Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and welcome to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and today we're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about our favorite Astrobatchie, our only astro, only
Speaker 1: Astrobacci and why was he called to see you next Tuesday?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was Psycho this week, it
Speaker 1: really was and a disrespectful pig. There're two things that
Speaker 1: you don't really want to be called. We're also going
Speaker 1: to be talking about what it is to have it all?
Speaker 1: Is it possible to have it all? Can you have
Speaker 1: the career, the babies, the clean house, drink a cups
Speaker 1: of water a day, exfoliate? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And just what does it all mean to an individual?
Speaker 2: Because I think it means a lot of different things
Speaker 2: to a lot of different women.
Speaker 1: But before we get into that, Brittany, did you hear
Speaker 1: that Cyrel and e are having a baby? I dare
Speaker 1: read this late last night. Tell me what you feel
Speaker 1: about this? Okay?
Speaker 2: So I think that you're going to be far more
Speaker 2: opinionated than I am on this one because I have
Speaker 2: a confession to make.
Speaker 1: If you say that you didn't watch either of those seasons,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get you to leave right now, I
Speaker 1: feel like get out, get out. So yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: have never watched Married at First Sight. I have an excuse.
Speaker 2: The first season played when I was in the Batch mansion,
Speaker 2: and as you know, you're not allowed to watch any TV.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a pretty pretty good excuse. And then I
Speaker 1: just was too worried.
Speaker 2: It was such a train wreck that I thought I
Speaker 2: would get stuck on it because all of Australia were
Speaker 2: stuck on it, and I.
Speaker 1: Just didn't want it.
Speaker 2: I hadn't even had a TV in seven years, so
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to start watching it.
Speaker 1: For Married at First Sight? What did you talk about
Speaker 1: for like four months? I don't understand in the mansion. No,
Speaker 1: as in when Married First Site was on TV? What
Speaker 1: did you actually talk about to your friends and to
Speaker 1: people in general? Don't tell me that there was other
Speaker 1: topics of conversation going around. Yeah, I think I was
Speaker 1: actually talking about real things, like side global warming and
Speaker 1: you know she's so cultured. Oh my god, guy, it's
Speaker 1: called woke Laura. She's woke everyone. I'm not woke. It's
Speaker 1: very early in the morning. Woke again. I am not woke,
Speaker 1: but here we are. What did you think about it.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna have I have an opinion, but
Speaker 2: I want to hear yours first, because you actually frothed
Speaker 2: on that show.
Speaker 1: I did. I was obsessed with Married at First Sight,
Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, Eden is not from
Speaker 1: Married at First Site, He's from Love Island, right, So
Speaker 1: they have cross pollinated the reality TV world, which is
Speaker 1: just nuts in itself, isn't it. You're not supposed to
Speaker 1: go onto the dark side. What are these people doing?
Speaker 1: Stick to your lane, people, stick to your lane. Look,
Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about this. Not about the fact
Speaker 1: that they're having a baby. I think it's amazing that
Speaker 1: they're having a baby. I love babies. I have a baby.
Speaker 1: I talk about my baby all the time. You like babies,
Speaker 1: I didn't know babies are great. The thing that I
Speaker 1: am a bit conflicted about is yesterday when it was
Speaker 1: announced their baby announcement was overshadowed by the fact that
Speaker 1: everyone is saying that they're doing it for a publicity stunt,
Speaker 1: which in itself is pretty horrific. You should not have
Speaker 1: a baby for a publicity stunt. I think we're all
Speaker 1: on board with that. My issue comes from the fact
Speaker 1: that they very strongly denied that this was the case. However,
Speaker 1: they did their release their announcement through NW, so they
Speaker 1: kept it as an exclusive announcement through NW magazine. If
Speaker 1: you've got something such so special, like a baby, that's
Speaker 1: something that you've announced that privately, If there's no publicity
Speaker 1: or leveraging involved here, why do you need to announce
Speaker 1: it through a glossy mag Look.
Speaker 2: I am going to play Devil's advocate a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I can see both sides. If you're going to
Speaker 2: announce something anyway this I'm not saying I would do this,
Speaker 2: but I can see why they're like, Look, we're going
Speaker 2: to do it anyway.
Speaker 1: Why don't we make a few thousand dollars doing it?
Speaker 2: Put it away for the baby, you know, if it's
Speaker 2: like that, if it's for the baby's future, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. I can see like we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2: But also I do feel a little bit sorry for
Speaker 2: them if it's not a publicity stand, which I don't
Speaker 2: think it is. You don't having a baby's a pretty
Speaker 2: big publicity start, because that's a commitment.
Speaker 1: That it's a long term goal, that is a real
Speaker 1: long goal. Right.
Speaker 2: I think they're a really controversial couple, so I think
Speaker 2: that anything they do, the media and the public are
Speaker 2: going to label that as a publicity stunt. Imagine that
Speaker 2: living like that, that would be really really hard. That
Speaker 2: you can't scratch yourself without someone saying or you're doing
Speaker 2: it for money, or you're doing it for fame.
Speaker 1: I agree that is a shit label to have. However,
Speaker 1: if you're so concerned about that label, would you then
Speaker 1: try and make hay when the sun shines and monopolize
Speaker 1: on the fact that you can make some money from
Speaker 1: your announcement. It sits a bit uncomfortably with me because
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say that there's nothing about
Speaker 1: it that you're going to gain from it from a
Speaker 1: publicity's sake. If you're going to go down the route
Speaker 1: of using the magazine to announce your pregnancy, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty controversial. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the only other thing that didn't sit right with
Speaker 2: me was the fact that they both independently made a
Speaker 2: comment that the ex partners had fertility problems.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I did read that as well.
Speaker 1: It seems pretty insensitive to even really need to talk
Speaker 1: about your exes at all when you're having a baby
Speaker 1: announcement with someone else. Yeah, it should really be. The
Speaker 1: focus should be on your relationship and on what you're
Speaker 1: creating together, not to bring in other people's struggles and difficulties,
Speaker 1: which is such an incredibly sensitive issue into your announcement
Speaker 1: because Aaron and Nick they don't have a voice in
Speaker 1: this and they're not able to express how they feel.
Speaker 1: To kind of drag them into it and to comment
Speaker 1: on what they can and can't have and their fertility
Speaker 1: struggles is incredibly insensitive. It's just a.
Speaker 2: Very very personal topic and it should be theirs, and
Speaker 2: there's only to discuss in a public manner.
Speaker 1: So I agree that wasn't cool with me. But good
Speaker 1: luck to them. Congratulations that happy couple. We hope that
Speaker 1: you have a beautiful, healthy baby. I really do hope
Speaker 1: that they have a beautiful, healthy baby, because that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, regardless of any sentiment or
Speaker 1: any motivation behind it, or even how they execute all
Speaker 1: of their milestones coming up, there is the baby involved
Speaker 1: and that is the biggest part of this. So I
Speaker 1: really hope that everyone else can get on board and
Speaker 1: be supportive. But moving along.
Speaker 2: Laura Batch recap Episode five the Dog. See you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Holy moly, guaca mole, Holy moly, guaca moly. Does anyone
Speaker 1: remember that are you five? No? That was on Ali's
Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor. I was doing a quote. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I missed that. Sorry, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: why is she here? Can someone tell me why Brittany
Speaker 1: is commentating on a reality TV podcast when she doesn't
Speaker 1: watch reality TV? I've got some real issues with this. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm here for the lulls. Yeah, are you here so
Speaker 1: that I can recap it to you so that you
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I openly will admit I didn't
Speaker 1: really watch all of Allie's season either. I was really
Speaker 1: batched out. That was straight off the back of my season.
