WEBVTT - Is This Rude Behaviour Or Are We All Doing It? 🥴

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast, Happy Lines.

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<v Speaker 2>A little listener question, is this rude now on the

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<v Speaker 2>sheet that I have here? Yeah? Is this rude? That's

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<v Speaker 2>all that's written. So we're just going to get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, where is our cult located.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooms is working today? Everyone? She's clocked on? Award winning

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<v Speaker 1>podcaster always always Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Flex and Frooms on kit in.

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<v Speaker 1>Good news potentially bad news, depending on how you're geared

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<v Speaker 1>positively or negatively. I did come across a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a viral video. I feel like a Facebook mom. It's

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<v Speaker 1>every day viral video. Viral video. Read a book, cite

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<v Speaker 1>the encyclopedia anyway, computer in the seventies, nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, predicted the end of the world using a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple line graph, and that's what hurts me the most.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't any complex technology. It was simple maths, protractor, ruler,

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<v Speaker 1>are a few lines and it's pretty sad. It's the source,

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<v Speaker 1>the reference. The use name is viral history. Not sure

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find it. Who's the guy speaking? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>as a robot. No, it's a real man, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>play it for you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Very simple graphs which project what's going to happen to

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<v Speaker 3>the planet over the next one hundred and fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>if we don't do something drastic to stop it. From

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty on, the quality of life diminishes. Here we

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<v Speaker 3>are about the turn of the century, and we come

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<v Speaker 3>up to the twenty twenty and it's really come right

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<v Speaker 3>back while people, of course, means that you start to

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<v Speaker 3>chew up your supply of natural resources. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>this curve here, being curve that shows that slowly but

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<v Speaker 3>steadily the pool of natural wealth in the world, natural resources, minerals, oil,

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<v Speaker 3>and so on, is slowly but steadily diminishing. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is the situation. As population increases, the quality of life decreases,

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<v Speaker 3>and the supply of natural resources decreases. But haven't looked

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<v Speaker 3>at this curve here. This is called the Z curve,

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<v Speaker 3>and it represents poplar pollution. Now predictably enough, as the

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<v Speaker 3>population increases. Up to nineteen eighty, pollution increases is more rubbish.

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<v Speaker 3>But from nineteen eighty to the year twenty twenty, pollution

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<v Speaker 3>really takes off. This is assuming of course, that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't do anything about it. So the year twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>the condition of the planet starts to become highly critical,

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<v Speaker 3>and if we don't do anything about it, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen. The quality of life is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go right back to practically zero. Pollution is going

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<v Speaker 3>to become so serious right out here that it will

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<v Speaker 3>start to kill people. So the population will diminish right

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<v Speaker 3>back here less than it was in the year nineteen hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>and at this stage round about the year twenty forty

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<v Speaker 3>two and fifty, civilized life as we know on this

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<v Speaker 3>planet will cease to exist. Well hopefully, of course it

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<v Speaker 3>won't be allowed to happen, but it's taken this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shock treatment to nudge governments into doing something, and

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<v Speaker 3>slowly we are. We're starting to clean up our atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>where starting to recycle out rubbish. We're doing something positive

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<v Speaker 3>about population control.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, First, you got laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the first thing I love to hear in Australian accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, And plainly speaking, he said pollution going

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<v Speaker 1>right up, quality of life going right down, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know that was nineteen seventy and he'd imply that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a push had been happening at that time. It's not beforehand,

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<v Speaker 1>just fifty years ago exactly. Yes, that felt like it'selt

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<v Speaker 1>like he was kind of like, this is where our

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<v Speaker 1>wits end now, so let's start making changes. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to you in twenty twenty three to say, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>a few things didn't get done half a century later,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get to it. But what I will say

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<v Speaker 1>is that if we are on track for a late

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifty oblivion, what are we going to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of our time?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, I mean at least was to be like, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got good years left.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like the natural resolution of that

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<v Speaker 1>time here.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to yeah, like in the old days when

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<v Speaker 2>people died when they were fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Embracing tradition. Wow, all that to say, a few things

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<v Speaker 1>remain true. Society does not respect academics, women in academics.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it's makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times can we hear the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>information told in a thousand different ways, with a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>different bits of evidence, and just nothing happens. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the bit I'm confused by, And the sinister part of

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<v Speaker 1>me is like the people who have the resources to

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<v Speaker 1>not be affected will be unaffected, regardless, regardless what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're not trying to busy themselves with what's your word?

