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Speaker 4: Hello guys, It's the pick Up with Britt Harkley and
Speaker 4: Laura Burn. Happy first day back to work everyone, you
Speaker 4: poor things?
Speaker 2: Is it a happy day?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but we have a very special show
Speaker 4: because this is our very first ever cross continental or
Speaker 4: cross continent record for the pickup. We do it quite
Speaker 4: a bit on our on our podcast Life on cart
Speaker 4: But Britt is currently not here.
Speaker 3: No I I heard the news about the Pope, so
Speaker 3: they flew me to Italy to be the correspondent on
Speaker 3: the ground. I have a strong connection to the Pope,
Speaker 3: so I have come to Italy. No I happened to
Speaker 3: be in Italy when the Pope passed away. I did
Speaker 3: not get flown here for that, but what a crazy time.
Speaker 3: So my fiance Ben lives in Italy. He plays for
Speaker 3: a football team over here, and I was being the
Speaker 3: dedicated fiance and it was going to be my first
Speaker 3: game that I got to watch of his team.
Speaker 2: He plays for a team called Genoa.
Speaker 3: And it was supposed to be yesterday and we're all
Speaker 3: gearing up for the game, and then very sadly, the
Speaker 3: Pope passed away and everything stopped. Everything shut down, the
Speaker 3: football matches were canceled, everything was closing, the streets went
Speaker 3: into morning. It's been a really wild time.
Speaker 4: I think you were our opportunistic correspondent, but at least
Speaker 4: we had We actually do have someone on the ground,
Speaker 4: which is more than what most radio shows can say.
Speaker 4: And I know that there's one person in the studio
Speaker 4: here with me, Producer Grace, who has been There's no
Speaker 4: one in Australia who follows pope stories like you do.
Speaker 2: Grace. Grace is dialed.
Speaker 5: In weirdly fascinated by the whole thing, Like the whole
Speaker 5: idea that the country goes into mourning for nine days
Speaker 5: and then there's a conclave and his body gets lie
Speaker 5: in state and paraded around.
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing, it really.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a very very sad for a lot
Speaker 4: of people. I understand that as well, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I think I don't want to say that.
Speaker 4: Maybe people were expecting that it was gonna happen because
Speaker 4: he was so unwell for so long, he had double pneumonia.
Speaker 2: He lasted longer than a lot of people thought he
Speaker 2: was going to.
Speaker 3: He was seen the day before he passed away. He
Speaker 3: was outside greeting people and he was blessing people. And
Speaker 3: I think that's why it was such a shock, because
Speaker 3: people thought, oh, he must be feeling better.
Speaker 2: But in terms of the streets in Italy.
Speaker 3: They have his like all of you know when you
Speaker 3: can project images onto walls and things like.
Speaker 2: That, so his images of his face everywhere.
Speaker 3: They have his face everywhere. And it's a pretty amazing time,
Speaker 3: a potentially amazing time because we could see the first
Speaker 3: Asian or Black pope, which will be so historical.
Speaker 4: There's rules around it, isn't there, Like where do they
Speaker 4: have to be within? Like can anyone become a pope
Speaker 4: or they have to be with me in ministry?
Speaker 5: Ethnically, any Catholic man can become the pope, but it's
Speaker 5: usually between like one hundred and fifty cardinals or something
Speaker 5: that are under eighty years old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense to have him under eighty. There
Speaker 4: has to be a caveat, doesn't there? Yes, we are
Speaker 4: talking hall passes, and that is because it is no
Speaker 4: secret on this show or anywhere in fact that for
Speaker 4: years I have been saying that Jason Momoa was my
Speaker 4: hall pass.
Speaker 3: Well, hang on, no, you've been saying Jason Momo fair
Speaker 3: since the day I met you six seven years ago.
Speaker 3: Jason Momo was your hall pass until about twelve months ago.
Speaker 3: It took a turn, yeah, and you decided you didn't
Speaker 3: like him anymore.
