1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey and Amanda jam. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Nation watchdog versus Coals and wool Waves. You've been following 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: this story. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, or the 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: A Triple C has launched legal action against Woolies and cold. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: With legal action. Who does so? If Woolies and coals 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: are fined, who does that money. 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Go to the A Triple set of the government. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: I would say it's not going to go back to us. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: Well, it should somehow go back to us because what 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: they've been doing is disgraceful. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to go out a limb here and sort 12 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: of support Coals and Woolies. 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Why want to tell about what they've done before? 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what they've done is that they've they've put out 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: so called illusionary discounts. So for a pack of strep Sels, 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: which is a retail price of say five dollars fifty, 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: they jack that price up to. 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Seven dollars two weeks before you got a threat. 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: You go into woolies or coals, you buy your strep 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Sels for seven dollars. Then a couple of weeks later 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: they down down six dollars fifty. 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: And there's a big tag on it saying sale price. 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: And this is where I come in to to support 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Coals and Willies. That's their business, that's what they do. 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: They sell stuff. It's like when you go to your 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: corner shop. If I go to my local corner shop 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: and buy a tin of Serena tuna, I know that. 28 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: He's robbing me. 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: Blyth. It's like four dollars fifty. Have you ever gone 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: to Audi and you just go in there And I'm 31 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: not doing an ad for Audi, but you go in 32 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: there and you buy a bunch of stuff and you go, geez, 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: how cheap is all of this? 34 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: But there is a big difference here. 35 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Both of these companies, will Worst and Coals have traded 36 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: very heavily on trying to do the right thing for 37 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: everyone's cozy lives. They're doing big advertising about that, and 38 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: they know very well the psychology of what you're doing. 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: It's one thing to say where fools for falling for it, 40 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: But they are putting a sales sticker on we should 41 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: be able to believe that that price has been overall reduced. 42 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: They're saying here that. 43 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: The AC Triple C estimates that both companies are sold 44 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: tens of millions of products using this fake method. And 45 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: have derived significant revenue from it. Following many years of 46 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: marketing campaigns by Wilworst and Coals, Australian consumers have to 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: understand that prices dropped and down down promotions relate to 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: a sustained reduction in regular prices as supermarket products. That's 49 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: what the age will see is saying. However, in the 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: cases that these products we allege have a new price 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: is dropped and down down, the promotional prices were higher 52 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: than they normally are so that they can bring them 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: down and say that they're reduced when they're not. 54 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: In the psychology evaflation of the price is not a good. 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: Thing, I will, but also the psychology the trickery this 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: consumer psychologist has said. Brain studies have shown that when 57 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: we're excited by a bargain, it interferes with our ability 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: to clearly judge whether it's good or not. And they 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: know this. Finding a bargain activates the reward center in 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: our brain, the release of dopamine, the associated with pleasure 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: and reward. We get a sense of satisfaction. So they 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: are very deliberately tricking us. 63 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: There's an old Latin saying caveat m tool, I bought 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: that last week on Speci, let the buyer beware. 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: So you think it's okay, we see a sale price, 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: but it's not real and that's okay. 67 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: I worksiness, Okay. 68 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: The shoppers business, the radio. 69 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Business, and it's all about sell the is or not 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: the steak. Get people to listen for five minutes more. 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: You get people to listen for five minutes more, you 72 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: get more ticks in the books, you can sell more advertising. 73 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: And then we give away a thousand bucks. We give 74 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: away a thousand bucks. 75 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: Where when we say we're like on Friday, we're giving 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: away free fuel, there's no trickery. We are not tricking people. 77 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking across purposes here. It's like what a 78 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: radio station says, we play more variety than anyone else. 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: What the hell is a variety? Variety is something that 80 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: radio stations came up with a thousand years ago to 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: mean you're going to get more billy Joel. 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 83 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: But if you say that, if you say we play 84 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: more variety, you don't really the listener doesn't even care 85 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: about variety. All they care about is what they know. 86 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: But if we well, I guess you're I guess that's 87 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: that's fair enough. But in the days of Cozi lives, 88 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: when both these companies are trading very heavily on their 89 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: prices being down and they are tricking us, that's not 90 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: a good thing. 91 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: Let me go back to my Latin cavy at door. 92 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: What about status quo that's also Latin. 93 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: What are the chances downtown standards are down? 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Prices certainly are