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Speaker 1: right now, and a voice that you haven't heard for

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Speaker 1: a little while, but one that you'll definitely recognize, Jerry

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Speaker 1: would good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, Hey, good morning, Katie. Are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good, lovely to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm lovely to go beyond the bear of the line

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Speaker 1: with you this morning, Jerry, because there's plenty happening out

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Speaker 1: your way, isn't there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's certainly lots on. I mean, you've been talking

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Speaker 2: to the Fibrigade, so obviously we've had our share of

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Speaker 2: fires out this part of the world. So I think

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Speaker 2: all those volunteers and the regulars, both of the Fire

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Speaker 2: Service and the bush Fires Council. I've seen the planes

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Speaker 2: flying lower over the rural area regularly lately, and don't

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Speaker 2: not wonder how these fires started. I can't imagine them

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Speaker 2: got some idiots around the place that just like to

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Speaker 2: light fires at the wrong time of year.

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Speaker 1: You would really hope not, wouldn't you, Jerry? And you know,

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that most of the people that

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Speaker 2: That's right. Whether it's there's just some lone people who

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Speaker 2: just think it's fun lading a fire. It's just coming year.

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Speaker 2: And for most people in the rural area, that's the

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Speaker 2: last thing they want. They're trying to protect their property.

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Speaker 2: They live on five acre or twenty acre blocks, and

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Speaker 2: they don't want you know, sires damaging their not only

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Speaker 2: And we know that fires do get stuck into a

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Speaker 2: mango plantation called a lot of damage. Certainly not something

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Speaker 2: we need.

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Speaker 1: No, that is exactly right now, Jerry. I know that

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Speaker 1: there's a few things going on as well, or a

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Speaker 1: few concerns that you'd raised with me. One thing you

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Speaker 2: That's right, Hook, My dogs have decided to welcome someone,

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Speaker 2: so you've hit some barking in the background.

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Speaker 1: That's all right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I mean it's great that we're getting what

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Speaker 2: I call the rural in Parmisansov station built in the

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Speaker 2: Howard Springs area. But there was some lovely bush in

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Speaker 2: front of that fire station. We didn't do any didn't

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Speaker 2: lovely manicure front lawn they put in there in front there,

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Speaker 2: but they decided to clear. Ninety five percent of that

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Speaker 2: Was there when the bus Stepo was there, didn't cause

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Speaker 2: It's sort of bylieving that natural vegetation, you don't It

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Speaker 2: doesn't require watering, requires three little maintenance and reflects where

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Speaker 2: not in Parmison. So someone decided that they think they

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Speaker 2: I'm asking the ministers. I've written the minister's yestery. Can

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Speaker 2: me why people need to do things like that. They

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you've written to the minister though, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: Look, sometimes dammage done to vegetation if it's not too severe, Kenry.

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Speaker 2: The vegetation where he read will revegetate pretty hardy stuff,

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Speaker 2: a lot of those trees. But of course if they

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there's a good reason. We should look

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jerry, I understand as well. There was some or

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't know whether this person is even the

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Speaker 2: We believe it's a group of people. Where they're from.

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Speaker 2: We don't know where they're drifted in from, Parmisan or

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Speaker 2: local people. And I'd say they're probably older kids, not

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Speaker 2: young kids. There's a beer bottles around yesterday, broken beer

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Speaker 2: sure if they could let the council know or that

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Speaker 2: The poor ladies does the hygiene in the toilets there.

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Speaker 2: I had to clean out all this poop and toilet

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Speaker 2: roll stuff down there. So you know, you wonder about

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Speaker 2: we've got new cricket nets. You're just about completed. It's

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Speaker 2: been built for the community. And you get some meat

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Speaker 2: dick heads. It's come along and just a rumor for everybody.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what their logic is. It just

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Speaker 1: Well that's exactly right, and I think you hit the

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Speaker 1: So it's just you know, it's not on them when

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Speaker 2: No, I mean it puts you know, people used to

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Speaker 2: were talking about before, yes, and we're talking about respect.

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Speaker 2: And in many cases I suppose they are Aboriginal, not entirely.

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Speaker 2: get them out there where they learn, get a bit

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Speaker 2: think it's so sad when I hear the stories I

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Speaker 1: That was shocked and hot.

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Speaker 2: But we can't stand still, no, and we have to

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Speaker 2: the street. Yeah, you got to go separate them out

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Speaker 2: so they can't go out with them mates, they go

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is absolutely shocking. Yeah, look, Jerry, something we've

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Speaker 1: got to start thinking differently to what we are right

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Speaker 1: this vision now this morning of what these kids allegedly

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, to turn it round if I meant to. Actually,

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Speaker 2: get them away from all the Wisbang computers and Facebook

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Speaker 2: do some work, get a little bit of education, get

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Speaker 2: don't think we ask people often enough what they were

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Speaker 1: Sometimes absolutely, Hey Jerry, before I let you go this morning,

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Speaker 1: But before I let you go. Cycling path there's calls

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, well you know so far it's taken a

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Speaker 2: down the old railway line from Darwen to now cool Inger.

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Speaker 2: I'm always said, well, look, you know, when we need

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Speaker 2: to preserve that line. One way to preserve it is

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Speaker 2: to continue with as a cycle path. Now we can

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Speaker 2: there's already a cycle path on the out of my way.

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Speaker 2: That would be a fantastic thing to the tourists. You

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Speaker 2: go to cool Inger. There's plenty of places there. Look.

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Speaker 2: I use it regularly every morning and on the weekends.

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Speaker 2: Amazing number of people are using it walking, riding, you

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Speaker 2: lots of people using it, keeping fit. But there's also

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Speaker 2: lots of tourists using it. And the thing is the

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Speaker 2: government has spent a lot of money on a mountain

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Speaker 2: boat pass I think down in Central Australia, which is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: They also ought to be looking at perhaps having a

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Speaker 2: mountain boat trail going from munamart right down through Bachelor

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Speaker 2: to Adelaide River, and that would be great too. Would

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Speaker 2: be preserving the the railway line, the history of it,

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Speaker 2: to Adelaide River as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jerry would It is always good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you. You're going to have to go beyond the bear

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Speaker 1: of the line with us again in a few weeks,

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Speaker 1: I reckon. I think a lot of our listeners be

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Speaker 1: very happy to hear you back on the radio.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, I'll go back to watching the dishes.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Jerry. Always good to catch up mate.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Than see