 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: and win. No Amy not only one gold in the 254 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: inaugural kayak cross in the Paris Olympics, her and Jess 255 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: at one time were number sixteen on the overall world 256 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: medal tally and I am thrilled that you, dear listeners 257 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and hell finally, Jelly and myself are being brought into 258 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: the family. Olympic gold medalist and potentially one of the 259 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: future stars of Keeping Up with the Foxes. 260 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: Please wake to two. 261 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 6: God, what an intro. I think that's the best intro 262 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: I've ever ever had. 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if I had a trumpet and I could 264 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: play it, I would bloody blow it for you. No, Amy, 265 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: we are so thrilled to have you on this podcast 266 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: to just have a chat with us. 267 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: It's exceptional. 268 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 6: Well, I'm equally as excited to be on here. And 269 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: I remember after the things, kind of when things come down, 270 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 6: I started to listen to like media or read articles 271 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 6: that were like about me and about the games, because 272 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: obviously we're in a little bubble. And I remember that 273 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 6: episode when Abba you talked about changing your name and 274 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: just talking about my journey and talking about it so 275 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 6: well as if you know, I had already spoken to 276 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 6: you about it, and it was just one of those 277 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 6: moments where I think, oh wow, like people know about it, 278 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: and people you know, were cheering for me, and you 279 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 6: know it resonates with them to some extent or it 280 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: was their highlight of the games, and I think that 281 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: was just such a pinch me moment. So yeah, thanks 282 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 6: for that episode from back in the day. 283 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: Not only were you our favorite moment from the Games, 284 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: there was no one else on the podium. Now it 285 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: was you daylight and then everything else. And I remember 286 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: that morning coming in and getting to celebrate. But more 287 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: the point, how much Kayak Cross just stole our hearts. 288 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: Oh my god, and that event and how wild it is. 289 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: And Georgie is particularly preoccupied with the drop in. 290 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've lost years of my life thinking 291 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: about this, like how do you compose yourself? 292 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: Like what is the feeling when you drop? 293 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: So that drop in Paris is five and a half meters, 294 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: so it's the highest spelt that we have on the circuit. 295 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: But in a weird way, like the higher the drop, 296 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 6: the better it is, and the better the landing is. 297 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 6: And it is really unique, like that feeling of being 298 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 6: on the start line and you know you've got your 299 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 6: biggest competitors next year. You can hear them like sniffle, 300 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: you can hear them like breathe out or do their 301 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 6: like pre race whatever they do, you know, and then 302 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: you can see the crowd and like it's such a 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 6: in Paris, it was like such a especially for the final, 304 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: like a hard thing to to not close yourself out completely, 305 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: like to take it in, soak it up and realize 306 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: that you know, this is the Olympic Final, but also 307 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: to not get so stressed by you know, the height 308 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: and everything. But I have to say, for me, like 309 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 6: that ramp has been the best thing about the Olympic 310 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: Games because it means that when it dropped, it was 311 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 6: like starting with this adrenaline sprint and this adrenaline rush 312 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 6: and just trying to get out as fast as I could. 313 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 6: And so like compared to say slalom, where you're in 314 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: the start blocks and then you hear the beep and 315 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 6: then it's time to go and you have like six 316 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: meters to kind of go before the start beam, kite 317 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 6: cross is like when when it drops and you land, 318 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: it's like you've got to go for it. And so 319 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: it really sets the tones for that. You know, I 320 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 6: don't want to say kill or be killed, but that's 321 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: it is it. 322 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: You're just doesn't kill yourself. 323 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: You're describing the corner kopia in Hunger Games from me, like, 324 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: this is one hundred percent what is going through my mind. 325 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, here we go and bam like, oh, 326 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I can't think anything more. 327 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: Terrified, and we just genuinely fell in love with it. 328 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: But as you said, there's something so unique about the 329 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: kayak Cross and even the way that you qualify for 330 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: it and get your way through the final. There's so 331 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: many hurdles and so many just split moments that can 332 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: mean that you can be the best in the world 333 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: at it, but if it's not your competition and things 334 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: just don't go your way, sometimes times the best of 335 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: the best don't even make it to the deciders. And 336 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: for that to be your moment, and we spoke so 337 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: passionately about your qualification because of course, up until Paris 338 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: there was only very limited and by limited would mean 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: one spot available in each event for qualification, which was 340 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: up until that point taken by Jess, And we just 341 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: knew that this was your moment and how long you'd 342 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: waited for that moment, but also that you'd had to 343 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: battle algal blooms in the qualification to even get there. 344 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: Like I think everyone talks about the rivalry and how 345 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: and we're like, yeah, yeah, cool. There was no course 346 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: that you could even practice on the lead up to 347 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: the qualification, right because the only facility we have in 348 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: Penrith was contaminated. 349 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I know. So when you say like there's 350 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 6: lots of roadblocks, it felt like the world was against me. 351 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: It felt like I would never make it to the Olympics, 352 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: as there'd be like a little opening and then it would, 353 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: you know, there'd be some sort of roadblock that would 354 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 6: be like, oh no, you just not for you, not today. 355 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: So I think it really kind of just changed the 356 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: whole way I approached things and roadblocks and challenges and 357 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: always trying to see what good can come from it. 358 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 6: And it was hard to see the silver lining for 359 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 6: the algae bloom because you know, our course and facility 360 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: was shut down. But what that did mean was that 361 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: I could go over to Europe with the Olympic team 362 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 6: for three weeks and do a training camp there. Then 363 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 6: we came back and still no water due to the 364 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 6: blue green algae, which is apparently like highly toxic or whatever. 365 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: I've probably swallowed so much of it across my lifetime 366 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 6: and I'm still here. But you know, I would kind 367 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 6: of twist the narrative and think, well, I'll do a 368 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: lot of flatwater, I'll do a lot of gym and 369 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 6: I'll have the fastest flatwater sprint and really just trying 370 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 6: to kind of twist the situations. And same thing with 371 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 6: the qualification. You know, three spots up for grabs in 372 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 6: one race, a global qualification. Some countries had three athletes, 373 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 6: so that's three extra shots that qualifying. For me, it 374 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 6: was just me a one hit one, like a one day, 375 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 6: one shot type of situation, highly stressful, and you know 376 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 6: it was it was just thinking, okay, well I've prepared 377 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: well and really just this whole trying to see that 378 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 6: the door is still open and not focus on how 379 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 6: hard it is or or that the odds are against me, 380 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 6: and and that you know, the world champions actually doing 381 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 6: that event, even though she's doing the World Championship the 382 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: Olympics and already qualified. There were all. 383 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: These like little traps and donnecessary things. 384 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think, yeah, working with my psychologist to 385 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: like reframe situations and really just try to focus on 386 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 6: what I could control was the biggest game changer. But 387 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: you know, one of the things one of my friends 388 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 6: said to me afterwards was, are you going to have 389 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: to go through that fed up qualification race now that 390 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: you're Olympic champion for the next one, and I was like, 391 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 6: you know, I hope I don't have to do that, 392 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 6: even though I don't really you know, prepare me in 393 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 6: the best possible way, but you know, I just don't 394 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 6: wish that upon my. 395 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Well, by looking always looking for the silver linings, you 396 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: found the gold lining. Like you what was that moment 397 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: like when you knew that gold was yours? 