Speaker 1: You're coming in hot. But anyway, forgive you for this.
Speaker 1: I was having a mine a meltdown in my room.
Speaker 1: So long as you are dedicated to the cause from
Speaker 1: here on in, girlfriend, so dedicated? We need to talk
Speaker 1: about well, let's start from the start.
Speaker 2: I know we want to jump into see next Tuesday. No,
Speaker 2: I was just saying, we need to talk about Abby.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, abdog ab doc.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She had a single date. Yeah she did, and
Speaker 1: she squished fruit with her feet. Gross. She's very handsy,
Speaker 1: she's very flirtatious. She knows what she wants and she's
Speaker 1: going to go get that.
Speaker 2: A lot of sexual chemistry. We've seen that on all
Speaker 2: of their dates and all of their single time, but
Speaker 2: I think this date, Matt was like, Okay, cool, I
Speaker 2: get her, we can make out. We need to see
Speaker 2: there's more.
Speaker 1: She did bring the chat to the table when she
Speaker 1: started talking about her family and she was talking about
Speaker 1: how she had a difficult relationship with her dad leaving
Speaker 1: that was that was really good because that kind of
Speaker 1: cushioned the rest of the of the controversial chat. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, girlfriend, I feel you. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you got me with a knife when she started talking
Speaker 1: about Monique spot Yes, So for those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know, Abby kind of threw Manique under the bus
Speaker 1: a little bit, kinda did she did that? She slaughtered
Speaker 1: her with a bus. And it was coming off the
Speaker 1: back of the last episode where Monique had had a
Speaker 1: single date and she'd macked on with Matt and then
Speaker 1: Matt had come into the cocktail party and macked on
Speaker 1: with Abby, and Abby had really come back from her
Speaker 1: macking on date and told every much macking, there's so
Speaker 1: much macking. What then happened was Monique obviously was a
Speaker 1: little bit annoyed. She said some pretty colorful things about Matt, which, look,
Speaker 1: the sea bomb is probably not really an acceptable thing
Speaker 1: to ever call anyone. I don't really see how it
Speaker 1: can can be a joke, which is what she was
Speaker 1: trying to phrase it as.
Speaker 2: Later, well, I think what she means is and I
Speaker 2: guess I can see this in a way. To me,
Speaker 2: the sea word is the most disgraceful, disgusting word, and
Speaker 2: I can't even bring myself to say it in it
Speaker 2: if I'm retelling a story.
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. But the way she speaks,
Speaker 1: Laura is.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, looking at me, Like sometimes sometimes I say
Speaker 2: it for me, No, for me, it's a no if. Actually,
Speaker 2: if I'm talking to a guy and he says it,
Speaker 2: it's an immediate turn off, and in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I strike him out. Like I won't say it on
Speaker 2: this podcast because we're.
Speaker 1: Not r rated, but from time to time, if I
Speaker 1: won't say it about someone, would you say it? Well,
Speaker 1: I can't say it on the podcast. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it as a joke. I guess I
Speaker 1: would say it about something. Start again from the top.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll delete this. I don't need the world note
Speaker 1: that I've got a potty bouth. Also, if you listen
Speaker 1: to the way she talks, that sort of is her vibe.
Speaker 1: She's a bit of a.
Speaker 2: Rough diamond and her vocabulary is questionable, so I could
Speaker 2: see it thrown out there is sort of funny colloquial,
Speaker 2: but maybe that just is her Okay.
Speaker 1: But heading back to Abby and Abby telling Matt on
Speaker 1: the date what Manique said? What do you think of that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't look out if that was cool or not cool?
Speaker 1: Not cool? Well, so this is the.
Speaker 2: Thing, something that happened in our season two and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say it, but the producers were really
Speaker 2: pushing us anyone whoever, they didn't care, pushing someone to
Speaker 2: go and tell Nick what was said. No one did
Speaker 2: because it was quite down to the end as well.
Speaker 2: They was sort of getting me to do it, and
Speaker 2: I said, there's no way I'm going to do that.
Speaker 2: He can work this out on his own, essentially, and
Speaker 2: it's not my job. And I didn't feel comfortable going
Speaker 2: and throwing someone else under the bus. So I didn't
Speaker 2: and no one did.
Speaker 1: We all ignored it. So I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel about her doing it. Well, my issue with the
Speaker 1: whole thing is more the fact that you have very
Speaker 1: limited time to talk about yourself. Why would you waste
Speaker 1: your date bitching about what somebody else said and what
Speaker 1: no one else probably has realized? And I was like, hah,
Speaker 1: I know something's happening here is on a single date.
Speaker 1: Once you get given a rose, that single date is over.
Speaker 1: You don't have extended time flapping around in a pool
Speaker 1: making out. Oh you're input on a chain and you
Speaker 1: were dragging out it. It's like, cool, we got what
Speaker 1: we came for, Thanks guys, Out we go. Abby got
Speaker 1: her rose sitting on the couch, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden that's like, hey, let's go get in the
Speaker 1: jacuzzi and make out some more, which made me realize,
Speaker 1: I know that something else is coming. This day was
Speaker 1: already premeditated, That conversation was already set up, because there's
Speaker 1: no way in hell they would have given Abby that
Speaker 1: extra one or one time. So they probably kind of
Speaker 1: dangled it in front of her as a carrot and
Speaker 1: said ribe for sure, Yeah, if you tell Matt, then
Speaker 1: you'll get extra time with him, you'll get to get
Speaker 1: in the pool, you can get real handsy. So I
Speaker 1: guess she thought maybe she was leveraging it to the
Speaker 1: best of her ability. However, the messenger never comes out
Speaker 1: on top, it's not gonna end well for her.
Speaker 2: And she also would have thought that Monique is starting
Speaker 2: to be a real threat, So that was her chance to,
Speaker 2: I guess, sort of not a competitor out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really childish. It's a really childish way
Speaker 1: of doing it. And I think that most people can
Speaker 1: kind of see through through the motivating factors in that,
Speaker 1: because she was in the pool smiling, being like, I
Speaker 1: just have to tell you because I just want to
Speaker 1: do the right thing by you KII So whose side
Speaker 1: were you on? Monique's or Abby's? I think they've both
Speaker 1: done the wrong thing. They both probably should have just left.
Speaker 1: Matt is smart enough, he's good enough at the game
Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to figure out who's
Speaker 1: in there for the right reasons. I don't think that
Speaker 1: you need to point it out for him, because it
Speaker 1: doesn't make you look good and it's really hard.
Speaker 2: Did you have anybody on your season that was just
Speaker 2: polar opposite alone in the house with you guys to
Speaker 2: when the cameras came on and The Bachelor came on. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's hard to watch. So if that's the case, I
Speaker 2: guess maybe there was some frustration in there as well
Speaker 2: that do you know what?
Speaker 1: We did actually have a couple of girls who in
Speaker 1: our season were really quite mean behind the camera, and
Speaker 1: then when the cameras were on were like, it's showtime,
Speaker 1: but their true colors came out on the screen anyway,
Speaker 1: So the villains that were the villains in our season
Speaker 1: were actually the villains in the house, so there wasn't
Speaker 1: a mismatch, and nobody had to stand up and jump
Speaker 1: up and down and say, hey, that person's really mean.
Speaker 1: Matt just figured it out on his own. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I know that our Astrobatchy would have figured out.
Speaker 2: And also the producers are there saying, you know, he
Speaker 2: should know, he deserves to know. So you have this
Speaker 2: outside pressure to it on the spot of like maybe
Speaker 2: I should tell him, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: have to keep an open mind now since I've done it,
Speaker 2: I have to be open about it, and I can't
Speaker 2: jump to any conclusions because I know what happens in there. Okay,
Speaker 2: So moving quite along, Helena gets a date.
