1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: fuel speculation of baby number four Tyson Fury's daughter's shock 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: engagement at a sixteenth birthday party, and The Daily Mail 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: thinks they know why Tammy Hembro was friend zoned by 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. But first, Sky Wheatley's baby daddy, Lockey War 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: has shared disturbing footage of him drinking and burning items 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: at their home. Locke's erratic behavior comes as Sky confirmed 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: the couple's breakup during an Instagram live last week. Breakup 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: rumors have been following the couple for months now. We 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: did cover the story in depth on Friday show, so 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: if you missed it, go back and have a listen. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: But Kay, can you tell us the latest? I have 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: to admit I found the footage quite unsettling when it 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: popped up on Locke's Instagram story on Friday night, and 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: it came off the back of Sky accusing Lockie of 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: cheating on her in her Instagram live a few days earlier. Now. 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: The vision was filmed from Lockie's perspective, and it was 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: at nighttime, and he showed himself standing in the backyard 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: of the property he is renovating with sky looking back 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: at the house that was all lit up, and he 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: panned down to the beer he was drinking, and in 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the background you could hear he was listening to music. 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: In the next frame, Lockie showed himself walking through the 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: empty house and he stopped in the kitchen where there 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: was this big pile of packed boxes, and he captured 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: the footage a couple of beers deep gin. Next in 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the following stories, the packed boxes were then outside in 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: the backyard and it appears Locke had poured flammable liquid 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: on the boxes and a line leading from the boxes 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: to him, and so he lit the boxes on fire. 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: It seemed to be for dramatic effect for the instagram's 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: story because, as he said, it was this line of 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: fire that then quickly moved to burn the boxes. And 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: it was the music he was playing in the background 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that seemed to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah, 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the song Lockie was listening to it was quite telling. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: It was called will Do and it was by TV 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: on the radio and the lyrics that played said any 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: time will do what choice of words will take me 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: back to you? Your love makes a fool of you. 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: You can't seem to understand a heart doesn't play by 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: rules and love has its own demands. But I'll be 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: there to take care of you if you ever should 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: decide that you don't want to waste your life in 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: the middle of a love stick La La By. I 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: would have been really interested to see the behind the 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: scenes filming of this Instagram story because I feel like 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: he waited for that particular lyric to start playing for 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: him to then light everything on fire because the song 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: was actually playing in the background. It's not like he 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: added the music on top when he uploaded the story. Now. 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Fortunately it pears Sky and the couple's young sons, Forest 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: and Bear weren't at the house. They still appear to 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: be holidaying on the Gold Coast. I really hope that 57 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Lockie's okay. He has become one of my favorite boyfriends 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: of Instagram, and obviously this breakup has hit him very hard. 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: We did joke on Friday Show that we enjoy the 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: rogueness of some of his Instagram stories. I mean, there 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: was that infamous sausages and saunas in so I didn't 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: I would like to see more humor, not so much this. 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: This was a bit disturbing. Yeah, as I said earlier, 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: I found the whole thing pretty unsettling, considering we didn't 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: know what was actually in the boxes, Like was he 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: burning Sky's possessions where they his own? Was it just 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: garbage that was inside the house because they're doing renovations, 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: like it was all very confusing. It did appear that 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: this incident was alcohol fueled, because he did show that 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: he was drinking. It was a Friday night. You know, 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: it's sad that he appeared to be by himself. He 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: obviously also knows the eyeballs are going to be on 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: his Instagram at the moment. When we shared a link 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to that story, we had so many click throughs. It's 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: probably the most we've had in a while. There are 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people interested in this breakup, and I'm 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: sure he's noticed an influx of people clicking on his 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Instagram stories, so he wanted to send a message or 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: show the mindset that he's in at the moment. Yeah, 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I just really hope everyone that's involved is okay, because again, 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: we're not really sure what message he was trying to send. 82 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: It was all very confusing. He's not a big Footy 83 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: fan and they were just mates. So the Daily Mail 84 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: claims to know the real reason why Bailey Smith publicly 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: friend zoned Tammy Hembro. The publication ran with some downright 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: sexist quotes that have got us really riled up, So 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Well? The publication ran with 88 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: the story that Matt Szakowski's friends have gone to Bailey 89 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Smith and warned him about dating her. So an unnamed 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: insider was quoted as saying a few of Matt's mates 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: got in Bailey's ear and told him what had really 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: gone down. It didn't paint Tammy in the best light. 