398 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 6: I didn't really, Like I think, like Abby kind of mentioned, 399 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: you know, you could get knocked out so quickly, and 400 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 6: so it's like really focusing on every step. So every heat, 401 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: getting through top two, every then the semi final, getting 402 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 6: through top two, and in the final. You know, I 403 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 6: had won every single qualification brace that I had done. 404 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: I had worn the red bib, which is the bib 405 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 6: that makes you choose your lane and the fastest lane 406 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 6: on the air, and yet I still didn't think I'm 407 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 6: going to win. Not to say that I didn't think 408 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 6: I could do it, because I had done a lot 409 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 6: of work on knowing that I had betten every single 410 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: girl that was going to be out there. I had 411 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 6: prepared so well that if they were going to be metals, 412 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: why not, you know, for me? But it was more 413 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 6: so the sense that being so processed, driven and like 414 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 6: not focusing on the outcome, which is something that I 415 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 6: do so often in every aspect of my life, but 416 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 6: you know, not for Paris. And it wasn't until I 417 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 6: did that last upstream and just got out. 418 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: Which was iconically you know, Amy like you still pulled 419 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: out some like Yeah, the move that you pulled off 420 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: was so difficult, and to pull that off in such 421 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: a high pressure moment when she was still potentially coming 422 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: for you, but you'd had to lead the whole way. 423 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: And I just went like, I think everyone has spent 424 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's actually done it. And I think 425 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: you said your dad has a special name for the 426 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: move that you pulled off. 427 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 6: Oh, I think I've mentioned this before, like the up 428 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 6: of the century. He used to always say, I'm doing 429 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 6: that up with the century out of cattle, and so 430 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: he I remember, actually did coin that for me, and 431 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 6: it is the upstream of the century. It's the upstream 432 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: of my life. And I think for me, like it 433 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 6: encapsulates that Olympic like moment for me being so fearless, 434 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 6: being so focused and just like unbreakable is what it 435 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: felt like. And now I've watched that or I know 436 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 6: that I did that, and I just think wow, like 437 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 6: I was, It's just amazing what you can do and 438 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 6: you're fully focused and you fully believe in yourself, and 439 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 6: especially in front of someone like Yeah, Kimberly Wood's raigning 440 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: world champion, one of the biggest pioneers in our sport 441 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 6: for ki cross and I don't want to say the 442 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 6: scariest one on the circuit, but you know, she makes 443 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 6: me nervous, so to do that in front of her 444 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: was huge for me. And I think just such a 445 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 6: after all of those rounds as well, like under fatigue, 446 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 6: under high pressure. I think it's something that I'm just 447 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 6: so proud of for being that like in my race 448 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 6: and so fearless in that sense. And so when I 449 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 6: had the gate and I knew that I flicked it 450 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: out and was coming out first, that was when it 451 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 6: was just like this, like shut up of just wow, 452 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 6: we did it. And it didn't really hit until the 453 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: podium because I was under so much adrenaline, and then 454 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 6: the few days after that as well, because yeah, it 455 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: takes a lot to kind of process that you won 456 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 6: the Olympic Games already just thinking like wow, I'm here, 457 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 6: Like wow, I'm in the final and then just letting 458 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 6: yourself realize and letting that sink in. It definitely takes 459 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: a lot of time, but it's the most incredible feeling, 460 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 6: and I wish I could just you know, I've got 461 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: it bottled up, and from time to time I let 462 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: myself kind of you know, when I'm having low days, 463 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 6: I'm like. 464 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: You know us too. Every now and then we just 465 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: think about it and we need to live well on that. 466 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: Do you watch Have you watched the race again? 467 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: I say this now aiming as someone who has watched 468 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Queensland's origin victory. 469 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Come on, then you're talking to a pan. 470 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: I know, I understand, but I've watched it twice since 471 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: it actually was live to air. 472 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: So do you let your so emotional support game it is? 473 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: It is? Do you let yourself be like I think, 474 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch it again. 475 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's watch me when gold. 476 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 6: So after the games, it probably took like two months. 477 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 6: I remember my my nan watching it because she doesn't 478 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 6: watch live. She cannot watch live. She couldn't even watch 479 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: my mum race life. She gets so nervous, but then 480 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 6: once she knows the results she can watch it. So 481 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 6: I remember kind of like briefly watching it with my 482 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 6: with my nan which was and then you know, with 483 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: the whole family. We watched it at Christmas as well 484 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 6: with my partner's family when we went skiing with them. 485 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 6: But I've only like really concentrated and like watched it. 486 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: I'd say one was for a replay for the Dotter Ward. 487 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 6: We did an interview in the lead up and that 488 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 6: was quite emotional doing watching it then. And then I've 489 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: done a lot of you know, keynotes or school talks 490 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: where I'll play it. But it's funny, I have completely 491 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 6: detached myself from it, Like I don't let myself really 492 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 6: watch it because otherwise it just there's a lot of 493 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 6: emotion in it. I think for me, there's a lot 494 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: of like whoa, it's surreal, you know, to see myself 495 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 6: do that on the front on the world stage and 496 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: the music behind it with the Channel nine editor that 497 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 6: they do. But yeah, so I've watched a few times, 498 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 6: but like I've watched in total, probably quite a lot 499 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 6: that really detached to stay professional and to still bespeaking. 500 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: Same well, speaking of detaching and staying professional, one of 501 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: the great joys in not only your sport but Australian sport. 502 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: Is listening to your dad commentations when his girls are 503 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: competing and there are there is so some of his 504 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: pregnant pauses are so loud because you can just hear 505 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: the fatherhood and the gulps and and oh my gosh, 506 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: she's doing it and the emotion like, oh my god. 507 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: Richard's just an icon. 508 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: But it is so rare to have your entire family 509 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: so entrenched in this sport and the scenes when you won, 510 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: when everyone's in, Mom's in Jess and dad's in commentary, 511 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: he's running, Dave Convit's like, go, go, go join and 512 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: be part of it. Like is at those moments, like 513 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 3: do you have those photos around the house, Like what 514 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: do you do as a family? 515 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: Do you print them? Like how do you reflect on that? 516 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're a bit everywhere, but you also don't want 517 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 6: to just make your living based a shrine for the Olympics. 518 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 6: But it's hard not to have them and to have those, 519 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 6: you know, reminders. I you know, I'm looking at one. 520 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 6: There's like a frame that we got for Paddle Australia 521 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 6: for the Olympics and yeah, I've got a big photo 522 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 6: of that moment up there. Just in my eyesight. So 523 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 6: it is a bit everywhere, and it's hard not to 524 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: want to have it everywhere because it's the most like, 525 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: it's the most surreal thing ever and it's the most 526 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 6: magical moment and you couldn't have scripted it better. I 527 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 6: think same dad. He wanted to be involved in a 528 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: way that wasn't just in the crowd, because one he 529 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: would get too nervous, and two, you know, he he 530 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 6: knows he can be useful, and he also wants to 531 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 6: kind of like let us do our thing, but you know, 532 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: keep himself busy, and he loves Dave and he loves commentary. 