WEBVTT - I'M A CELEB: Britt chats with Stephen K Amos about surrogacy 🌿

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<v Speaker 1>You never wanted kids. I was to say, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>you saying you wanted kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You never really said what process you're going down?

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<v Speaker 1>Well you are now you're going down the process now.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked into it just before lockdown and that ruined. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't ruin it stoped divisions and we had had meetings,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>To America for adoptionalrog and it would have been guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 2>With disservice.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the American way of doing it very didn't to

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<v Speaker 3>the UK and Europe, where you're literally you are you've

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<v Speaker 3>got their antal rights straight away and not it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a business, but there are people it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sounds quite immersedly when you say like that.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people in America who are quite happy to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a surrogate. Yeah, and mainly mothers themselves. Some have

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<v Speaker 2>them it multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>And you get a choice of a grew age range

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<v Speaker 3>of the surrogate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're picking them around and you have meetings with

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<v Speaker 1>a database, and you obviously kind a chance to interview.

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<v Speaker 2>That person before we have a meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting, and right, do you use the ink or do

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<v Speaker 1>you choose an egg?

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<v Speaker 2>Two options you can either use their ink or do.

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<v Speaker 3>MH and depending on the on the kind of type

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<v Speaker 3>of surrogate is what is where that decision would come from.

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<v Speaker 3>And you also get to be involved in all their

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<v Speaker 3>medical checkups and even at the bird you can't be

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<v Speaker 3>there amazed.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you get to meet anyone or you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get that far?

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get that far. We would win this clo.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an agency we're going to use and the

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<v Speaker 3>thing X amount and guaranteed child sometimes even twins depending

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, and you get the screening thing you

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<v Speaker 3>were talking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahs, I think I have loved twins or triplets mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then you get the connection of.

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<v Speaker 3>Going out there meeting them and you pay all the

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<v Speaker 3>upfront and there's not there's nothing more to pay on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just the process. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I had a friend that did it in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Should. You think you'll look at it again.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I will look at it again that's excited

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<v Speaker 3>and has had a friend you know some I know

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Married a couple has lesbian throne.

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<v Speaker 4>A friend of you was married a couple and like

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<v Speaker 4>to like jay lesbians and they cope, which.

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<v Speaker 2>They have three kids. Between them and the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they all live together like weekends?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So one week parents all want you in love?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the main thing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So would you go with donor or would you go

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a friend or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I did speak to a friend a while ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I spoke.

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<v Speaker 3>To a couple of meat meetings, a couple of connections

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<v Speaker 3>with strangers, but they were both in the UK, and

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<v Speaker 3>because didn't know them that well, and one of them

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<v Speaker 3>was very interested in the co caring things.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wanted I wouldn't be adverse if it was the

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<v Speaker 2>right person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess you don't know them long enough to

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<v Speaker 1>know that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the life long.

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<v Speaker 4>It's effectively marrying that other couple forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what I was I going to say? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>use your sperm or hugh sperm or you don't know yet?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know yet. I mean I'm very clean to

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<v Speaker 2>use your whatever left and.

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<v Speaker 4>Big Dad you would still yeah, heaps, men's sperm doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really deteriorate when if they could do it in the

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<v Speaker 4>sense that you could both donate and.

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<v Speaker 1>Draw people.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a friendice of that too, he and is

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<v Speaker 4>they both They like, we don't want to choose so fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I do that, or you could have two kids

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<v Speaker 1>and use one of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do but I mean, we're this close. They had meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all over zoom at that point. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>know in America. And then the representative of the agency

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<v Speaker 3>came to London and I met up with them, had

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<v Speaker 3>a really good productive chat and what and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that Clink Ships knew was that it was

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<v Speaker 3>guaranteed multiple trials if it doesn't succeed. Okay, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so you felt like yeah, to avoid disappointment. And also

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the term, you go make the

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<v Speaker 3>arrangements and they also arrange the birth certificate and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you just fly over there for the birth and.

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<v Speaker 3>So there probably a few weeks before the birth and

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<v Speaker 3>then a few weeks afterwards you take your baby down

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<v Speaker 3>and the baby's got dual nationality straight away.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, UK and America.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Oh, I hope that works out for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I I think that's the tricky think about like IVA

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<v Speaker 4>is that it's not always guaranteed, so so much upfront

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<v Speaker 4>costs and you can end up process you can go

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<v Speaker 4>again and again and again and again, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>get to the engines. Well even that's just what I

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<v Speaker 4>did for mine, like fifteen grand weeks of injections, and

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<v Speaker 4>I walked over nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, it's really tough.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, yes, we just start again. Find someone

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<v Speaker 4>my me, she has been in here. Have you been

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about it in here listening to everyone talks about.

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<v Speaker 1>Their kids, because it's it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when everyone's talking about it, Oh my god, it

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<v Speaker 4>sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds amazing. I really missed that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, I think I said it before that

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<v Speaker 3>that when you talk about Felix.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if you're aware of this,

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<v Speaker 2>your your eyes just get a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that.