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: Bailey appreciated the heads up and it definitely made him 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: rethink whether it was a good idea. Another insider allegedly 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: said he was open to seeing where things could go, 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: but in the end he called time. I actually wouldn't 97 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: be surprised if this has happened, because I think we 98 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, but we received 99 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: a couple of dms, and other people in the media 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: have been receiving dms from Matt Zakowski's friends who are 101 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: pushing a particular story about Tammy Hembrow and the reason 102 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: why they broke up, and it is not a flattering 103 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: portrayal Tammy by any means. I think it's disappointing that 104 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: if this is the case, that Bailey actually took her 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: on board, because you know, someone's ex is always going 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: to be peddling negative stories about them. Yeah, but I 107 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: want to point out, we don't even know if this 108 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: is true. The Daily Mail could have just created this 109 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: story because they've heard that the friends are pushing a 110 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: particular story true that Bailey believes them. Yeah, very true. 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail also alleged that Bailey had already moved 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: on and was quote knee deep in dms with women 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: aged twenty one and twenty two. The Insider was quoted 114 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: as saying, he's let a couple of girls know the 115 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Tammy chapter is over. He's dodged a bullet and he 116 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: knows it. He's back on the prower for women his 117 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: own age with less baggage. So there's a real emphasis 118 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: on the fact that Tammy is older, she's a mum, 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: she's thirty one, whereas he's more interested in going for 120 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the younger jen Z girls. Oh my god, I was 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: so disgusted by these sexist and ages quotes. It's like 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: she's thirty one, for goodness sake, she's not even old. 123 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Like it's so ridiculous. And I really think this all 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: comes down to Bailey's choice of words during the Carl 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and JACKIEO interview, because by saying we're just friends, it 126 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: really gives this connotation that Tammy was the one wanting 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: more and he said no. Last week we did say 128 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: that we were surprised that Bailey Smith was allowed to 129 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: actually appear on the Carl and Jackie O Show because 130 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: it seemed like he'd been told by the Geelong coaching 131 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: staff that he needed to focus on football rather than 132 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: his personal life. Because I mean, if you're a Geelong fan, 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be pretty pissed off if he suddenly starts 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to perform badly and you're thinking, well, it's because he's 135 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: got so much media focus on this new relationship. So 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: his decision to take part in an interview there was 137 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: clearly going to be about Tammy right before the Brownlow. 138 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: It didn't really make sense and I'm starting to think 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: now that it was a strategic move because by being 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the one to address the relationship and say we're just friends, 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: it gave Bailey all of the power. It made it 142 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: look like he was the one who pulled the pin 143 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: on things. Yeah, and it didn't take long for most 144 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: of us, I think us included to show our internalized 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: misogyny and assume that Tammy was the one who was rejected. 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: And it's crazy when you reflect on the fact that 147 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Tammy is the one who is the self made millionaire 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: in this relationship. She's got three successful businesses, yet we 149 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: still inherently measure her success on being chosen by a 150 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: man to attend a football event. I mean, an event that, 151 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: let's face it, she was too big to attend anyway. Yeah, 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean there was a reason why everyone was so 153 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: excited to see if she stepped on the red carpet 154 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: or not, because she would have absolutely eclipsed that event. Yeah. 155 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: And it made me reflect on my visceral reaction to 156 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: listening to Bailey friend zoning Tammy on the Kyle and 157 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Jackie oshow because I felt sick. It made me feel 158 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: embarrassed and kind of reflect on all those times that 159 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: I've been rejected by men and sadly, I think it's 160 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: just ingrained in us as women to measure our worth 161 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: on if a man chooses us. And I think we 162 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: all sort of put ourselves in Tammy's shoes. And I 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: mean I felt very sorry for her, But in reality, 164 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: who knows what happened. I mean, Tammy may have said, oh, 165 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to go 166 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: to the brown Low. I've got school holidays with my kids. 167 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: I've got a holiday booked in. And maybe Bailey was 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: the one that felt rejected and got on the Kyl 169 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: and Jackie Show and was like, oh no, I've friends 170 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: owned her. Like, we just don't know what's actually occurred. 