533 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 6: So for the finals, he was a bit quiet because 534 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 6: I think it's. 535 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 5: Like, this is all me. 536 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: No one wants to hear from me. 537 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: Sure, He's like, they're going to do it. They're going 538 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: to do it, and you know, no words are there, 539 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 6: and I think for me as well. He he just says, 540 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 6: oh my god towards the end and yeah, it's it's 541 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 6: just such a a like just a magical No one 542 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 6: I don't want to say no one could have expected it, 543 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 6: but for us to win the kayak, the canoe and 544 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 6: the kayak cross, it's just in Paris as well. It 545 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 6: was just the most insane insane, couldn't have scripted it 546 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 6: at a moment. And I think a lot of it 547 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 6: goes to show that, yeah, we were so well supported 548 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 6: by our family, by you know, the Australian Olympic team, 549 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 6: by our own federation, and also just like loving being 550 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 6: in Paris. I was one of you know, Paris is 551 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: my second I imagine my city. It's like I love France, 552 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 6: I love Paris, and it's magical, it's beautiful. There was 553 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 6: just such an air of like, I don't know, you know, 554 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 6: it was alive during the Olympic Games, and there was 555 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 6: so much beauty to see in it and so much 556 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 6: to like take in and we were just taking that 557 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 6: all in and regardless of the result, even before the race, 558 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: I just kept on thinking like how lucky am I 559 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 6: to been here in Paris? And and so I think, yeah, 560 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 6: it was just the most incredible experience of my life. 561 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 6: And then you add on top of that performance and 562 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 6: the gold medal, and yeah, you just want to paint 563 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 6: your house and you know those photos. 564 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: Of well, speaking of wanting to paint your house, something 565 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: that lives rent free in my mind is the chateau 566 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: that you guys stayed in. 567 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I remember seeing a shopping. 568 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: Am I being punked right now, this is where the 569 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: water sport. It was like you were in some sort 570 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: of field like Bridgeton, but the French version, yes, literally 571 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: up and go. 572 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: Are they joking? 573 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: I think during the Games we were a little bit 574 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: like hesitant to just post too much. 575 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: Of everyone from hardboard beds and Prince William ha to 576 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: pop out and you be like, well that checks out. 577 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: Hello. 578 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 6: There was that element of like performance. So we were 579 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 6: close to our venue, which is an hour and a 580 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: half away from the Olympic village, so we're really east 581 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: of Paris, and so this chateau was a ten minute 582 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 6: drive and it meant that you know, rowing and canoe 583 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 6: sprint and canoe slalm could all be together. And when 584 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: we did. When we arrived, it was just like I 585 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 6: cannot explain that excitement. It's like ten times the most 586 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 6: excited kid on Christmas date. You know, you arrive and 587 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 6: you're just like, oh my god, was my home and 588 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 6: it was the most beautiful experience ever. And I think 589 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 6: now that it's a year on, I'm going to start like, yeah, 590 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 6: reliving that and sharing the insides of the chateau, but 591 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 6: being with the rowing girls as well was just the 592 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 6: best thing of all time. And yeah, a Bridgeton Castle 593 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 6: with incredible food as well, like all locally sourced. And 594 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 6: on the last day, the lady who would post us 595 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 6: was amazing and she knew that I was having very 596 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 6: simple breakfast, like sometimes just plain bread and you know, 597 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 6: a banana because it's all like a stomach, and she 598 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 6: was making pancakes and crapes. And then on the morning 599 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: what's wrong with this woman? The morning after I one, 600 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 6: she gave me the most beautiful totella crepe and she's like, 601 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 6: you can eat this now, because I couldn't stomach half 602 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 6: of their Like I just need a simple food. And 603 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 6: it was so hard to know that the most beautiful 604 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: food and cheeses and desserts were there for us. 605 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: This is why we can't be Olympian. You're describing or 606 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: describing like us. 607 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: What we imagine Hogwarts is like we're still waiting for 608 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: the We're still waiting for the letter. 609 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: But any day now, I'm sure. 610 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: But I just remember seeing the snippet of it and 611 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: going I messaged it directly to Georgia. You know, well, 612 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: we like, surely this is Ai, like they cannot be 613 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: staying there our life choices. But you mentioned how special 614 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: it was to be in France, like it is literally 615 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: your second home. Your mum, Miriam obviously is French as well, 616 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: and your dad is British. And you talk about being 617 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: at the two thousand Games and having some sort of 618 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: was it like an Australian flag, a British hat and. 619 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: Some sort of French like a very confused little girl. 620 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: Did any harder you ever consider, because no, I mean 621 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: you could have defected to represent two other nations and 622 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: qualified the Olympics a lot earlier than what you did, 623 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: or at least know that that opportunity might be more 624 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: open than I don't know, needing to go up against Jess. 625 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: Is that something that you ever considered, because a weaker 626 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: person would have. 627 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, Look, it definitely did cross my mind. UK, 628 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 6: I have to say not so much. It's interesting, like 629 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: I think because we live in Australia, it's like I've 630 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 6: merged UK and Australia in one. But I feel very 631 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 6: heavily tied to my French roots. Obviously I was also 632 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 6: born there, just was born there, and my grandparents. You know, 633 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: my name calls me every single day. Like we are 634 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 6: extremely close with my French side of the family, and 635 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 6: my pop had a Kai club and you know they 636 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 6: would also say, oh, why can't you race for France. 637 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 6: But I think, you know, there was something about doing 638 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 6: my first junior team with the Australian team and then 639 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 6: having the Australian system invest in me as an athlete, 640 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: and like in terms of you know, patriotism, I don't 641 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 6: want to say I feel equal French and Australian, but 642 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 6: in terms of representing a country, I knew pretty early 643 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 6: on that I couldn't not represent Australia. And I think 644 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 6: it was one of those things that I had accepted 645 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 6: that if I didn't make it, I didn't make it, 646 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 6: and if I made it, it would be for that 647 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 6: Australian team. There's something so incredible in terms of the 648 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 6: history of the Australian Olympic team. You know, I grew 649 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 6: up idolizing, being infatuated by Ian thorpe and swimmers and 650 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 6: and you know anime is after that. 651 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: I call myself a dolphin and you know. 652 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 6: Going to those welcome homes and that quantious. 653 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: Beautiful shots of you and Jess when you're tiny. 654 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 6: Well, so we kind of grew up with that and 655 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: you know, I still have there's in that video that 656 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 6: I share when we're getting autographs. I still have that book. 657 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 6: So it was definitely like, you know, the Olympic team 658 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 6: I wanted to be part of, but also there's a 659 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 6: lot of incredible athletes in our sport, the current world 660 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 6: number two in canoe and then I think three or 661 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: four in kayak that have never been to the Olympic Games. 662 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 6: Because the world number ones are from the same country. 663 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 6: So I kind of just knew it would be my fate. 664 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 6: It was just hard knowing that it was. You know, 665 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 6: my sisters and my whole family are Olympians and I'm not. 666 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 6: So at one point I was like, do I just 667 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 6: choose a different country, seeing as mum was friends stab 668 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: as GB just as Australia. Maybe I'll just choose like Cambodia, 669 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 6: like around a different country. But at the end of 670 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 6: the day, I think it is so special when you 671 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 6: want to represent your country and when you're part of 672 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 6: that team. You know that, especially in the Australian team, 673 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 6: when you put on the green and gold, you have 674 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 6: like this national duty of doing the best possible, you know, 675 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: the best of your ability, and being so inspired by 676 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 6: other people on that team and the team that we 677 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 6: had in Paris. I just remember thinking like there's no 678 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 6: other team that I could have ever represented, Like this 679 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 6: is the most special team led by Anna, with so 680 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: many incredible athletes, Like it was just Yeah, I think 681 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 6: the proudest moment of my life was being on that 682 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: Australian Olympic team. 683 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: That's still a lot of pressure as well, though, Yeah, 684 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: that you're that you know, you're you're putting on yourself, 685 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the country's putting on you, the family's putting on you. 686 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean you say you couldn't eat the delicious Natella crepes? Like, 687 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: how did you handle your nerves? In all seriousness? How 688 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: did you get a handle on them? 689 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? It was I think a long work in progress 690 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 6: because I'm generally quite a nervous person, quite someone that's 691 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 6: like focused on the results or not to like embarrass 692 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 6: myself or let other people down. Like I think that's 693 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 6: inherently who I am. And today I think I'm dealing 694 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 6: with more pressure or more nerves, especially ahead of say 695 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 6: a home World Championships in September as a raiding Olympic champion. 