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Speaker 1: There is so many messages coming through this morning, most

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Speaker 1: of Darwin convat Scalus. Good morning, Corn, Good.

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Speaker 2: Morning morning it is and yes, we had the bombing

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's so good.

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Speaker 2: And the first band, the band of the first Brigade,

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Speaker 2: I love so much, especially the new song bond Falling

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Speaker 3: That's brilliant. That was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That's really good to hear Corn, and eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: Because these kids are our future and they have to

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Speaker 2: And the bombing of Darwin unfortunately celebrated only or commemoraate

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Speaker 2: we are at the bombing of Darwin that changed the

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Speaker 3: Something is not right there.

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Speaker 1: Now, Connor, I want to ask you. Obviously, there's been

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Speaker 1: Leah Fanokiro defended her decision not to acknowledge traditional owners

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Speaker 1: its meaning. What's your take on this? Did you still

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Speaker 2: Let me take it from another perspective. It was not

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 2: We did a welcome to country under the Liberal federal government.

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Speaker 3: We did the label.

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Speaker 2: We did the same here with the CLP government. Now

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Speaker 2: we had dates speakers, seven of them one way or another.

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Speaker 3: Going the same, the same thing.

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Speaker 2: They wanted a knowledge to countries. Certainly they want another country,

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Speaker 2: My thing was, I thank very much jas Buffett for

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Speaker 2: It's a chief minister's head decision what to do what

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Speaker 1: What's the process from council's perspective, Like, do you is

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Speaker 2: Our choice to have a welcome to country. It's not

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Speaker 1: So it's a It's not a protocol that it must

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Speaker 2: Choose to do that one and Council always has done it,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's an operational matter. It doesn't get

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Speaker 2: But again, how many events would do a year? I

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't surprise when it was already done by

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Speaker 3: Has already been done. Why we should do that again?

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Speaker 1: I want to move along corn. We know that there

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Speaker 2: Atkins Roads will open on the twenty seventh of February,

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Speaker 2: We hit the snag. The company that's supposed to supply

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Speaker 1: So a toilet is holding a block the Cyclone Tracy Monument.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem. We've got everything, I believe everything is

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Speaker 1: But that other area is going to open on the

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Speaker 3: Road is going to open. Yes, when do.

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Speaker 1: You reckon this thing's going to open? This monument?

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Speaker 2: It would be it will be here before that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Of things we get to get from down south. Very

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Speaker 1: I remember at Columbai with the new toilet and on

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Speaker 2: the automatic toilets, some of them are about two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred grand for those stinkers they don't smell god.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem we've got is it's not a toilet,

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Speaker 2: it's the people that misuse them. And if you go

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Speaker 2: it tended to be used, then everybody else pays for it.

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Speaker 1: All right, we better move on from the toilet. I

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Speaker 3: Why Well, the emotion was for three months.

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Speaker 2: We did the three months, and now what we're going

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Speaker 3: How did we have good results?

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Speaker 2: We're going to ask the people we've got business in

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Speaker 2: you see your results? You had any positive outcomes? Do

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Speaker 3: So we'll find out to.

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Speaker 2: See how effective it is and then we'll make a

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Speaker 1: In addition to obviously those changes with the CBD parking,

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Speaker 2: It has to go through the DCA like any other building,

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Speaker 2: the facade. This will be provided. It's a normal process

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Speaker 1: And so you're confident once th itch changes happened, this

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Speaker 2: Look, somebody said to me, we're a capital city. I

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Speaker 2: to go higher twice as high, but that will live

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Speaker 3: So what he did?

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Speaker 2: He built war to war twelve stories. Can't see the

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Speaker 2: to go higher, same same area.

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Speaker 3: But high.

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Speaker 2: No, the use of people objected. So now we've got

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Speaker 2: This is what we have to consider. What we really want.

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Speaker 2: We want world to world. We want buildings that allow

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Speaker 2: us to see the landscape. It's like people complaining to

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Speaker 2: esplanade so we can see you know, you do it

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Speaker 2: for the tourists so they can see the ocean.

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Speaker 1: So con in terms of you know, the DCI then

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Speaker 1: deferring that decision. Is that what you spoke about? Then

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Speaker 1: is that the only concern that?

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Speaker 2: That's what they mentioned at the moment, And they're going

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Speaker 2: back again. I believe this march and they're going to

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Speaker 2: consider it and then make a decision.

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Speaker 3: It's not normal process of this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I would be more worried if the start

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Speaker 2: ask question about the construction, the stability of the building,

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Speaker 2: things like that. But this is actually cosmetics and they

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Speaker 2: develop a camp providers.

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Speaker 1: Answer, all right, con before I let you go, I

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Speaker 1: know the new elected member is set to be sworn

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Speaker 1: in today.

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Speaker 2: Merella Merrella Fijoys are new elected members following the process

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Speaker 2: today will come to the councilor. We have a small ceremony.

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Speaker 2: We are sworn in as a councilor and she will

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Speaker 2: take a seat and then she will find out how

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Speaker 2: what it means to be a councilor. And Merrell, I'm

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Speaker 2: warning you. Everything is your fault. If it ranges, your fault.

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Speaker 2: If it's sunny, it's your fault. If the road is

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Speaker 2: so reflective is your fault. If the if the full

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Speaker 2: dones your fault.

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Speaker 3: But you asked for it.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You put your hand up. That's what That's what you're

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Speaker 1: going to expect. People will raise.

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Speaker 2: Those people putting their hand up because they want to

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Speaker 2: do something for the community, not sitting in front of

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Speaker 2: a keyboard comparing about everything be when they never ever

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Speaker 2: put their hands up to do something with the community.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, very quickly, conn before I let you go Nate

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Speaker 1: orc week and reconciliation Week, I understand that there are

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Speaker 1: some grants applications open on the first of March.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we've got grants and we've got community grants. As

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Speaker 2: well fifty thousand dollars for the reconciliation and a night

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Speaker 2: or quick. Please, if you've got something that you think

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Speaker 2: it can be it is worth it, apply to us.

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Speaker 2: We've got money between five twenty five dollars. You're fid

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Speaker 2: in for groups. Applications open on side of the first

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Speaker 2: of March until Monday, the thirty first of March. Do it,

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Speaker 2: recognize your groups and get some money to do something

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Speaker 2: even better good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Combat Scular is always good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining. It's a bit nice this morning.

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Speaker 3: We have a good morning. Have a good morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks Corn