1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get hated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: That is so fat thank you. I had a revelation 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: last night. 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I was watching Chloe Zep and Mitchell's YouTube channel and 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: the starting song, the intro song, it literally sounds like 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Chloe Zep singing, but it's not her. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Does anybody else think this? Yes? 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: I think we need to insert it here for those 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: who have not heard of it. Even if the goods 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and sing good who sticks? 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: Oh? 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Now, I like watching Chloe and Mitch's YouTube channel, but 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I hate the song. 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: But I find myself singing. 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: A lot really yeah, like if I'm a But is 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: that not exactly what Chloe's EPP's voice would be if 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: she sang really well? And actually she does have quite 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: a good singing voice from what I've heard on her 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Insta stories. 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah she does. 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of that, like Rise and 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Shine Kylie Jennimo it was a bit of a huskiness 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: to the voice that I think it would belong to. 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I've got a track down who the singer on 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: this theme song is. Is it just me or do 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: you always imagine when you're listening to a podcast that 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: people look way better. 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: Looking than they actually are. 33 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: It's funny to say that, because my mind was blown 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: when I saw what the people from Your Wrong About 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: look like. So I used to imagine that Michael Hobbs 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: looked like that actor from Shits Kreiger. I think his 37 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: name is Daniel Levy. Well, whenever I listened to call 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: her daddy, I always imagine Alex Cooper looking like Barbie 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: from that La Wag show. She really does actually look low. 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I imagine her looking like Tokyo from Money Heis. 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't know why it's funny. 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I actually imagine her looking like Kendra from the playby Mansion. Well. 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: I would love to hear one if you think that 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like Chloe's ep singing in their starting YouTube bit. 45 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: And I would also love to hear if there are 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: certain people that you've heard on podcasts that you imagined 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: to look like a totally different person. 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: I've got to say. 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: It was funny because in our Facebook community we shared 50 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: that Michelle Andrews had gotten engaged, so congratulations to Michelle. 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: It was really lovely news. 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: However, someone posted a comment saying that they have always 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: been getting Michelle and Zara mixed up and they couldn't 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: believe that Michelle actually like. Yeah, a perplex as to 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: where the people imagine us just looking like the same person, 56 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: because we've got so many comments that people can't tell 57 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: our voices apart, and we're really trying hard to think 58 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: of a way to make it a bit easier for everyone, 59 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: just auto tune them to different I'm Nadia Bartow, fashion 60 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: ambassador at high Point Shopping Center and lifestyle blogger at 61 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Chronicles of Nadia. She's a glamorous fashionist that has become 62 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: an Australian style icon. Nadia Bartell owns a highly successful 63 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: fashion label, ran a popular fashion blog, managed a high 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: end e commerce store, and is a mum to two boys. However, 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: often in the media she has reduced to simply. 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 2: The status of a wag. 67 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Today, on her thirty six birthday, we take a look 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: back at who is really behind that wag status from 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: her life in magazines to that infamous breakup. Sophie and 70 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: I were really excited to talk about Nadia. We were 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: discussing it last week and it seemed perfect with today 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: being her birthday, to actually do a deep dive about 73 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: her life. 74 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know about you guys. 75 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: But I realized that I'd never really heard Nadia speak 76 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: before because I follow her on Instagram and I've seen 77 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: her at the brown Low, but I hadn't really I 78 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: didn't really know what she sounded like. Yeah, that's the 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: story of so many famous women. We spoke last week 80 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: about Kate Middleton and also Princess Diana and how we've 81 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: we never really heard them speak until they became engaged. 82 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: It is funny because when you don't hear someone's voice, 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you kind of develop an idea of what they're like 84 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: in your head, and you realize as soon as you 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: hear them speak that it's nothing to what they are 86 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: actually like. I was really impressed listening to Nadia speak 87 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: on a Mom of mea podcast, and it was from 88 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, but she was so artick it and doing 89 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of research into her past before she 90 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: became a wag. She actually studied a Bachelor of Business Administration, 91 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Public Relations, and Advertising and Applied Communication at Latrobe University. 92 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this explains why she has been so 93 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: successful with her brands but also facing criticism in the 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: public eye. She seems to have dealt with it in 95 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: a really mature way. 96 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: What do you guys think of the term wag though, 98 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: because I feel like often when it's discussed, it seems 99 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: to be a negative term or it has this negative connotation. 100 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to agree. 101 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, taking a look back at Nadio Bartel's life, 102 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: I really do think that she was reduced to this 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: wag status that is really not fitting to her or 104 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: any of the wags. I do think it's sad that 105 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: we have to classify women who date sportsmen as just 106 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: being a wag. I feel like that really takes away 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: their own personal status and achievements. It does seem very 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: old school, doesn't it Just. 109 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: To be it's pretty degrading. I feel it is a 110 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: very degrading term. 111 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: There's a lot of connotations that come with the term wag, 112 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: And what I think think about is someone who was 113 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: a gold digger, Yeah, someone who wants fame, and someone 114 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: who has no life or ambitions of their own, and 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: I think when we take a look back at all 116 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: of the things Nadia had achieved, she is so far 117 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: from that and she really has, you know, becoming to 118 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: her own brand, particularly since she has separated from Jimmy Bartel. 