Speaker 4: I've always referred to him as a man that you
Speaker 4: could climb, and I just like, he's so far out
Speaker 4: of the remit of any person I've ever dated. Like
Speaker 4: he's not my quote unquote type. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: he doesn't look anything like my husband, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: kick him out of a bed, But there's I just
Speaker 4: find him fascinating. I just like I think ever since
Speaker 4: the Game of Thrones that he was in what was
Speaker 4: he in?
Speaker 2: There was a well, he was in Baywatch.
Speaker 4: No, he was in that series where it was like
Speaker 4: this big warlord thing. I think it was Thrones the
Speaker 4: first season. Anyway, ever since then, I was like, oh, hello,
Speaker 4: well turns out he's in town. That's what we're talking about, guys.
Speaker 4: So Jason Momoa. He's currently the face of Newie ice Cream,
Speaker 4: which I'm in great promotion for new I'd love to
Speaker 4: know how much money they have to have him as
Speaker 4: the number one ambassador.
Speaker 2: But have a listen to this.
Speaker 4: He's currently in Queensland at the Crumban Wildlife Sanctuary.
Speaker 6: Hello everyone, I'm Jason Momore and I'm at the Curumban
Speaker 6: Wildlife Hospital. Did you know that koalas are now endangered?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: Newie ice Cream are huge supporters of koala conservation and
Speaker 6: so they flew me down here so they can meet
Speaker 6: with amazing teams that are helping out with our choalers,
Speaker 6: so we can have him for the next generation. Let's
Speaker 6: go and check it out.
Speaker 4: So I thought I was off him, but now I'm
Speaker 4: back on him because he's now he's here to save
Speaker 4: the koalas.
Speaker 2: Good for Jason.
Speaker 3: Oh that there is something about looking at that man
Speaker 3: mountain holding that little koala and you're like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you're backing my good books.
Speaker 4: My question to you, though, it is Britt is like,
Speaker 4: what are the rules around hall passes? Not because I
Speaker 4: need to know them for myself. I think we're okay.
Speaker 4: I don't think that my husband has anything to worryorry about.
Speaker 2: But I wonder.
Speaker 4: Is a hall pass, like if you joke about a
Speaker 4: hall pass, Like, is it actually a real thing. Do
Speaker 4: people have hall passes in their relationships that you would
Speaker 4: allow your person to step outside like the monogamy of
Speaker 4: your relationship to hook up with a celebrity or is
Speaker 4: it only that we're okay with having hall passes because
Speaker 4: they are completely unattainable.
Speaker 3: Generally speaking, it's because you know that your partner is
Speaker 3: never going to have the opportunity to do that, Like
Speaker 3: it's so fantastical and so far away that you're like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: like if have that hole, if you ever have the
Speaker 3: chance to look up go for gold. I think if
Speaker 3: you were ever presented with the opportunity where your partner
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Sydney Sweeney has hit me up and
Speaker 3: has invited me to go to her house tonight, I
Speaker 3: don't think many people would be actually letting them their partner.
Speaker 3: But I think it's down to your relationship, Like plenty
Speaker 3: of people would be okay with that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I think the thing is with a hall pass, it's
Speaker 4: okay to like put out a hall pass that's a
Speaker 4: ridiculously unattainable celebrit But I think with social media and Instagram,
Speaker 4: the lines are being blurred these days, like there's like
Speaker 4: really quite you know, quite social media famous people who
Speaker 4: someone might have as their hall pass.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is like they live in the
Speaker 2: same suburb.
Speaker 4: You might see them down at the beach, Like they're
Speaker 4: not as unattainable as what you might think they are.
