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Speaker 1: Podcasting now. Obviously, tomorrow is arguably the most important election

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Speaker 1: globally this century. I'm sure everyone's across the two old

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Speaker 1: men that are yelling at each other on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the Pacific. We're obviously talking about what's gone

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Speaker 1: down in the US Trump and Biden. Tomorrow America will

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Speaker 1: find out who is their new president, which is buddy

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Speaker 1: exciting stuff. You and I don't know enough about this

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Speaker 1: to talk about it for long, though, particularly you woulds

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Speaker 1: and actually, before we speak to our next guest, I

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Speaker 1: just want to confirm you're not going to ask any

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Speaker 1: silly questions because this is an important subject matter which

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Speaker 1: means a lot to people.

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Speaker 2: No silly questions, definitely, no silly questions.

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Speaker 1: Serious, No.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I've spent at least five to seven minutes preparing

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Speaker 2: for this. I know you and I've got seven questions

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Speaker 2: and none.

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Speaker 1: Don't derail this for me.

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Speaker 3: This means a lot.

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Speaker 1: So we've got nine news political correspondent in Charles Crusier,

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Speaker 1: who Charles Croucher, I should say, sorry, who joins on

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Speaker 1: the phone right now? Can I Charles?

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Speaker 4: I've been called so much worse.

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Speaker 2: Wait, good, good, First question, who's gonna win?

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Speaker 4: Well? Runs a bit snake bitten from four years ago

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Speaker 4: prediction right, so the easy way. But let's say Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden win. He's the most likely to win, but he's

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Speaker 4: also running as someone who just pulled off an upset

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Speaker 4: or two in his time. And I think all those

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Speaker 4: that support Dolald Trump expect another one's coming to mine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, naturally everyone's a bit snake bitten, given that

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Speaker 1: the T shirts were printed for Hillary's win last time.

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Speaker 1: But Charles, I'd love to talk to you a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about what this means for climate change. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it means we could go into the rest of this

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Speaker 1: century with the biggest power on Earth without a climate

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Speaker 1: change policy, someone who doesn't believe in that. And not

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Speaker 1: to mention the fact that he's installed another justice at

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court recently who effectively said that they don't

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Speaker 1: believe in abortions.

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Speaker 4: The President's been pretty subscertful when it comes to the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court, and so that might be his lasting legacy,

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Speaker 4: having three justices of Theupreme Court.

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, Charles, have you been to I see

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Speaker 2: a lot of the footage from the rallies from Joey

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Speaker 2: Boy and Donnie have you been to one of those rallies.

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Speaker 4: I have. I've been to rally for both of them experiences.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A question for you though. The energy in that

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Speaker 2: crowd seems pretty electric at all times. Are they like,

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Speaker 2: are you getting fed during the rally or is it

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Speaker 2: sort of like a b YO sort of yourself out

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Speaker 2: sort of arrangement.

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Speaker 4: There are food available, but is the byo arrangement Many

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Speaker 4: of them might not four hours.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people want to know.

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Speaker 1: That wants to know about that. I will tell you

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Speaker 1: something interesting about the rallies To answer the question, Charles,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you something using about the rallies, though,

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Speaker 1: is I saw that Stanford University had predicted that the

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Speaker 1: amount of people Trump had killed because of his rallies

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Speaker 1: through secondary infections or whatever it is, is going to

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Speaker 1: be upwards of tens of thousands of people. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: because he's spreading, because he's basically saying that it, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it, It's going to be fine. Who cares?

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Speaker 1: And all these obviously loyal Trump supporters are rocking up.

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Speaker 1: What would be interesting is if Trump lost the election

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Speaker 1: by the amount of people he killed through having his rallies. Wow,

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Speaker 1: which yeah, which is a genuine chance.

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Speaker 2: The irony is extraordinary, hundred percent, Charles. I know a

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Speaker 2: big issue you as well over in the US is

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Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't vote. It you don't

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Speaker 2: have to vote for the election. Do you think though

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Speaker 2: the celebs getting naked and posting photos of themselves and

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Speaker 2: that's worked.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think a lot of people will vote this

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Speaker 4: time around. I'm not sure that's the reason why. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: imagine being over there. You know, for all you've seen

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Speaker 4: the last four years, both for the president and against

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Speaker 4: the president, If that doesn't inspire you to vote one

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Speaker 4: way or the other, nothing is really going to inspire

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Speaker 4: people to vote. But there has just been so much people,

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Speaker 4: so much change, so much at stake this time around,

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Speaker 4: and already we've seen it. A ninety five million votes

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Speaker 4: that shows you how busy, how popular the turnout has been.