696 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: But for Paris, It's interesting. I had nerves, but I 697 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 6: think I was just more like the cup was more 698 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 6: full of like excitement and like pride and like I 699 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 6: don't know, this willingness to go out there knowing that 700 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 6: I finally had my shot. I never thought obviously I dreamt, 701 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 6: but I genuinely didn't think I would ever get to 702 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 6: go to the Olympic Games. And that was, you know, 703 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 6: kind of just what I had accepted. And when the 704 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 6: door opened a little bit, you know, I gave it 705 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 6: absolutely everything. And when I qualified for Prague, it was 706 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 6: just the biggest dream come true to earn my qualification 707 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 6: spot for Paris in Prague. And from there it was like, look, 708 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 6: you went through the hardest qualification system. You've got the results. 709 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 6: Like now you have nothing left to lose and no one, 710 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 6: you don't have to prove anything. You're here. You can 711 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 6: just go out and do your best. And there was 712 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 6: a lot of, you know, an incredible support team around me, 713 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 6: and every day it was just you know, taking the 714 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 6: good bits, read a lot of you know, positive reinforcement, 715 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 6: a lot of like writing down why you know I 716 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 6: could do it, and then that I had the skills 717 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 6: to be there, because up until even the day before, 718 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 6: sometimes you think like what if I'm out in the 719 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 6: quarterfinal or what if you know I'm here just for this, 720 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 6: and what if I get knocked out after the time trial. 721 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 6: I think there's always those thoughts, but doing a lot 722 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 6: of like positive reinforcement, having you know, a coach. My 723 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: coach was actually my partner who came specifically with the 724 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 6: kayak cross and you know, there. 725 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: Was what your coach is your partner, so you rather 726 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: coach is kind of your mom. 727 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 6: Like plot twist. We had multiple kayaking staff and so 728 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 6: my mum is mainly Jess as coach and for my 729 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 6: my coach in every day but for cross and for 730 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 6: that qualification in Prague, we needed an extra person to 731 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 6: come and my partner happens to be under twenty three 732 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 6: and kite cross specific coach, so he was brought up 733 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 6: in qualification and because we won the quota and I 734 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 6: got that spot, he then came on for the team 735 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 6: and helped obviously helped Jess and helped Tim and Tristan 736 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 6: as well in kite cross, and so there was that 737 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 6: element of career. 738 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: So sorry, so no I'm so sorry that I'm interrupting you. 739 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: So no trust there, But how do you take instructions 740 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: from your part because we can't and what survive let 741 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: alone win gold? 742 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: Just just a context, Georgie just came back from the 743 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 3: amazing race that hasn't gone to a yet, but I'm 744 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: going to predict that there are points where Roberts giving 745 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: you direction. 746 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: You're like, don't tell me. 747 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, are you an Olympic champion? But 748 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you could be like, well, yeah, 749 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: strange dynamics. 750 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 6: It is a strange dynamic and I think that's why, 751 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 6: like I don't like not that I don't talk about it, 752 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 6: but I think often like, yeah, it is something about 753 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 6: a lot of people thing I never could have done that, 754 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 6: but there is something so unique about wanting something so badly, 755 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: and for me that was obviously that quota in Prague 756 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 6: and having people that have the competencies to help you 757 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 6: and wanting to help you, and then you know, trusting 758 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 6: that they can help you get there, so that we 759 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 6: were so aligned in that sense. There was also a 760 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 6: lot of trust. I think in an everyday basis, it 761 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: would be really hard for him to coach me because I, 762 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 6: you know, snap back. I even snap back at my mum. 763 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 6: We're very similar in that sense. But I think for 764 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 6: the quota there was so much you know, vulnerability there 765 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 6: as well, like so much fear of not getting it, 766 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 6: but also so much like drive to go get that 767 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 6: and him knowing exactly what I needed to do. So 768 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 6: there was that element of like it was a very 769 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 6: unique situation. And then for Paris, you know, it worked 770 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 6: and we trusted each other in that sense, and so 771 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 6: he carried on that quota and carried on from the 772 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 6: quota to come to Paris, and also knowing that he 773 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 6: wasn't there just for me made things a lot easier 774 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 6: because he's already you know, a staff member of the 775 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 6: Paddle Australia team. So it is an interesting dynamic. And 776 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 6: today we think like, thank god that worked, because it 777 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 6: definitely not worked out. But I really do think it 778 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 6: was that uniqueness of like the vulnerability of wanting something 779 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 6: so badly and understanding that you really need help and 780 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 6: that these people have the competencies to like help you 781 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 6: in that sense. But today, yeah, today, no, no. 782 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: No, I've listened to arguably too much of you speaking 783 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: since the games because I'm I'm a massive. 784 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 5: Fan, as you will know. 785 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: But you spoke about there was a moment where people said, oh, 786 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: you know, what do you clearly remember and you said 787 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 3: my coach, which I now think were you talking about 788 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: your partner said take a moment to take this all 789 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 3: in because you're here. 790 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: Was that your partner who said that? 791 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? So I think originally I didn't say my partner 792 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: because I knew that so many there was already so 793 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: much going on right media wise. I knew that it 794 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 6: could have just also been a flurry and in an 795 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 6: explosion of like different media, and I was just like 796 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 6: content with where we were at that I just would 797 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 6: say my coach this, my coach that. And then it 798 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 6: did get to a point where I was like, poor thing, 799 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 6: he's getting removed from like the whole. 800 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: Narrative because I remember hearing you say, not to paraphrase 801 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: what you said yourself, but essentially that there's so much 802 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: noise going on as an athlete that you try to 803 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 3: shut out. It was your coach that said, take a 804 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: moment to go. You hear, yeah, you've achieved it. Enjoy 805 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 3: it here. It's like feel it all because if you 806 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: don't feel it all. It can go so quickly, and 807 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: now I realized yeah, And. 808 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 6: So essentially we had like this little routine that we 809 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 6: would do, you know before like after each heat, there 810 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 6: would be like half an hour to forty minutes if 811 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 6: I remember, and I'd go to the tent and I 812 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 6: like write down my little things kind of like you know, 813 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 6: behind like Nicola and I would just you know, take 814 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 6: a moment, and then we come back and we do 815 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 6: our like little activations, have a bit of a pep talk, 816 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 6: and then for the final after, you know, coming down 817 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 6: from the tent. He didn't want me to go to 818 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 6: the tent. He wanted me to go to one of 819 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 6: the rooms we had. But hearing the crowd was just 820 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 6: the most incredible thing ever. They were blasting music, knowing 821 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 