1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Edge of Change, presented by Nike, a 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: series of conversations with athletes, innovators, and designers who are 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: pushing boundaries, creating ideas, and advancing change for women in sport. 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: For nearly twenty years, Jordi Patcher has been helping to 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: drive Nike's mission to bring inspiration and innovation to every 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: athlete in the world. Her tenure at Nike has spanned 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: multiple functions, including roles across retail, digital, running, and women's 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: fitness product Jordi currently leads the company's women's sport apparel business, 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: bringing meaningful innovation and design to Nike's elite athletes and 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: partners around the world. Jordie is originally from the Bay 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Area and now resides in Portland, Oregon. She names the 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Aces, the Portland Thorns, and Chelsea Women's among 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: her favorite teams, and is also a passionate Warriors fan. Jeordie, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: Hi, Chloe, thank you so much for having me. 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: And you're sporting a jersey that's looking very exciting. We're 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: going to be chatting about that a little bit later 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: on in the episode, but I'm loving what you're doing 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: there so far. 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: To kick us off, can you tell us a little 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: bit about your career progression today and how you've ended 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: up with the exciting role that you're now working with Nike. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Chloe. 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: So I've been at Nike just a couple of months, 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: shy of twenty years. So I've had an incredible journey 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: and career with this brand and at this company, and 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: I just pinched myself that this is a job that 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: I get to do every day. So my team is 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: responsible for the creation of all of the kids and 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: uniforms across all women's sports, serving not only the elite 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: athletes like the Mattel does, but all the way through 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: everyday athletes, even at the high school and youth level. 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: And so I've had a number of roles at Nike 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: over my twenty years, but there's one thing that is 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: sort of been a constant, and that is really that 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: almost all of my roles have been in the space 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: of serving women. And over the course of these years 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: and my time here, I've become more and more passionate 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: about serving women and inviting young women and girls into 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: sport and making sure that we give them opportunities to 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: stay in sport, and so to be able to have 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: this role where we're creating product and listening to the 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: voice of the athlete and solving their real problems is 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: just an extreme joy and pleasure. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. Is it something that you drived 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: off as a little kid that you would have a 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: job one day like this. 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: It's such an interesting question because I have this really 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: funny thing where as a child, probably even before I 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: was a teenager, the job I said I wanted to 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: do was to be a retail merchandiser, and I pretty 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: much made a career out of merchandising, even though I 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: wasn't entirely sure of what it was for many of 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: those years that I was saying that was what I 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: wanted to do, so I found my way into the 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: industry where I felt passion as a young child. But 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: you know, to be honest with you, kel Chloe, when 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: I was a young girl, I played soccer football growing 60 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: up up until I was about thirteen years old, and 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: then I was a classic sport dropout like so many 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: of the other young girls that I speak to today, 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons, but most of which was 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I was good enough. I wasn't comfortable, 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: I didn't have great mentors or coaches in the spaces 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: that I was in, And so as I've been at 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: Nike over the years, I've just felt more and more 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: of a calling to help young girls and women find 69 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: their way to a better result. 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: Than I had. 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: And I'm just obsessed with fitness now, but really as 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: it relates to organized sport, just passionate about helping people 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: find their way and stay in this space. 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: We've started to say a lot more research, particularly some 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: research coming out of Australia about some of the concerning 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: dropout right four young girls out of sport, and there's 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion around body image and uniforms that 78 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: might not feit or feel appropriate. Is it quite an 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: empowering thing that you can now be involved in trying 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: to make a difference with young girls staying involved in sport. 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 82 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: So It's funny when I first started in this role 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: and was explaining to people what I did, I always 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: a met with a lot of excitement and energy at 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: about the role that I have and what my team does. 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: But I also as I talked about why I was 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: so inspired about the role. 88 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: I would encounter some people who would say things like that, 89 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: you just make boks. 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: You know, why are you so inspired by thinking you 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: can help young women and girls enter into and stay 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: in sport? And I mean, it's just such an easy answer, right, Like, 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: when we listen to the voice of the athlete and 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: truly ask them about things that are problems for them, 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: or even just ask more open ended questions, we get 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: so much rich insight and deep answers that help us 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: understand problems that these athletes are facing and ways that 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: we can truly solve them through our creation in apparel. 