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Speaker 1: Obviously, we caught up with Fawn in Alice Springs a

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Speaker 1: the Member for Namajira, Bill Yan, joins me on the

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Bill, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 3: How are you going?

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Speaker 2: Not too bad?

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Speaker 1: Bill, I know that you've been trying to work with

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Speaker 1: Fawn to really yeah, I guess to really just try

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Speaker 1: an incredibly difficult situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, the staff that Fawn and her son have

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Speaker 3: been through is really horrendous, and I think anyone has

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Speaker 3: seen that vision is really quite harrowing when you see that,

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Speaker 3: you see what those kids were doing to her son,

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Speaker 3: and of course then yeah, they've come back on Friday

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Speaker 3: to have another go and luckily enough the young fellow

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Speaker 3: Principals office. But it's at a point now for finding

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Speaker 3: I don't blame her, right, it's a horrible situation. So

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Speaker 3: she's trying to get out of Alice now and she

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Speaker 3: because she works for the Department Help and she was

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Speaker 3: sort of write a letter to Health and I've spoken

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Speaker 3: to the Chief Ministry as well about providing some assistance

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Speaker 3: and maybe a compassionate transfer to kid on up to Darwin.

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Speaker 3: But of course she's going to need a little bit

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Speaker 3: more help. I think it's all one thing to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's great to get to darn but she's gonna be

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Speaker 3: looking for accommodation of course, and maybe a little bit

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Speaker 3: of help in that move, and of course a new

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Speaker 3: school for a son. So yeah, that's where we need

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Speaker 3: our community spirit in the charity to sort of step up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So, Bill So has that Has the transfer

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Speaker 3: I think that they're just going through the process now, Katie, So,

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Speaker 3: I said, I sent the letter through yesterday, and I said,

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Speaker 3: I said, I sort of spoke with Natasha Fhiles on

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Speaker 3: situation and give her a bit of her heads up

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Speaker 3: and yeah, look, I really hope that help see the

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Speaker 3: and we want to keep it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think they have to bill.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Look, they're going to have to.

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Speaker 1: It's clear that things are not okay for her and

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Speaker 1: you know, I am sure that our communit everybody listening

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I said, I said, I met with one

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Speaker 3: She absolutely petrified it something further is going to happen

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Speaker 3: What I've seen last week is the level of viciousness

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 1: And Bill, you know, I think it's sort of points

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the concerning thing, Katie. Look, we all

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Speaker 3: Catherine Stuffing the same thing. But this level of lawlessness

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Speaker 2: Left absolutely, Bill. When is that meeting of Aboriginal leaders happening?

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Speaker 3: to see that happening because it shows support from right

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Speaker 3: it's a great initiative. I wish to be absolute best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on them, and I hope that's you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I said said it's great to see

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Speaker 3: play a major role. We'll wait, so what comes out

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Speaker 3: that comes from this report. But yeah, we said we

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Speaker 2: That's exactly spot on, Bill.

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Speaker 2: For right around the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: As Marian Scrimjaw had suggested on the show last week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think so, Katie. I think it was pulled

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Speaker 3: in haste. It was pulled without proper consideration. Drop it

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Speaker 3: those communities need the time to have those discussions within

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Speaker 3: their communities, within their leaders, to decide what they want

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Speaker 3: to do. It was pulled preemptory and we've seen the

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Speaker 3: And I really support what Marian said the other week

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Speaker 3: need to stop using that term. This is about protecting women,

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Speaker 3: kids and families out in the bush, So that comes

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Speaker 3: first and foremost over anything else. Yes, that's what we

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill Yan, the member FORANEMA, Jira, I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Please keep in contact with us,

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Speaker 1: and I know that Fonon will keep in contact with

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Speaker 1: tracking there with that transfer and if that happens, any

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Speaker 1: support that she does require in Darwin, and we'll make

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Speaker 1: sure that our listeners are made.

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Speaker 2: Aware of it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, and look, thanks for listeners up in Darwen

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Speaker 3: and for supporting fon if she needs to meet up

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'd appreciate any support that people and Dawn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bell, thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, Katie, thank you, thank you,