1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Look, you'd have to be living under a rock if 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: you didn't realize that we're going to an election in 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: August this year. It's definitely, it's definitely something we're all 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: talking about. And the Council of the Aging here in 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, they've released a suite of recommendations for 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government to improve well being and social 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: justice outcomes for senior citizens. Now there are thirty recommendations 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: covering six key areas to guide whoever forms government after 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: the election in August. And the Council of the Aging 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: nt CEO Sue Sera joins me in the studio. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Good morning Sue, Good morning Katie and all your listeners. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: You have to be living under a real big rock 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: to election, hey. 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: A mountain that this is election mode. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: Election, It truly is. It's election mode. 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: And and you know there are some key areas for 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Kota that you that you really have prioritized and that 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: you're hoping the next government is going to address. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Six of them as I understand it, What are they? 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: There are age care and we know that's a federal responsibility. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: But however, we would like whoever is the next Chief 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: Minister and the Health Minister. He help to lobby long 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and hard and represent Territorians so that the federal government 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: doesn't reneg on any of their responsibilities. Because at the moment, 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: out of our health budget, there's at least I think 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: eighty five or even ninety people in RDH and Palmerston 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: who should be in either a dementia facility or in 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: an age care facility. Work that out at nearly two 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a day out of our health budget. So 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: you know, the federal government just has to step up 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: and either build They have to build more public age 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: care places and fund it properly. Because the government did 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: put out own expressions of interest to build a dementia village. 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: However none of the providers put it up because they 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: get paid sixty one dollars a day to look after 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: a patient. Now, really with a high care patient, it's 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: just not good enough. And with the age care revision 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: we're put in, if anybody would like to see it, 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: are really long All CODE is around Australia along with 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: Code Australia has put in an age care recommendation to 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: the new Age Care Act. 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: It is such an important issue making sure that we 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: do have that care for seniors and that they do 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: have the appropriate facility and care that's required. It's like 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: this is something that comes up like quite often. 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: So it does. Unfortunately it comes up, and especially the 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: next one, obviously, as you can see, is housing. The 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: federal government wants people to age in their house. Well, 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: if you haven't got a house, where do you end up? 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Hospital or in the street. With quite a few elderly 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: ladies come to see us, they haven't. They're stuck in 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: private accommodation at six hundred dollars a week and their 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: pension is a thousand fortnite. They might get some relief 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: from the rental assistance scheme from the federal government, that 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: just doesn't cover it, so really, and they've got nowhere 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: to go. 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: So, I mean, they are some pretty big key areas. 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: What look, what kind of feedback are you receiving from 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: both sides of the fence at this point, for one 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: of a better word, you know, from the COLP and 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: the ALP, who are the two major parties in the territory. 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: I haven't had any actual response as yet, but I 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: must admit only sent it out. I think I sent 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: this out to all the politicians on Friday, but I'd 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: like to see we'd like to see obviously an answer 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: to it, especially as you can see to the cost 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: of living, which is another big area again as I mentioned, 68 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: and for seniors as an example, with the Seniors Card, 69 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: the ant Seniors card that we deliver that program, they 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: might catch fifty five dollars of their motor vehicle license 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: hasn't changed I think for about ten years. 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the cost of living is gone about astronomy. 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: So we'd like to see that at least go up 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: to one hundred rebate. And also i'd like to see 75 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: the Seniors Recognition Scheme Card either indexed to CPI or 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: another increase of at least one hundred dollars. And another 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: one in there that we're really quite obviously very strong 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: on is a health and wellbeing. If you're mentally stable 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: and you're and you're healthy as well, and especially you 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: can move and remain independent for as long as you 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: want to. So one of those is okay, all our 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: children get a sports voucher, why can't our seniors get 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: a sports voucher to help them go to fitness places 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: or to help them even culturally. So we've put that 85 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: recommendation on health and wellbeing? Why can't they get a 86 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: sixty to one hundred dollars sports voucher to go, as 87 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: I said, to use for things like either tie, cheer, 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: yoga all the things there, or walking, netbook all those ones. 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: You know. 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Really, as I said, independence relies on being able to move. 91 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: So that's that's just one of the little recommendations there. 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: The other one obviously a big issue with safety. And really, 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: all those children running around running a mark, why aren't 94 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: they in school? 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: I think answering themselves that question. 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Exactly, why should their parents also maybe get the sports voucher? 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: Stop that. I'm sure they'd go, oh, you better go 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: to school now because I can't get one hundred dollars 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: for your footy boots, you know, something like that. Let's 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: let's think outside the box and be a bit more strategic. 