1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line and due to catch 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: up with us about the dal and volunteer Coast Guard 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: is the Federal member for Solomon. Luke Gosling. Good morning 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: to you, Luke, Good morning Katie. Look, before we get 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: into the Coast Guard discussion, I might just ask you, 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: obviously you've seen or heard this news that Alan Joyce 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: advising the board that he's going to bring ford his 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: retirement by two months to help the company accelerate its renewal. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: You and I have spoken on numerous occasions about the 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: cost of flights and the impact for people living I 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: should say in Regional Australia, what do you make of 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: this announcement. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: I think it's good news, but I think the board 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: probably suggested that it might be a good idea for 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: him to move on before he does any more damage 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: to the brand. I mean, your listeners would have seen 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: over the last few weeks, on the back of record 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: profits for the company and the incredibly high airfairs that 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: they're charging people from Regional Australia to stay connected to 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: then not even be wanting to look after people who 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: weren't able to use flights during COVID and then have 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: to backflip on that there was the bit of damage 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: being done to the brand. And I think it's great 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: news that he's moving on and I wish Vanessa all 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: the best. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, he was not, you know, to be really 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: blunt about it, he wasn't really a friend of Northern Australia. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't think. 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: Over at least the last couple of years, we feel 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: as though we've been getting jammed. 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: To put it politely, Yeah, we've been getting the rough 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: end of the stick for sure, and that's something I've 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 2: made clear to Quantis people continuously, and you know, particularly 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: as a foundation jurisdiction of the airline and so important 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: to our nation. I've had a look online this morning 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: and it's cost him seven hundred bucks if you need 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: to get down to our springs today, and territorians I 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: think will hopefully see some change now that there's going 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: to be some different leadership there and I'm sure the 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Chief Minister and I certainly will be endeavoring to meet 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: with her as early as we can and just to 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: put forward our position. It should be clear to everyone, 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: but we're absolutely vital as the northern capital of Australia 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: to our relationship within with the regions of Australia and 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: into our Indo specific region and further abroad. So yeah, 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: hopefully better times ahead. 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: Look I hope. So, I mean, does the rest of 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the federal Labor government agree, Like there's been a lot 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: of discussion about the decision to not allow Qatar Airways 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: to have additional flights. There's been a lot of discussion 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: about about different members of Parliament with the Chairman's Lounge 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: memberships and that kind of thing. I mean, is every 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: member of Labor here on the same page that QUANTUS 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: really needs to stay up and look after Australians, particularly 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: those living in regional Australia. 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people living in regional Australia representing regional 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Australia electorates certainly are all of one voice, and that 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: is that Quannas hasn't been doing the best Buyas we know, 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: they wanted to recruit recoup some funding that was boss 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: during the pandemic, but also during the pandemic they were 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: supported by taxpayers enormous degree and it was just an 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: absolute wasted opportunity, missed opportunity and totally dodgy that the 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: former coalition government didn't get a share in Kunas for 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: the taxpayer during that period. But you know that done. 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: When it comes to Qatar. I mean, we've got a 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: lot of competition in Australia when it comes to our 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: airline to many many airlines servicing US, and Qatar is 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: able to put on more seats to come into the country. 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: They're able to do that now. 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: So I think so what they are able to now, 71 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: they are able to put on extra flights, because that 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: was like, that was something that was that was certainly 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: noted in the national media that they'd been they weren't 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: able to do what they were what they were pushing for, 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: and that realistically the federal government and indeed Quantas were 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: the ones that you know, Quantas had had stepped in 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: and said that they didn't you know, they didn't want 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: them to be able to have those additional flights. 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously the federal government doesn't just listen to Quanas. 80 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: We want to do the right thing by Australians and 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: give them more options. But the options are with Qatar, 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: for example, to put on bigger planes that can carry 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: more people, so more seats that are available, but there's 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: also the restriction on the number of flights is just 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: for the major capitals, So the Kataria Ways is able 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: to put on more flights into other areas of Australia. 