171 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: We also don't know if they're back on now that 172 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: the Grand Final is over, particularly because Bailey Smith and 173 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: his team did not win the Grand Finals. Not a 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: good day for Famous. I mean, I assume he's probably 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: on a bit of a bender on Saturday night, so 176 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: maybe Tammy might have got a drunken text message. Who knows, well, 177 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: as we're recording this on a Monday afternoon, he's currently 178 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: on mad Monday. Look. I think that any girl who's 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: ever dreamed of dating a football and od's it's not 180 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: a good time to start things up at the end 181 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: of the season. There's just so many parties and carry on. 182 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Mad Monday is probably the worst down the calendar for 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: every woman who dates an AFL player, like, oh, he'd 184 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: be absolutely awful. I remember when we were very much 185 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: into the footy guys, when we were you know, nineteen 186 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: twenty and anyone from Adelaide knows that you'd always go 187 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: to the Grand on a Sunday night at the end 188 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: of the footy season because that's where all of the 189 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: players would be, but they would be running an absolute mark. 190 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: The other hot spot for AFL players was the Marble 191 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Bar back in the day that is now gone. This 192 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: is a really this is a really sad confession, but 193 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I remember you used to have to pay to get 194 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: into the Marble Bar. I think it was ten dollars, 195 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: which would be quite cheap now. And you know, we 196 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: were UNI students back then with a part time job. 197 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: We're like, I'm not wasting the money. So we would 198 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: send one person in to do a lap of the 199 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: marble bar see if there were any footy players in there, 200 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and then the rest of us would invest in going 201 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: in there. God, how tragic. Does this sound? It's just 202 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: so embarrassing reflecting on how you put these footy players 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: on this massive pedestal. All the gen Zettas should be 204 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: happy though, because they now have access to guys like 205 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith on Tinder instead of having to go to 206 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: these awful night clubs or just on Instagram. I think 207 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: it's so much easier to slide into dms these days. 208 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Well even with Instagram now, I think it's easier to 209 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: slide into the DMS. I am embarrassed to put that 210 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: story out there, but I'm confident in doing so because 211 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: I know there will be listeners who, you know, ten 212 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: years ago, were doing the exact same thing. I think 213 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: it's like fifteen years ago, so oh, you forget that. 214 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm thirty six. Getting back to Tammy and Bay. Despite 215 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: Bailey claiming to Carl and Jackie O that Tammy's not 216 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: a footy fan and she would have been bored at 217 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the Brownlow, it appears she still celebrated Grand Final Day 218 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: with her family, so she shared a photo of her 219 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: watching the AFL on the big screen along with two 220 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: laptops playing rugby and horse racing. She actually posted this 221 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: photo to her Instagram grid, So she was keen for 222 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: people to know she watched the game. Is she stamping 223 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: her authorady back over him? Is that what's going? Well? 224 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: The thing is, it's not like it was the full 225 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: TV screen, like you kind of had to look at 226 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: the photo carefully, but you could see it was halftime 227 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: and you could see Geelong and Brisbane and then the 228 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: two laptops. Well, in her defense, who's not watching the 229 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: ground final? I feel like most people get around it. 230 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: What do you think of Snoop Dog? I have to 231 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: call myself out. It was very UnAustralian of me. I 232 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: did not watch one second of it. I didn't watch 233 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: to watch the pregame. So you haven't even seen Snoop 234 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: Dog popping up on TikTok. I've seen bits and pieces 235 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: of it, But I mean, Snoop Dog doesn't really interest 236 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: me like I was interested in Katie Perry. Last year, 237 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: we had a family thing because it was my father 238 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: in law's birthday, and it was so funny watching my 239 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: husband and brother in law flock to the TV to 240 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: watch Snoop DOGG like they were like two teenage boys, like, 241 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: oh my god. So it's clear that they were going 242 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: for a very male dominated audience, and I have to 243 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: say I did get quite excited when he slinked out 244 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: onto the oval, but then I got bored by it. 245 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Like once they had the first song, I was like, 246 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: cause they're not really pump up songs, are they? Very well, 247 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: from what I saw, it was very static, like it 248 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: didn't really move from the stage. I mean, last year 249 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Katie Perry was being driven around the perimeter of the ground. 