Speaker 1: They go to the pearl factory, the pearl factory, the
Speaker 1: insemination factory. It was so sexual, wasn't it. The sexual
Speaker 1: innuendos were way too over the top every episode of
Speaker 1: This Bachelor. I don't know how they make the most
Speaker 1: meaningless trivial activities so heated and sexual. We're making a baby, yeah,
Speaker 1: just get it in there like you like that. It
Speaker 1: was just a bit too much. Yeah, and they hadn't
Speaker 1: even kissed and they were making babies. What about the
Speaker 1: reference to the pearl necklace at the end? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: google that because that's also not g reck. I actually
Speaker 1: had to google it. I knew it was something, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know what. It's actually taken me by surprise.
Speaker 1: And how sexual Matt is.
Speaker 2: I didn't think when he came on as this nerdy
Speaker 2: astrophysicist bachelor, I thought it was going to be all
Speaker 2: chats and intellectuals.
Speaker 1: But it's been pretty I rated. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I think it is? I think he's just this mega
Speaker 1: nerd that's never had chicks like falling all over him before,
Speaker 1: and now he's like, I am a guy. I love me.
Speaker 1: So he's just out there waving his little rocket around
Speaker 1: so excited. Everything was it my arm action for the rocket.
Speaker 1: Then he's going to see Laura's hand gestures right now,
Speaker 1: she's so animated with his rocket. But it's so so sexuals.
Speaker 1: I kind of got to a point with that date
Speaker 1: where I was like, all right, we get it. You
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get it on. And then they didn't
Speaker 1: get it on exactly. It stopped doing those hands. Sorry
Speaker 1: make me so uncomfortable, I know, And then he kissed
Speaker 1: her on bom bomba the cheek and then they just
Speaker 1: both got up and walked on opposite directions off screen.
Speaker 1: It was really sad the end of their day. And
Speaker 1: I know that they were trying to the Bachelotte franchise
Speaker 1: was trying to frame it as Matt's a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's not out there kissing all these people. He has
Speaker 1: sexual allegings. Matt has feelings too. He's, you know, an
Speaker 1: oppressed white man that gets to choose between all of
Speaker 1: the women. It's hard for him, Brittany, it's hard. It
Speaker 1: is hard, and I feel for the guy. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: totally so he has an awkward date with Elena, although
Speaker 1: I do really like her. Then we end up at
Speaker 1: the cocktail party where Matt confronts Monique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do feel sorry for all the other
Speaker 2: girls at the cocktail party because Inspector Gadget, I mean,
Speaker 2: Matt did spend all his time with these two girls,
Speaker 2: Abby and Monique and just trying to work out what
Speaker 2: had happened.
Speaker 1: But I think every other girl got forgotten. It was no,
Speaker 1: it was just so high school, the fact that he
Speaker 1: interrogated every single other girl that was there and was like,
Speaker 1: cigand what did Monique say about me? Chelsea? What did
Speaker 1: Manique say about me? Did Monique say this? And then
Speaker 1: at the end of it, he cracked the shits and
Speaker 1: walked out. It was to me, it was just very,
Speaker 1: very childish, especially because he didn't even send either of
Speaker 1: the girls home. He sent lovely ukulele girl home, I know,
Speaker 1: and I loved her. I loved ukulele girl Julia. She
Speaker 1: has a name, Laura. Ukulele girl was great. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to do that thing where I am probably too
Speaker 1: nice and fight you on this one. But I did
Speaker 1: think it was high school.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you were in his position, and you
Speaker 2: really you had two people's word against each other, that's it,
Speaker 2: and you like both of them, but you know one
Speaker 2: of them is doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Off with their heads, all of them. I never would
Speaker 1: have survived in the quit of Scott's age, would I.
Speaker 1: You would have just annihilated me. And yes, I appreciate
Speaker 1: it if you've got feelings for both of them, you
Speaker 1: want to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: But Laura was talking about The Bachelor, there's never going
Speaker 2: to be an episode without drama.
Speaker 1: We need the series.
Speaker 2: What would have happened in that episode? Honestly if he
Speaker 2: didn't investigate who said what?
Speaker 1: And he would have been heckled from production to try
Speaker 1: and get to the bottom of it, So it would
Speaker 1: have been off. Yeah, it would have been motivated by
Speaker 1: production to really take a deep dive. I just thought
Speaker 1: it went on too long and it got a bit
Speaker 1: of high school and it was interesting to see a
Speaker 1: lot of the other girl's responses. Well, most of the
Speaker 1: girls were annoyed to Abby, even though they knew man
Speaker 1: he could set it. They were pissed off at Abby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like girl code, isn't it. I guess at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, things that have said within the mansion,
Speaker 1: especially things that have said under frustration, shouldn't then be
Speaker 1: repeated to the bachelor. To try and one up yourself
Speaker 1: and to get ahead of the race just means that
Speaker 1: you become untrustworthy in everyone else's eyes. So Abby has
Speaker 1: a massive target on her back. Now, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's another side we might not have seen yet. In
Speaker 1: comparison to that episode, the next episode was pretty boring.
Speaker 1: I think the highlight from the next episode was just
Speaker 1: Chelsea's day. No, what the hell.
Speaker 2: I loved their group date. It was like a fight
Speaker 2: to the death for the bouquet.
Speaker 1: Then Matt slung with this sling shot. It really took
Speaker 1: things from zero to hero with a whole wedding dress thing.
Speaker 2: It was for me, it was quite a laughable, embarrassing date,
Speaker 2: and I think the girls felt that too. You could
Speaker 2: see them sitting there in their wedding dresses being like,
Speaker 2: what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got into it. I liked it. I kind
Speaker 1: of liked the date.
Speaker 2: I literally was a fight to the death between Abby
Speaker 2: and Monique.
Speaker 1: And everyone was hell bent on getting Abby out. Abby
Speaker 1: really has become like the unassuming villain in this hole.
Speaker 1: But seas. To be fair, Abby was quite athletic.
Speaker 2: She's just doing some leaps and lunges and tumbles and
Speaker 2: she caught so many both.
Speaker 1: No, but do you not remember the second part of
Speaker 1: that date where they had to try and do the
Speaker 1: compatibility tests and Matt was asking questions, you know, like
Speaker 1: when do you want to get married? And then they
Speaker 1: had to say A B or C and pick, and
Speaker 1: Abby was choosing the answers that she knew were most
Speaker 1: relative to Matt instead of choosing the answers that were
Speaker 1: genuine to her. So she said that in the next
Speaker 1: two years. It was a two years, five years, who knows,
Speaker 1: very soon she wants to be married and have babies.
Speaker 1: And now the other girls are like, girlfriend, you are lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but apparently she told them she didn't want kids
Speaker 2: in anywhere in the near future.
Speaker 1: If ever, well she's young, you know, and maybe she
Speaker 1: doesn't want kids. Does she want them in the next
Speaker 1: two years. I'm gonna call bullshit on that one. So
Speaker 1: what did you think of Chelsea's date?
Speaker 2: Chelsea's date was super cute. I mean, you could see
Speaker 2: that little food fight a mile away.
Speaker 1: It was a bit contrived, but I still like them.
Speaker 1: They are. I mean the match. There was this moment
Speaker 1: at the end of the food fight where they were
Speaker 1: having this really cute moment, but I couldn't take it
Speaker 1: seriously because Chelsea had the biggest clump of dough on
Speaker 1: her eyelashes and I just looked like conjunctividers and I
Speaker 1: couldn't look at her. I was like, girl, wipe your
Speaker 1: eye now, why are you leaving that shit in her eye?
