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Speaker 1: Power Bobby my radio app from ninety six air VM

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Speaker 1: to where abb You're listening today?

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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the podcast the incomparable Stephen Frye, who's

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Speaker 3: in town for a couple of shows this weekend.

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Speaker 4: And fittingly we asked in the lead up to that interview,

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Speaker 4: who was your favorite comedy duo?

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Speaker 3: Beno'chet reviews Venom The Last Dance I Wish.

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Speaker 4: In the show report, could Chris Hemsworth play the next

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Speaker 4: Disney Prince Charming?

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Speaker 2: I don't see why not?

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Speaker 3: And in the story behind the album Billy Joels the Stranger,

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Speaker 3: he Don't be one. Stephen Frye is an English actor, screenwriter, author, playwright, journalist, poet, comedian,

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Speaker 3: television presenter, film director and all round international treasure.

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Speaker 2: That's all this morning, Thank you, good.

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Speaker 3: Much, and an Evening with Stephen fry is on at

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Speaker 3: the First Concert Hall this Sunday and Monday. Sunday is

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Speaker 3: sold out, but there are a handful of tickets to

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Speaker 3: spend the evening with Stephen fry on Monday. I would

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Speaker 3: be getting into Ticketmaster to sweet Stephen Frye, good morning.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, well, thank you for that glorious, glorious introduction. I

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Speaker 5: feel like basking in it like an iguana. It's just one.

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Speaker 4: It was magnificent but well justified.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Perth.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, delight always to be in Western Australia. Remote possibly, Yes, definitely,

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Speaker 5: isn't that a good thing? I think it probably is.

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Speaker 5: It was through COVID, we think, gosh, yes, absolutely you

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Speaker 5: were the winners there, weren't you. Melbourne, Poor Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who are still affected by

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Speaker 4: that lockdown, I think from Melville.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so anyway, good so and I gathered

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Speaker 5: you know that indeed that people have been very kind

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Speaker 5: and have sold out the first the first performance on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: so yeah, a lot a new one on Monday, which

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Speaker 5: is really nice. But do you know it's the first

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Speaker 5: place I ever came to in Australia was Perth back

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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When you were it was like entering a sort of

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Speaker 5: double a double identity city because half of it was

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Speaker 5: basically nineteen fifty two. Yes, the other half was being

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Speaker 5: I think the phrase is probably what would you say, bondified?

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Speaker 5: That's right. The America's Cup was about to be one,

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Speaker 5: now it's a totally modern, amazing place. So it was

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Speaker 5: last a few years ago and it was done there.

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Speaker 5: There are always new buildings. You arrive and you think, my goodness,

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Speaker 5: but obviously we know where you get all the building

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Speaker 5: aggregates from, because it's a it's a state that tears

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Speaker 3: Sure it was bondified the eighties. Perth loved along launchingly

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Speaker 3: the eighties were good to put well and often.

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Speaker 4: Used other people's money. But he did have business.

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Speaker 2: Steven.

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Speaker 3: It's an evening with and people can ask you questions.

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Speaker 3: Can you think what an example of one of the

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Speaker 3: more surprising questions that you've been asked?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean they are interested. The cliche ones are

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Speaker 5: always to any British person, who are always about, you know,

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Speaker 5: I suppose did you meet the queen? Then there are

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Speaker 5: strange ones about what's the weirdest thing a fan has

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Speaker 5: And you know the answers to that are pretty strange,

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Speaker 5: of course, because you know, sometimes I'm not suggesting that

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Speaker 2: Of underwear are you wearing?

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Speaker 5: And you go, what, No, I just meant because I

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Speaker 5: don't think if you as someone who wears underwear or something, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, they just their mouth runs away with probably get

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Speaker 4: very nervous around you.

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Speaker 5: And of course the mistake you make, which I discovered

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Speaker 5: But it's very understandable, and I remember once it is

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Speaker 5: So that was a kind of lesson in that you

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Speaker 5: have to understand that people are sometimes a bit they've

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Speaker 5: built up their courage to say hello and yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: And also you mustn't say no, I'm not This was

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Speaker 5: again to name drop this time even bigger. I was

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Speaker 5: with John Clee and we've been doing.

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Speaker 5: And someone came up and to us both and John

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Speaker 5: Lee said all these amazing things, and he signed a

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Speaker 5: piece of paper. This was in the days before selfies.