87 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: Cans for example, they can put on more flights into 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: the can but into the major capitals they can put 89 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: on more by using bigger planes. And there's going to 90 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: be more cafe specific quite coming into Australia as well, 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: So there's going to be more options for Australian than 92 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Quanus does need competition lead they can't. 93 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's move along because I do want to have a 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: chat to you about the Darwin Volunteer Coast Guard. It's 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: something that that I know is dear to the hearts 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: of so many Territorians and it's set to close following 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: a decision by the Australian Volunteer Coast Guard in July. 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Now we caught up with the Darwin Volunteer Coast Guard 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: last week and they outlined the fact that the National 100 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: body had written to the Darwin flotilla notifying them of 101 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the closure about two weeks ago, sparking concerns that well 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that's you know, our ability on the water is going 103 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: to be significantly reduced and the ability to go out 104 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: and help people when they're in need. But it also 105 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, we've got the Pete Davies that is out 106 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: on the water, a valuable, valuable asset to Territorians. Right now, 107 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: what is going to happen here. 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Well, they've got a big meeting tomorrow and I know 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: that Paul. I'm down here in Canberra, but I know 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: that Paul Kirby's sitting in on that meeting, and that's 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: with the National Volunteer Coastguard MOM to work through these issues. 112 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: And really I hope we get to a position quickly 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: where the National want to see volunteer Coastguard services continue 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: in Darwin. We'll be sending that message to them very directly, 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: in very clear terms, but we need to make sure 116 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: that they're sustainable into the future. Now there's generous sponsors 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: like Impacts and others that have been helping them to 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: meet their operational needs, fuel, training, etc. But they really 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: haven't had their own home for some time. They've sort 120 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: of been in limbo and that's given the National mod 121 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: the opportunity to say to try and wind them up 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: and take their resource. 123 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: To me, this is garbage, you know, like to me, 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: this is absolute garbage. We've got a situation here as 125 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: I understand it, Please correct me if I'm wrong, where 126 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government, the Federal government sponsors have all 127 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: funded the Volunteer Coast Guard at different times. You've got 128 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Territorians who are volunteering their time to enable this to 129 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: happen day in and day out. They're giving up their time, 130 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: they're putting in an enormous effort, and now you've got 131 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: the national mob wanting to step in and take the assets. 132 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: To me, that is just absolute bullshit to put it bluntly. 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no good form of words, Katie, it certainly is. 134 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: But at the same time we've got to make sure 135 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: that they're sustainable into the future. So like any crisis, 136 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: we should see this as an opportunity to really wrap 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: our arms around the Volunteer Coastguard. From my perspective, for 138 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: some time, I've had two point five million dollars there 139 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: for a facility out of the Elizabeth River for Volunteer 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: Coast Guard to share. I think having a home is 141 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: really important for the Volunteer Coast Guard. We'll work through 142 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: the issues when it comes to setting up their governance 143 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: and finances for the future, but there are as you say, 144 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: great sponsors around supporters of the Volunteer Coast Guard that 145 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 2: wanted to continue. It absolutely must continue. There's no way 146 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: that a place like Darwin should not have a volunteer 147 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Coast Guard. It just has to happen, and it will happen. 148 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: We'll get them back on their feet and we'll get 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: them clear in guided from all the stakeholders involved about 150 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: you know what people can contribute to them so that 151 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: their volunteers can connect with the Volunteer Coast Guard and 152 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: we can get the Pete Davies and their other vessel 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: add on the waters keeping territory and. 154 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: Say, well, Luke Gosling, let's talk again once that meeting 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: has happened and we'll do our best to stay up 156 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: to date with exactly what's going on. But we'll talk 157 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: to you again about that very so mate, we are 158 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: going to have to roll, but thanks so much for 159 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: your support on the weekend as well at run with Dad. 160 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Good to see you and your young fella there, and 161 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time this morning. 162 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Well done, Catie, ten years, incredible effort and well done 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: to everyone who supported, sponsored, came along and to those 164 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: who ran and walk. It's a great event for any 165 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: really important cause. 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Well done, Thank you, Thanks Louke. I appreciate your time,