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<v Speaker 1>Common folk? Common with common folk work, it's not on

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<v Speaker 1>their agenda. And unfortunately, I fear I understand that time

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about some dating content, I did make a

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<v Speaker 1>vow that anytime we'd discuss it, though, it would need

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<v Speaker 1>to be from a fresh new angle. Actually, because by

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<v Speaker 1>the time this reaches you, people have plagiarized us already.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking in the mere minutes, it's gone from our

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<v Speaker 1>mouth to this microphone and uploaded into the airwaves. Some

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<v Speaker 1>other podcasts like this is good information, and they plagiarize it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in coming to you with information that only we could,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got tiktoks, we've got treachery, We've also got a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say, wait for it, wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the ultimate indicator of a

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<v Speaker 1>successful relationship. I'm talking at the early stages when you

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<v Speaker 1>just like first touched fingers with someone, when you first

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<v Speaker 1>even looked at them. What is the ultimate indicator? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the level of attraction you share?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Your financial status is it? Is it the clothes you're wearing?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the pheromones. According to research research, it is inconclusive, inconclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, it's just vibes. Listen to this TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>by Ben Spalos. He'll do a much better job at

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<v Speaker 1>explaining the nonsense that is happening when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>picking a partner and picking a mate. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he'll make you feel ashamed for how much effort, how

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<v Speaker 1>much specificity and strategy you put into it up until

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<v Speaker 1>this point, because it was all for no reason, for nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And is this guy like a scientist.

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<v Speaker 4>I've thought about this recently, so but no one saw this.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just say this again so you can understand this.

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<v Speaker 4>I read a study recently called is Romantic Desire Predictable?

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<v Speaker 4>And they found no bro stick around. They found if

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<v Speaker 4>they use machine learning to try and create models to

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<v Speaker 4>try and predict if people would like each other when

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<v Speaker 4>they met, they can predict how relatively they could predict

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<v Speaker 4>people's tastes. Kind of, they can predict how relatively attractive

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<v Speaker 4>people are generally other people, but the effect was really small.

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<v Speaker 4>But dude, when two people came together, they couldn't predict anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's completely there dark How they.

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<v Speaker 4>Started this article and the introduction, they talked about how

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<v Speaker 4>speed dating apps make these claims that they can do this,

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<v Speaker 4>but that these claims aren't scientifically vetted. The article is

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<v Speaker 4>called is Romantic Desire Predictable? The primary author Samantha Jowel.

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<v Speaker 4>You can literally read this if you look this up

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<v Speaker 4>on the internet to please.

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<v Speaker 1>Do excuse me, but saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just joker origin story.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we're hearing now, what we're going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>in our podcast is a lot of people, ourselves included,

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<v Speaker 1>have convinced ourselves that dating and finding a partner is

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<v Speaker 1>a series of strategic moves, right, especially in that early

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<v Speaker 1>stage before you even met someone. The way you're presenting yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>the social circles you hang out with, the energy that

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<v Speaker 1>permeates the room, all of this feels so intentional. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's to tract the right partner to have the right relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're finding is, yes, you can dress yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a certain way that will make yourself look more appealing,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to certain places, you can interact with

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<v Speaker 1>certain kinds of people, But whether or not there will

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<v Speaker 1>be romantic compatibility is totally up to chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa chance vibes is this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Study University of Pennsylvania Rooms is like, unfortunately, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to debunk the science and even there's more to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's debate this because something about the way that relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are the fifty percent at minimum divorce rate, the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of dating just conjecture and squabble and discussion there is

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really getting people to this end goal they

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<v Speaker 1>think it is. Alas, our podcast is Flex and Rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to it anywhere you get good podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>We recommend it four point nine stars, thousands of reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has won awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you laugh just a way like you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>in this bay funny to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're a comedian. Comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're you've been shooting in for the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, you would have known that we are building

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<v Speaker 1>conceptually a cult or a utopia. We talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the world is going to shoot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's a practical conversation to have, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also think we can invite some whimsy to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let's have a little fun with it. A

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes ago, I told you that a computer predicted

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the world in the seventies. Twenty fifty

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<v Speaker 1>was the date that was given. But not to stress,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the meantime we can still have fun. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to join our cult? By listening, you're already

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<v Speaker 1>the admission is there implicated entry fees free. We figured

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<v Speaker 1>out that I am the leader. Yes, the cult name

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<v Speaker 1>is Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>The third space yep. And then the byeline is getting

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<v Speaker 2>near it getting near?