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Speaker 5: And they said, oh, I really like you, Stephen. And

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Speaker 5: I said, oh, nonsense, I said, you know, there's John

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Speaker 5: He said, don't disagree with people if they say that

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Speaker 5: It's so obvious. You know, you one kind of works

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's it exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's the great This is a little related to a

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Speaker 3: couple of the names that you just ran down earlier

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Speaker 3: this morning, Stephen. We were talking with our listeners about

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Speaker 3: great comedy duos and a bit of Frian Laurie came

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Speaker 3: as though you've made it a thing over the years

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Speaker 3: to work with great friends. What a wonderful caper that.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I've been so lucky. It's absolutely right. And Hugh

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Speaker 5: premus into paras as the women said first amongst equells.

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Speaker 2: What that means? It sounds be lovers.

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Speaker 5: He you know, Hugh Hugh. I mean when I first

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Speaker 5: the university and the name dropping. I didn't imagine when I.

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Speaker 2: Was called Steven's friends, you know.

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Speaker 5: I just remember Hugh was sitting on a on a bed.

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Speaker 5: She took me around to his rooms at his college

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Speaker 5: he said, I've just been writing this song and he

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Speaker 5: We started adding lyrics to it, and then we finished

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Speaker 5: with comedy, I suppose, But it was like an instant romance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Stavid, more syllable, think about John and stop putting

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Speaker 4: So retired Australian opening batsman David Waterer said this week

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Speaker 5: You know, I can just imagine it. It's very hard

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Speaker 2: Where were you living?

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Speaker 2: They're fantastic.

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Speaker 7: The sequel in twenty twenty one, Venom Let there Be Carnage,

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Speaker 7: was a little bit better. It was directed by Andy Serkis,

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Speaker 7: who of course played Golum, and it had Weuy Halson

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Speaker 7: as another sort of a person who had been possessed

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Speaker 7: by a different alien symbiote, and you know, like it

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Speaker 7: was still a lot of the same problems. Tom Hardy

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Speaker 7: performance was a bit weird. The CG was a bit

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Speaker 7: hard to watch, but you go, okay, so that's like

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Speaker 7: marginally better. And now along comes Venom the Last Dance,

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Speaker 7: which purports to be the final film in this trilogy.

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Speaker 7: We get a sort of a conclusion. That's the point,

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Speaker 7: because Eddie and Venom realize there is this big bad

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Speaker 7: guy somewhere else in the universe who's discovered their existence

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Speaker 7: on Earth and wants to kill them to gain possession of,

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Speaker 7: you know, something called a codex. It's just a classic

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Speaker 7: MacGuffin situation, and so they go on the run while

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Speaker 7: this alien creature is hunting them all pretty standard stuff,

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Speaker 7: but they get some of the most poignant, funny moments

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Speaker 7: of the franchise in this film. But that is an

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Speaker 7: extremely low bar to clear. And then right at the

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Speaker 7: very and then right at the very end, when you go, okay, well,

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Speaker 7: the stakes are kind of a bit real. There's something

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Speaker 7: about to happen. Maybe not every body is going to

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Speaker 7: walk away from this film, and so there's a chance

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Speaker 7: to give it like a little bit more meaning than

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Speaker 7: perhaps you sometimes get in these comic book movies. But

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Speaker 7: they absolutely stuffed up by trying to set up for

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Speaker 7: future sequels that are apparently going to start Juno Temple

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Speaker 7: from Ted Lasso as you know, as someone else is

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Speaker 7: possessed by an alien symbiot and just whatever, these future

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Speaker 7: movies look like. They look like the worst thing that

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Speaker 7: I've ever seen, and so you basically go, you just

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Speaker 7: wasted all of my time watching the previous two movies,

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Speaker 7: and this one as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's one of.

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Speaker 7: The most egregiously shameless setups for future films that has

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Speaker 7: just completely undercuts this current film. Then in the last

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Speaker 7: Dance doesn't do Tom Hardy any favors, And as to

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Speaker 7: the character of Venom, which a lot of nerd love,

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Speaker 7: you know, is a really, really shameful way to treat

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Speaker 7: this character, even though the previous couple of movies weren't

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Speaker 7: that amazing.

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Speaker 4: What this was meant to be the last supper for

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Speaker 4: the alien parasite? How disappointing symbia sound.

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Speaker 7: Let's get a couple of other gags?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well how many?