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: So do they love the most sport? 102 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Well, we all love our sports, do you know me? 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: There's no but so you know, like that the issue 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: of safety for our seniors at the moment, how concerning 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: is it Has it gotten any better since the last 106 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: time we spoke. 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: No, it's actually gotten worse. Really, Yeah, they're more they're 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: still frightened to go out, and especially as I said, 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs and even up here, they're just they're 110 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: just frightened. But she and that's where the isolation occurs. 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: When they have to stay home and they're too frightened 112 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: and they're using online shopping. Where do they mingle? Who 113 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: do they talk to? 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Do you have a coffee? 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: It leads to greater depression, which obviously affects the mental health. 116 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: So it all goes around in a circle, which is 117 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: really We. 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: Took a phone call last week from a lady who's 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: lived in the Northern Territory for a long time. I 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: think she said fifty years, or maybe it was forty, 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: but either way, an awful long time. And she had 122 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: said that her daughter in law actually had to help 123 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: a senior Territorian who was having I believe, had her 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: bag snatched. 125 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean, are you. 126 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Being contacted about incidents like this or is something like 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: that uncommon for you to hear? 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: No, it's not uncommon in any shape or form, unfortunately. 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: And I, like Leanne Little said, when we see this happening, 130 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: when we see people fighting, that, why don't we intervene? 131 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: If I'd intervening out the front of our place, and 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I've had my staff punched in the face. I've had 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: a two Lisa Bundy bottle lifted over my head. Luckily 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: I can still move quite quickly because it missed me. 135 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: So why really, overall, why would we want to intervene 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: in things like that. We'd intervene obviously if there's like 137 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: a senior like myself and things like that, but even then, 138 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: if somebody's got a machete or a weapon, you know, 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: I'd like to live a little bit longer to enjoy 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: my grandchildren, as everybody would. So saying that we should 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: intervene in things like that, Unfortunately, when there's that sort 142 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: of violence happening, it's at a risk to the safety 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: and well being of a whole lot of other people. 144 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think it might be talking about a story 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: that I'd spoken about on ere yesterday there and it 146 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: was also on so it was on the NT News. 147 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: I think it was actually Senator Kerrianne Little from South 148 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Australia and she was saying after a video, yeah, an 149 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Irang a woman who had said that you know that 150 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: this violence that we're seeing on social media and that 151 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing, that it's sort of becoming all too common. 152 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: But I think that that's the case right across the 153 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Northern Territory right now. You know, it's horrendous some of 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: what is going on Terranus. 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: And I've got one of my besties, Alice, been there 156 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: fifty years, leaving at the end of the year. But 157 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: her husband, her son was born in Alice. He's taking 158 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: his family, his wife was born in Alice and their 159 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: children because they just don't go out anywhere. And especially 160 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: my friend whose husband has Parkinson's. He's a walking target. 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: So he goes shopping at six seven in the morning 162 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: when everybody's still asleep. He won't go out after that. 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: So what sort of life again do people like that? 164 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: If they're not, as I said, totally mobile, they can't 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: defend themselves. But hopefully with the review of the Youth 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: Justice Act, but what I'm hearing out there is very cynical. 167 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of faith in either party unfortunately 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: to really fix this. It's gone on too long, too late. 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: The other area of concern is obviously which we've waited 170 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: a long time for, is voluntary Sister Day. We haven't 171 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: had a you know, I'm on the VAD panel which 172 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: I can't talk about too much. That's up to the 173 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: two chairs. But we haven't had a commitment from the 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: COLP government at all. So is this reportant all this 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: work that's being done, or a Territorian's going to have 176 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: to wait another election cycle. We want a commitment from 177 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: both parties. Really, this is important to senior not just 178 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: senior Territorians, but to all territorians. Don't deny me in 179 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: my choice. 180 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Well, sou Shirah, it is always good to catch up 181 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: with you. You don't mince your words, that's for sure. 182 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: And I think that you know both the governments, well 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: both the government and the opposition, I should say, really 184 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: do need to come out. They need to be quite 185 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: clear on, you know, their commitments for our senior territorians. 186 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: I think it's very important that they do. 187 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: That wisdom, that knowledge, and especially with the self funded 188 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: retirees who buy coffee, they go shopping, or all our 189 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: seniors as well. I mean, we don't we can't afford 190 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: to have our people, our seniors, leaving any regional area 191 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: at all. We need them. The volunteering they do, the 192 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: childcare they do help you know that there are a 193 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: treasure there are living treasures, so we just can't afford 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: to lose them. 195 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Sue Shier, we will talk to you again very soon. 196 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Thanks so much for coming in 197 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: this morning pleasure Katie. 198 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: Thank you