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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of March. My name is Zara Seidler,

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Speaker 1: and helping me make sense of today's news is Sam Kosloski.

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Speaker 1: Making news today, comments by a liberal senator.

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Speaker 2: A vaccine update, some good news about.

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Speaker 1: COVID restrictions in New South Wales.

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Speaker 2: And a breakdown of a new youth justice reform in

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Speaker 2: the NT. Here's today's daily digest.

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Speaker 1: Tasmanian MP Sue Hickey has used parliamentary privilege to allege

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Speaker 1: that Federal Liberal Senator Eric Abbetts said in a conversation

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Speaker 1: about Christian Porter quote, not to worry. The woman is

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Speaker 1: dead and the law will protect him. Abets allegedly followed

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Speaker 1: up by saying, as for that Higgins girl, and here

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Speaker 1: he was referring to Britney Higgins, the liberal staffer who

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Speaker 1: alleged rape anybody who is so disgustingly drunk, who would

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Speaker 1: sleep with anybody, could have slept with one of our

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Speaker 1: spies and put the security of our nation at risk.

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Speaker 1: Senator Abetts has denied the allegations.

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Speaker 2: Can you just quickly remind us what parliamentary privilege is?

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Speaker 1: Basically parliamentary privilege means that members of Parliament can speak

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Speaker 1: freely in the House and that they can't be sued

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Speaker 1: or prosecuted for anything they say in debate in the houses.

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Speaker 2: Health Department Secretary Brendan Murphy has said the government is

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Speaker 2: no longer relying on Astrosenka to deliver three point one

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Speaker 2: million doses from Europe. Appearing before Senate Estimates, Murphy said, quote,

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Speaker 2: Astrosenka have had a number of attempts to get shipments

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Speaker 2: released and they haven't been successful, attributing Australia's delayed rollout

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Speaker 2: to blocked imports from the EU. When questioned on the

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Speaker 2: government's initial goal of having four million Aussies vaccinated by

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Speaker 2: the end of March, Professor Murphy said, quote that was

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Speaker 2: patiently unachievable given that we didn't get those international doses.

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Speaker 1: If I was Sam, I would say that this story

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Speaker 1: is out of this world. But NASA has announced it

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Speaker 1: is planning for the Ingenuity Mars helicopter to make the

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Speaker 1: first attempt a powered controlled flight of an aircraft on

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Speaker 1: another planet next month. Announcing the flight, Lauri Glaze, who's

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Speaker 1: the director of NASA's Planetary Science Divisions, said, aptly named

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Speaker 1: Ingenuity is a technology demonstration that aims to be the

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Speaker 1: first powered flight on another world and if successful, could

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Speaker 1: further expand our horizons and broaden the scope of what

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Speaker 1: is possible in Mars exploration.

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Speaker 2: You're really rocketed through that story. Here is today's good news,

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Speaker 2: and as an Avid house party lover, I'm particularly pumped.

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Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Gladsberry Jiclin has announced a significant

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Speaker 2: easing of COVID nineteen restrictions from March twenty nine, which

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Speaker 2: is Monday. Masks are no longer acquired on public transport,

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Speaker 2: while caps on sporting events, entertainment venues and home visitors

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Speaker 2: are being lifted. For home gatherings like mine, over one

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Speaker 2: hundred people a COVID nineteen safety plan is required and

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Speaker 2: two hundred people are allowed at personal outdoor gatherings.

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Speaker 1: So you only have one hundred friends.

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Speaker 2: You didn't make the cut. These changes come after New

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Speaker 2: South Wales has reported just two cases of COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: community transmission in the past two months.

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Speaker 1: For today's big issue, we're going to talk about youth

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Speaker 1: justice in the Northern Territory. Today we're announcing a new

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Speaker 1: suite of measures.

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Speaker 2: That will help make the Territorians say, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of these are common sense things.

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Speaker 1: So that was the voice of Michael Gunner, who is

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Speaker 1: the Chief Minister of the Northern Territory, and he was

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Speaker 1: announcing a raft of reforms for youth justice in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory. To take a step back for a moment,

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Speaker 1: chief minister is the same as a premier is to

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Speaker 1: a state, so he is the leader of the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: Labor is in power in a Northern territory. They won

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Speaker 1: at the twenty twenty election. And the opposition in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory is the Country Liberal Party or the COLP.