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Speaker 3: It's such a shame because I really like Stephen Graham's

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Speaker 3: Are You Giving You do?

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Speaker 2: I love Stephen's great.

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Speaker 7: It would actually be more enjoyable, I think, to take

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Speaker 7: you to this movie and just watch your Oh yes,

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Speaker 7: let's do that if we could, if I would give

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Speaker 7: that yeah, straight out of the game. But as the

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Speaker 7: Venom the last dand two.

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Speaker 4: And a half two and a half alrighty yeah, Well

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Speaker 4: take Lisa a long and our later brains while we're watching.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks Ben, you next week.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Here It's more Clezy, more Lisa, More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 4: The Sure Report on ninety six.

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Speaker 3: Airm two part documentary series about the Jerry Springer Show,

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Speaker 3: coming to Netflix in early January. Jerry Springer fights camera action.

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Speaker 3: We'll explore how the long running tablaid talk show became

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Speaker 3: one of the most outrageous television hits of the nineteen

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Speaker 3: nineties have ever really It'll feature first hand testimony in

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Speaker 3: revelations from show insiders, as well as interviews with producers

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Speaker 3: and former guests. It promises to raise questions about who

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Speaker 3: was responsible and how far things should go in the

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Speaker 3: name of entertainment, because that show ran for twenty seven

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Speaker 3: seasons from nineteen ninety one to twenty eighteen. Lacey Shavert,

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Speaker 3: who used to be in Party of Five and nowadays

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Speaker 3: she's known as the Queen of Christmas Movies, brings a

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Speaker 3: hot snowman to life in Netflix's new holiday film Hot.

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Speaker 2: Frosty, Oh really Hot Frosty. See Severa's Kathy, a.

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Speaker 3: Down on her luck widow who meets, of course she is,

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Speaker 3: who meets a well chiseled fellow played by Dustin Milligan.

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Speaker 3: He was ted the vesh on Shit's Creek, claiming to

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Speaker 3: be a snowman who's come to life a snowman. There's

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Speaker 3: a funny bit in the trailer where Lacey's character is

521
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Speaker 3: watching a holiday movie on TV and it happens to

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Speaker 3: be last year's Falling for Christmas, starring her Mean Girls

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Speaker 3: co star Lindsay Loho.

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Speaker 7: I know that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: That looks just like a girl I went to high

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Speaker 2: school with. If you know, you know.

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Speaker 3: Chris Amsworth is in talks to star as Prince Charming

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Speaker 3: in Disney's upcoming Prince Charming film. Plot details are under wraps,

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Speaker 3: and it's not clear yet if the film will be

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Speaker 3: live action or animated. All we know is Paul King,

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Speaker 3: who made Wonka, is going to direct it. And it's

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Speaker 3: not specifically going to be linked to the story of Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: It's like Prince Charming gets his ken moment. All right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe middle twist.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The producers of Blade Runner are suing Elon Musk and

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Speaker 3: Tesla for copyright infringement, alleging Musk used ai imagery to

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Speaker 3: create scenes from the movie to promote his new self

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Speaker 3: driving Robotaxi. The producers had previously denied Musk's request to

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Speaker 3: use film put in due to his extreme political and

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Speaker 3: social views.

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Speaker 2: Don't you love the cheek of these people? Can I

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Speaker 2: use your movie?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: You can't. I'm going to use your movie.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a political natives, doesn't it. He doesn't ask

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Speaker 4: me talking we were just.

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Speaker 3: Talking about amazing comedy duo. Yeah, we were actually Trump

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Speaker 3: and Musk. Trump actually a little bit of Trump and Musk.

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Speaker 3: The show's down there. You're far from fired. That's a

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Speaker 3: your point.

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Speaker 2: Releases The story behind the album.

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Speaker 3: Well the Stranger is Billy Joel's fifth studio album. It

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Speaker 3: came out in September nineteen seventy seven. It was the

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Speaker 3: first of Joel's albums to be produced by Phil Ramone,

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Speaker 3: with whom he would work for five subsequent albums.

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Speaker 4: Incredible his peel.

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Speaker 2: I was so determined to capture everything about this guy.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't about anybody who read these through the simple ditties.

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Speaker 4: He wanted to be the rock and roll stone geesus

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Speaker 4: had a success together. Those two, were they?