Speaker 4: And I guess like our perspective on what defines a
Speaker 4: celebrity or someone with like social media presence or whatever
Speaker 4: has shifted. So I think for me, I'm okay with
Speaker 4: my husband having a hall pass that is someone who's
Speaker 4: super super famous, like Hollywood famous. But Matt's always joked
Speaker 4: that his hall pass is Sandra Sully and that feels
Speaker 4: too closed to.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, no, especially because we come on and speak
Speaker 3: to him in the jungle, Like, isn't Sandra Sally the
Speaker 3: one that comes and checks in and reads the news
Speaker 3: when you're in the arm of celebrity jungle?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I wish he was joking, but I actually
Speaker 4: don't think he is. I really do think Sandra Sally
Speaker 4: is my husband's hall pass.
Speaker 2: She's a babe. I get it. She's an absolute babe.
Speaker 2: But they've together. Yeah, that's weird. You've got to have rules.
Speaker 3: I am for years. I'm not going to say who
Speaker 3: it was. I had this one hall pass that was
Speaker 3: like Hollywood. He was pretty big, is pretty big, and
Speaker 3: I came across him on Raya, the dating app, so
Speaker 3: I was single at the time, saw him. Still thought
Speaker 3: it was like he was out of my league, but
Speaker 3: it made me realize that he was single. So I
Speaker 3: went to Instagram a couple of fireflames, slid into the dms,
Speaker 3: and we got talking and we ended up like becoming
Speaker 3: friends where.
Speaker 4: You had to just give a clue of what he
Speaker 4: was off at least, like you don't have to say
Speaker 4: who he is.
Speaker 2: No, I'm absolutely.
Speaker 1: Not No, I'm absolutely not okay, Sandra Sally.
Speaker 4: I'm just giving you Sandra Sally okay.
Speaker 3: But my point was this was like at the end
Speaker 3: of COVID and he actually said, Hey, I'm filming something
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, like like come hang out, we'll have
Speaker 3: a date kind of thing. And I couldn't bloody get there.
Speaker 3: I was so excited. I was like, yes, I am there,
Speaker 3: and then I couldn't get a flight. I could not
Speaker 3: get the flight out of country, and I'm like, you
Speaker 3: are kidding me.
Speaker 2: This is the opportunity to.
Speaker 1: Tick off a whole path, something that you never think.
Speaker 2: Is even in reach, and I couldn't do it. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure out who it is and I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what ext.
Speaker 3: So I had this really beautiful conversation on the weekend
Speaker 3: with my nan. And I don't get to see my
Speaker 3: nan often. She lives in Portant Quarry. She's eighty seven.
Speaker 3: She is on her own. She's been on her own
Speaker 3: for many, many years, and she lives on her own
Speaker 3: in a village like assisted living, but not you know,
Speaker 3: it's not assisted. It's completely independent, like you live alone
Speaker 3: in a house, but the house is amongst other houses.
Speaker 1: It's just like a suburb.
Speaker 2: So it's a.
Speaker 3: Retirement village but you're in your own house. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a real community there. It's really nice. Got you.
Speaker 3: But I had this conversation with her. We were up
Speaker 3: there for my mum's birthday. And makes me upside to
Speaker 3: think about actually now that i'm thinking about it, but
Speaker 3: maybe there's a message in this for you guys. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're with your grandparents, or you have someone in
Speaker 3: your life. I was asking her what is left on
Speaker 3: her bucket lit and not that she's dying or anything,
Speaker 3: but she'll often bring it up, like, hey, what do
Speaker 3: you want of mind before I'm going to cark it
Speaker 3: one day?
Speaker 2: Like you know what joy do you want?
Speaker 3: And I said, heynn, what's your what's on your bucket list?
Speaker 3: Like I want to do something for you like you
Speaker 3: tell me and I will tick it off for you.
Speaker 3: I will make whatever you want happen. And I was
Speaker 3: prepared for anything, right, like you know that's.
Speaker 2: A fair balloon anything, take me to Morocco.
Speaker 3: Now. Min Nan has raised four kids on her own
Speaker 3: since she was twenty.
Speaker 2: She has one arm.