Speaker 1: I actually thought that the food fight went from being
Speaker 1: cute to just being a bit disgusting, like, oh yeah, lo,
Speaker 1: let's throw some flower and then Chelsea's base it in
Speaker 1: batter from her to toe. It was and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna also call bullshit. And the fact that they
Speaker 1: did not make that banana bread it looked too good.
Speaker 1: That came from the art department her hands down, that
Speaker 1: was from a top notch bakery. All yeah, they just
Speaker 1: like oh, and He's like.
Speaker 2: Look at how we cooked at its moist and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you have not seen that you did not make that?
Speaker 1: Here is one we prepared earlier. I thought that they
Speaker 1: were really sweet together. She's been cast very well to
Speaker 1: match all of his criteria. She is the nerd he
Speaker 1: is a nerd. They talk about nerd stuff together, and
Speaker 1: they're going to go live in nerd village and have
Speaker 1: nerd babies Nerd Squared. Yes, I think he's a nerd
Speaker 1: to the power of Nerd.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw this out there to Chelsea's body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's starting that under there, wasn't she. She's a
Speaker 1: hot nerd.
Speaker 2: But he's a hot nerd too, So the hot Nerd
Speaker 2: squaredes loved it.
Speaker 1: And then after Chelsea's date, we got into the cocktail
Speaker 1: party and Matt gave him a nickue the boot. Yes,
Speaker 1: straight up out of here girlfriend. Yeah, he's all business,
Speaker 1: wasn't he. He's like, I can't trust you. We can't
Speaker 1: go any further. Do you want me to leave?
Speaker 2: I think he was supposed to say no, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't you think it's funny that the motivating
Speaker 1: factor for her getting kicked out was the fact that
Speaker 1: she wouldn't run around an oval after the bouquet like
Speaker 1: he was, like, she just didn't try on the group date.
Speaker 1: That really didn't try hard enough. But that really frustrated me.
Speaker 1: She needs to run after flowers for me to prove
Speaker 1: her love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually really frustrated me because I don't think
Speaker 2: you can use that as a reason at all. She
Speaker 2: was standing there saying, this is ridiculous. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to go and fight Abby in the mud for a
Speaker 2: bouquet to prove my worth and how much I care
Speaker 2: for Matt.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that shows it. However, she did
Speaker 1: get herself into a sticky situation with this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and she probably needed to do something to try and
Speaker 1: show that she was remorseful. I think, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't think she did that. No. I just think
Speaker 1: that he knew it wasn't her and he didn't want
Speaker 1: her there anymore, and he needed a reason, and so
Speaker 1: he was grasping at straals and his reason happened to
Speaker 1: be she didn't fight to the death and see you
Speaker 1: next Tuesday, also a pretty hectic reason. If someone premier
Speaker 1: someone called me a seepeep, I would definitely be like,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to part ways. The other heartbreak
Speaker 1: of the evening was Vaco Fucka. I know she's a sweetheart,
Speaker 1: but she was very, very giggly on her extra time
Speaker 1: with Matt, and I could see that from a mile
Speaker 1: away that she was going to be leaving them yet.
Speaker 2: And she's so stunning. But they just had nothing in common.
Speaker 2: But that's part of dating. You're going to meet people
Speaker 2: that you get along with, like a house on fire,
Speaker 2: or that you just share no similarities with. And I
Speaker 2: think those two are just two beautiful humans independently, but
Speaker 2: they just don't work.
Speaker 1: No, they had no vibe and no chemistry. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she was nervous. Do you think the giggles
Speaker 1: Was it just nerves, very nervous, yeah, Or was it
Speaker 1: because she just didn't know what to say because she
Speaker 1: has nothing in common with him. Probably a bit of
Speaker 1: a mixture of both. They don't They are from different
Speaker 1: worlds and they were never going to mesh in this environment.
Speaker 1: But she was a sweet and I really enjoyed her
Speaker 1: commentary throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I think we can probably take Salas in the fact
Speaker 2: that she's going to be on Bachelor in Paradise in
Speaker 2: a bikini and looking like a million dollars.
Speaker 1: We have not seen the last of it. I will
Speaker 1: put money on the fact that both Manig and Vaku
Speaker 1: will be in Batch and Paradise. I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of this cast will be Actually, will you be
Speaker 1: on Batch in Paradise, Brittany, don't make me laugh. No
Speaker 1: one needs to see this in a bikini. Now that's
Speaker 1: not even true. To stop, Let's get into our main chat,
Speaker 1: and that is is it possible to have it all?
Speaker 1: Can we have it all? And?
Speaker 2: Actually, Laura, what does it all even mean these days?
Speaker 1: Can we have the career, the family, the children, the husband?
Speaker 2: Can we have the social circle, the holidays, the house,
Speaker 2: the pick of fence, the dogs?
Speaker 1: Is it possible to do it all equally? What do
Speaker 1: you think? Me? What do I think? You're the other
Speaker 1: person in the room on the podcast, So yeah, hi,
Speaker 1: what do I think? It's possible for women to have
Speaker 1: it all? But they cannot have it all at the
Speaker 1: same time because in order to do one job well,
Speaker 1: you need to really throw yourself into that. To do
Speaker 1: your career and to be successful in a high powered career,
Speaker 1: you need to throw yourself into that career to do that,
Speaker 1: that's time away from your children. So how on earth
Speaker 1: are you supposed to be a wonderful successful mum, a
Speaker 1: wonderful successful business woman and not sacrifice anything in between?
Speaker 1: The thought that we keep perpetuating that it is possible
Speaker 1: only puts added stress and anxiety on women who aren't
Speaker 1: achieving those things and feel like they're failing. Well, something
Speaker 1: has to suffer, doesn't it. It always will, Something will
Speaker 1: always suffer. And also I think your idea of having
Speaker 1: it all changes with as you grow as a person.
Speaker 2: So I remember when I was probably twenty six, I
Speaker 2: was living in Sydney and Bonny in an amazing house.
Speaker 2: I had two careers that were going really really well.
Speaker 2: I have an amazing family. I lived on the beach.
Speaker 2: You know, I had this amazing life. Some would say
Speaker 2: like I had it all, but I was always feeling
Speaker 2: less fulfilled, and what it all meant to me kept changing,
Speaker 2: because once I had what I thought it all was,
Speaker 2: you want more. You always want more, so all of
Speaker 2: a sudden all became something different to me.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 2: So then I chased this travel dream. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I haven't traveled the world yet, so that's what all is.
Speaker 2: So I went and did that, and then I went
Speaker 2: and studied again, and it just kept on snowballing.
Speaker 1: And things do suffer.
Speaker 2: So even now you and I, I guess, are trying
Speaker 2: to have it all by juggling multiple careers and a baby,
Speaker 2: and I think to at some point we're already suffering.
Speaker 2: We're both walking zombies, but we're fighting to fill our
Speaker 2: life with the idea of that we can do anything
Speaker 2: we want to know in ourself that it's possible. No
Speaker 2: one's going to tell you that you can't take on
Speaker 2: a third job because you have a baby, Laura. You
Speaker 2: know that's I think internally we're like, well I can.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to let one thing stop me.
Speaker 1: So true. I almost get to a point sometimes where
Speaker 1: I think, but it's not worth it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to have it. All that just sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2: I actually read an interesting article that was written by
Speaker 2: a woman called Anne Marie Slaughter. She basically was the
Speaker 2: first woman director of policy planning at the State Department.