250 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: I think it's also the fact that Katie Perry has 251 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: so many mainstream bangers. Yeah, that I think both genders enjoy. 252 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, the AFL is very clever because they're 253 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: trying to get international eyeballs on the halftime Well, it's 254 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: not even halftime performance, it's the pregame performance. And it's 255 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: clearly what happened. You can really tell the difference between 256 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: say the AFL and the NFL in terms of their 257 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: halftime show because back in the day it used to 258 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: be just the mascots having a running race. I don't 259 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: know if that's still someone reshare And I don't know 260 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: how long ago this was that Kath and Kim were 261 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: actually part of the pregame entertainment where they did this 262 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: comedy skit where they were singing on stage. Oh, that 263 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: would have been great, and they're like, Wow, we've come 264 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: a long way. I did see on Matsakowski's story the 265 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg was performing at some club in Melbourne and 266 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: he was pretty much front row. Yeah, well, how much 267 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: did they pay Snoop Dogg to appear at the nightclub, 268 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: because didn't he get five million dollars for the AFL 269 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: Grand Final performance? 270 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 271 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he just went rogue and was like, 272 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to do a set here. We kept joking 273 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: that the second the performance was over, he's on his 274 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: private jet just counting his money out of there. Well, 275 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: on the topic of Matsakowski, I feel like he made 276 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a dig at the Tammy Bailey 277 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: situation because he posted a photo on his Instagram story 278 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: of him celebrating Grand Final day and he was wearing 279 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: a Brisbane Bears jersey. So the Brisbane Bears that was 280 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 1: what the Brisbane Lines used to be known as. And 281 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's going for Brisbane. Well, how embarrassing 282 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: would it have been if he got around in a 283 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Geelong gun. Well, he is an Essendon supporter, but he's 284 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: obviously wasn't backing the Victorian team that day with Bailey 285 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Smith playing for Geelong. 286 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even think pregnancy baby until I was complaining 287 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: to Kurt. I was like, oh, I'm pretty sure I'm 288 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: getting my period back, and he was like, You're not pregnant, 289 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: are you. 290 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Sarah's day has been labeled tone deaf after fueling her 291 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: own pregnancy rumors. The og fitness influencer has baited a 292 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: potential fourth pregnancy twice this month and admitted she was 293 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: freaking out over supposed pregnancy symptoms. Kay, can you tell 294 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: us more well? At the start of September, Sarah ta 295 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: Is on TikTok that she was either pregnant with her 296 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: fourth baby or her period was returning. She captured the 297 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: video should it be more concerned or do I keep 298 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: suppressing my internal freak out? And she spoke in length 299 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: about how her pre period and pregnancy symptoms are the same, 300 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: but she actually didn't consider that she could be pregnant 301 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: until her husband Kurt flagged it with her. She then 302 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: said this, I'm not baiting you here. 303 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: I am nine to nine point nine nine nine nine 304 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: nine percent sual. I'm not pregnant, and no, I'm not 305 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: going to go into the conception conversation because you get 306 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: what you get and you don't get upset, meaning. 307 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I tell you what I want and then we leave 308 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the rest. Okay. 309 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: There's just some things on social media that I feel 310 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: like we can just leave. Okay, a little bit TMI 311 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: for me, So I'm pretty positive that I cannot get pregnant. Okay, 312 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: So just take that and just that's all you get. 313 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: It's quite ironic that she claims she's not baiting anyone, 314 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: but started the video saying I could be pregnant with 315 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: my fourth baby, like she knows how the TikTok algorithm works. 