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: One thing that. 120 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I was most surprised about when I was doing my 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: research was the fact that I couldn't actually remember what 122 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Nadia Bartell's maiden name was. Can you guys think of her? Yeah, 123 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea. It's just because she still 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: goes by Nadia Bartel obviously. Now. Yeah, well, her maiden 125 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: name is actually Nadia Coppolino, and I just can never 126 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: remember her being referred to as that. Well, I think 127 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: because Nadia is quite a unique name. I think that's 128 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the time what she probably was referred 129 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: to just simply Nadia when we were introduced to her 130 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: for the first time. Do you think it's a point 131 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: of the Australian media being a little bit racist in 132 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: the fact that her last name is Italian and a 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: little bit difficult to say because I feel like Rebecca 134 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Judd was always known as Becca Twigglely for a long 135 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: time and people knew her name. I mean, that could 136 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: be it, but I also feel like Nadia Bartel became 137 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: more of an icon after she got married. 138 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 139 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: I struggled to think of a lot of other wags 140 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: last names apart from Rebecca Twiggly, and I think the 141 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: reason Twiggly stuck was because the media was so obsessed 142 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: with her skinny frame. So I feel like the word 143 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: twig really stuck with her. Do you also think it 144 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: might be because of Instagram? Because Nadia Bartel got married 145 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: to Jimmy in twenty fourteen, so that was kind of 146 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: the peak of Instagram. I know it was around twenty eleven, 147 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: but I think she used to go by her chronicles 148 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: of Nadia, so I think maybe we weren't used to 149 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: seeing her full name on her Instagram at all. That's 150 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: like Mark Murphy's girlfriend. She was huge on Instagram, but 151 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: she didn't go by her full name. She went by 152 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: one of those blog account names, se Vogue or something. 153 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I think she still is that, yes, she have them, 154 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: and I think her maiden name was Anyway. So before 155 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Nadia actually met Jimmy Bartel, as I said, she studied 156 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: at UNI, and she actually she became an account and 157 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: advertising manager at Marie Claire and in Style, So she 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: worked in the magazine industry for five years before launching 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: her own online fashion hub called Chronicles of Nadia in 160 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. That really surprises me because I didn't know 161 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that she had a background in magazines at all. I 162 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: assumed that, you know, as the media likes to have 163 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: us think, that she kind of piggybacked off part of 164 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy's fame and started that up. So that's actually pretty 165 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: amazing that she started her own blog off the back 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: of her previous experience. Now, so please tell me you 167 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: get the joke the name Chronicles of Nadia. 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: To get it? 169 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh, is it Narnia of Narnia? It did take me 170 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: from she passed the test. Well. 171 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: I think, Sophie, that there. 172 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Might have been some confusion around, as you said, this 173 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: idea that Nadia was piggybacking off Jimmy, because the pair 174 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: actually met in twenty eighteen when Nadia was working as 175 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: a promotional model at the Grand Prix. So I feel 176 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: like I potentially thought she was just a model, which 177 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, back in two thousand and eight, I feel 178 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: like that was quite common way was quite a common 179 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: way for women to think about wags, and I think 180 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: that now we've really understand that, No, these women do 181 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: so much more and they've really got their own life 182 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: and their own successes that I think that's why I'm 183 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: so happy to talk about Nadia today. I think it 184 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: does stem from a little bit of jealousy, to be honest, 185 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like AFL footballers are so sought after, 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: so when we do see them dating particular women, we think, oh, 187 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: they must be a model, they mustn't do anything, they 188 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: must just be using them for their money and their fame. Well, 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: I also think that in the early two thousands, and 190 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: as we said, this happened in two thousand and eight, 191 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: I feel like around that time, for a lot of 192 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: girls growing up, it sort of seemed like the ultimate 193 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: status symbol if you were dating an AFL player. Like, 194 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, obviously, we live in Adelaide, which is 195 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: a very heavily AFL crazed state, so I assume in 196 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Melbourne it would be ten times worse, and the amount 197 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: of AFL players going to nightclubs and being about ten 198 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: would be absolutely enormous. Yeah, I definitely think it was 199 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: a status thing and Nadia actually met Jimmy when Geelong were. 200 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: At their peak of their success. 201 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: So Geelong had just won a premiership in two thousand 202 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: and seven and they then backed it up by being 203 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: in the Grand Final in two thousand and eight. So 204 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Nadia was actually interviewed at one of the Grand Finals 205 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: to give advice on how partners should deal with their partner, 206 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, being a part of such a big sporting spectacle, 207 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: and she was just so lovely and was just saying that, 208 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, you've really got to be there to support 209 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: your partner. 