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: So I know we'll get to this a little bit later, 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: but even the Elite Protect innovation that we've been able 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: to offer to the athletes for the Summer's tournament, it's 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: just something that our entire team is so inspired by 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: have has had such good response from the athletes. 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: And we chatted to your incredible colleague Caitlin, who talked 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: all about some amazing research that's been done at Nike, 106 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: particularly around the sports bra space, and similar to that 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: League Protection that you've touched on there, what do you 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: think is some of the key considerations when making creating 109 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: uniforms and apparel. Not necessarily the elite level, because as 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: you said, we'll get onto that a little bit around 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: those uniforms, but for that community sport level that are 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: really important for young girls and young women. 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a few things, but the first 114 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: thing I would say in creating these kids in the 115 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: uniforms is really around removing any distraction and making sure 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: that the athletes feel comfortable. So that's point number one, 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: and that is in every place on their body. So 118 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: whether it's at the neckline, or it is at the 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: sides of body, or it's the waistb under the short, 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: or the gusset which is the inside seams of the 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: shorts as your legs meet, all of those things really 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: matter in the way that we create these garments and 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: construct them so that athletes can be free of distraction. 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: But you know what's so interesting is that what I 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: would say. 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: Is equally important to that is that these athletes feel 127 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: and look amazing, and so they're just anymore today. There 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: is no innovation, there is no removing distraction without making 129 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: sure that the garment. 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Just essentially looks amazing. 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: And so we talk about this a lot like innovation 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: and style at no cost to one another, and that 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: the whole garment, and in this case, the entire uniform 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: really works in harmony to look and feel amazing. 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: And I imagine there's some similar themes to what you're 136 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: doing at that level if we now look at what 137 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: the matildas are going to wear in July. I'm counting 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: down the days. 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm so excited, so excited. 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: For this tournament. It's so exciting. So can you talk 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about what it's like. It must be 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: a huge honor to be a part of that process, 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: But what is it like to prepare a uniform like 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that for such a huge event. 145 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a multi year process. 146 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: So it starts with really, just like I said, just 147 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: just talking to the athletes and the federations, making sure 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: that we're hearing their thoughts on where they want to 149 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: take things, what inspires them, how they're feeling about the 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: current product that they're wearing. And then it's really iterative, 151 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: so we sort of go back and forth with one 152 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: another throughout various parts of the journey, one on the 153 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: innovation of the material itself, and then how the garments 154 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: are coming together and responding and getting feedback from that. 155 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: But then also, and I know we'll get into this, the. 156 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: Art on the kits and how we're really representing the 157 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: nation and the athletes who will be wearing them. That's 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: really a wonderful process that has a lot of back 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: and forth between us and the federations and the athletes 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: to make sure that the end result is something we're 161 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: all really proud of. But the base of what we 162 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: just talked about about making sure it's free of distraction 163 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: and making sure it looks and feels amazing, that is 164 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: what we use. 165 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: No matter the. 166 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Level and how much say do the athletes the players 167 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: have in this process, you said it kind of goes 168 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: back and forth. Are they trialing things along the way 169 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: getting a say in which design they like better? 170 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, generally speaking, we really work with our athletes 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: on making sure that it fits amazing and that we 172 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: hear their insights at the beginning about for example, this 173 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: jersey I'm wearing, which is the away kit for the 174 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: Matildas in this beautiful hyper turk color, was inspired by 175 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: quotes we received from those athletes at the very beginning 176 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: of the process about really wanting to be forward looking 177 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: and nod to the future generations, and so we felt 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: that this was a really great response to their feedback. 179 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: And then we as we go through the process, it's 180 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more back and forth with the Federation 181 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: until we get some sign off and agreement between our 182 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: two parties and then bring the athletes back in for 183 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: a final approval and feedback. 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about the Matilda's 185 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Home jersey and the process that went into the colors 186 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: and the artwork on that one. 187 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, so the Matilda's Home Jersey, first of all, all 188 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: of our kids for twenty twenty three have been really 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: inspired by art movements from around the world and stories 190 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: from the nations themselves and the people of those nations. 