Speaker 3: She lost one arm to polio when she was twenty,
Speaker 3: and she has just not had an easy life. She
Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of family around. She was a teacher,
Speaker 3: she is. She've only retired a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: She worked a really long time and.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was expecting.
Speaker 3: But she thought about it for a second and she said,
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't have a bucket list, And
Speaker 3: I said, well, let's make one. She thought about it again.
Speaker 3: She said, there is nothing that I would want to
Speaker 3: do that I haven't already done, or that I'm not
Speaker 3: doing right now.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: She looked around.
Speaker 3: It was my mum's birth, so all the nieces and
Speaker 3: nephews were there, like her great grandchildren, her children were there,
Speaker 3: and we were there, so normal grandchildren, so every layer
Speaker 3: she had, and she said, I've just done everything I
Speaker 3: want to do, and everything that I want to do
Speaker 3: left in life I can do right here, right now.
Speaker 3: And it was this moment where I was like, wow, like,
Speaker 3: you have had it so hard, You've had nothing given
Speaker 3: to you, you have faced so many challenges, and still
Speaker 3: to this day you're not complaining and you are finding
Speaker 3: such happiness in the little things. And it really made
Speaker 3: me just think, maybe we just set these expectations so
Speaker 3: high for ourselves and we're finding all these things for
Speaker 3: like adrenaline, like we almost need to make ourselves feel
Speaker 3: something instead of thinking of all these really little moments
Speaker 3: that are the important moments in there every day.
Speaker 4: I think there's something really beautiful in that around perspective, right, Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're definitely we definitely subscribe to the hustle
Speaker 4: culture or like what's the next thing the next success,
Speaker 4: the next thing you're going to tick off. I mean,
Speaker 4: I also think we're just the generation of lists in general.
Speaker 4: But I think there's something beautiful in perspective of getting
Speaker 4: to that age and being able to feel as though
Speaker 4: all the.
Speaker 2: Things that you want in your life you already have.
Speaker 4: What a beautiful place to be, rather than getting to
Speaker 4: eighty seven and thinking I have so many things that
Speaker 4: I want to do and haven't done and will never do,
Speaker 4: like what you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the other thing.
Speaker 3: That she said was, and this is what makes me upset.
Speaker 3: I guess that maybe life just passes us by. But
Speaker 3: she said, thanks for asking me that. She's like, no
Speaker 3: one will pray. She's like, no one really talks to
Speaker 3: me about life anymore, and not.
Speaker 2: Like in a what's coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, it's just sometimes you think, like people
Speaker 3: in your life have lived a whole life. She's eighty seven,
Speaker 3: she's lived through pandemics, she's lived through alls, she has
Speaker 3: one arm, she's you know, she's done so much. She's
Speaker 3: survived polio, and there must be so much to talk about.
Speaker 3: But sometimes I think you're a little forgotten. And I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that my family forgets so absolutely not. They're
Speaker 3: all so close. But it was just this moment where
Speaker 3: she's like, yeah, think you know, like people don't ask
Speaker 3: me about those things or reflections on my life or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was like.
Speaker 3: One of the really important pivotal moments where I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to talk about this and I
Speaker 3: want to remind people that if you have those people
Speaker 3: in your life to have those conversations and find out
Speaker 3: about you know, the most interesting people in the world
Speaker 3: are people that have lived.
Speaker 4: What did it do for you though, in terms of
Speaker 4: perspective when you think, like all the things that you
Speaker 4: want to do, or like the goals that you have
Speaker 4: and everything else, did it change anything about how you
Speaker 4: see the priorities in your life?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent?
Speaker 3: It definitely makes me think My priorities right now have
Speaker 3: been very heavily.
Speaker 2: And for probably the last decade, have been work related.
Speaker 3: I've always been very career driven and it's been the
Speaker 3: number one thing. And she did make me think that
Speaker 3: career and work is only important if you're sharing it
Speaker 3: with people or if you're you know, it's like a puzzle.