210 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: You can't change who you are to them, win or loss. 211 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: And it was really interesting to hear that very caring 212 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: side to her because we obviously know what's happened, and 213 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: for those who don't, there is a. 214 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: Very sad afair story that. 215 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: We're going to get into. But it was just interesting 216 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: to hear her talk so lovingly about Jimmy. Do you 217 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: know what. This is so random, but I've been watching 218 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Chloe and Lamar the old series and it's so funny 219 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: because we were talking just earlier about how it's every 220 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: young girl's dream to date a footballer back in the day, 221 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: but watching that, it seemed to be such a horror 222 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: life as a wife or girlfriend of an elite athlete 223 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: because everything is about them. Poor Chloie had to follow 224 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Lamar over to Texas and he took all of his 225 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: moods out on her. And I feel like there is 226 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: this very unglamorous side of actually being a wife and 227 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: girlfriend that people don't really talk about. Will Nadia actually 228 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: shared her thoughts on the term wag on a Muma 229 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Mea podcast and she basically said that she doesn't love 230 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: the term, and she says that, you know, people have 231 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: got to remember that they're actually in Australia. It's not 232 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: like they are dealing with athletes that have the wealth 233 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: of soccer players, and that people seem to kind of 234 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: make out that their life is so glamorous when it's 235 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: really not. 236 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: And I've got to say it's hard. 237 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: As Sophie said, we've grown up watching AFL football, like 238 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: we were massive Crows fans, and it used to be 239 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a big deal, like your whole weekend would revolve around 240 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: watching the football. 241 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: I remember we would watch the Brownlow it would be 242 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: such a big deal. 243 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: And I think a lot, as we were touching on before, 244 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people were very jealous watching those events, 245 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: I remember being jealous, Oh my god, what an amazing 246 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: glamorous lifestyle, and then you look at their instagrams and 247 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: they're always wearing beautiful things, So I can kind I 248 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: can see why people make that mistake. But as you 249 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: touch on, I think the Brownlow has a lot to 250 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: answer for for thea for this tag wag because as 251 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: you say, it's always touted as the night of Knights. 252 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean in Australia, we really don't have that many 253 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: awards ceremonies apart from the logos as a sorry, but 254 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: we really don't have many award shows. 255 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: So we see these. 256 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Women, women looking the best they can look, being dressed 257 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: by you know, huge designers, on the arms of an 258 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: attractive football player. 259 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: So we do only see that glamorous side. 260 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: We don't see them at home having to put up 261 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: with the moods from their partners, or having to take 262 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: care of the children while their partners are away traveling. 263 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: We never got to see that side, so that's why 264 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: we assumed it was such a glamorous lifestyle. On that 265 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: point of the Brownlow Metal, do you remember when they 266 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: did the wagon we all so they basically just had 267 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: this little Yeah, they had this wheel set up where 268 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: they Susan. It basically was a big lazy Susan, but 269 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: the wag had to stand on it and it just 270 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: moved around so you could see the outfit and it's 271 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: so degrading. Her thought that was a good idea. 272 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: It is. It is so great to see how we 273 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: have moved forward because that is no longer acceptable. 274 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about degrading. During my research, I came 275 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: across an article about how Nadia had actually had her 276 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: drink spiked at a Geelong bar. Now this was in 277 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and it's pretty shocking because the article was 278 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: originally published on news dot com do au and was 279 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: entitled brownlow Wag. I think my drink was spiked. So 280 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: to begin with, I think this is a pretty shocking title, 281 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: just referring to her as a brownlow wag, like as 282 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: if she's not even a person. 283 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: But it got worse. 284 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: It was then republished under the title I felt like 285 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't breathe says Nadia Coppolini after collapsing outside bar. 286 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: So there's just no context as to why she's collapsed. 287 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of trying to promote her as this drunk idiot. 288 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: That's about and about well, this woman has literally been 289 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: targeted by someone with bad intentions, either looking to potentially 290 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: attack her or rape her. And these are the sort 291 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: of headlines that we're leading with. 292 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: And you can see why. 293 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: This is why people just have this really bad idea 294 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: of wags and don't really think of them and the 295 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: person that's actually behind that. Yeah, because if you just 296 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: read that headline and didn't read the rest of the article, 297 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: you would think that she just got blackout drunk and 298 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: she's collapsed outside of a pub. So moving on. Two 299 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: years later, Jimmy proposed to Nadia in a romantic, candle 300 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: lit dinner in a secluded heart on a private beach 301 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: in Mexico. It sounds pretty lavish. So she was proposed 302 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: to with this amazing ring that was like, it's an 303 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: absolute rock. Have you guys seen it? I have seen 304 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: it in photos. It's exquisite, this rock. Well, this was 305 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: really the start of what people thought was a fairytale romance. 306 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: The wedding planning really got started early. They got the 307 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 1: style Coat on board, who tried to create a really relaxed, 308 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: resort style getaway experience for their wedding which was held 309 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: on Thealerine Peninsula, and it seemed very fitting because they 310 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: also had a Mexican vibe, which related back to the proposal. 311 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: This wedding was absolutely incredible and if anyone wants to 312 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: check it out, the video is still available on Nadia 313 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Bartel's YouTube channel. 314 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: Apparently the team. 315 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: At the Style Co clopped up over nine hundred hours 316 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: of planning, designing, prepping, doing everything to get this wedding perfect. 