191 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 3: And so the Matilda's Home kit has this beautiful marblized 192 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: effect that's been hand done by one of our designers 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: and it's really intended to represent the beautiful fusion of 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: the culture and communities of Australia itself, and so you 195 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: can kind of see that come together in the art, 196 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: but also just really classic with the signature yellow of 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: Australia and your country and the Matilda's and then paired 198 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: back with that classic green shore and the white Sox. 199 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really exciting. What do you think a tournament 200 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: like this is What role do you think that can 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: play in a place like Australia and in New Zealand 202 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: as well. 203 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: First of all, we've already been selling the jerseys to 204 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: the fans in Australia and the response has been overwhelming, 205 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: and so everybody's so excited to get a piece of 206 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: this opportunity to be able to cheer for their team. 207 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: And I think then you get into the tournament and 208 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: you see the players score goals in these jerseys, and 209 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: you see the replay of the goal scoring and the 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: cheering and the winning, and then you just create something 211 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: that becomes an icon for the dawn of time, and 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: people will friends that jersey as they go through the 213 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: years and say, remember when Sam curR scored a goal 214 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: in that jersey. 215 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: It's such a great point and I probably hadn't thought 216 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: about it too much until we've kind of got into 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: this discussion, because it's a really key area that people 218 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: have talked about over such a long period of time. 219 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: With women's sport, there's obviously been limited access a lot 220 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: of the time to broadcast and viewership. Yeah, women's sports 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: fans often have to go online to different streaming platforms 222 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: to access it, but there's also been limited access to 223 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: merchandise for certain teams. So it's so cool that, as 224 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: you said, it's already available and if we think about 225 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: that next generation, the fact that they can get their 226 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: hands on the jersey wear it to these matches is 227 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: a really powerful thing. 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so thrilled about that. 229 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Actually, this offer that we have this year is our 230 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: biggest women's football offering in Nike's history, so we're really 231 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: proud of that. 232 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: And it's not just for women to be fans of women. 233 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: It is for women, men and kids to be invited 234 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: along the journey to. 235 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: Celebrate these incredible world class athletes. 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: And so we've done that through the jerseys of course, 237 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: and we're so excited about how they've come out and 238 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: the response from the people of Australia. But also we 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: have a variety of lifestyle pieces that are in our 240 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: line as well, so that everybody can express their own 241 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: individual style and still represent their federation. 242 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: It's been an incredible rise of athletes and I'll come 243 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: in with an Australian bias with athletes like Sam Kerr, 244 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Ellie Carpenter, who are going to be wearing this jersey. 245 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: What do you think that then does to help elevate 246 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: brands like Nike when you've got these huge global role 247 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: models wearing them, scoring goals, as you said, the replay 248 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: on the TV things like that. 249 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think first and foremost, I think what it 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: does for young girls is what is so inspiring? Right 251 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: that they see these women performing at that level and 252 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: getting this world attention is really remarkable, and so I 253 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: think that's important that young girls all around world world 254 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: are seeing athletes like Elly and Sam in this way. 255 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: I think what it does for Nike is it just 256 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: helps to continue our mission to get more people in 257 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: sport and specifically young girls and women. And so it's 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: just sort of a continued step on our journey of 259 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: belief in sport and the power of sport and what 260 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: sport can do to move the world forward. 261 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on that. It's quite a nice 262 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: segue just around it must be a really cool thing 263 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: to be a part of a brand that does these 264 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: marketing campaigns that are really powerful. They're not just hey, 265 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: by our apparel, by our clothing. They're all about inspiring 266 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: people about changing attitudes about particularly in what's coming to 267 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: mind is Serena's involvement in a lot of those ads 268 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: about changing people's attitudes about how women should behave on 269 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: the court or on the track. What is it like, 270 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I guess that process in using the apparel to change attitudes. 271 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's know the secret why I've stayed 272 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: at Nike this long. We walk the walk, we talk 273 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: the talk, and the mission is so clear, and so 274 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm so aligned to the mission, and I think as 275 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: it relates to our apparel and showing up and changing 276 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: experiences for our consumers and athletes around the world, it's 277 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: really all about making sure that our consumers can see 278 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: themselves in our marketing and that when we're talking about 279 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: our apparel and our innovation and the problems we're solving 280 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: for these athletes, that that's something that they can resonate 281 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: with themselves. And so that comes through in our messaging, 282 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: It comes through in our imaging, right. 283 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: They need to see people that look like them, and 284 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: we're really. 