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<v Speaker 3>My friends said to me, you've probably heard it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That instant love you have for this human.

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<v Speaker 4>Being like that you never experienced, you never experienced, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want that. I want to feel that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to I said before, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>my life an complete.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have that, you know, not.

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<v Speaker 3>That religious, but the moss the meaning of life, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the purpose if we're not going to pass on what

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<v Speaker 3>we know and our knowledge to this person who hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To change the world be an amazing human being.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's also I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 4>but a big part of its two is because I've

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<v Speaker 4>always been on the fence, and then when I met

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<v Speaker 4>Ben's I look at him and I'd be like, you

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<v Speaker 4>would be wasted, not as like I want to see

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<v Speaker 4>him as a dad, whereas I haven't really felt that before,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I would hate for you to not

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<v Speaker 4>have that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not big decision.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big decision. My friends have all that adoption.

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<v Speaker 3>That all good and if you want to go down, great,

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, it's such an eternal drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you want one of your own, and I have

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<v Speaker 4>no doubt if you adopted, you would love it just

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<v Speaker 4>as much. But I understand why you would want one

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<v Speaker 4>of your bloods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that you can be at all of the

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<v Speaker 4>medical appointments.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so exciting, and then the birth is.

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<v Speaker 3>So can you imagine and you're there and the people

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to this, I look, we researched it,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got advice from friends, we spoke to three or

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<v Speaker 3>four agencies, varying in prized from one to nearly two.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one that really read, they're not they're based

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<v Speaker 3>playing in Pittsburgh. Just hands on and you could see no,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you could do it also in like Eastern Europe.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, a lot of the American ones aren't from Eastern

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<v Speaker 4>Europe as well.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the American ones, Well, the surrogates have

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<v Speaker 1>come from Europe to America and that's what they're that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing a lot of Ukrainians.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but yes, it's even I just had a friend,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>She just before the war Russia Ukraine had she had

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<v Speaker 1>bought tried four prints, easy easy, and she's in a forty.

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<v Speaker 1>So they went for Saragac. They flew their embryo over

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<v Speaker 1>to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>Then war broke out and she was already their sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>was pregnant in Ukraine and then for the birth they

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<v Speaker 4>flew there to get it and we're in a war zone.

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<v Speaker 4>They were in a bunker with their newborn baby. It

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<v Speaker 4>was this is only they only brought it home six

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<v Speaker 4>months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild were they stuck over there?

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<v Speaker 4>They were stuck there for a couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 4>then the embassies helped get them out that they had

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<v Speaker 4>to they you wouldn't just get out because they had

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<v Speaker 4>to try and organize these birth certificates and transports, like

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<v Speaker 4>they're not stealing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the worst time. I mean, there's no good

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<v Speaker 1>time in for war. But like she was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Like, that's my child now you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I have put in a war zone.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy, But they got everyone was safe, the mom where

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<v Speaker 4>they looked after them a lot, like yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 4>the family, the surrogates family. But what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't not Everyone's like you're crazy, you can't go

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<v Speaker 1>into a war zone.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's like, my child is now in there, Like

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<v Speaker 4>could you imagine that predicament?

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<v Speaker 1>I should speak to her on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I imagine the stress that she would have felt

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<v Speaker 4>stake if she couldn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Over there and then home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then the husband had to leave her in the bunker.

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<v Speaker 4>With a baby to try and go to the embassy

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<v Speaker 4>on his own to like imagine leaving your partner in

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<v Speaker 4>newborn and he's like just don't move and came back

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<v Speaker 4>like four days later or something because he had to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty crazy. I think it takes a really long

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<v Speaker 1>time passport.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the first sect?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I I might have talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio or something, because somebody got in touch

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<v Speaker 3>with me on social media and she was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>might think I look crazy if I'm in a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with my girlfriend go acting marriage?

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<v Speaker 2>Would we think you're funny? Would resinkly be the perfect

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<v Speaker 2>dad to do? And I feel like you yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know his mom's back. It's just so weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was back paranoid. Is it oppressed, sting?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it all of those kind of where she was

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<v Speaker 1>probably just being nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then about three years they turn, she got in

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<v Speaker 3>touch on me again and they found someone admitted to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm sure they send.

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<v Speaker 4>You the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, their two year old girl that you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>to know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you ask your friends, maybe go.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. She had.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly beout not that lucky at the start. A few goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there was a miss pay and then.

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<v Speaker 4>When they were just about getting ready to go again,

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<v Speaker 4>she had to have an operation, an abdominant operation.

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<v Speaker 1>Something went wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>So after like a year to eighteen months of trying

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<v Speaker 4>with one.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to find a new. Sorry yet so she's

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<v Speaker 1>spent a long time trying to get her trial. But

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<v Speaker 1>I got there in the end.