317 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: And it really didn't disappoint. As you said, they had 318 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: this really cool Mexican resorts style theme. They had lots 319 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: of like long lounges outside, they were serving cocktails. 320 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: It was just every there was so much attention to detail. 321 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Well that's what happens when you employ I assume a 322 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: very expensive wedding planning business. I hope they weren't charging 323 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: by the hour at nine hundred hours. 324 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: My goodness. 325 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: We have to talk about the dress. So she had 326 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: two dresses. I feel like she was very before her 327 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: time with this one. That being said, Kim Kardashian did 328 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: get married in twenty eleven, I believe, and had three dresses. 329 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: So who were the dresses designed by? Where they sort 330 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of high profile designer. 331 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is my best attempt at the French label. 332 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: They were designed by Jaton Quechure Gowns, so that's. 333 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: A very bet Judd label. She always seems to wear 334 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: that to the brown Low. 335 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: So the first dress was a silk Jersey couture gown 336 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: that was hand beaded with glass pearls and started ceramic beats. 337 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: I really love because Nadia actually did a flashback to 338 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: her wedding dress on Instagram and she said how heavy 339 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the dress actually was was recently, No, like a few 340 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: years after this wedding. It's not really something you want 341 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: to talk about now, No, but she did look absolutely stunning, 342 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: and she said that she was going first sexy yet 343 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: classy vibe, and she really seemed to hit the brief 344 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: with the dress that she chose. Now, now, the second 345 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: one was made from lace and leather, so I don't 346 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: feel like that one would have been any more comfortable 347 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: than the first. 348 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: No, it didn't really look that much more comfortable. 349 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting because Nadia actually said 350 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: that in year ten at high school, I had my 351 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: debutante ball and I firmly told mom and dad that 352 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: it would be the only time they saw me in 353 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: a white wedding style dress, so they had better Rema 354 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: that all changed when I met jim It's really hard 355 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: hearing that quote back because it's clear that the couple 356 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: were very much in love at the time of their wedding, 357 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: and it's strange to sit back in twenty twenty one 358 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: and think, you know, I was watching their video and 359 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, how have they broken up? 360 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: Like how have all these horrible things happened? 361 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Well, that being said, I think that so many couples 362 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: find themselves in this situation and do fall out of love. 363 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I do think that they were both very much in 364 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: love at the time, but sometimes life takes over and 365 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: you evolve and change as people. Yeah. Well, Nadia actually 366 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: touched upon on this interview on a Mama Mia podcast 367 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: about how her life. 368 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: Was really hectic. 369 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: So at this point she was interviewed, she'd just given 370 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: birth well I think he was ten months old, to Austin, 371 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: her first son with Jimmy, and she spoke about how 372 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: she was really trying to juggle everything and you know, 373 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: it got to the end of the day where she'd 374 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: come home and while her and Jimmy would have dinner together, 375 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: they wouldn't really spend that much quality time, and they 376 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: really tried to on the weekend. But again, if you're 377 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: playing AFL football can really be difficult. It's definitely a 378 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: very selfish lifestyle. We got to make sure your body 379 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: is right, you're eating right, your head's in the game, 380 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: you're at training, And a lot of the time people 381 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: around AFL players or other athletes, they do treat them 382 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: differently to the general population. They play so much smoke 383 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: up there are they constantly panned to these clubs and 384 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: really treat it as though they are children. So that's 385 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: why I do think a lot of the time these 386 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: footballers and men find themselves in these situations and they 387 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: never have any repercussions for their actions. Well, especially for Nadia, 388 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: so she not only was trying to juggle everything that 389 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was going on with Jimmy and a new baby, but 390 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: she also had her e commerce platform that was doing 391 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: really well, so she manages that with her sister, and 392 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: she had the Chronicles of Nadia, her fashion blog that 393 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: was really taking off, and it would have been a 394 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: really hard. 395 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: Time for a new mum. Did I hear this. 396 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: Right that Jimmy did all the cooking in the family, 397 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: because that really surprised me. Yeah, so Nadia was saying 398 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: that she's not really a very good cook. So she 399 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: said she's not like a traditional Italian woman, and that 400 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: with joke that he thought he was going to be 401 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: getting like Casters and Lasagnas, like her mum would cook. 402 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: But she did say that her mum's are very good cook. 403 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 2: I actually love this. I love the fact that she said, no, 404 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: this isn't my strength. I'm too busy. 405 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean really, for AFL players, they do spend a 406 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: lot of time at home, so why not do the 407 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: cooking well. In twenty nineteen, Nadia and Jimmy welcome their 408 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: second child, Henley, and I've got to love that mate. 409 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: It's so cute. 410 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he is gorgeous. The two kids are like 411 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: the spitting image of Jimmy. They've got the gorgeous blue 412 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: eyes that he has. And so, you know, at the time, 413 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: when you looked at their family on Instagram, they looked 414 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: bloody perfect. You know, they were jet setting on amazing holidays. 415 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Nadia's got her you know, her e commerce platform, Jimmy's 416 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: extremely successful, and they just look like the perfect couple. 