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<v Speaker 1>It was that? Actually what I something like that? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a work in progress. Everyone in the details,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really matter. It's about the feeling and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the unity, belonging to community, et cetera. Now, geographically,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, here, no, I gotta I got everyone, no

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<v Speaker 1>stress sits here right here. Our cult is called redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>The byline, the third space. We prioritize getting near and

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<v Speaker 1>bonding with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we determined what roles people want to play.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, where we're gonna build the place. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this one house on domain I've been wanting on

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<v Speaker 1>real estate dot com. Actually they're probably owned by the

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<v Speaker 1>same people these days. You know, this is one house

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<v Speaker 1>I've wanted to buy for a Jerz it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in another one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the like Palace, so the Greek not that one, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know the one you're talking about. No, this

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<v Speaker 1>one is in Queensland, Incily. If you're time in the

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<v Speaker 1>bubble house real estate dot com, it'll be there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been taken off sale, okay. And it was a really

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<v Speaker 1>great price for a cult house. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>about under two million. If we're put our money together,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely get the mortgage out. Don't stress. If we

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<v Speaker 1>all put our money together, we can really get something done.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an architectural marvel. The person selling is the

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<v Speaker 1>architect who actually built the space. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of bubbles, like smashed together to build. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>dome sque house. It looks like a spaceship. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to look for it the other day. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if it's still available to buy, but if

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<v Speaker 1>we're interested, I can reach out directly. In start of

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<v Speaker 1>fear those conversations, I'd be more than happy to. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the coolest thing ever Now in terms of be

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<v Speaker 1>living there permanently, that is just me. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>hold cult sessions on the lawn plea. The back because

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<v Speaker 1>we will have some land and we will be growing

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<v Speaker 1>various things on the land.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the craziest thing I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful. Wow, don't worry, I will buy that house

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Cult. Oh no, cult, I'm not stressed. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, though, if we're talking about a modern day

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<v Speaker 1>cult and the way to do it, well, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how to do anything in the best way possible,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to look at what's not worked previously. And

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<v Speaker 1>part of the key theme about a lot of cults

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<v Speaker 1>is this isolation that happens from your regular life and

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<v Speaker 1>your family into this shared space. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>share a space. I live alone for a reason, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we should live together in this cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we live in the same suburb, Yeah, that'd be sick, Collingwood,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same country. Sure, that'd be sick. But the

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<v Speaker 1>same exact like home. Not necessary. We're adults, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I don't think it's necessary. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a cool little like added package. You reach the

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<v Speaker 1>top level, sure, but as a starting we're we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to reach the world here. I think eight billion people

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<v Speaker 1>live on one plot of land.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely. It's a virtual place. It's like giving the

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<v Speaker 2>meta virtual.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a hotel, everyone, just have a hotel. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a love line. Please, Caitlyn play the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Lovely. This is my favorite segment because it's when

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<v Speaker 2>a listener sends in h an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, relationship dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to get to the bottom of this is

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<v Speaker 2>from a real life listener. Her name is redacted. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to.

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<v Speaker 1>You said a couple minutes ago. So maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that you don't know. So you said earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>you spoke to a listener who didn't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>word redacted was and then proceeded not to explain what

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<v Speaker 1>it was and then proceed to use it further.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but that's what it is. He wouln google

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<v Speaker 2>it if they want. Okay, okay, So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>read this out. Then we're going to take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll come back with our opinion. So everybody please listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Hats on, let's go. I'm seeing a guy who I

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<v Speaker 2>was in the talking stage with for three months while

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<v Speaker 2>he traveled well in Brackets. We met the week before

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<v Speaker 2>he left, but was super good at keeping in touch

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<v Speaker 2>while he was away cute. We got on so well

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<v Speaker 2>during that stage that I assumed it would be fireworks

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<v Speaker 2>when he finally got back. That wasn't the case for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But he seems feel all the sparks in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>as he is voiced many times that I'm perfect, and

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like we've known each other before. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had sex and been intimate a handful of times,

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<v Speaker 2>I know for certain that there's no massive spark and

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<v Speaker 2>I won't be able to be exclusive with him. I've