6: my friends were there, it was just like one of 822 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 6: those moments where I just was getting pretty hyped, but 823 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 6: it was just I wanted to let myself kind of 824 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 6: live that. And so then we went down did our 825 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 6: little like activations, and he kind of broke character for 826 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 6: the first time because he's very stoic, very calm, and 827 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 6: that's why we work well together and I think also 828 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 6: in real life. But he had he kind of broke 829 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 6: character and was like like take a moment, like take 830 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 6: it in and was kind of smiling, and uh yeah. 831 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, don't get emotional, like don't freak out, 832 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 6: but like, yeah, we're here. And so I went back 833 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 6: onto the and then I had like my little routine 834 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 6: when I'd go on the climbing up the rare, like 835 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 6: I would hold my boat. A lot of the people 836 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 6: were getting them carried, but for me, it was kind 837 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 6: of like that shielding myself from the outside world for 838 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 6: a few minutes and doing like my little reinforcement. Every 839 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 6: step would be like a word, so it would be 840 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 6: like courage, persistent, strive, courage persistent, strive, just to kind 841 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 6: of like just have that in my head, and so 842 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 6: that when I was on the ramp, i'd be like, 843 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 6: you know ready. So yeah, he broke character a little bit, 844 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 6: but I think it was something that did remind me 845 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 6: to like look up, because otherwise it just goes and 846 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 6: then you think, whoa, I don't even remember what it 847 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 6: was like, or it's all a blur, or like I 848 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 6: came forth and I didn't even let myself, you know, 849 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 6: enjoy it. I didn't want. 850 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: That is that courage, persistence drive. Is that still something 851 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: that you've told yourself in competition since and is it 852 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: something that you're looking to employ at that home World 853 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: Championships in Pinrith. 854 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: It's a home one for you in September. 855 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, But then you know, you get to the point 856 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 6: where you do the same thing that you did at 857 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 6: the Olympics and doesn't work, and you're like. 858 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: Damn it. You're like the coach, your code doesn't fly. 859 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: The coach was the code infraction? Oh gosh. 860 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think there's definitely like little elements that 861 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 6: I take, especially when I guess, say like nervous or 862 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 6: when things just kind of there feels like there's a 863 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 6: lot of pressure. It's like having little mechanisms that you 864 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 6: do and you know work. And yeah, a home World 865 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 6: Championships in September, So the last weekend of September will 866 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 6: be big for me because I'll be for the first time, 867 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 6: like the favorite and the one that's being chased. And 868 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 6: I've always been the underdog, and I've loved being the 869 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 6: underdog because there's something about, you know, chasing that is 870 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 6: just I find So I don't know, like it just 871 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 6: works for me, and so. 872 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: No, you're not a Queensland. 873 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: I was like, babe, I can teach you. I can 874 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: teach you if you need. I can be a consultant coacher, 875 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: because it obviously. 876 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 2: Was I think the wrong of coaching. Partner's already taken. 877 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 3: If you're if you're paying attention, but you do mention 878 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: the facilities in Penrith. We may or may not have 879 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: had the Prime Minister on the podcast and he was 880 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: talking about the Brisbane Games and what they're going to 881 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: do with the different facilities in this country, and this 882 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 3: is what he had to say about the rowing. 883 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 884 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 6: Are we really going to do rowing in Rockhampton on 885 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 6: the fit Troy River when there are some pretty good 886 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 6: facilities at Penrith? Yeah? 887 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Fox girls they yeah, thats ther. 888 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: They're I do realize he was talking about rowing it 889 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 3: I still put you up. 890 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: In retrospect. I'm like rolling kayak and canoe potato. 891 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: But data the Fox girls, how do I get them 892 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 3: into conversation? But what would it mean for your family, 893 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 3: who was so intrinsically linked to those facilities in Penrith 894 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 3: to have the games there and to have everyone fill 895 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: it out? 896 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: Is that something that you think should happen. 897 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. Like I say, both ways, part of 898 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 6: me things, Oh, it could be incredible, you know, knowing 899 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 6: that the legacy of the Penrith facility was for two 900 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 6: thousand and already for US now to have twenty five 901 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 6: years on a World Championships and then potentially Brisbane twenty 902 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 6: thirty two. But at the same time I see that 903 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 6: for our sport to grow it does need another venue. 904 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 6: If there's an algae issue again, to have another venue 905 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 6: and Brisbane there's just so much more of a clearer 906 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 6: pathway to enter canoeing from you know, from surf life saving, 907 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 6: from already a lot of water sports, and I think 908 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 6: for sports to grow there has to be being such 909 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 6: a huge geographic nation, you know, it's so massive. To 910 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 6: have another facility would be incredible for the growth of 911 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 6: our sport. Also to have a facility that is designed 912 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 6: to be more sustainable, to have a longer lasting legacy 913 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 6: as well, because you know that one was designed back 914 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 6: in two thousand. In terms of efficiency with the pump system, 915 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 6: it's not the best, but it is also long standing 916 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 6: and one of the the best design courses out there, 917 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 6: and it was designed twenty seven years ago now exactly. 918 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 6: That's also amazing, But part of me would be super 919 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 6: excited to see that Red Lens venue be made and 920 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 6: to know that there could be a better pathway to 921 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 6: our sport because the reality is being in Penrith thing 922 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 6: closed off with the Regata Center. It is really hard 923 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 6: to get people into kayaking, to get people to stay. 924 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 6: It's an expensive sport. Equipment's expensive, and it is you know, 925 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 6: forty dollars for one session on whitewater as well unless 926 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 6: you're refunded athletes. So there's a lot of like financial 927 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 6: and geographical barriers into getting into kayaking, and we've brought 928 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 6: in a lot of exposure, but we want people to 929 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 6: discover rivers. We want people to discover what kayaking is, 930 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 6: and I think a new venue would also help that. 931 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Essentially, who do you think would be better at kayaking? 932 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 2: No way me, jail me or myself? Don't. 933 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: You don't have to answer that because you know the answer. 934 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 3: I can't be swim. 935 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got long limbs and I feel like 936 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: that would help with the Well. 937 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 6: You know what what I can do is we'll take 938 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 6: you down and we'll find out, Yes, I'm not good 939 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 6: for much. 940 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 3: I've got forty bucks. I reckon, I reckon, we can 941 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 3: do it. 942 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: You know what. I would absolutely do it. I would 943 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 2: do it. 944 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 5: I would do it just for the drop, although I'm 945 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 5: sure that's not how they start. 946 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 2: Oh there's and again I know beginnings. 947 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: Don't to be all Queenslander about this, but there's the 948 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: theme park on the gold Cloth called dream World, and 949 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: there was a ride there called the Tower of Terror, 950 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: and that is the when you're talking about that drop 951 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 1: to start the car cross, all I am thinking about 952 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: is that's my Tower of Terror. 953 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 6: See I can you can not pay me to do 954 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 6: the Tower of Terror. But like fucking ramps, I'm fine. 955 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 6: You know, really. 956 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: Really have you Who do you think would be the 957 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: biggest name that sort of reached out to you or 958 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: wish you were congratulations when you won gold. 959 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 6: Oh I've actually had a lot which has been insane. Yeah, 960 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 6: and a lot that I can't even remember now, which. 