417 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: And so everyone was extremely shocked in August twenty nineteen, 418 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: when the couple reported that they had split. So apparently 419 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: they had actually split two months earlier, and people only 420 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: know that they weren't together because they weren't following each 421 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: other on Instagram. I feel like that's the way everyone 422 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: finds out these days. And so was this actually reported 423 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: in the newspaper that they weren't following each other? Yeah, 424 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: it was reported on and then they had to come 425 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: out and kind of confirm it, and basically Jimmy stayed 426 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: tight lipped. All he said was, yeah, it's not great. 427 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: On three AW radio, we just stays After confirming this breakup, 428 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy was then romantically linked to a Melbourne socialite called 429 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: Lauren Manned. Now, before we get into Lauren, I really 430 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: feel like it's important to go into the drama over 431 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: the green dress because I wasn't even aware of this, 432 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: and I was following the breakup story. Had you guys 433 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: heard about it? No, it's so random as well, because 434 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: you always hear a little black dress, but a green. 435 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: Dress it seems very ominous. 436 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: I actually had heard about the green dress, but I 437 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: feel like you should fill us in in more detail. Okay, 438 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: So this green dress saga was sort of the beginning 439 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: of the end for the relationship. So one day, Nadia 440 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: was rearranging clothes in her dressing room and she noticed 441 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: that her prized green gown was missing. So this dress 442 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: was very brown low esque. I'm assuming it was very expensive. 443 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: So the story goes that the dress disappeared when Nadia 444 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: wasn't around, so it didn't really take her very long 445 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: to realize that Jimmy had actually entertained someone at their 446 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: home while she wasn't there, and they borrowed the dress. 447 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: So they had a huge argument over this dress, and 448 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: apparently Jimmy claimed that one of his AFL buddies had 449 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: borrowed it. However, Nadia is a very smart woman and 450 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: she realized, of course it had to be a woman 451 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: who took the dress. I mean, it's not the smartest 452 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: move on Jimmy's behalf. Is it to loan out your 453 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: wife's dresses to your most recent conquests? No, I mean 454 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't even understand, Like, was he aware that the 455 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: woman took the dress? 456 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: But what was going on? 457 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: But also particularly when Nadia is known for her style, 458 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: like this dress would have appeared in so many photos 459 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: of her at different events. What a low blow as well. 460 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: Not only do you cheat on your wife, but you 461 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: still had and give it to somebody else. Oh, it's 462 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting. So apparently a source told media that the 463 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: dress was only returned once Jimmy rang the woman in 464 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: question and demanded she return the dress asap. Now, I 465 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: heard that this conversation was a very loud one at 466 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: a hairdressing cellar. Yeah. So apparently this source said that 467 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: the girl that had taken the dress was at the 468 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: hairdresser and Jimmy was absolutely tearing shreds off her and 469 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: was screaming down at the phone demanding she returned the dress. 470 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: So strangely, the woman in question wasn't actually Lauren Mann, 471 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: who is at the center of the Bartels split. It 472 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: was actually a woman Jimmy knew from Geelong, where he 473 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: and Nadia used to live until he retired in twenty sixteen. 474 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: So it seems to me that he was having a 475 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: lot of affairs behind Nadia's back. Now it's safe to 476 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: say that this green dress incident really was the catalyst 477 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: for the split. Well, you'd have to say so, because 478 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that's confirmation that Jimmy is entertaining women whilst you're away. However, 479 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: it seems like Jimmy Bartel sort of pr team is 480 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: trying to push a different narrative, and that narrative is 481 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: that their beginning of the end was actually when Nadia 482 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: went to Coachella with fellow wags Rebecca Jard, Jesse Murphy. 483 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: And Kylie Brown. I have to say, I did see this. 484 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Trip plastered all over Instagram, and I did wonder whether 485 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: the husbands were a bit dirty on the fact they 486 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: didn't get to come on the troop. Well, do you 487 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: know what, I think they're dirty on the fact that 488 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: when they retire from football, no one really cares who 489 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: they are, but there's still a massive interest in their wives. 490 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Or what year did Jimmy Bartel actually retire, So he 491 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: retired in twenty sixteen, so obviously he might have been 492 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: experiencing a lot of lows that we do hear AFL 493 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: players experiencing, and maybe trying to do something to kind 494 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: of feel that adrenaline rush again. 495 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: I totally agree with what you're saying. 496 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: So, because one source told the media that Jimmy was 497 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: getting increasingly upset at what he saw as Nadia's total 498 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: lack of respect for money, and they argued over bills 499 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: that were coming pouring in from that trip to coach 500 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: so he apparently read her the Riot Act over her spending. 501 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: So the source said that she'd started her own business 502 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: and he tipped a lot of money into it. He 503 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: told her that she shouldn't be acting like a rock 504 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: star when she has a business to run. Jimmy came 505 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: from a pretty poor background and he's very careful with 506 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: his money. I found this very interesting that this was 507 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: the agenda that one news publication was trying to push, 508 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's pretty obvious that Jimmy Bartel 509 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: cheated on Nadia Bartel. I mean, we've got Lauren Man 510 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: who's basically come out and confirmed it. The pair are 511 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: now together. They're still together. However, the media are going 512 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: back on this whole wag status and are trying to 513 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: push that, Oh no, it was Nadia who's greedy and 514 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: just wants Jimmy's money and was acting like a rock 515 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: star and being spoilt, and it's like, no, this poor 516 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: woman was actually cheated on. Well, he's trying to throw mud, 517 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: isn't he to confuse people about what's actually gone on? Yeah, Well, 518 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: people want to believe that Jimmy is a great like 519 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: people follow his AFL career, Who's voted the twenty fourteen 520 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: sexiest player. Like, there's a lot of women that love 521 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Bartel. He did seem like a genuinely nice guy too. 522 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: He seemed quite softly spoken, and he seemed really committed 523 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: to Nadia. 