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<v Speaker 2>voiced this to him and he said he agrees and

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<v Speaker 2>also wants something low commitment, but then he continues to

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<v Speaker 2>do very big commitment things like hosting family dinners. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm over suggesting data activities involve a lot of more,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more than casual sex, and just generally being

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<v Speaker 2>head over heels for me. Lol. What I'm wondering is

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<v Speaker 2>why it's so hard for me to confront the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm just not that into him. In brackets to

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<v Speaker 2>tie in through his favor audio experience xx Ah finished brackets, Lol.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems I'm so conditioned to expect a man to

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<v Speaker 2>reject me that I can't comprehend what to do when

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<v Speaker 2>the cards are reversed and I'm the one wanting less

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<v Speaker 2>exclusivity from a seemingly perfect man. Oh my god, Can

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<v Speaker 2>you gos relate to this confusion when it comes with

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<v Speaker 2>a man who can't get enough of you? Or am

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<v Speaker 2>I sabotaging an otherwise amazing thing? I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep a casual and see other people, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>it would be disrespectful, considering he's only showing me respect

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<v Speaker 2>and affection, things most girls would kill for. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>sure you have some juicy thoughts. Love you both, and

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<v Speaker 2>Mickey more than life itself. You're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, babes. So this one's titled You're the

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<v Speaker 2>Problem actually part one the problem. That's just part of

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<v Speaker 2>my notes. Yeah please, there's some residual feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah ye.

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<v Speaker 2>So this woman was in the talking stage with the

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<v Speaker 2>guy for three weeks. They met a week before months

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<v Speaker 2>three months, they met a week before he went overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were dearly dealing while he was os. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the first problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Have great conversations. She did say they were. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, continue, you look like you were frowning.

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<v Speaker 1>She did say they were able to keep up some

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<v Speaker 1>really good conversations, which was a good sign. And assume

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<v Speaker 1>that when he get back, sparks would be a flying.

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<v Speaker 1>The sparks were not flying. They went on dates, participated

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<v Speaker 1>in intimate activities. The vibes are just not there for her.

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<v Speaker 2>For him, he's thinking, oh my god, I found we've

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<v Speaker 2>known each other in the life. When they hit you

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<v Speaker 2>with that that he's done this from sort of magic. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So my opinion on this is that he is whipped

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<v Speaker 2>because a like, while he's traveling, he was putting his

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<v Speaker 2>eggs in your basket. So he's around gallivanting the world.

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<v Speaker 2>In his mind, he's seeing the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on holidays. Do you know what I'm saying? Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's gallivanting and he's still putting his eggs into your basket,

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<v Speaker 2>so he has like an invested interest. Meanwhile it's giving.

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<v Speaker 2>It's giving, Like this is why you need to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time together and not talk on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>You runner rooms is correct. That's not where I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was going. And I didn't even think of that,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, you are so right? People don't ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprise, No, it's a nice feeling to be like.

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<v Speaker 1>You are so right, people will shame you for being

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<v Speaker 1>what I refer to as a turbo data someone. In

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<v Speaker 1>the early stages of dating, you spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive time together. You might go on three dates a week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, asleep over, you're talking consistently. People say, slow

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<v Speaker 1>it down, get to know each other, just thro your

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls. Don't integrate and immerse yourself in each other

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<v Speaker 1>so soon, because what if it doesn't work out, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have the adverse. And obviously in this instance, there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing to do. You had to speak virtually the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. But a lot of us can relate to

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining virtual dynamics so just pale in comparison to physical dynamics.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's because we're all trained in the

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<v Speaker 1>language and the art of interacting online. When I say

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<v Speaker 1>we all, I'm talking about a certain demographic of internet user,

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<v Speaker 1>dating app user. You know what to say and how

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<v Speaker 1>to appear. And there's something so enticing and addictive and

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean related about text messaging and online interactions. And

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<v Speaker 1>in real life you get the best of the best

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst of the worst. So all the good

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<v Speaker 1>things seeing the way somebody laughs what their voice actually

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like. Holding them going places, it's really exciting. They

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<v Speaker 1>get the worst, the worst. You're like, oh, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>never blow their nose and they're always just sniffling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yuh yeah, that's a bit of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I no oh okay, oh wow, I start a strong lome.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they are always just like touching things when you

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<v Speaker 1>go to shopping centers, and they have no sense of