316 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: That's going to make people stop and watch her video well, 317 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: particularly because a lot of her followers have been convinced 318 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that she's going to try for baby number four because 319 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: she ended up having three boys and it was quite 320 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: clear that she was hoping for a girl the third 321 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: time around. Yeah, but since she's had her third son, Harlowe, 322 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: it's been very clear to me that she does not 323 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: want to have the newborn experience again because it's been 324 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: very tough for her with him having refluss. Oh, I 325 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: can't even imagine having three kids, especially three boys. I 326 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: probably have a different opinion to U Kate on this one. 327 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm all for the TM. I understand that when it 328 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: comes to pregnancy, you've got to be so careful. But 329 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: we keep saying that we want influences to be more open, 330 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and people aren't sharing things anymore. I'm really enjoying this 331 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: little insight into what's going on behind the scenes because 332 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I think for her, she is very in tune with 333 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: her body and she's realized that something is feeling off. 334 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: She could choose not to share about it, but isn't 335 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: it more interesting that we're hearing about it. I get 336 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. One thing I found really interesting, though, 337 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: is the fact that she doesn't want to speak about contraception, 338 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: because she started her channel talking about hormonal acne and 339 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: coming off the pill, and I got people speculating about, like, well, 340 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: why would she just not say what she's using for contraception. 341 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she necessarily has to go 342 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, but when you're based your channel on 343 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: talking about things like hormonal acne, and then also recently, 344 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: since having children, she's spoken a lot about the process 345 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: that she took to try and conceive. It just seems 346 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: like a natural thing that she would discuss on her 347 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: channel if she's open to talking about fertility, and well, 348 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: we all know she loves a natural path, So maybe 349 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: she's doing quite a unique, very natural method that she 350 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be promoting to her audience. Yeah, I 351 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: think that, I think that could be it now. As expected, 352 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: the video gained traction and hit three hundred and twenty 353 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: four thousand views on TikTok, which is actually quite a 354 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: lot for Sarah on that platform now, despite was saying 355 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: she wasn't baiting her followers. A few weeks later, Sarah 356 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: uploaded a reel that started like this, There's been a. 357 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: Lot happening in my life lately, and last week I 358 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: took a pregnancy test and this is not a joke. 359 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: This is real life now. To push the message even further, 360 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: Sarah had a text on the screen that said I 361 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: took a pregnancy test, and the thumbnail photo of the 362 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: video was Sarah holding a pregnancy test. She then spoke 363 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: about all the pregnancy symptoms she was experiencing and how 364 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: weird it was taking a pregnancy test when she definitely 365 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: knows that she's done having children. She even held the 366 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: pregnancy test in the frame like it was an advert, 367 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: and it was quite strange because it was the brand 368 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: first response and I'm so used to seeing influences with 369 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Clear Blue. I was like, hang on, what is this 370 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: like the cheaper version. She told me like, well, Clear 371 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: Blue aren't paying me and they're playing other influences, so 372 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be putting them in the front 373 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: of this video. I was shocked at how many times 374 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: this pregnancy test did appear in the shot. It was like, 375 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: she's so clever though, because she knows that she's going 376 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: to capture people in the second they see the pregnancy test, 377 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: even if the sounds down, it's like, okay, well someone's 378 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: taking a pregnancy test. I need to know what's happening. Yeah. Well, 379 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: it wasn't until around the one minute mark of the 380 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: video that she revealed that quote. Thankfully, the test was 381 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: negative and she got her first period back since having Harlow, 382 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: so all of these symptoms were leading into the fact 383 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: that her period was returning for the first time postpartum. God, 384 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for my first period postpartum. Hopefully it 385 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: doesn't come for a while. It did not sound pleasant. No, 386 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: they are not fun. Sarah said though, that she was 387 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: so adamant that she was pregnant that she kept the 388 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: pregnancy test for four days. She then said, this didn't 389 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: like it wasn't. I wasn't like, oh my gosh, I 390 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: could be pregnant. I was like, oh my gosh, like 391 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: purb will drop dead before. 