524 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 525 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: I totally agree, And I think the worst thing out 526 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: of this whole ordeal is the fact that Nadia found 527 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: out about the affair through a text message. Sure, now 528 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: she hasn't actually specified what was in this text message, 529 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: but I can't even begin to imagine how heartbreaking it 530 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: would be to find out about an affair in this way. Yeah, 531 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: Nadia hasn't gone into too much detail about the affair, 532 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: which I can totally understand, but she has come out 533 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: to the media and said, although I'm heartbroken, I don't 534 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: want to comment specifically on what has been reported about 535 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Jim's trip to the UK, as I don't think that's 536 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: in anyone's interest. My single focus now is to protect, 537 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: care and provide for my two beautiful boys, and this 538 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: is a personal matter now. That was the first official 539 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: comment Nadia made about the wake up to the Herald's son. 540 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: And in terms of this reference to the UK, this 541 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: is about the fact that Jimmy went to London to 542 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: meet up with Lauren Man who had just moved over there. Now. 543 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: So if I've heard there were a few cryptic Instagram 544 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: posts going on from Lauren. Yeah, So Lauren shared a 545 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: cryptic post to her Instagram story less than a month 546 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: before Jimmy revealed he'd split with Nadia. So she took 547 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: a photo of her coffee at a cafe as you 548 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: do and wrote undecided but in love. So the telling 549 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: photo comes just days after Lauren made their relationship Instagram official. 550 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: So was Jimmy in this photo or was he tagged? 551 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: But he was not in the photo. It's a cryptic message. 552 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: Who else is she in love with? 553 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: And particularly you know, it's quite clear it's an affair 554 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: because it was posted a month before it was announced. 555 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: So you're not really going to be like start dating 556 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: someone once they've split. Can you imagine how much time 557 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: and effort goes into having an affair with someone who 558 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: literally lives in a different country. 559 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: Why would you put the effort in as well? 560 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: Because you normally think that someone's having an affair because 561 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of they know the person, they're easy to 562 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: meet up with. But yeah, it's not really easy to 563 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's quite clear that it was much more 564 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: than a sexual affair, if you're willing to travel to 565 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: the UK. Yeah, it's an emotional affair. So now being 566 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, what is the current relationship between 567 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Lauren and Jimmy. So they're officially together, they're now living together. 568 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: They did like the lockdown altogether. Lauren is kind of 569 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: like a stepmom figure to Nadia and Jimmy's children. 570 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: So she has relocated from London to Melbourne. I feel 571 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: like we've got a point. 572 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's back in Melbourne and she recently posted on 573 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: her Instagram story that it is the highlight of her day. 574 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Coming home to Aston and Henley. 575 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: I just can't even begin to imagine how Nadia would 576 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: feel hearing that. 577 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: Obviously she's very happy that the kids get along with Lauren, 578 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: but I would feel really funny about that. Yeah, it 579 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: would be horrible. 580 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: So post breakup, Nadia did speak to Stella magazine in 581 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: April twenty twenty, and she opened up that she was 582 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: struggling with her marriage breakdown and the cruel comments that 583 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: came from trolls as a result of it. So she said, 584 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: this is never what I thought would happen. Every day 585 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: is tough, and she explained how trolls would comment claiming 586 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: that Jimmy had upgraded with his new girlfriend, and she said, 587 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: being from Melbourne football is so big here. I was 588 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: used to the negative attention I got in my situation. 589 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I do put things on social media, so I've put 590 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: myself out there, but I was at the hardest point 591 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: in my life and then to have articles written that 592 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: weren't true, and to have hundreds of hate comments on 593 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Instagram and the continual pounding. 594 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: It was difficult. 595 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Just because you date or are married to a sportsperson, 596 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: people think. 597 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: You're fair game. 598 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want. If you look at 599 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: any other industry, do you critique their partner like this. 600 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: Thenardier really took these trolling comments in her stride and 601 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: she worked really hard to have this massive comeback. And 602 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: the most pivotal moment I'd say was the Brownlow Medal 603 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: when she was invited to host the event for Channel 604 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: nine and Jimmy Bartel wasn't even at the event, and 605 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: she had the most incredible revenge dress. On we talk 606 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: about Princess Diana's black revenge dress, but this dress was 607 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: something else. So for those who don't watch the Browndlay Medal, 608 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Nadia was hosting the Red Carpet Arrivals, which, let's be honest, 609 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: that's all everybody watches and tops about that. 610 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: No one actually cares about the actual I switch off 611 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: medals to count. It was just a show. 612 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: Also that she didn't need Jimmy to be invited there, 613 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: She got there on her own merits. 