Speaker 3: Your life is a jigsaw puzzle, and you need all
Speaker 3: these things to go together, so as long as ones
Speaker 3: not overtaking the other. So it's just one of those
Speaker 3: food for thought perspective things where I thought, you know what,
Speaker 3: I want everyone to think about it now and go
Speaker 3: and ask your your parents or your grandparents, go and
Speaker 3: ask them something about their life or something that you
Speaker 3: really want to know, something you might regret if they
Speaker 3: did leave this world and you never ask them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the opposite to it, isn't it. Usually they're
Speaker 4: all the questions that you want to ask. When they're
Speaker 4: not around to ask anymore, or they're not able to
Speaker 4: answer those questions anymore, that's when you really start thinking
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: But it's really sweet.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't expect to cry then. I really took
Speaker 2: me over.
Speaker 4: Now it is that time of year again where it
Speaker 4: comes around where there is like the most common baby
Speaker 4: names are twenty twenty five, but also the least common
Speaker 4: baby names and the names that have dropped out of
Speaker 4: the hot one hundred when it comes to naming your kids.
Speaker 2: Is this something that people bookmark in their diary the
Speaker 2: hottest one hundred baby names, like Christmas.
Speaker 1: Comes, Easter comes the baby list name cars.
Speaker 2: I've always cared about baby names. I was that kid
Speaker 2: in school even.
Speaker 4: Though I wasn't even sure if I was going to
Speaker 4: have kids, but I always had like a list of names.
Speaker 2: That I liked.
Speaker 4: I always thought I was going to have a girl
Speaker 4: and I was going to name her a Kaisha. Wow,
Speaker 4: I did that didn't happen. I did have a girl though,
Speaker 4: Kaysha Acacia. Did you make that up?
Speaker 2: Okay, No, it's to have tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I you've left that one in the forest.
Speaker 2: I was about nine years old.
Speaker 4: Marley, if we ever have another kid, my oldest order
Speaker 4: she wants us to call it Genevieva.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's not a real name. Feva. No,
Speaker 2: I think it is a name.
Speaker 4: I don't think Genevieva's in the Hottest one hundred, do
Speaker 4: you know? All right, Well, look, we're not talking about
Speaker 4: the names through at the top of the list. We're
Speaker 4: talking about the very common baby names that dropped out
Speaker 4: of the Hot one hundred for twenty twenty five. And
Speaker 4: some of these I think will really surprise you because
Speaker 4: some of these names I would have thought were still
Speaker 4: very very common.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: The name that has had the absolute biggest drop in
Speaker 4: terms of boys' names is Owen. It experienced the biggest
Speaker 4: drop in rankings, falling fifty places from ninety one to
Speaker 4: number one hundred and forty one on this year's list.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bad thing, Owen.
Speaker 3: Because that makes you not as common anymore. So on
Speaker 3: this list of the nine the top nine names that
Speaker 3: have fallen out of the top one hundred, three of
Speaker 3: them are family names.
Speaker 5: For me.
Speaker 1: Michael, Owen, and Charles are all.
Speaker 2: People in my family. They're all very traditional names. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go through them.
Speaker 4: So these here are the top nine that have fallen
Speaker 4: out for boys' names. Michael A I like ari Aris
Speaker 4: called it can stay. Ari is a great name.
Speaker 2: Didn't even know what's in the top one hundred. Olie
Speaker 2: Olie's gone.
Speaker 1: Olie is Oliver saying no time to rest Ollie.
Speaker 2: Hamish.
Speaker 4: Do you think it's because Hamish Blake is not on
Speaker 4: the airways anymore and everyone was calling their kid Hamish
Speaker 4: Blake for a period.
Speaker 2: They're not Blake.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna attest the top one
Speaker 3: hundred names to attribute the top one hundred names to
Speaker 3: Hamish Blake.