961 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: Sounds it would been a way. 962 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 6: You know a lot of Australian legends. I've had Nick Fanning, 963 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 6: I've had who you know, huge fan of I've also 964 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 6: had Rufus Rufus and I think they sing it to. 965 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 5: Up there did you say you know I can't get 966 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 5: enough of you? 967 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, I've had like I think that's been Like 968 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 6: the craziest thing is sometimes seeing like who followed me 969 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 6: and taking a screenshot and sending it and being like WHOA, 970 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 6: How do I like say, is it weird to say 971 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 6: thanks for the phone? 972 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: You're? 973 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 6: Like? 974 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 5: Do I casually use one of their songs in my. 975 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 3: Story as I like, I see you, thank you for 976 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 3: your time? 977 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 6: Like play cool, play it cool, but like so, yeah, 978 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 6: there's been a lot of I feel like tonight I'll 979 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 6: be like, how did I not say that? 980 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: No? 981 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 6: No, I remember flag bearer and when she was elected 982 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 6: flag bearer, I remember saying, you realize, like people like 983 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 6: Hugh Jackman are going to know who you are, Like 984 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 6: they're going to know that you're waving the flag, or 985 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 6: like Beyonce, if she watches We're right before the USA, 986 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 6: she's gonna hear that Jessica Fox is the flag Barrel. 987 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: I don't love you because I was expecting you to 988 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: be like you know Lebron's and said you're like h Jackman. 989 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 6: We saw Lebron stop. It's one of my top I 990 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 6: don't want to say top three highlights but it is 991 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 6: up there. We were basically on our way to the 992 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 6: opening ceremony in the bus, and at one point the 993 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 6: buses were just stopped. We were really close to getting out, 994 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 6: and I was sitting next to the window and a 995 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 6: bus rolls up next to us, and we can see 996 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 6: they're the US, and it just starts creeping forward. And 997 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 6: at one point Lebron is on the backseat and he's 998 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 6: in what because he was in and he's just looking 999 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 6: at us, and he's like nodding his head, and I 1000 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 6: think everyone was like in shock. And then two seconds 1001 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 6: later everyone went and then we didn't even have time 1002 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 6: to get our phones out or anything, and just like 1003 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 6: creeped forward. But everyone was just just like shocked by 1004 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 6: his presence. And you could feel the aura just from 1005 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 6: you know, the separation of the buses. It was insane. 1006 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: So what was your Because you tried to semi immerse 1007 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: yourself in the village as much as you could and 1008 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: the activities and activations, even though you were very much 1009 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 3: in gay mode, was there something about the games that 1010 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 3: stood out. We've heard of people getting free tattoos, the 1011 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 3: muffins went the muffins went viral. 1012 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 2: And if you kind of have an a teller crape. 1013 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 3: You weren't holing into muffins, but was there something about 1014 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 3: the village that really stood out to you? 1015 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 6: The muffins were really good. I think what I loved 1016 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 6: about the village the village. I literally felt like I 1017 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 6: was made to be an athlete in the village. It's 1018 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 6: really hard to say, but I was like, I'm such 1019 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 6: a merch girlie. I love like, you know, chatting to 1020 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 6: different people. It was amazing to be in the village, 1021 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 6: especially to be in the village post competition in a 1022 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 6: good mood, you know. I think there was something so 1023 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 6: special about having a week in the village. But what 1024 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 6: I loved was like all the little things you could 1025 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 6: do and collect, Like, like I said, my merch collector, 1026 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 6: so we could get like post stamps made with our 1027 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 6: faces and actually like send them off. So I wrote 1028 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 6: a postcard to my Grandma and put my face on 1029 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 6: the stamp, which was insane. 1030 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 3: There was like a photos they probably made them, yeah, 1031 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: And then there. 1032 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 6: Was also the oz post ones that we received later on, 1033 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 6: but we could there was like photo booths everywhere and 1034 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 6: it was all like in the Paris colors and just 1035 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 6: you know, walking around and the oz HQ, I think 1036 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 6: above all was the coolest thing ever. We obviously had 1037 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 6: like a barista and just hang out there. And the 1038 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 6: coolest thing ever was after the closing ceremony, we all 1039 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 6: came back to our HQ and just danced until like 1040 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 6: two am. That was the coolest thing ever because everyone 1041 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 6: was just you know, together as a team, and we 1042 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 6: saw like countries kind of trying to get in and 1043 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 6: we had a security guard that was like Australia's a 1044 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 6: nightclub where it's like so Australian. HQ was just the 1045 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 6: funnest thing ever. And the only song that we had 1046 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 6: was the Freed from Desire. We listened to it at 1047 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 6: least twenty times because they'd be like okay, okay, last song, 1048 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 6: we have to shut down, and then like there'd be 1049 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 6: silent and then you'd hear do do start again, and 1050 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 6: so yeah, it was just that song. We were pretty 1051 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 6: saturated by the end of it. 1052 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just I'm getting a glimpse at the life 1053 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: in a parallel universe if I had talent and cardiovascular. 1054 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 2: Capabilities that I may have had. You know, you're speaking 1055 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 2: all my language. You were speaking my language. 1056 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: No Amy Another thing that we share in common is 1057 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 1: a deep, deep love for our grandmothers. I've lost mine 1058 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: by one that I loved more than anything. But I 1059 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: love your Instagram because you constantly put in I'm gonna 1060 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: call her your mammy, mammy. 1061 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 6: Or mammy mammy. 1062 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: Me beautiful, your mammy, Like what what does that mean 1063 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: to you? 1064 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean, she got to see you at the games, 1065 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: you got to take her to the seaside recently. 1066 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, at its heart, sport is about the humans 1067 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 1: that you share it with, and you got to share 1068 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: it with your memmy. 1069 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really special. I mean, we live so far 1070 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 6: and I think that's the hardest thing, especially as she 1071 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 6: gets older. She just had one child and that's my mom, 1072 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 6: and then we have two grandkids. So it is really hard. 1073 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 6: Being so far away and having that close connection to 1074 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 6: Marseille and being able to go there and just spend 1075 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 6: time with her is so cut feeling. And you know, 1076 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 6: being in Paris and being able to do sometimes have 1077 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 6: two days off and go down to Marseilles three hours 1078 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 6: in the train was just the most incredible thing. And 1079 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 6: to feel like I was home and resetting and then 1080 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 6: being sent back to Paris with like you know, little 1081 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 6: goods and cookies and biscuits, and she always sends me 1082 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 6: off with biscuits, which is so special. But it's funny. 1083 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 6: She is terrified of our sport and it's because she 1084 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 6: grew up on the river bank and she would watch 1085 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 6: my mom paddle and be like, this is too scary. 1086 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 6: You know, she wasn't from a paddling family. It was 1087 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 6: her husband that got my mom into the sports, and 1088 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 6: my granddad, and she just was too scared of it. 1089 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,479 Speaker 6: I think she's naturally a bit of a scary cat 1090 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 6: and it gets really nervous. But she wants us to 1091 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 6: do well, and she wants us to just enjoy what 1092 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 6: we're doing. So when she knows that we are we 1093 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 6: love what we're doing, or that you know, we're happy 1094 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 6: with the results, she'll watch it. And she's by far 1095 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 6: the most you know, our biggest cheerleader and our biggest 1096 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 6: fan of what we do. So being able to share 1097 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 6: that with hers is definitely so special. And yeah, Mom's 1098 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 6: Atlanta nineteen ninety six medal is still at her house. 1099 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 6: And so when I finished Paris, I had like the 1100 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 6: two men. I have to say, Mums looks like very 1101 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 6: gold compared to like a bronze, so it doesn't look 1102 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 6: like a really nice bronze. 1103 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 2: If you squench, it's like gold. 1104 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 6: Although I do love one of my it's definitely a gold. 1105 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: One of my. 1106 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 3: Favorite grabs that your dad just had to take on 1107 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 3: the chin was when you finish and you were like, 1108 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 3: don't be like dad, don't not get a medal. 