614 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: I loved it. It was such a great moment for her. 615 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: It was a big FU, wasn't it. 616 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Another FU was when she appeared on the All 617 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: New Monty in twenty nineteen, So she stripped with the 618 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: other celebrities on that show. And she's also done a 619 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of ambassador work. But I think the most momentous 620 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: thing that she has done is that she's continued with 621 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: her personal label Henny. So she did start the brand 622 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and as was touched upon, apparently Jimmy 623 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: some money into it. However, it has truly flourished in 624 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and in a time when a lot of 625 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: brands have actually crumbled with covid. So it's pretty incredible 626 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: what she has managed to do with her brand, and 627 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: it's actually been so successful that she closed her online 628 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: fashion store, The Connection, so she could focus entirely on Henny. 629 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: It's also been heavily reported on that Nadia still has 630 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: very firm friendships with other wives and girlfriends, and that 631 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: seems to have only gotten stronger. I feel like a 632 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of those women have really shown solidarity towards Nadia. 633 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: Oh definitely so. 634 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Beck Judd was actually quoted in the Stellar article saying, 635 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I think over time she's learned to block and delete 636 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: the trolls and focus her energy on the people who 637 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: matter in life. 638 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: She's resilient and does a great job of getting on 639 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: with it now. 640 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I absolutely love the relationship between Beck and Nadia. I 641 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: actually didn't know they owned a tanning company, spray oz together. 642 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah? 643 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: What about Nadia's love life? Is there anybody in the picture? 644 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: So speculation grew around Lockdown in September when Nadia was 645 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: spotted going for a jog with Melbourne personal trainer Nathan Brodie. 646 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: So they came out and said that they were just friends. However, 647 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: Nathan then shared a photo of Nadia sunbaking in a 648 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: bikini on his Instagram story with the caption weekend vibe. 649 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh I love this that she's getting back into the 650 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: dating scene with a hot personal trainer. 651 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very fitting. 652 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I have really loved seeing Nadia flourish in this post 653 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: wag life, and I can't wait to see what she 654 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: has in store for all of us next. Let's get 655 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: into the influencer wrap. And on Wednesday, Sky Weeley opened 656 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: up to her Instagram followers about the struggle she faces 657 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: engaging other influences for her new clothing brand, Good People Apparel, And, 658 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: as she said in a story, this was feisty Sky 659 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: coming through. She was very frustrated about an influencer who 660 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: had reached out to her friend collaboration and had worn 661 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: the clothes, but did not. 662 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: Tag Good People Apparel in the stories. 663 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: And she said that in this influencer world, there is 664 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: of course an expectation to tag. When you were sent 665 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: a gifted product, she said, even if it was just 666 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: a nunboxing of the items, she expected something. Yeah, especially 667 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: if you've asked for it. It's not like the brand 668 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: has just sent you the item. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't 669 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: Lauren Curtis was it. No, it wasn't Lauren. Well, we 670 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: actually don't know exactly who it was. She did explain 671 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: how costly it can be for small brands to send 672 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: out gifted items to influencers and not receive that exposure back. 673 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: I did find this. 674 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Whole rant really interesting because she is an influencer herself. 675 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a bit weird. 676 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I kind of was surprised that this was her take 677 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: on the situation, considering, as you said, she's in the 678 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: influencer industry, because I don't think you can as a brand, 679 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: you can send items out and expect everyone to post 680 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: about them. I feel like you can do your best 681 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: to pick people that may post about it, but at 682 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, a lot of influencers, you know, 683 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: their brand deals are their salaries, so you can't expect 684 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: them to do it for free. This is a different 685 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: scenario because the girl has asked. That's something I actually 686 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: completely agree with Sky in that sense, because this person 687 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: has reached out asking for the goods and basically saying 688 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: they want to do a collaboration where they get the 689 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: items in exchange for a post. So, yeah, I situate 690 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: I understand that but I'm just saying I think that 691 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: you can't expect microant influencers to work for free if 692 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: you're communicating with them by just sending them something. What, 693 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: that's completely different. The whole point is this girl contacted them. 694 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: It's a little bit embarrassing, isn't it though, if you're 695 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: that influencer and you've specifically asked and then you know. 696 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: Sky has said in this rand that this woman has 697 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: tagged everything else except her brand, and Sky did point 698 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: out that she completely understands what it's like to constantly 699 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: be receiving packages and it can get very overwhelming. However, 700 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: she did think in this case, as the woman had 701 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: reached out, she does have the due diligence of posting 702 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: something and tagging. 703 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I do agree with that. So who do 704 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: we think it is? 705 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Because I did see Sky share a photo of Chloe 706 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: Zepp and Artie wearing Good People apparel. 707 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: However they hadn't tagged Sky in the post. Well, that's 708 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: the thing. 