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Speaker 4: You know, the smart people over there are saying could

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Speaker 4: will far outstrip even the Obama elections that will be

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Speaker 4: both sides. It shows also what a lightning ro of

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Speaker 4: the president has been these last four years. Either people

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Speaker 4: love him or they hate him, and they're very few

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Speaker 4: in the middle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's pretty interesting, GiB Woods. What you recond We

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Speaker 1: keep Charles on.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 4: It would be.

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Speaker 2: I've got a few questions about how if Trumpet decides

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to lose, there may be two presidents,

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Speaker 2: but Charles dun'tanswer. Now, let's talk about it more up

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Speaker 2: next podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Now, the US election is tomorrow. We're just talking about

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Speaker 1: the fact that this could be arguably more important than

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Speaker 1: any election we experience in the next little while Australia

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Speaker 1: and just particularly in terms of things like climate change,

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Speaker 1: dealing with other countries internationally, particularly COVID nineteen. You've currently

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Speaker 1: got a guy that doesn't actually believe that it's an issue.

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Speaker 1: Who's in charge, and more importantly, what's been fascinating about

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Speaker 1: him leading up for this election is obviously these rallies

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Speaker 1: that he's been running. We've just had tens of thousands

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Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. But he is pulling out all the stops.

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Speaker 1: Here's him dancing to YMCA.

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't mind that that was a good performance.

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Speaker 3: Trump is he almost got me there, He almost got

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Speaker 3: me there. You need to range a little bit here

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Speaker 3: with your questions are.

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Speaker 1: Outrages at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I've actually got some good months.

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Speaker 1: We've got Charles Croucher who joints right now. He's Channel

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Speaker 1: nine's political correspondent, and Charles, youacking these rallies are actually

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Speaker 1: helping Trump at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure that a rally on the

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Speaker 4: eve of an election, given what's happened in the last

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Speaker 4: four months, but alone the last four years is going

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Speaker 4: to be what pushes someone over the edge. But the

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Speaker 4: optics to look positive for him. He's doing his dancing.

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Speaker 4: He seem to be having where he has his best time,

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Speaker 4: you know, behind the front of the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Charles, I do one other question. You were talking before

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Speaker 2: about getting to the finish line or Trump's going to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, energetic right until the end. Now you have

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Speaker 2: to excuse my ignorance here on the whole political matter,

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Speaker 2: but is it true that at some point he has

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Speaker 2: to concede the loss, and if he doesn't, this thing

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Speaker 4: It's one of the problems in the US. They don't

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Speaker 4: have an electoral commission like we do, so each state

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Speaker 4: and sometimes each county count their own votes, and all

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Speaker 4: throughout history, the elections only finish when the loser concedes. Now,

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Speaker 4: the problem is, can any of us imagine Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: conceding if there's still a doubt or if there's still

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Speaker 4: a fragment of a chance. Which is okay, because the

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Speaker 4: electoral College eventually get together in a month's time and

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Speaker 4: that's when they and ounce who their president is, and

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Speaker 4: who is usually then the president Donald Trump still as

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Speaker 4: a conceded then you have two presidents and you have

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Speaker 4: real problems. He can't hijack the election, he can't declare

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Speaker 4: himself the winner. But we also haven't seen a situation

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Speaker 4: system like that. Now, you know, we're going to learn

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Speaker 4: and potentially next two months.

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Speaker 1: The hell, it's absolutely fascinating that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so again, excuse me, but are we talking civil

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Speaker 2: war areas?

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Speaker 4: There? Though?

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't concede, and you're saying there's two presidents

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Speaker 2: in the nation sort of split, like am I am?

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Speaker 2: I being a bit ridiculous, Charles.

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Speaker 4: There is a great divide in America at the moment,

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Speaker 4: and they divide it on the lines of the present.

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Speaker 4: This is no longer policy grounds or old policy grounds.

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Speaker 4: The real blessing they have is that we don't have

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Speaker 4: clearly defined blue states and red states. It's still quite

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Speaker 4: a cohesive society because if there were, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: shocked at shooting at each other. But they're not at

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Speaker 4: which is the blessing. I don't think we're there yet.

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Speaker 4: I don't need to worry quite about that. But you

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Speaker 4: can see the concern on the streets of America by

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Speaker 4: all the shops that are being brought up in Washington, right,

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Speaker 4: what comes next?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, blood, it's fascinating, fascinating Charles. Yeah, you so interesting

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Speaker 1: to hear man. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I I was going to say good luck

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow, which is kind of weirdly what I feel

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Speaker 1: about the whole thing, Like I just hope there's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everyone's going to take a big, deep

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Speaker 4: breath because if we do get a mystery or some confusion,

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Speaker 4: and China and what they might try to do to

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Speaker 4: take advantage of That's for a clear cut, a clear

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for joining us. Chis fascinating stuff there, and yeah, mate,

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Speaker 1: look forward to hearing all about it tomorrow. See what

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