1109 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 6: I felt so bad saying that. Afterwards, you know, I 1110 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 6: was like, whoa, I really it just makes you realize, 1111 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 6: you know, everything can just be broadcast to the world. 1112 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: But if we're in the moment and Dad's like, ha ha. 1113 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 6: I just didn't want to be four, then I knew 1114 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 6: how heartbreaking it was. And your mom still like obviously 1115 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 6: it doesn't talk about it now, but like I remember 1116 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 6: growing up and being like, oh, you know, he had 1117 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 6: he should have won gold, and it was fourth and 1118 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 6: gold would have changed his life. But the Olympics wasn't 1119 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 6: in the Olympic program for canoe wasn't in the Olympic 1120 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 6: program when they were at their peak. It only came 1121 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 6: in for ninety ninety two, and they were at their 1122 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 6: peak in the eighties, so I think, you know, it's 1123 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 6: something that they think, well, the Olympics is life changing 1124 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 6: and to live their Olympic dreams now through their kids 1125 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 6: something that is so amazing. And Mum recently said in 1126 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 6: ninety two, when she had just the most disastrous Olympics 1127 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 6: as world rank number one, she said, if she could 1128 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 6: have known that her two kids would have won goal 1129 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 6: later on, she would have been like, I'm done, I 1130 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 6: don't care. Yeah, it's all worth it. So I think, yeah, 1131 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 6: it's amazing for them as athletes that know how hard 1132 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 6: it is and know how hard an Olympics is. To 1133 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 6: see us, you know, perform and do well. I think, yeah, 1134 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 6: it's very special. 1135 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 3: The Olympics is life changing and you know that now 1136 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 3: in terms of you become a household name and just 1137 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: what your family mean to us as Australians. 1138 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: And again people like me are cost you at parties 1139 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 2: thinking that we. 1140 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 3: Know you when we're open because we were so part 1141 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 3: of that journey. But what makes you know amy away 1142 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 3: from kayak and canoe and that world. What gives you 1143 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 3: your sense of you? And what do you if you're 1144 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 3: crystal balling and looking ten twenty years down the track, 1145 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 3: what do you think a fulfilled, happy life looks like 1146 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 3: for you. 1147 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 6: That's a deep question. And then I feel like I'm 1148 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 6: doing a lot of thinking about that at the moment, 1149 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 6: and sometimes you're like, what do I like? 1150 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome again, this is this podcast? Welcome? 1151 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, that could be the name about the podcast. 1152 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: What do I like? What do I like? What's our hobbies? 1153 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: Who is she I think? 1154 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 6: You know? 1155 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 3: Like? 1156 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 6: Because the Olympics always seemed far fetched, I definitely tried 1157 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 6: to develop myself outside of the sport to not have 1158 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 6: you know, disappointment or bad results or like average results 1159 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 6: just be my sense of identity, because that's the reality. 1160 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 6: Sport can be pretty brutal when you're just investing in 1161 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 6: that and you feel like the results aren't paying. It's 1162 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 6: really easy to kind of attach your identity and your 1163 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 6: self worth to results, and especially you know, as young 1164 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 6: female athletes, that can be really challenging. So always had 1165 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 6: something on the side to kind of, you know, make 1166 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 6: me feel like I was also good in another domain, 1167 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 6: and so I did a lot of studied in media, 1168 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 6: did management, did a master's at Sydney UNY, and then 1169 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 6: went to do like a huge internship in Switzerland in 1170 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 6: twenty twenty during COVID, And that's when I realized that, 1171 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 6: oh wow, like there's life outside of sport and you 1172 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 6: can go and create also other opportunities that are amazing, 1173 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 6: and you know, you can really live big emotions even 1174 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 6: though you know sport. Often we say you can only 1175 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 6: live these emotions through like sport and the Olympics and 1176 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 6: things like that. So that kind of made me realize, Oh, 1177 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 6: there's life outside of this. But I realized I actually 1178 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 6: still really love my sport and I want to, you know, 1179 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 6: give it a big crack. But I think today I 1180 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 6: am kind of like in this this like into what's 1181 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 6: the world, like this phase where I am just doing 1182 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 6: sport and because it's the first year that I can 1183 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 6: live off my passion and give back to different ways, 1184 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 6: do school talks, do you know, different corporate talks or 1185 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 6: things like that, and feel like I'm you know, giving 1186 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 6: back or doing valuable things. But I do miss having 1187 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 6: like a job on the side or something else that 1188 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 6: kind of is outside of sport. And that's where I'm 1189 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 6: kind of figuring out my next steps of you know, 1190 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 6: what I do, because I know it's not just kayaking, 1191 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 6: but I feel like I'm trying to kind of figure 1192 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 6: out what that is and dabbling in different areas or yeah, 1193 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm open to like career mentoring at. 1194 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 2: This stage, Same babe, same again, Welcome, welcome again. 1195 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 5: And we only say that through the lens of we 1196 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 5: love what we do. 1197 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: But I also think sometimes you sit back and you're like, 1198 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 3: what else is out there? 1199 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: What is like? Or do we now? Do we keep 1200 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 2: and again? Do you keep applying your training? 1201 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 3: Like do you go into administration in sport after you 1202 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: stop being an athlete because obviously you're studying, would lean 1203 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 3: that way? Or do you try something? Do you open 1204 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 3: a home just for greyhounds? 1205 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 6: You know, my god, you know my dream. My dream 1206 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 6: is to have like a sanctuary where I have like donkeys, greyhounds, 1207 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 6: different like rehomed animals, horses. But then I'm like, but 1208 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 6: then I can't travel. Then I can't do you know, 1209 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 6: hiking in the summer in the Alps and things like that, 1210 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 6: which is also something that we love skiing in winter. 1211 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 6: I'm definitely a huge traveler and so I've landed my 1212 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 6: dream sponsorship in that sense with Intrepid, which is a 1213 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 6: travel company, and actually going to Antarctica in March, which 1214 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 6: is so excited about. So yeah, I can't have a 1215 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 6: sanctuary if I'm going traveling as well. 1216 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 3: And dear listeners any one day if you miss that context, 1217 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 3: they have a greyhound. 1218 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 2: I just didn't. 1219 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 5: Randomly that wasn't the animal that first came to my 1220 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 5: mind that. 1221 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: You went with donkeys. You went with donkeys as your 1222 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: first thing. I was like, of course you did the 1223 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 1: work horses of the world. 1224 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: Yes, someone thinking. 1225 00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 6: The donkeys have incredible characters as well. Funny. That's but 1226 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 6: people don't realize how funny they are. And I am 1227 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 6: such a fan. It's like my Instagram is a lot 1228 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 6: of donkeys. 1229 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1230 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this I love see now I did not 1231 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: know that about you, but I love you even more. 1232 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: But I also from the very beginning, the second that 1233 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 3: we met, I said to Georgie, I was like, Miami 1234 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 3: and I became friends. 1235 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 2: But more the point she's so one of out the 1236 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 2: whole way through this chat when you're. 1237 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Like, I'm emerged girl, Georgie's just looked at me as 1238 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 3: if you're like with this glare, as if to be like, 1239 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: did we just become best friends? 1240 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I think because she would have every badge every body. 1241 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: I have final question from us, no Ami unless we 1242 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: think of others, because we've spent you know, nineteen hours 1243 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: talking to you at this point. But I mean, the 1244 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: relationship between you and Jess, it is so special. Gelemy 1245 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: and I both have sisters. We can understand the comparisons 1246 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and the rivalry to a certain extent, and we've never 1247 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: had Olympic gold on the line or an Olympic qualification 1248 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: on the line. Firstly, it's a two prong question. First like, 1249 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: how do you navigate that as a pairing because you're 1250 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: still so so close, anyone can see that bond. And secondly, 1251 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I know Jess is doing something pretty special at the moment, 1252 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: so I want to give you a chance to give 1253 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: that a shout out. But yeah, talk to me about 1254 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: the bond between you two. 1255 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 6: It's definitely special and unique. I think something that we're 1256 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 6: both really aligned on is that sport is quite sleeding 1257 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 6: and it is just a specific chapter in our lives. 