Speaker 4: I absolutely think that Hamish would have been a popular
Speaker 4: name for a while because people love Hamish Blake.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll give him that. Owen out, Ruben out,
Speaker 2: Ruben Sandwich. Never even heard of him, Ruben.
Speaker 1: I know three Rubens age three six.
Speaker 2: Year old Rubens. Wow. Zachary out. Zachary Hanson was great, though.
Speaker 2: I understand why people like that name, the Hansons.
Speaker 4: Charles out. It's because of King Charles. Now, you can't
Speaker 4: name your kid King Charles.
Speaker 2: You can't August.
Speaker 3: I love August for a boy. Yeah, August has been
Speaker 3: on my list, believe it or not. Baby names by fiance.
Speaker 3: Ben has vetoed it. He can't get over the fact
Speaker 3: that it's a month. He's like, cool, why don't we
Speaker 3: call it April? I said, also a name, Ben, also
Speaker 3: a name.
Speaker 2: Also name April is a name that I know? All right,
Speaker 2: what I told him?
Speaker 4: And here are the top girls names that are out
Speaker 4: of the top one hundred. Now okay, so Harlow no
Speaker 4: longer the top one hundred, Quinn, Cleo, thea Peyton. I
Speaker 4: didn't even know Peyton was in the top one hundred.
Speaker 4: I know a Paton, Athena and Lara.
Speaker 1: Do you think Quinn was made it to.
Speaker 3: The top one hundred because of Harley Quinn. No, now,
Speaker 3: Margot Robbie played Harley Quinn and that whole movie came out.
Speaker 2: But wasn't she a psychopath?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still they killed people.
Speaker 4: I don't know if people are watching movies like that
Speaker 4: and thinking that's a great name for my beautiful little
Speaker 4: newborn baby, Like I'm going to namer after like the Joker.
Speaker 3: What were you gonna call your kid when you were.
Speaker 4: A Kasha was a namer after a tree. I was
Speaker 4: a namer after a tree. I mean, some of these names,
Speaker 4: I'm surprised. Well, some of them I'm surprised they were
Speaker 4: ever in the top one hundred, and others I'm surprised
Speaker 4: they left. Were you the type of person who wrote
Speaker 4: the list?
Speaker 2: As a kid?
Speaker 4: Like do you have even though like you know you're
Speaker 4: in the know, you're thinking about whether or not you
Speaker 4: would have kids and whether you guys are gonna try soon.
Speaker 4: Do you have a list of baby names, your favorite
Speaker 4: baby names.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a list.
Speaker 3: There's about four names on it, but that's because ben
Speaker 3: Veto's every name that I like. And I think that
Speaker 3: is because we're from different parts of the world, so
Speaker 3: like he thinks Australian names, you know, Australian names are
Speaker 3: a bit unusual, Like that's our vibe, right, Like we
Speaker 3: don't mind different names. Over in Europe, they're pretty mainstream,
Speaker 3: Like they like the really traditional name, beautiful names traditional.
Speaker 3: I mean, Ben's Ben Benjamin. But so every time I
Speaker 3: say something it's pretty normal in Australia, and he thinks
Speaker 3: it's like the most abstract out of this world name.
Speaker 2: So we might have a hard time. I think this
Speaker 2: is an odd one.
Speaker 4: So my husband, his name is Matthew David Johnson, right,
Speaker 4: that's his full name. But then he also has a
Speaker 4: brother named David. So his mum liked the name so
Speaker 4: much that she gave one kid the middle name David
Speaker 4: and another.
Speaker 2: Kid the first name David. Is that odd? Who knows?
Speaker 2: I feel like there's so many names.
Speaker 3: That was really convalent Ostria forward for a second.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that.
Speaker 2: Weird, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It'd be like me now calling a kid May because
Speaker 4: I've already got a kid called Marley May, and then.
Speaker 2: Naming another one May. It just oh yeah, look.
Speaker 4: I mean I think it's an indication that maybe Elliet
Speaker 4: had too many kids.
Speaker 2: She's got five children,