392 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: Now. 393 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Kurt is clearly not keen to have baby number four. 394 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I think he was really pushed across the line to 395 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: have baby number three. He looks absolutely chaotic in their 396 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: household having one. I actually don't understand how people can 397 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: go to three. No, it's quite a luxury these days. 398 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Have three kids, though, you're to have a lot of 399 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: finances behind you. I had to laugh at one of 400 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: the comments under the video, someone wrote, Okay, the Tills 401 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: fam hiring a sleep consultant was obviously good for mum 402 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: and dad lo. The comments section was really interesting because 403 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: I think from Sarah using the word hopefully it's our 404 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: last pregnancy scare, it caused a lot of people again 405 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: to speculate about the contraception she was using and how 406 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: she tracks her cycle. There were a lot of calls 407 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: for Kurt to get a vaseectomy. In terms of people 408 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: asking why she doesn't track her cycle, I saw that 409 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: she responded and said, well, to be fair, I didn't 410 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: have anything to track. Yeah, And she spoke about how 411 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: with her second son, Malachi, it took like twenty two 412 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: months or something like that for a period to return, 413 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: so this is fairly early for her in her postpartum journey. 414 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: There were a lot of people labeling the pregnancy baiting 415 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: as tone deaf. What did you think? So? Look, I 416 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: was pretty surprised to see the video pop up because 417 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: people nowadays are being so careful with anything relating to pregnancy. 418 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: It can be very triggering for some people. That's why 419 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think that she would share something like that. Yeah, 420 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: and I think it was the way the pregnancy test 421 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: was used as a prop, like it was so overtly done. 422 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: It was clear she was trying to build engagement. That 423 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: video attracted one point four million views on Instagram, so 424 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: it clearly worked. And on the other side of things, 425 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm sort of all for videos where influencers really do 426 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: give you an insight into what's going on, because the 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: influencer space is becoming boring when people don't share about 428 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: what's really going on in their lives. Yeah, but the 429 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: news was that her period had returned. It wasn't about 430 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: being pregnant. She knew before she filmed that video that 431 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: she wasn't pregnant, but the news also was that she 432 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: thought she was. And she's a content creator. She creates 433 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: engaging videos that people want to click on, and that's 434 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: her job. Look, I think I found it quite jarring 435 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: because pregnancy and fertility is such a sensitive topic. So 436 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: I think I was sort of like, Oh, this just 437 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: seems so overt to the pregnancy baiting. When you look 438 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: at the fact that she's also just about to launch 439 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: a new fitness challenge, it's clear that she is wanting 440 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: as many eyeballs to her page as possible. So she 441 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: has been accused in the past of trying to generate 442 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: controversy when she's about to drop something new. Yeah, that's 443 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: a really good point. So we have spoken on the 444 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: podcast about her fitness challenge. It's called five sixty. Sarah 445 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: has announced its launching on the ninth of October, which 446 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: I found a pretty bold move because she's spoken openly 447 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: about the fact that she still needs to shoot the 448 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: workout content for the challenge. She tried to film it 449 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: the other day and her son Harlowe was awake, so 450 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: she's like, should I just film it with him? I 451 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: haven't been game enough to try and do a workout 452 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: with my son Lucra. I feel like he is too 453 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: small at the moment. But I feel like that'd be 454 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: very challenging, particularly filming it. Oh, it would be so 455 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: for could it would be an absolute nightmare. Have you 456 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: seen the photo Sarah used to announce a launch date. 457 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: I have, and I don't mean to sound like a weirdo, 458 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: but I think what was in focus the most was 459 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: her crutch. Oh. I was like, why is this just 460 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: a shot of her crutch? So, for those who haven't 461 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: seen the photo, she is standing in this pose with 462 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: her arms outstretched above her head and is kind of 463 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: from her thighs upwards and her hips are pushed forward 464 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: to make her abs pop, and the photo's taken from 465 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: like blow so it really focuses on her crutch. And 466 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: it turns out her husband, Kurt Tills, took the photo 467 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: and it was pretty funny because someone wrote in the comments, 468 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: I saw this pic and immediately knew it was Kurt. 469 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: He has a distinctive style that I like, and I 470 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: was just loving it's of her crutch. It's clear she's 471 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to get her community involved in this project and 472 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's something they're working on together, because she 473 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: asked her followers to help select the logo for the 474 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: challenges Instagram account, and off the back of that, I 475 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: went to see just how many followers the five sixty 476 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: Challenge now has, and I was really shocked because it 477 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: had one hundred and twenty seven thousand followers. Yeah, I 478 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: saw it and was like, God, Jezus must be bigger 479 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: than I thought. Yeah, But then when I actually did 480 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: some digging, if you look at the tag photos, it 481 