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<v Speaker 1>spatial awareness, and they're always running into people, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>so loud in restaurants, and you don't catch this online

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly you're creating a much more clear picture and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really like what you see in this instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I commend you for recognizing that what you're experiencing now

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<v Speaker 1>is a reverse situation of what other people experience, where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're usually the person who's waiting to be

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<v Speaker 1>rejected and this time you've got quote unquote the power.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, like, I think that entertaining someone who's not

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<v Speaker 1>right for you for or impartial reasons, it's just as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as entertaining someone who's not right for you for

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong, wrong reasons. They're taking up space. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to clear up your roster, clear cash clear cookies and

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<v Speaker 1>make space for the real deal. I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine this person would hate to know that the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason why you're keeping them around is because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite good enough for you to leave them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and I will say as well, maybe like relish

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<v Speaker 2>in the feeling of being on the you're like shoes

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<v Speaker 2>on You're like the shoes on the other foot. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never experienced this. I would take this as a learning

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to be like all the times that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>on the receiving end, it hasn't really been personal. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been something a third thing that's a secret third thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a listeners submission. Wanted to know if they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Rude not the right person to ask. My parameter is

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<v Speaker 1>so off sometimes I feel like I'm being rude, no polite,

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<v Speaker 1>or like there have been moments where I've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>like be the bigger person and not said something because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was gonna say something shady. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>come across this me listening intently to you. I see

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<v Speaker 1>the videos, Babe, in my head. I'm like, sometimes Fruits

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<v Speaker 1>will stop talking like is everything occurrent? Like yeah, why?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I see the playback.

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<v Speaker 2>Please continue a flex and frooms. I love your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it considered rude? And they've just gone straight into it?

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<v Speaker 2>I love this. Isn't it considered rude for your date

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<v Speaker 2>or friend or person you're hanging out with to not

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<v Speaker 2>introduce you to whoever they run into. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>starting to date a guy and whenever we run into

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<v Speaker 2>people he knew, he would literally ignore me. Even the

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<v Speaker 2>person he would run into would look me in the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and not say anything. This was a huge turn

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<v Speaker 2>off for me, and in my opinion, a sign of disrespect.

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<v Speaker 2>He can call me a friend or just say something

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<v Speaker 2>like this is insert name here instead nothing. We're no

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<v Speaker 2>longer dating a upset devil face nice. I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>this is a pet peve of mine as well, Queen.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very easy to say, hey, okay, I'm out myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I never remembert anyone's name. Okay, So when I'm with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else in public and I'm going to run into you,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say I know you well, I'm still the name

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<v Speaker 2>is going ah ah, I'll say, hey, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>have you met Roger? Like I'll be like, oh hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Roger, And then I just will like hope

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<v Speaker 2>that Roger will be like, hey, I'm Roger, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, my name's Lucy. Right, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I could never have someone m I don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of like being with someone and they're just like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there like a b May I please please don't.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been instances where I have not introduced the

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<v Speaker 1>person i'm speed to the person i'm with because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the person i'm speaking to, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to invite them further into my life and spread

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<v Speaker 1>the network wide open and provide context. It's similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the way that, like, you know, sometimes you receive an

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<v Speaker 1>email from someone and you're like, just because you've sent

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's landed, I'm not going to respond because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to respond to what's in this email.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to deal with it. Same

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<v Speaker 1>with interactions. I really value the friends that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also have a ton of people that I

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<v Speaker 1>interact with on a daily basis who I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's necessary to rope them in or like bridge the

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<v Speaker 1>gap between stranger and close person. To me, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not necessary. Sometimes. If that's not the case, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>at just like a communal house party or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't introduce the person I'm with to the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>saying hello, because I don't want to have a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>conversation than a fleeting high by, because if I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do a high hi, this is Licinda to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm a bit of that, but it's obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I want to be I obvious in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it's sending mixed signals. I want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>clear what I'm doing without having to say the words.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. So if I've heard a few feelings

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<v Speaker 1>on the way, I do understand, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We unreservedly don't apologize. But there's definitely some empathy there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in this instance, I see why you'd feel some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way. It feels when it's in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of a dating concept, you'd be like, whoa, whoa, Can

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little suck for my efforts here and

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledgment a little Hi? It's my friend, lil, But I

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<v Speaker 1>get I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because he forgot your name. He's one of mine.

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