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Speaker 1: So now that we have the key people out of

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Speaker 1: the way, it's important to talk about what some of

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Speaker 1: the key issues in the Northern Territory are. And one

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Speaker 1: of the big issues is crime. It continues to be

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Speaker 1: a significant electoral issue and there's also been Royal commissions

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Speaker 1: conducted in the Northern Territory around this issue.

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Speaker 2: We know that all the states and territories have pretty

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Speaker 2: different criminal justice systems. Why are we talking about Northern

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Speaker 2: Territory today?

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the Northern Territory because Labor on

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Speaker 1: Monday proposed some significant changes to the Bail Act and

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Speaker 1: the Youth Justice Act, and the idea behind this, according

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Speaker 1: to the Chief Minister, was to create tougher than ever consequences,

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Speaker 1: particularly around the breach of bail. And the biggest change

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Speaker 1: is the idea of making the revocation of bail automatic

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Speaker 1: in the case of a serious breach.

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Speaker 2: So to break down some of that legal chat, the

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Speaker 2: revocation of bail pretty much means that if you commit

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Speaker 2: a serious crime, you're not going to be able to

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Speaker 2: get bail. You won't have the opportunity to apply for bail,

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Speaker 2: for a judge to look at your bail application and

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Speaker 2: for you to be let out on bail.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so Michael Gunner actually said, and I quote bail

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Speaker 1: is a privilege, not a righte And the Government has

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Speaker 1: classified a serious breach, which is the case in which

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Speaker 1: bail can be revoked as a any reoffending while on bail,

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Speaker 1: b the breach of a certain electronic monitoring condition and curfew,

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Speaker 1: or see a failure to attend court or to complete

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Speaker 1: youth diversion. Additionally, juveniles who commit a range of offenses

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Speaker 1: including break and enter an unlawful use of a motor

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Speaker 1: vehicle will face court with a presumption against bail, which

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Speaker 1: is not currently the case.

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Speaker 2: Again, so that means that so having.

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Speaker 1: My pocket little lawyer here next to me.

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Speaker 2: That I'm glad a five year degree ended in that

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Speaker 2: That basically means that as soon as the person who's

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Speaker 2: been charged walks up to the judge, the judge's default

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Speaker 2: setting is to not grant bail. Our criminal justice system

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Speaker 2: works on the key notion of the presumption of innocence

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Speaker 2: and this would arguably be challenging some of the aspects

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Speaker 2: of that notion.

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Speaker 1: So the Chief Minister has said that these proposed reforms

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Speaker 1: are the result of the government listening to the community's

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Speaker 1: concerns as well as the advice of the police, but

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Speaker 1: not everyone agrees. Amnesty International Australia called the proposal callous

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Speaker 1: racist legislative crackdown in search of a problem, while the

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Speaker 1: anti general manager of a Jesuit service said the outcome

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Speaker 1: of this posturing to appear tough on crime will only

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Speaker 1: result in vulnerable children being exposed to the youth detention system,

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Speaker 1: which means they are more likely to re offend than

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Speaker 1: children who are supported in the community instead. In proposing

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Speaker 1: these changes, the Police Commissioner said that last year there

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Speaker 1: were seven hundred and forty one individual juvenile offenders who

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Speaker 1: between them were charged with six thousand, three hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety nine offenses.

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Speaker 2: This debate in the NT has highlighted the tension between

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Speaker 2: rehabilitation and locking people up incarceration. There's always going to

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Speaker 2: be a tension between those two because if you're a

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Speaker 2: government that's seemed to be in favor of rehabilitation as

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Speaker 2: an option. So let's say instead of this bail proposal

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Speaker 2: we've talked about today, there was a new proposal that

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Speaker 2: all young offenders would be diverted into a mandatory education program.

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Speaker 2: You run the risk of being seen by the voting

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Speaker 2: community as being soft on crime. This has always been

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Speaker 2: the big tension here. Some people view these reforms by

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Speaker 2: the anti Chief Minister as the opposite, as a tough

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Speaker 2: on crime response. And we're really going to only be

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Speaker 2: able to tell whether it was the right decision politically

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Speaker 2: at the next election.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, that is all we have time

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Speaker 1: for today. But in the meantime, follow the day's news

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