WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Blow job etiquette

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated.

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<v Speaker 2>We pay our respects to their elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 3>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 3>recorded on Drug wallamut Land. Hi, guys, and welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to another episode of Live on Cut. I'm Laura and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm prody.

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<v Speaker 2>Sakisha feeling in for brit while she is in the jungle.

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<v Speaker 3>Hasn't yet eaten a testicule. I'm very sad about it. Devastated.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been quiet, she's been reserved. The real Britney's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she just doesn't want to come in there

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<v Speaker 3>and just like let it all hang out. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like week two stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel as though we overshare too much on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's a rhetorical question because the answer

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<v Speaker 3>to that is so obviously yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not mad about it. But the answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason I ask is because last night on

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Tristan who brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially, he said he was pooh Shi and he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that he and his partner would never pooh in front

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<v Speaker 1>of each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have an admission.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I said I was gonna watch every single episode, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're episode three and I didn't watch last night because

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<v Speaker 3>very good reason.

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<v Speaker 4>I was out for my birthday. So you have to

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<v Speaker 4>tell me what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan essentially ended up asking the entire crew in the

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<v Speaker 1>jungle like this question of do you pooh in front.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your partner? And Ellie Cole brought up that the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>To that question just gives you so much insight into

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<v Speaker 1>someone's relationship, and I tend to agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you're asking the deep and hard hitting

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<v Speaker 2>questions today on ask on cars so early? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at now?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you or do you not? I mean, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>all know that I don't care. We've spoken about that before.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna like physically sit there and be like, hey, honey,

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<v Speaker 3>come in whilst I do a pooh. But like, if

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<v Speaker 3>Matt has to come in and get something, he'll just

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<v Speaker 3>walk in, open the door, walk straight in, get whatever

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<v Speaker 3>he needs, and walk out.

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<v Speaker 4>He won't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that doesn't raise it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I'll say, get out, get out and

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<v Speaker 3>fagn like I'm really offended, but I don't actually care.

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<v Speaker 3>I do the obligatory like, oh, get out, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he does the same to me. But if I was

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<v Speaker 3>to actually stand in there and try and have a

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<v Speaker 3>chat to him, he'd be like, get out, okay, then

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<v Speaker 3>he'd answer my question. He's not He's not holding onto

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<v Speaker 3>the resentment of the fact that I'll walk in whilst

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing a pooh and vice versa. Doesn't touch the

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<v Speaker 3>sides of what exactly the ball of the human who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like hearing that story makes my small

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<v Speaker 1>intestine kind of clench, like it's sucking it all back in. Potentially, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm in this situation where my boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree on this. I am very much a

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<v Speaker 1>no no privacy. When it's I don't mind a Wii,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, But as soon as it's more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's like possibly more than that, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>solo experience for me. He doesn't feel the same. He's

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<v Speaker 1>more than comfortable to have the door open. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mind telling me about it. He talks about it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and frankly, it growses me up.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have only just moved in together, so you

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<v Speaker 3>are on a downward spiral.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're already there, you're fucked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm getting from this, Like you are really

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<v Speaker 3>heading in a few weeks time. He's going to just

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<v Speaker 3>be doing it in the middle of the lounge room

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<v Speaker 3>because they should, don't the lad literally making eye contact

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>That would send me to another planet.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been an astral plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't know how you reach a happy medium

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation. I feel as though he is gradually

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<v Speaker 1>wearing me down, like he's trying to send the layers

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<v Speaker 1>down of me caring about this because he first moved

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<v Speaker 1>in together, I like kicked off about it, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't kick off, but I always I'm like, come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, like, have some respects. See that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You feign a bit of like you can stop, get out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fainting. I'm just picking which battles I want

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<v Speaker 2>to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I do want to fight that battle, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to fight it so many times and nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>changed that I'm kind of like, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this worth you know? How dare he disrespect you

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<v Speaker 4>like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a fuck you? How dare he not listen

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<v Speaker 2>to your boundaries?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean we've spoken about I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation goes roun and so. Because we've spoken about

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's okay to fun friend your partners whatever, people

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<v Speaker 3>are very black and white, Pulling in front of your

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<v Speaker 3>partner is a whole other level that I think most

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<v Speaker 3>people don't achieve. But I agree with Ellie Cole. It

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<v Speaker 3>says a lot about your relationship. It says a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about your how comfortable you are with someone if you

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<v Speaker 3>can just duck into the bathroom, regardless of where they're

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<v Speaker 3>at in their bathroom experience, and go and get something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that there's many people out there who

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<v Speaker 3>are intentionally doing it in front of each other. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I think is that for some people, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a limitation of entering a room just to quickly do something.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you're gonna quickly go and get something from

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<v Speaker 3>the bathroom, Like if I need deodorant, I'm gonna open

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<v Speaker 3>the door and go in and.