1258 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 6: And then we have hopefully a very long life together 1259 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 6: as close sisters. And my mum is an only child 1260 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 6: and so she's always wanted us to be, you know, 1261 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 6: friends and close and to have each other, and it 1262 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,959 Speaker 6: is easy for that to be kind of ruptured through 1263 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 6: sport and especially just having one person go to the Olympics, 1264 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 6: and it is definitely challenging at times. But just as 1265 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 6: someone that she's just so like humble and caring and generous, 1266 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 6: it is hard to be mad at her. Is hard 1267 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 6: to be jealous of her. 1268 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 2: That's annoying. 1269 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, excels in every bloody domain. Was ducks 1270 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 6: of her school, got a ninety nine point one atar 1271 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 6: Like you know, you think, well, I'm just going to 1272 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 6: be the disappointment. This is character, But I think, you know, 1273 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 6: she's so generous in that sense that she's always tried 1274 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 6: to lift me up with her and for Kia Cross 1275 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 6: when we knew that there was just one quota, she 1276 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 6: was my sparring partner. She even was like, look, I 1277 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 6: know a lot of like different contacts that could help 1278 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 6: you handle with nerves and and things like that. You know, 1279 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 6: she was definitely a big mentor in that sense. And 1280 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 6: I think what I'm so like happy and proud of 1281 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 6: is that We've got to be on that Olympic team 1282 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 6: together because Jess has previously been the only girl on 1283 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 6: an Olympic team, and knowing that we could be like 1284 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,439 Speaker 6: you know, hype girls for each other on that Olympic team, 1285 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 6: and that she could as an experienced I don't want 1286 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 6: to say veteran Olympian, but you know, experience full time olympian, 1287 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 6: could see like the magic through my eyes of a newbie, 1288 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 6: of like a golden retriever, easily excited, and and for 1289 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 6: her she could be for me, she could be my 1290 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 6: mentor and like someone that could help me deal with 1291 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 6: the pressure and the nerves, and so we really you know, 1292 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 6: balanced each other out. And to see her win no 1293 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 6: matter how, you know, when I haven't been on the 1294 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 6: Olympic team, or even if I missed this, it would 1295 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 6: have been a win for the sport, a win for me, 1296 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 6: a win for you know, her obviously above all. But 1297 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 6: it really is such a you know, how hard someone's 1298 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 6: work that you know they're deserving. So I think there's 1299 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 6: obviously inherently been like frustration as to how come I 1300 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 6: can't learn as quickly as her? How come she's so good? 1301 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 6: How Come I didn't get all the special ingredients of 1302 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 6: the magic ingredients that she has. How Come I'm so 1303 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 6: slow to like, you know, learn things. But it's not 1304 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 6: at her and she's really done everything she could to 1305 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 6: like lift me up with her, and that's something that 1306 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 6: I'm incredibly grateful for. And now we have these memories 1307 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 6: to share for the rest of our lives, and I 1308 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 6: think it's it's definitely special. But you know, even tomorrow, 1309 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 6: I might be like, we might do Ki cross and 1310 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 6: she might beat me, and I'll hold a bit of resentment. 1311 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 6: You know, that's fine, but I'll be like, it's never adults, 1312 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 6: let me have this one. But I think, you know, 1313 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 6: what we shared was so so incredible, and she really is, 1314 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 6: you know, someone that inspires me so much in different 1315 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 6: aspects and areas that she does. And obviously being on 1316 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 6: the Olympic Athletes Committee Athletes Commission of the International Olympic Committee, 1317 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 6: I got to see and do the Congress with her 1318 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 6: in March, and to see her in a different role 1319 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 6: as well, and the value she brings with all these 1320 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 6: incredibly you know, intelligent or like important people in a 1321 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 6: room was just mind blowing for me to also see that. 1322 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's been really amazing to me on that 1323 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 6: team and to be with her, but also to realize, 1324 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 6: you know, what she brings to the Pig team more 1325 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 6: to the Olympic movement, because I think It's really easy, 1326 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 6: especially when you're like in the same family or in 1327 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 6: the same sport, to like dismiss someone's impressiveness or to 1328 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 6: dismiss someone's like talent and what they bring because you 1329 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 6: kind of just get so used to it. 1330 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 5: You're almost built up an immunity to it. 1331 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 6: I think so and I think around it. So yeah, yeah, 1332 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 6: and it's been really special. 1333 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 3: It's so interesting listening to you talk to me because 1334 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 3: in a weird way, George, not that we're sisters, but 1335 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 3: we navigate what it's like being in a similar industry. 1336 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 3: You know, both Brunette, so clearly the same person, but 1337 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 3: in sports media where the other will get opportunities and 1338 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 3: you go, oh my god, I'm so happy for you. 1339 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 5: But man, I would have loved to have done that. 1340 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, But in all of that context, it's really special 1341 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 3: bomb where it's like you can talk to that person 1342 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 3: about things that are going on in your professional life 1343 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, and you're the only one. 1344 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 6: Who gets this. Yeah, and that's the reality today. Like 1345 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 6: I think there's been a lot of stuff like, oh, 1346 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 6: you knows this, like normal, should I be charging for 1347 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 6: this or should I accept this sort of thing? Like 1348 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 6: obviously I have management as well. But then there's been 1349 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 6: a lot of like life things like oh, you know, 1350 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 6: I feel like I've got so much on my plate, 1351 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 6: I'm not managing this, or like how how do you 1352 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 6: do it? And you know, how do you also find 1353 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 6: ways to come back? Like I think that's the biggest 1354 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 6: thing for me right now is coming back after winning 1355 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 6: gold and trying to still feel important or trying to 1356 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 6: still feel like I have, you know, the ability and 1357 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 6: to back up a performance or to keep kind of 1358 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 6: evolving as a person or finding ways to give back. 1359 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 6: And you know, just just recently has launched this charity 1360 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 6: with high impact athletes. For every clean gate that she 1361 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 6: does on the circuit, she's pledging ten dollars to have 1362 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 6: cleaner water for a lot of you know, vulnerable environments 1363 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 6: or communities and things like that. You think, oh wow, 1364 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 6: you know, it's impressive to be around someone that's constantly 1365 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 6: finding ways to like use a platform and to you know, 1366 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 6: evolve or find ways to to I guess give back. 1367 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 6: And that's kind of where I'm at now. It's like 1368 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 6: I realize I have a platform, I have opportunity potential, 1369 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 6: and it's like what do I do with that because 1370 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 6: you know you don't want it to just be fleeting, 1371 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 6: you don't want it to go, and you want to 1372 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 6: make sure that you've kind of left a legacy. 1373 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Well I know that comparison, as we say on this podcast, 1374 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: is the death of sanity. 1375 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 3: Peep of joy like death sanity. 1376 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 1: And as people who would consider themselves to be quite 1377 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: high achievers in life, No Amy, it's good to see 1378 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 1: that we still got so much talk. So like, can 1379 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: only say thank you so much for making our second 1380 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: official Amy. 1381 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 6: Day on Too. 1382 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 1: A little bit extra special because you are just such 1383 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: a joy. We fell in love with you, our listeners 1384 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: fell in love with you, and the country fell in 1385 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: love with you, and hey, potentially even Beyonce content. 1386 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 6: You know, you just got a girl can dream, you know. 1387 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, Georgie. 1388 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 3: Thanks you drop in anytime, my friends. Oh yeah, because 1389 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 3: we will not be dropping in on the kayaks. 1390 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 6: You never know,