709 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: There are two names that have been floating around the 710 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: first is Jessica Wilson, who is a mummy blogger. The second, 711 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: as you said, is Chloe Zep and Chloezep's not a 712 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: micro influencer. So no, look, Sky didn't say this person 713 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: is a micro influencer. She didn't. She didn't speak on 714 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: their following yet. I doubt Sky would be calling Chloe 715 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Zepp out because I feel like Chloe Zepp is kind 716 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: of in an influencer status above Sky, and she did 717 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: share the photo so well. The interesting thing is, obviously 718 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: there was a bit of speculation around the place that 719 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: got back to Sky, and she did clear up the 720 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: following day that it was not Jessica who she was 721 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: referring to. She said, She's been very appreciative of Jessica's 722 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: work and she has worked really hard to promote the brand. However, 723 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: she didn't acknowledge or confirmed that it wasn't chloe' zepp. 724 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 725 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: Do you think it was helpful to Sky to call 726 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: out an influencer regarding promotion because it kind of makes 727 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: it awkward now when she sends further products out. I 728 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: really don't think it was a clever move from a 729 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: business perspective because it just put a negative microscope over 730 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: the brand and the dealings. I don't think I mean 731 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: that being said, we are talking about it now, so 732 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: maybe someone who listens might go out and buy something 733 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: from good people Patty, and you know what, every influencer 734 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: that receives it's going to be like, oh shit, I 735 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: don't want her to call me out. 736 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: I posted it. 737 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: I did see Michael Finch post ten minutes after Sky's 738 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: rant went live and tagged you're thinking, oh shit, I've 739 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: probably been sitting on this content for days. I'm not 740 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: going to let anyone talk about me like I'm a 741 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: piece of garbage. He's trying to be our lad out 742 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: there in front of all the boys. 743 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 2: I don't want a lad. 744 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I want a gentleman, someone that's going to talk about 745 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: me a bit of respect. Love Island u K favorites 746 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: Maura Higgins and Chris Taylor have announced they've called it 747 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: quits after seven months of dating. In a statement, the 748 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: pair said they work better as friends. I was really 749 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: upset by this news because I was really rooting for them. 750 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: They seemed so good together. 751 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Chris and Mara met on 752 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: Love Island, but they never actually hooked up on the show. 753 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: They were purely friends because she was coupled up well. 754 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: She left the show with curtisckad Yeah, that dickhead. And 755 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: then I feel like they had this friendship while she 756 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: was dating Curtis, and then must have really realized that 757 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 1: they did like each other. So last November, the pair 758 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: excitedly told fans that they were more than friends whilst 759 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: holidaying in Dubai. I love that they're holidaying in Dubai 760 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: and November during a pandemic. Well. In a statement Maura 761 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: shared to a Insta story this week, she said, there 762 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: is no wrongdoing on either side. We still love, care 763 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: and respect each other deeply. From the minute we met 764 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: each other, we've been close friends and that will never change. 765 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: There is no regret. Life is about taking chances. We 766 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: wanted to make this work, but have we work better 767 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: at being friends? Just a typical break up announcement that 768 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: they're going to say friends? Yeah, can you be friends 769 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: after this situation? Yeah? Do you guys think that that's 770 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: genuine and they are going to be friends? 771 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: I feel like. 772 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: I don't know reading between the lines, I think Maura 773 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: has been the one to end things because Chris always 774 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: seemed a bit. 775 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: In awe of her. 776 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe he was, Oh, I think he's 777 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: very sweet, but he probably felt like he was batting 778 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: with more and I think that it's Moura who's probably thought, gosh, 779 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: I really liked your personality. 780 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: But maybe we're not more than that. Well, do you 781 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 2: know what. 782 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Obviously everyone's really upset in the UK about this, and 783 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: The Mirror got in a relationship expert to talk about 784 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: why this relationship was doomed from the beginning, and they've 785 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: given it a few reasons. They've said, one, this was 786 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: a lockdown relationship and so clearly now everything's starting to 787 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: open up again they've broken it off. Well, I also 788 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: feel like, not necessarily that everything's opening up again, but 789 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: perhaps they were stuck in this small apartment. Yeah, they've 790 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: got on each other's nerves. They haven't been going out 791 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: doing nice things of each other. And they also said 792 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: the fact that they met on Love Island, then there 793 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: was no spark. They said that's often a telltale sign 794 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: that a relationship is not going to work. Well, I've 795 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: always thought with these types of relationships is there's obviously 796 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: Maua is going to get more attention if she couples 797 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: up with someone that's from Love Island. They become a 798 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: bit more of a power couple. We've very much seen 799 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: that with Molly May and Tommy Fury. So do you 800 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: think it was a little bit of a PR stunt. Well, 801 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a PR stunt at all. 802 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: Morea's thirty. She probably is looking to settle down with someone, 803 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: but hear me out, So they decided to hook up 804 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: for the six months that they're in lockdown and no 805 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: one can really see them out. They could literally just 806 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: post pretend photos of themselves together. 807 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: They get a lot of remain relevant. 808 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's an interesting theory, but 809 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think it's true. No, I don't think 810 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: it is. I just thought it was interesting. They did 811 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: produce a lot of funny reels and tiktoks together. 812 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: We'll remember those. 813 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Well. I think that's all we've got time for today. 814 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for listening to the podcast. 815 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed today's show, can you please show 816 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: us where you're listening from, Tag us on Instagram at 817 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: Outspoken Underscore the Underscored Podcast, or join us in our 818 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: Facebook community, which is Outspoken the Podcast Community. 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