Speaker 2: So she was rubbing shoulders with the Obamas, and she
Speaker 2: was basically the dream if you're in that industry. She
Speaker 2: had worked so hard to get there, and she had
Speaker 2: thought it was all she had ever wanted, and she
Speaker 2: was about to re sign on for another two year
Speaker 2: term and all she could think about. She said, I
Speaker 2: was at this function and the Obamas were there, and
Speaker 2: we were having this great old time, and I had
Speaker 2: realized I had made it, but all I could think
Speaker 2: about was my fourteen year old son at home and
Speaker 2: the fact that he'd been playing up at school and
Speaker 2: wasn't listening to twenty adults. And that was because she
Speaker 2: had dedicated her time to her career, and at that
Speaker 2: moment when she thought she had it all and she
Speaker 2: was nailing it, she didn't sign on anymore and went
Speaker 2: home to her son, even though she had finally had
Speaker 2: her dream jobbing her hands, because she said, it's just
Speaker 2: not possible. And I think a large part of that
Speaker 2: also stems from this fact that we still make men
Speaker 2: the breadwinner, and we need to change the way we
Speaker 2: look at men and women and their roles because men
Speaker 2: are still trained to think, and a lot of women
Speaker 2: also judge a man on how much they earn in
Speaker 2: their career goals, even if we don't want to admit it.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like, what do you do, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a successful job. But if we.
Speaker 2: Change that to workplaces and employers and employees and everyone
Speaker 2: else having this equal view that men and women can
Speaker 2: be the caregiver, then I think the roles will start
Speaker 2: to change and we might be able to have it
Speaker 2: at all. Because all will be inclusive of a man
Speaker 2: looking after a child as well.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean by saying that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I definitely do, And I think that there
Speaker 1: are aspects of it that we're getting closer towards. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with Matt recently about paternity
Speaker 1: leave and how a lot of businesses are bringing in
Speaker 1: paid an equal paternity leave for their partners, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's wonderful. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: was saying to Matt, there is a very real physical
Speaker 1: recovery period that comes from having a baby. Maternity is
Speaker 1: necessary because you have just physically birthed a child. There
Speaker 1: is a huge taxing time frame that comes from being
Speaker 1: a woman and having a baby that men don't have.
Speaker 1: In order to have it all, you really need to
Speaker 1: have help, and lots of help costs lots of money.
Speaker 1: So to have it all, you need to have lots
Speaker 1: of money, and it's so unfair and so unrealistic. Cycle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for the majority of people, we don't have this disposable
Speaker 1: income where we can throw money at the problem. And
Speaker 1: it made me think of this conference that I went
Speaker 1: to Colled She Runs the World. There was this woman
Speaker 1: speaking at it named Gillian Franklin, who owns and was
Speaker 1: the CEO of a makeup online makeup company called hete
Speaker 1: Very Very Successful, and she spoke about how the reason
Speaker 1: why she can have it all in her career is
Speaker 1: because she doesn't do anything with her children that don't
Speaker 1: add value. So the cooking, the cleaning, all those aspects
Speaker 1: of her life, she doesn't feel that they add value
Speaker 1: to the relationship that she has with her children, and
Speaker 1: so she has someone else to do that. And at
Speaker 1: the time, I was listening to this speech and I thought,
Speaker 1: you're so right. Don't do anything that doesn't add value
Speaker 1: to your life. And now that I'm in this phase
Speaker 1: of my life, like I was sold a goddamn lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because easier said than done. It's such money and
Speaker 2: a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's such an entitled and privileged thing to outsource areas
Speaker 1: of your life such as the cooking and the cleaning.
Speaker 1: What about the person who is the cook and the
Speaker 1: person who is the cleaner. They don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to outsource those areas of their life. And it's very
Speaker 1: possible that they have children as well, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to work and manage and live this dream of having
Speaker 1: it all.
Speaker 2: I think the majority of the population, especially you know,
Speaker 2: I think Australia is in the top ten most expensive
Speaker 2: cities in the world. Majority of the population are just
Speaker 2: trying to get by.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have choice of saying I'm not going
Speaker 2: to cook today, it doesn't serve my purpose today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very I think it's a very privileged debate
Speaker 1: to even consider can I have it all? Can I
Speaker 1: have the travel, Can I have the kids? Can I
Speaker 1: have the family? And I think the only way that
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to overcome this idea of
Speaker 1: having it all is by redefining what having it all means,
Speaker 1: because what having it all means to me is very
Speaker 1: different what having it all means to you.
Speaker 2: I actually find this really interesting. My brother has a
Speaker 2: seventeen month old son, and he and his partner are
Speaker 2: both working in the bank in finances, and they both
Speaker 2: have very good jobs. And my sister in law was
Speaker 2: quite on her way to working herself up to a
Speaker 2: job she had wanted for a long time. My brother
Speaker 2: really wanted a child, it was what he really wanted,
Speaker 2: so she ended up saying, Okay, we'll do this, but
Speaker 2: I can't take a year of maternity to leave off,
Speaker 2: because at that point in her life, she was really
Speaker 2: adamant that she was going to continue to get to
Speaker 2: this job, this position she wanted to yes had her goals.
Speaker 2: So my brother said, absolutely, fine, I will be the
Speaker 2: state home dad, even though he had this great job too.
Speaker 2: So she took the first three months off and breastfed
Speaker 2: and then she would express. After that she went back
Speaker 2: to work, and then my brother took another six months
Speaker 2: off and he and Parker he was the state at
Speaker 2: home mum and for him or the stay at home dad. Well,
Speaker 2: he was a state home dad and for him that
Speaker 2: was what having it all was for him at that point.
Speaker 1: It was the opposite.
Speaker 2: It was giving up his crew at that point because
Speaker 2: all for him was family At that moment.
Speaker 1: Just really took my hat.
Speaker 2: Off to both of them because there was no specific
Speaker 2: set role and it wasn't like, oh, you can't do
Speaker 2: that because it's the mum's job.
Speaker 1: Sort of thing. I think that's amazing. I still think
Speaker 1: that that's the minority, though. I do think that the
Speaker 1: majority of the household work and the majority of the
Speaker 1: family care kind of falls on the matriarch. It falls
Speaker 1: on the females of the family, and I know that
Speaker 1: that is shifting in some aspects in some relationships, but
Speaker 1: I don't think overall we've had a huge shift in
Speaker 1: that role. No. But that goes back to what I
Speaker 1: said earlier.
Speaker 2: If we slowly as a society start to change our
Speaker 2: views that we can equally be breadwinners and caregivers, that having.
Speaker 1: It all will be more achievable. Personally, I had a
Speaker 1: different thought process when I was going into having kids.
Speaker 1: I really thought that Matt and I would be very
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty in our role in raising Maley. And
Speaker 1: we're very fifty to fifty obviously in our love and
Speaker 1: our commitment to her. But when it comes to the
Speaker 1: day to day, I think I lived in a bit
Speaker 1: of a fantasy world where I thought that it would
Speaker 1: be more even, and it's just fallen on me that
Speaker 1: I do the primary load of the silent work. I'm
Speaker 1: the one that takes care of her most of the day,
Speaker 1: and that's my role. And it's not because Matt and
Speaker 1: I work different amounts. We still both work the same
Speaker 1: amount of hours in the day. It's just that I
Speaker 1: think that there is this still this expectation that the
Speaker 1: mother takes care of the children. In a lot of
Speaker 1: relationships and a lot of families, No, And I think.