285 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: Focused on making sure that we have a diverse set 286 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: of not just images, but also just the way that 287 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: we compile our words to make sure that it's hitting 288 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: our audiences in a way that resonates with them. 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: And obviously there's a real shift that we've started to say, 290 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: as you touched on having diverse athletes, it's not just 291 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: white women who are able bodied, it's making sure that 292 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: we've got athletes of color, athletes with a disability who 293 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: are being represented in this marketing and advertisement as well. 294 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 295 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think you probably saw in our Naked 296 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: Team Kit launch in Sydney just at the beginning of April, 297 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: but that was something that we really focused on there too, 298 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: that it's about all all bodies, all abilities, all shapes, 299 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: all sizes, and that's been our mission the entire way 300 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: through when we're innovating for these athletes and working to 301 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: create this product, that it's not just one person or 302 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: one shape or one ability that we're covering, that we 303 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: really are servicing all of our athletes. 304 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. I'd love to take a step 305 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: and look a little bit more into your career and 306 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: just ask what do you think is the biggest lesson 307 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: that you have learned as a woman in business. 308 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: I guess one thing that I would say for sure, 309 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: even before I tell you about my my biggest lesson 310 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: is just that there's so much power and value in 311 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: women supporting other women, And over the course of my career, 312 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: I just have gained so much confidence and camaraderie by 313 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: surrounding myself with other incredible women both inside and outside Nike. 314 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: And there's just a lot of value that I feel 315 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: anybody could gain by finding that group for themselves. But 316 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: the other thing that I would say is just the 317 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: biggest thing I've probably learned over the course of my 318 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: career is just the power in trusting in myself. 319 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: There will be things that come. 320 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: On the journey and over the course of time that 321 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: are obstacles and that might allow some self doubt to 322 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: creep in. And this ability and notion of believing in 323 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: myself and what I can bring to the table and 324 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: the value that I can bring to the organization has 325 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: really enabled me to continue to progress and grow into 326 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: opportunities and an understanding of what a situation might call 327 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: for and where I have growth opportunities as well. 328 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: I imagine the level of confidence that you feel in yourself 329 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: after almost twenty years at Nike is probably quite different 330 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: to when you first started out. Has there been any 331 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: failures along the way where where you've learned something or 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: taken something away from it. 333 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, I'll say, while I think I've 334 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: learned a lot of lessons and honed my style, it's 335 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: a continual process, right, And so reminding myself of these 336 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: things just the same way I might remind a younger 337 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: woman who's coming into the organization is really important as well. 338 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely there are constant lessons that. 339 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: I've learned along the way, and you know, some of 340 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: them have been really hard. But I'd say the biggest 341 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: lesson I learned is probably a lesson in humilody. And 342 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: what I mean by that is, I'll just kind of 343 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: go back to a moment in my career. 344 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: About ten years ago. 345 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: I had the opportunity, which is just the biggest gift 346 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: I've ever had in my career, to go work and 347 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: live in Amsterdam in the Netherlands. And I got there 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: and I was so excited about the opportunity and about 349 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: what we could do as a team. 350 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: But what I didn't really. 351 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: Take into account was the notion that they didn't know me, 352 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: and they didn't know my leadership style, and they didn't 353 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: know that I kind of had What you see is 354 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: what you get approach to things. 355 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: But I took that all for granted, and so I 356 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: got into. 357 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: A little bit of a well, we're not trusting one another, 358 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: and the unlocked there was, Okay, wait a minute, if 359 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: I stop and get to know these people and bring 360 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 3: them into the conversation and leverage their expertise more and 361 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: have them be a bigger part of the strategy, we 362 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: can unlock a lot more. And so I started doing that, 363 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: and as I did, it just created such a sense 364 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: of camaraderie and trust amongst the team and with me 365 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: and my colleagues, and it was really a big lesson 366 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: and just pausing, being humble, inviting other people into the conversation, 367 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: providing more context to the dialogue and the reasons things 368 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: might be being described as part of strategy, and that 369 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: really helped me throughout the rest of my career. It's 370 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: a lesson that I needed to learn at some point, 371 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: but it was a little bit of a crash course 372 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: while I was over there, and I'm just so grateful 373 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: for the opportunity to have worked with them and have 374 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: them have all of those people and colleagues teach me 375 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: and trust in me to go on that journey with them, 376 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: and ultimately I still have the utmost respect for my 377 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 3: colleagues in Europe and keep in touch with them to 378 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: this day. 379 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: I love what you touched on there, just about inviting 380 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: other people into the conversation. It's such a powerful thing 381 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: to take a step back and listen to people and 382 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: learn from people around what their experience has been. But 383 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: also similar to what you touch on, their leadership style 384 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: might be different to yours and how you actually come 385 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: together to make a really high performing team in whatever 386 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: context that is. 387 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: Yes, it's so true, and I think every team and 388 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: every situation might call for a slightly different style and 389 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: that's something that I learned there as well. 390 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: There isn't a one size style approach. 