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: turns out that she's just converted her defunct health Code 482 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: podcast page into the new five sixty Challenge account. I 483 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: mean no shade, because if you're a business owner and 484 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: you have access to one hundred and twenty seven thousand 485 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: people on an account that you no longer use, of 486 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: course you're going to utilize it. But it does tell 487 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: me that the podcast is not coming back. And I 488 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: really enjoyed the health Code podcast in the early days. Yeah, 489 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: she's really put a line through that podcast. It's interesting though, 490 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: because she's used this method before. So she also had 491 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: an Instagram account for her defunct cooking app called Sonny, 492 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: and that account has now been turned into something called 493 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: the Sarah's Day Wellness Hub. So I reckon on the 494 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: five sixty challenge account that is purely going to be 495 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: focused on her sharing her journey of doing the challenge 496 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: and then maybe highlighting some community members who have had 497 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: success stories and these really good results. Yeah, I feel 498 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: like the more of the marketing I see, it's validating 499 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: my original fears that this is just going to be 500 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: an old school, toxic fitness challenge. I've seen the term 501 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: rules and no quitting used quite a lot, which is 502 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern. Do we think now 503 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: that she's definitely not going to have a fourth child, 504 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: she is re entering her fitness era. I mean, she 505 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: keeps saying she's definitely not going to have a fourth child, 506 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised in a couple of 507 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: years time if they have an accident child. I think 508 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: they're setting it up saying, oh, you know, with' having 509 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: all these pregnancy scares, like we're not really clear on 510 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: what contraception we're using. I don't think so the way 511 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: that Kurt reacted, I don't think if you're reacting like that, 512 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: if you're gunning for baby numberfore. Oh, Kurt doesn't want 513 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: baby number four, but I think Sarah potentially could after 514 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: she's recovered from having a baby with reflux. I think 515 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: she really wants a girl. Hi. Everyone, that's Tyson Fury 516 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: and she's Paris Fury, and today we're going to play 517 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: a little game of mister and missus. Over the weekend, 518 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury's daughter Venezuela generated headlines after she got engaged 519 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: at her sixteenth birthday party. So if the announcement sent 520 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: shockquaves across social media, yeah, I mean engagement announcements always 521 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: do well on Instagram, but this one did particularly well. 522 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: It generated over one point eight million views. Now in 523 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: the video, Venezuela, who has one hundred and ninety eight 524 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: thousand followers, shared a close up of her new engagement 525 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: ring and wrote We're getting married. So happy and tagged 526 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: her new fiance Noah Price. Now. Venezuela's mum, Paris Fury, 527 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: who is married to the famous boxer, also broke the 528 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: news to her one point nine million followers, sharing the 529 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: moment that Noah popped the question, and I have to 530 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: say that this is probably one of the most awkward 531 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: proposal videos I have ever seen. It is very evident 532 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: that the two are very young, so in the video, 533 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Noah got down on one knee on this empty dance floor. 534 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: There were a handful of family members who were looking on, 535 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: and at one point a random jo I'll just walk 536 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: past the proposal. It was also quite a lackluster reaction 537 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: from party goers. It's interesting to have the insight from 538 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: the Furies doco because I remember seeing them getting ready 539 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: for these big parties, and even though they spent so 540 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: much money on them, they just looked like your typical 541 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: chavvy English event that was boring with lots of kids there. Yeah. Well, 542 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: what was also very uncomfortable about this proposal video was 543 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: that they looked uncomfortable showing affection in front of their 544 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: family and friends. Sixteen. Yeah, they gave this uncomfortable hug 545 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: and then Noah sort of gave her a kiss on 546 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: the cheek. It seemed like she knew it was coming, though, 547 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: because she was wearing this sparkly white two piece outfit. 