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Speaker 3: They certainly were. He's not one of the Ramones, though

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Speaker 3: he's not as well, not that I know of a

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Speaker 3: different unrelated.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he went to rock and roll high school.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's just as well.

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Speaker 3: It did good because Joel's previous album, Turnstiles, had sold

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Speaker 3: very modestly and peked very low on the charts, and

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Speaker 3: it prompted Columbia, which was the label, to consider dropping

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Speaker 3: him if his next release had sold poorly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible, wasn't it, Because like that album, as

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, the first one, Cold Spring, Harbor and Street

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Speaker 4: Life Serenade. These previous albums, they had some great songs on,

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Speaker 4: but they just didn't sell. It's Billy talking about it.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know this at the time, but had it

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Speaker 8: not been a successful album, the label clubly would have

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Speaker 8: dropped me, because you have to remember, this was my

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Speaker 8: fifth album without having had a major hit. But now, Yeahlindside,

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Speaker 8: I could see it was a really quick album because

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Speaker 8: I might.

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Speaker 2: Sliding doors moments.

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Speaker 4: He didn't know at the time the pressure. If you've

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Speaker 4: known that, it probably wouldn't have been you would ad

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Speaker 4: writer's block it was.

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Speaker 3: It ended up being considered his critical and commercial breakthrough,

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Speaker 3: really and that was five in four singles were released

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Speaker 3: off this album, all of which became top forty hits

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Speaker 3: on the Billboard Hot one hundred chart. Moving Out Anthony

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Speaker 3: song that we just played, She's always a woman. Only

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Speaker 3: the good die young, and of course just the way

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Speaker 3: you are.

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Speaker 4: It's a funny way we see in hindsight and they say, oh,

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Speaker 4: this song nearly didn't get on. We did really sure

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Speaker 4: a lot and sometimes you need to get clarification from others.

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Speaker 4: He's billy talking about just where you are.

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Speaker 2: We were sitting around a bunch of guys here.

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Speaker 4: We're not girl in the band.

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Speaker 8: It was just the guys and we're listening back on

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Speaker 8: you like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a check song.

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Speaker 6: You know, none of us were all the hard to

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Speaker 6: put it on the albums.

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Speaker 2: Phoebe Now came by with Linda Ronstad and they said,

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Speaker 2: you're crazy, You've got to put that song on the A.

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Speaker 2: These girls liked the song. I guess we should put

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Speaker 2: it on the album. So we kept it on.

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Speaker 3: So thanks to them, chick salted Chicks so love song,

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Speaker 3: although a couple of chicks didn't tell her to make sure.

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Speaker 2: You did it.

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Speaker 4: E want to be great. The Phoebe Snow and Linda

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Speaker 4: Ronstadt just sort of woke well, yes, okay, well yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I love that caught a bit of cred, didn't I unreal?

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Speaker 4: And another song on the album list was a Beauty,

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Speaker 4: only the Legendary, only the good die young that's ever

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Speaker 4: listened to a little bit about that?

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Speaker 8: You know, when I was a kid, I mean I

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Speaker 8: wasn't Catholic, but all my friends were, and I used

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Speaker 8: to go to Mass with my friends, thinking that's what

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Speaker 8: you did on a Sunday, And I came up with

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Speaker 8: this song about a guy trying to seduce a Catholic girl.

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Speaker 2: They got the sand season the whole university radio.

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Speaker 8: Some arch diocese I think or Saint Louis said that

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Speaker 8: people shouldn't buy the record. And as soon as you

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Speaker 8: tell people they shouldn't hear something and they shouldn't have something,

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Speaker 8: people wanted.

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Speaker 2: And they went out and bought it and drove and

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Speaker 2: drove the record way up the tropes.

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Speaker 4: So I remember writing a.

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Speaker 8: Letter and saying, please band my next record, thank.

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Speaker 2: You very much.

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Speaker 3: By Joel, I think writing that in nineteen seventies New York.

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Speaker 3: He makes a very good point. It would have been

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Speaker 3: they would have been looking at banning it. Absolutely controversy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and diocese is right.

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Speaker 4: We've seen it over the years where the song becomes

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Speaker 4: a hit or an album because people say, well, you

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Speaker 4: can't go near that. You know, the themes or the

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Speaker 4: lyrics on it, But that one worked a treat.

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Speaker 3: The Stranger Billy, Joel, Clezie and Lisa ninety six