391 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I know you're a big fan of a 392 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: few different women's sports teams, particularly over in the US. 393 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: I love watching from AFAR, particularly the NWSL, I love 394 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the WNBA. Like, there's so many different sports that are 395 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: just booming over there. What is that experience like being 396 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: in the US for this huge rise of women in sport? 397 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 398 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: The attendance records and the viewership records that we're seeing 399 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: broken around the world are so exciting. And then to 400 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: see them happening in America, which has so long been 401 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: a place of men's sports leagues, men's sports fans, and 402 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: the entire nation rallying around men's sports teams is really 403 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: inspiring that now we're seeing it for women. You mentioned 404 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: the NWSL, the National Women's Soccer League in America, and 405 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: then of course the WNDA, which is the Women's Basketball Association. 406 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 3: We are just so thrilled to be able to partner 407 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: with those leagues, but more importantly, as a fan, it's 408 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: a joy. So of course we live in Portland, Oregon, 409 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: so we have the Portland Thorns, which is an NWSL 410 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: team here. They happen to be pretty good and have 411 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: some pretty amazing stars, so it's always a very good 412 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: time to go out to those games. But I think 413 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: more than anything, it is just inspiring. 414 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool now here. Obviously a huge supporter 415 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: of women's football. What do you think the importance is 416 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: of brands investing in in women's football and in women's sport. 417 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I talked a little bit about how 418 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: we are just so in on the belief and power 419 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: that's for him the world forward, and so this investment 420 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: in sport For us, we're so excited to be able 421 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: to see the momentum that is happening in women's sport 422 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: and then just say like, well, our investments make absolute sense. 423 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: We're seeing these investments start to pay off, and we're 424 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: seeing other brands and other industries coming into this opportunity 425 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: and recognizing how important it is to elevate women in 426 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: sport and so to be able to do that through 427 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: the lens of research and innovation and solving problems for 428 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 3: her and delivering product that just looks amazing both on 429 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: and off the pitch is really exciting for us. 430 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: And I think what you touched on there is it's 431 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: been this real shift over the last few years in 432 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: changing people's attitudes about you're not just investing in women's 433 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: sport because it's the right thing to do. Brands are 434 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: investing in women's sport because they're receiving a great return 435 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: on their investment because it's such an incredible product with 436 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: incredible role models and athletes who have this really powerful 437 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: emotional connection to their fan base that actually has and 438 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: there's data now that shows it that you can get 439 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: great return on investment because the fans believe in these 440 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: teams and in these athletes. 441 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. 442 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean if you just look at the data of 443 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: the viewership and the attendance records, that alone tells us 444 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: there is something. 445 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: There absolutely to finish us off. Who do you think 446 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: we're going to see in the final August twentieth. You're 447 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: wearing a Matilda's jersey, so I hope you're going to 448 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: give us a little bit of love. 449 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: Yes, No, I have so much excitement to be able 450 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: to watch the Matilda's play. I'm sure we're going to 451 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: see them make it really far and for sure. I 452 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: mean how fun would that be to see them in 453 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: the final? 454 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely USA v Matilda's in the final Erica and would 455 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. 456 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: Yes, I wasn't going to mention USA. 457 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: We're all in on Australia here today, but USA versus Australia, 458 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm all in that. 459 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much Shorty for having 460 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: a chat today. It's been a really cool insight. I 461 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: think a lot of people wouldn't understand the really long 462 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: process that goes into into creating these jerseys at the 463 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: elite level but also at a community level. So I 464 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: think it's an incredible insight for our listeners, so thank 465 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: you so much for your time, Chloe. 466 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: Thank you for everything you're doing for women in sport. 467 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: You're an incredible athlete yourself, and I'm so inspired by you. 468 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Thanks so 469 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: much for listening. 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