548 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: It looked like a very engagement outfit. Well, I was thinking, well, 549 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: surely Noah has asked Tyson and Paris for their daughter's 550 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: hand in marriage, considering she's only sixteen, But Paris admitted 551 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: to her followers that she was shocked but happy for 552 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: the young couple. She wrote, congratulations Venezuela and Noah and 553 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: getting engaged. Both only young, but when you know you know, 554 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: still in shock, but very happy for you. Both Me 555 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: and your dad couldn't be prouder. When I first saw 556 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: this video popping up on TikTok, there were a lot 557 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: of questions about how old her new fiance, say Noah, 558 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: actually was, because the consensus was that he looked a 559 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: lot older than Venezuela. But he is in fact seventeen 560 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: years old, and funnily enough, he is actually an up 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: and coming boxer like her dad and also her famous 562 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: uncle Tommy Fury, so he is pretty built for a teenager, 563 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: which I think made him look a lot older as 564 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: you can expect. Paris Fury's comment section blew up, with 565 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Venezuela's auntie Molly May, writing congratulations, special girl. Not everyone 566 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: was as happy, though, One follower wrote, this child is sixteen, 567 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Paris and Tyson, you have worked so hard to give 568 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: your children a better life. Let your daughter see the world, 569 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: not tie herself down to a boy madness. Now. That 570 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: comment received over four hundred likes. Another follower wrote, this 571 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: just looks so awkward and like they're both embarrassed, which 572 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: just proves they're far too young to be making such 573 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: a huge commitment to each other. Another said, regardless of age, 574 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: this is the most awkward like we've ever seen. There 575 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: was a follower who told people not to be haters 576 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: and pointed out that Paris got with Tyson at her 577 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: sixteenth birthday and that they're still together, so it would 578 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: be a fun fact. Paris is only thirty five and 579 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: Tyson is thirty seven, which blows my mind. I can't 580 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: imagine being the mother of a bride at this age. 581 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: I mean, even if the bride is sixteen. We have 582 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: to remember that the Tyson family are travelers, so it 583 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: is tradition for travelers to marry young. There is generally 584 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: not a large time span between puberty and marriage, so 585 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: the typical age for a female traveler is sixteen to 586 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: seventeen and for male travelers eighteen to nineteen. So when 587 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: you look at it with that perspective, it does make 588 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot more sense. Well, I remember in The Furies 589 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: docco that Venezuela was pulled out of school at thirteen 590 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: so she could follow her mum around and learn how 591 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: to be a housewife basically. Well, a lot of female 592 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: travelers don't go to school at all. Yeah, that was 593 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: something that Tommy and Molly had to talk about because 594 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: it seemed like Tommy wanted and be to have quite 595 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: a traditional lifestyle. But Molly's like, no, she's definitely going 596 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: to school. Well, it seems like it's going to be 597 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: a long engagement for Venezuela and Noah because in February 598 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the legal age changed for marriage in England, 599 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: so previously, if you were sixteen you could get married 600 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: if you had parental permission. However, that is no longer 601 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: the case. I think it's probably good it's going to 602 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: be a bit of a long engagement. The two might 603 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: get to know each other a bit more before. I mean, 604 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: they might actually work up to not being embarrassed to 605 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: kiss at the altar by eighteen. Well, I think that 606 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so 607 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: much for joining us for this episode, and for those 608 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: of you playing at home, who are wondering why I'm 609 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday. You're not meant to be human 610 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: to be a maternity leader. Yeah, we are having a 611 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: bit of a rejig, so I will be on every 612 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday episode and am we will be back for Friday's episodes. 613 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: So we thought it was a bit more consistency for everyone, 614 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: a bit easier to plan our days. Yeah, and depending 615 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: on how organized we are, you will most likely be 616 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: on Outspoken Plus, which is our subscription channel, so we 617 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: drop new episodes for scribers every Thursday, which is basically 618 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: an extension of this show. So on Thursday, we are 619 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be talking about Maddie Jay and Laura Burns's 620 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: new baby, Poppy. There's been a bit of a controversy 621 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: around her name because Mattie Jay did actually drop the 622 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: name ahead of the birth. We'll also be discussing how 623 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton's spark debate about how much money kids should 624 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: receive from the Tooth Fairy. We're also going to be 625 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: talking about the AI photos that Kate Cassidy shared of 626 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: her and her boyfriend Liam Payne. This comes almost a 627 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: year after his death. Oh my god, how is that 628 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: a year ago? Time? Is absolutely flying. It's still so 629 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: heartbroken about it. It's just devastating. Well, I don't really 630 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: like wrapping things up on a low point, but that 631 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: is where we're going to leave things today. If you 632 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: do enjoy the show, we would really appreciate it if 633 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: you could leave us a review. This podcast was recorded 634 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the 635 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past and present