Speaker 2: It comes down to compromise and just really bringing it
Speaker 2: to the table for each other. So my brother and
Speaker 2: his partner are just a couple goals because they both
Speaker 2: work so hard and sacrifice different like this, she wanted
Speaker 2: that child.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think it she didn't. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but she wants it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She walks in the door after work and he doesn't
Speaker 2: leave her side, you know. And then my brother will
Speaker 2: go and have his time, or he'll cook the dinner
Speaker 2: while she spends the time with a baby. But they
Speaker 2: just made it work together because they both knew what
Speaker 2: they wanted and they made it happen. And I love
Speaker 2: that and I hope to see a.
Speaker 1: Lot more of that in the future. Basically, for all
Speaker 1: the bra burning that was done, it wasn't done so
Speaker 1: that women can have it all. It was done so
Speaker 1: that we have choice. We have the option to have
Speaker 1: it all. Absolutely, having it all is being able to
Speaker 1: choose the parts that you want for yourself. And we
Speaker 1: have the freedom to do that now, not the necessity
Speaker 1: of having to do it all. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't love the term either having it all, because
Speaker 1: I do think it implies that what you have at
Speaker 1: that time is not enough. Yeah, and so a lot
Speaker 1: of people always think it's not enough, and they're wanting more,
Speaker 1: and they're not living in the moment and appreciating and
Speaker 1: being grateful for what they have. They're always striving for
Speaker 1: something else. And the fact of the matter is you're
Speaker 1: gonna get there, and you're gonna want something. You're gonna
Speaker 1: want more again. It's so true, isn't it. If you're
Speaker 1: an ambitious person and you're like, no one really stops
Speaker 1: and takes stock of where they're at five years ago.
Speaker 1: You are now exactly where you wanted to be five
Speaker 1: years ago. You've succeeded, you've achieved all those things. But
Speaker 1: no one sits in that moment and goes, God, I'm successful.
Speaker 1: Everyone sits in that moment and goes, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: there yet. I need to be here now, what can
Speaker 1: I do better? Totally so in saying that, and I
Speaker 1: think it is coming back to what you've just said
Speaker 1: that it's this continuously unattainable goal of having it all
Speaker 1: because you're never there. You never actually think you have it,
Speaker 1: even when you do have it. Retrospect is a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing to be able to look back and go, oh,
Speaker 1: actually remember that time when I was really happy and
Speaker 1: I did have all those beautiful things in my life.
Speaker 1: Because there's ebbs and flows. What you have now you
Speaker 1: may not have in ten years time. So I do
Speaker 1: think that we need to be really appreciative of where
Speaker 1: we're at and the wonderful things that we've achieved in
Speaker 1: our life at every point along the journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think for everyone listening now, just take
Speaker 2: a moment, think of what you've got right now, think
Speaker 2: of what you've achieved, and just live in it. You'll
Speaker 2: never ever have this day again. Taking time to be appreciative.
Speaker 1: Laurie, you and I looking at each other now talking
Speaker 1: about this, we're really really have taken it to heart.
Speaker 1: What we're saying, we're believing. The look in your eyes
Speaker 1: is you're like, you're thinking of Miley and Matt right now.
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. I can read you like a book.
Speaker 1: I am so grateful. And I sometimes think we're so
Speaker 1: busy that we don't We were rushing, and we're always rushing.
Speaker 1: We live in this culture where it's almost like a
Speaker 1: state of symbol to be really busy. Oh I'm really busy.
Speaker 1: No one wants to say, actually, I'm not busy at all.
Speaker 1: I'm super lazy. I'm going home to now, go on
Speaker 1: home to Yeah. It's almost like you're not doing enough,
Speaker 1: You're not successful enough. You haven't you haven't packed enough
Speaker 1: stuff into your day. This concept you're like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: only working three jobs. Oh, I'm doing four, you know,
Speaker 1: like or the fact that you're doing for makes you
Speaker 1: more important, yeah, which it does not. Busyness that we
Speaker 1: live our lives in now is meant to be a
Speaker 1: status symbol of being successful, but it really all it
Speaker 1: means is that we're so our time is so full
Speaker 1: that we don't have the ability to be introspective and
Speaker 1: to take time to appreciate what we're doing. So I
Speaker 1: do agree with that, Britt. I think it's so important
Speaker 1: to take time and really reflect on how far you've
Speaker 1: come on what you've achieved, and what having it all
Speaker 1: is right now. This chat has been something I've been
Speaker 1: thinking a lot about and really contemplating whether it is
Speaker 1: possible to have it all, And I think we can
Speaker 1: both agree it's not possible to have it all at
Speaker 1: once at once, but also in the very confined ideology
Speaker 1: of what having it all is. You can have it
Speaker 1: all so long as your idea of having it all
Speaker 1: is contentment beautiful. All right, well that was harmonious. Do
Speaker 1: you feel transcendent now? My people? People have in touch?
Speaker 1: What have we signed up for? That's your motivation? Monday
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday? Okay, time for our favorite segment, ask uncut. Okay,
Speaker 1: today you come to us for all of your unsolicited
Speaker 1: relationship advice. And do I have a doozy for you? Laura?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this one is yet, so
Speaker 1: hit me with it. No. Look, we try to not
Speaker 1: tell each other because we want a response that's real
Speaker 1: and on the spot, completely uneducated and ill informed and unresearched.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what we're trying to bring to you today.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on hall passes? Can a relationship? Yeah? I know.
Speaker 2: Can a relationship be strong and long lasting if you
Speaker 2: involve hall passes in the relationship. We have spoken about it,
Speaker 2: and we think we should both have a hall pass
Speaker 2: with rules of course, annually or semi annually or just
Speaker 2: something because our relationship is great but it's never been
Speaker 2: mind blowing in bed.
Speaker 1: This is a question that was actually sent to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: word for word quote. Wow. Yeah, So long story short,
Speaker 1: sex isn't great, but they love each other. They think
Speaker 1: that they should be able to stray once or twice
Speaker 1: a year. What do you think about that? Okay? My
Speaker 1: question is are you going to get enough sexual gratification
Speaker 1: from having sex with a random person once or twice
Speaker 1: a year? Is that really going to profoundly impact your
Speaker 1: sexual relationship with your partner? That's a solid question, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have the answer for that because
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm not in a relationship that I have
Speaker 1: to worry about the mismatch there. But hey, daily Mail,
Speaker 1: take that one ahead. Wait to gloat over the top
Speaker 1: of somebody's really serious question as well. What a dickhead?
Speaker 1: I am back on track. Okay, So my question, that's
Speaker 1: that's my question is is is one or once or
Speaker 1: twice going to actually give you that gratification and be
Speaker 1: and be exciting enough that it's going to fulfill you
Speaker 1: and sustain you for the year that you have where
Speaker 1: you feel like you're mismatched. Is the mismatch in your
Speaker 1: sexual relationship because your partner has a lot of libido
Speaker 1: than you, or is it just that you're not putting
Speaker 1: the effort in, Because it sounds like if they're both unsatisfied,
Speaker 1: then they both need to step up to the plate
Speaker 1: and try a bit harder.
Speaker 2: I think both of them need to. She hasn't said,
Speaker 2: but I'm assuming they haven't sat down and had a
Speaker 2: serious chat because I think a lot of couples find
Speaker 2: it hard to admit to the other person that maybe
Speaker 2: they're not getting what they need.
Speaker 1: Yeah sexually, well, it can be a real blow to
Speaker 1: the ego to be told that that your partner is
Speaker 1: not happy with your sexual performance. It's one of those.
Speaker 2: Really tough conversations that has to be had, but no
Speaker 2: one has them. We avoid them like the plague. But
Speaker 2: if you're I mean, the next forty or fifty sixty
Speaker 2: years is a long time to be with somebody that
Speaker 2: a you're not happy with and b you're not comfortable
Speaker 2: with enough to sit down and have that conversation. So
Speaker 2: I think first of all, they need to talk to
Speaker 2: each other, and by the sounds of it, they both
Speaker 2: know that they're not happy in bed, So let's just
Speaker 2: say okay, what are you not happy with or what
Speaker 2: are you wanting or do you want to try something else?
Speaker 2: Or I think that they need to start there before
Speaker 2: they go hall passing.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I do not think that having a
Speaker 1: hall pass is going to be a healthy, long term
Speaker 1: solution to being unhappy sexually with your partner. To be fair, also,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna say I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: against it.
Speaker 2: If for that couple, if that works for them, great,
Speaker 2: if they're gonna have if that is actually going to
Speaker 2: allow them to have a really long lasting, happy relationship,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't see how it would.
Speaker 1: But I think if you're open in any relationship, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no rules to what the perfect relationship is
Speaker 1: and should be. Individuals are so different, do you know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's just trying to look at
Speaker 1: both sides. I do agree. I do think that like
Speaker 1: what what works for one person doesn't work for somebody else.
Speaker 1: And I do think that there's different strokes for different folks. Literally,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. However, watching The Bachelor too much, I
Speaker 1: know he put some innuendos in there, but I do
Speaker 1: think that that is a very slippery slope. For the
Speaker 1: majority of people. Having hall passes in your relationship is
Speaker 1: only going to complicate things more and it's going to
Speaker 1: create jealousy, it's going to create more insecurities. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: she says there's rules, but she hasn't said what, And
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume the rules are maybe I watched
Speaker 1: too many movies, but that you never speak about it,
Speaker 1: like you know, what happens at flight club stays at
Speaker 1: fight club. I don't think that having a hall pass
Speaker 1: is the healthy place to start. I really think that
Speaker 1: if they love each other and they're both sexual unsatisfied,
Speaker 1: then they can work towards you know, what is it
Speaker 1: that you like? What can I do for you? And
Speaker 1: really put effort into their relationship first before trying to
Speaker 1: find external means to fix a problem. Yeah. So basically
Speaker 1: she wants to know, do we think the relationship will
Speaker 1: still be strong and long lasting? It looks like you're
Speaker 1: going with no. I'm going with no.
Speaker 2: I am going to say long term no, But I
Speaker 2: do think give it a whirl.
Speaker 1: If you have the chat. I think chat to each
Speaker 1: other first, Go give it a whirl. Say you're going
Speaker 1: to do it once and see how you feel. Because
Speaker 1: you think, try it. You're saying go for it.
Speaker 2: I think try it, because why not if if it
Speaker 2: doesn't work?
Speaker 1: But what if jealousy sets in and then they're not
Speaker 1: able to overcome that, and then you're not with the
Speaker 1: right person and you've figured that out. Better to figure
Speaker 1: it out now than in five.
Speaker 2: Years time when you're married with a child and your
Speaker 2: husband still wants to go and sleep with people.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was really depressing. We just went from being
Speaker 1: so uplifting and taking time and focusing on what we
Speaker 1: can appreciate in life to hear well, I really wanted that.
Speaker 1: I really want to give this girl my honest opinion
Speaker 1: because she's in a shitty well. She's given her the
Speaker 1: worst opinions. We've given her two conflicting ones, and now
Speaker 1: she's back on the fence. I mean, what's wrong with
Speaker 1: trying it? Because I think that once you try it,
Speaker 1: you can't come back from there. So I think that
Speaker 1: there's so many other things that they need to do
Speaker 1: first in order to try and mediate this issue. They
Speaker 1: need to try and sexually get on the same page,
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe before they take this decision, go and
Speaker 1: see a counselor oh for sure, speak to a relationship
Speaker 1: counselor about what this actually looks like if they're going
Speaker 1: to go down this route, because there is no coming
Speaker 1: back from it once you have had a sexual relationship
Speaker 1: with somebody else outside of your own relationship. Do we
Speaker 1: have another question from ask guncut? We do.
Speaker 2: We actually have about two hundred and fifty questions, but
Speaker 2: I have picked one. Okay, Yeah, so there is this
Speaker 2: lovely girl.
Speaker 1: We will not be getting to all two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty today, but please keep them coming. Yeah, we are trying.
Speaker 2: There is a lovely girl who is in a relationship
Speaker 2: and his best friend has been hitting on her.
Speaker 1: And it was very subtle at the start. I saw
Speaker 1: this question. Come.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very subtle at the start, and she
Speaker 2: wasn't sure it was actually happening.
Speaker 1: And then it started. She's one hundred percent now. It
Speaker 1: started to become a lot more over. Yep.
Speaker 2: And it started to happen in front of the best
Speaker 2: friend as well, like the little passes and things. But
Speaker 2: he hasn't noticed. Other people are noticing.
Speaker 1: Girl. She doesn't know what to do. I have the
Speaker 1: easiest solution for you. You need to pull that guy aside.
Speaker 1: You need to pull your boyfriend's best friend aside and
Speaker 1: tell him you've noticed what he's doing. It's inappropriate and
Speaker 1: you would like him to stop. Otherwise you'll be telling
Speaker 1: your boyfriend. Well, that's the thing. Does she just tell
Speaker 1: the boyfriend though, or should she be keeping that? No? Look,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you want to go and just
Speaker 1: ruin your boyfriend's relationship with his best friend. Yes, the
Speaker 1: guy may be flirting, he hasn't done anything outwardly like,
Speaker 1: he's not done anything to a point that I think
Speaker 1: like had her against incriminating. Well, that's sexual assault, but
Speaker 1: he's not anything that's incriminating that's put her in a
Speaker 1: position where she feels incredibly uncomfortable. If he has done that,
Speaker 1: then I think go straight to your partner. But if
Speaker 1: you're only in a situation where it's becoming increasingly uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and increasingly obvious, chances are your boyfriend is going to
Speaker 1: notice sooner or later and to just nip it in
Speaker 1: the butt, I would go straight to the sauce and
Speaker 1: say you make me uncomfortable. I do not have feelings
Speaker 1: for you. I'm in love with my boyfriend. You need
Speaker 1: to stop, because I will be going and telling him
Speaker 1: that will be the next Yes, it's confrontational and no
Speaker 1: one's going to enjoy that, but if you're serious about
Speaker 1: wanting it to stop, and you're not feeding off the
Speaker 1: attention at all, you need to nip that in the butt,
Speaker 1: in the butter and the butt. I actually was just
Speaker 1: watching say that butt, and I wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: it's the butt, not in the but what in the butt? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I used actually say nipp it in the butt too too.
Speaker 1: My sister laughed in my face. Thanks for laughing in
Speaker 1: my face, Brittany. Yeah, I was going to tell you
Speaker 1: after the podcast, I'm glad you called yourself out on it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, I think you, guys, I think
Speaker 1: that this one is actually a really simple question to answer.
Speaker 2: I think you're right just go and tell him back
Speaker 2: the hell off because it's not cool. I also wonder
Speaker 2: if she obviously hasn't made it clear enough that she's
Speaker 2: not into it and that it's inappropriate, but.
Speaker 1: Totally keep doing it.
Speaker 2: That's actually a really common thing too, that women feel
Speaker 2: like they can't just say no to somebody and we
Speaker 2: feel bad for.
Speaker 1: Telling someone else to back off.
Speaker 2: But girls, if you're ever in a situation where you
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable like that. There is nothing wrong with being
Speaker 2: flat out rude sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right in that that. We are very
Speaker 1: cushy sometimes with how we deliver our disapproval with something.
Speaker 1: In this instance, the only way that she's going to
Speaker 1: get a successful outcome is being very assertive. I agree.
Speaker 1: So there you go. There you have it. I love
Speaker 1: it when we agree. Yeah. I love it when we
Speaker 1: don't fence it. I love it when you don't fence it.
Speaker 1: I try not to. No, Sometimes it's nice to be
Speaker 1: the voice of reason in this.
Speaker 2: I always wi look at a situation two sides before
Speaker 2: I make my opinion, and then I'll get there.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it takes me a bit.
Speaker 2: It just takes me a bit longer to get there
Speaker 2: sometimes because I want to view it from both sides.
Speaker 1: Have you thought about your suck and sweet I actually
Speaker 1: did for one. I waited. I don't know what my
Speaker 1: suck and swing is. Well, let me go first and
Speaker 1: you think about it head. So my suck this week
Speaker 1: was that I had a flight canceled yesterday. Her suck
Speaker 1: was my suck. I had a babysitter. We were going
Speaker 1: to record this podcast yesterday and then bridge flight got canceled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was Tiger Air. Shout out to Tiger Air.
Speaker 1: I'm never flying with you again because you just well
Speaker 1: you just do it all the time. Are you using
Speaker 1: our podcast to shit on Tiger Air? You know what
Speaker 1: they did?
Speaker 2: They emailed me at three am and said my flight
Speaker 2: was in the morning because we were coming back to
Speaker 2: record these podcasts. They email being said, sos dog, your
Speaker 2: flight's been canceled.
Speaker 1: Did they actually write so dog email? That's really impressive.
Speaker 1: I would be happy with it that. I embellished that.
Speaker 1: They said, sorry, missus Hockley, Miss sorry, my mistake.
Speaker 2: Sorry, miss Hockley, your flight has been canceled.
Speaker 1: But that was it.
Speaker 2: And they said here's a number to call later when
Speaker 2: you're away, because it's two.
Speaker 1: I am okay, So that is your suck. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty sucky suck, babe, My sweet was.
Speaker 2: I flew to the Gold Coast for the weekend with
Speaker 2: my family. I haven't seen my nephew and my mom
Speaker 2: and dad and my brother. It was just really awesome
Speaker 2: to get some quality family time. I'm so close to
Speaker 2: my family and I hadn't seen him in a long time,
Speaker 2: so I just feel a million dollars today.
Speaker 1: That's so nice. That was actually your sweet for last
Speaker 1: week because you pulled it forward because you were going
Speaker 1: to see them, and now you're sweet. Is that you
Speaker 1: actually saw that she's calling me out on the rules. No,
Speaker 1: I love it, No, I love it. I think it's
Speaker 1: so nice. I'm glad that you got to have weekend
Speaker 1: away with your family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we drank too much wine, but I think it's
Speaker 2: it was always gonna happen, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Look I mean, it's not a successful weekend without some
Speaker 1: wine drinking. I wouldn't know. I realized that I have
Speaker 1: not had more than two glasses of wine in over
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, isn't that insane? Birthday on Wednesday, Brittany.
Speaker 1: It is. It's Britney's birthday, the day that this podcast
Speaker 1: comes out. It's Britney's birthday today.
Speaker 2: That's actually funny because I was really going to keep
Speaker 2: that on the lowdown.
Speaker 1: But everybody wish Brittany a happy birthday today because it's
Speaker 1: her birthday. I just don't do birthdays. I even took
Speaker 1: my birthday off Facebook, like the announcements so that no one.
Speaker 1: You're so mysterious. No, I just don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Let's move along. But thank
Speaker 1: you for announcing that to Australia. That's so fun. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm here for, babe, just to make sure that
Speaker 1: the cutos gets given to you when you deserve it. Yep.
Speaker 1: So it is my birthday today, thank you? So my
Speaker 1: Can I start with my sweet you don't have to
Speaker 1: start with my role is a suck? Yeah? I feel
Speaker 1: like I've had a really good week, so great. Trying
Speaker 1: to think of a suck is a bit difficult, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to just throw something into the ring
Speaker 1: just for the sake of dwelling on something negative. I'm
Speaker 1: going to say, can be so trivial if that's the
Speaker 1: case totally. I'm going to say, just based on what
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier in this episode, this feeling
Speaker 1: of being I feel like I'm very busy at the moment,
Speaker 1: and I'm just busy for busy's sake. So I think
Speaker 1: next week I really need to just take some time
Speaker 1: to eliminate some things that aren't adding anything to my
Speaker 1: day and they're just noise and hustle, and be a
Speaker 1: bit calmer that we know, me happy, you're going to
Speaker 1: eliminate more cleaning. My sweet for this week has probably
Speaker 1: also contributed to my suck. So my sweet this week
Speaker 1: was that Matt and I actually had quite a social weekend,
Speaker 1: which was amazing because it's really hard for anyone who
Speaker 1: has a newborn baby. You would appreciate that it's really
Speaker 1: difficult to maintain any semblance of a social life. And
Speaker 1: this weekend, Matt and night we did dinner on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: or we did dinner on Friday night, Saturday night and
Speaker 1: Sunday night. We were really ambitious. Who are you? I
Speaker 1: am wild? Didn't Marsh me wrong? Did Mary go to
Speaker 1: all these dinners? Yeah? So we I think we just
Speaker 1: got a bit over excited. Marley has gotten into an
Speaker 1: amazing routine where I now know that I can put
Speaker 1: her in there in the carrier, I can take her
Speaker 1: to dinner and she's going to sleep for a certain period,
Speaker 1: and we've kind of just worked out a really good routine,
Speaker 1: which means that at the moment we're able to go
Speaker 1: for dinners and enjoy ourselves and bring her along and
Speaker 1: she sleeps. I know that this is going to be
Speaker 1: short lived, and I know this is just a phase
Speaker 1: so we're trying to make the absolute most of it
Speaker 1: at the moment while she's in this sleep sort of routine.
Speaker 1: So well, my suite is contributing to my suck. Yeah
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yes, fair.
Speaker 2: And while we're on the sinners that you went out
Speaker 2: twenty one times for dinner this week, do you have
Speaker 2: a recommendation for anyone? Did you eat anywhere that was
Speaker 2: amazing or by anyone?
Speaker 1: I mean me? You know you know that I am
Speaker 1: obsessed with Totty's. I knew you were going to say
Speaker 1: you were to Totti's. Totti's is this Italian restaurant. It's
Speaker 1: just down the road from us in Bondai, recessed. I
Speaker 1: also went to a really great for anyone who's vegan.
Speaker 1: I went to a really great vegan restaurant called Alibi,
Speaker 1: which is in the Ovolo Hotel in Wollemloo, and we
Speaker 1: did like a diggas thing that was Friday night. So
Speaker 1: I recommend that for anyone who's vegan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually love vegan food when someone makes it for me.
Speaker 2: When I make it for myself, I sit down sec
Speaker 2: a lattice leaf and a bean wrapped together, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why do people do this, but when I go to
Speaker 2: a vegan restaurant, I'm all over it.
Speaker 1: You're always amazed by the fact that you can actually
Speaker 1: make tasty, amazing meals. Yes, hands down. I thought this
Speaker 1: had just turned into an ad for the ovolo. We'll stop,
Speaker 1: We'll stop. Well, guys, you've made it this far, so
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: We hope that you got something out of this, maybe
Speaker 1: something insightful. Maybe we made you laugh, maybe you laughed
Speaker 1: at Brittany. Thank you for visiting again. Guys. We absolutely
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Speaker 1: and next week we actually have a very exciting guest
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