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<v Speaker 4>Get it, and that would be like, oh, get out,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's pretty much the extent of it, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's really funny to like think about how

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<v Speaker 1>much our standards change.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've came by that in front of him, which

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<v Speaker 3>means that, like, you know, things have happened. That door

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<v Speaker 3>was already opened. Okay, so you know there's no coming

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<v Speaker 3>back from that. So whatever, it's only fair that he

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<v Speaker 3>does it in front of me too. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>that if these are the types of conversations that they're

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<v Speaker 3>already having in the jungle on night three, this is

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<v Speaker 3>an indication that people, like a group of people who

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<v Speaker 3>have spent too much time together.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media gets such a bad rap. Everyone's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>spend too much time on our phone. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you don't have a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a TV to watch it. Can you start asking

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<v Speaker 2>each other if you shit in front of each other?

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just bored. Yeah, anyway, we've spoken about this for

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<v Speaker 2>too long.

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<v Speaker 3>We have, We really have. I haven't admission to make.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's going to care about this. It's not even admission.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I want to clear something up. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to the podcast in think it might have

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<v Speaker 3>been January, could have even been December or so long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and we at some point went down a rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 3>about this thing on my arm. All right, your fung guy,

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<v Speaker 3>my fun guy that just comes around with me. And

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<v Speaker 3>Britt was like, yeah, that's a fungal infection. Three months,

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<v Speaker 3>three months, I've used fungal cream on this thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>three months the fungle cream did nothing. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>most like defungled part of anyone's body that's ever existed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking twice a day fungal cream, right, Just to

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<v Speaker 3>give a bit of a pitch, because you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>is an.

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<v Speaker 5>It is everybody unless you're joining us on YouTube, which

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<v Speaker 5>right there, it kind of looks like a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of discoloration just in patches, like just a couple patches.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few shades darker, which is different to most

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<v Speaker 1>of the fungal infections because usually they go white, don't

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<v Speaker 1>they They usually go lighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean some people it grows darker as well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>But like basically, there's a there's a fungal infection that

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<v Speaker 3>people get on their skin, which if you spend a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time in the sun or in the ocean

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<v Speaker 3>or in chloring pools, it's more prevalent and it's called

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<v Speaker 3>tinya versicola. So anyway, Brittany, being the medical person that

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<v Speaker 3>she is, she was like, that's a fungal thing, Laura,

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<v Speaker 3>go and get some fungal crepit. Anyway, three fucking months

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<v Speaker 3>and me waiting to get into a dermatologist because the

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<v Speaker 3>lines for a dermatologist are unreasonably long. Unreasonably long, don't

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<v Speaker 3>even get me sounded about psychiatrists. So I wild, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I went yesterday and I sat down. I was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>like this fungus is just getting bigger and it's been

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<v Speaker 3>here for so long now.

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<v Speaker 4>And she just looked at me and she was like, sweet,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not fungus. What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just pigmentation because I'm getting old. So you've been

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<v Speaker 2>trying to treat it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been trying to treat something for three months and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even what no wonder that it wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's not even that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I just want to set the record straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that there's anything wrong with having a fungus, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have one. And I've been telling everyone that

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<v Speaker 3>I did and that I'm trying to get rid of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing was working. And now I make it worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well potentially because it is has been getting progressively worse,

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<v Speaker 3>but actually, no, it's not that anyone cares talking about oversharing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a dermatitis thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then once it heals, the hyperpigmentation of it from

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<v Speaker 3>where it's healed, so it's like kind of tiny little

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<v Speaker 3>abrasions in the skin. And then once that has healed,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes the skin darker because it's like a reaction

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<v Speaker 3>to being traumatized, which is what I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks, Brittany. Thanks for nothing is what I had

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 1>When the internal stress ends up coming out like external

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<v Speaker 1>in your bodytally starts breeding all over your arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you're getting that sortied.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. How was your experience of the dermatoegist fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I also walked in and it was the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>medical office.

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<v Speaker 4>It had a view of the entire city.

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<v Speaker 3>The Harbor Bridge, all of BONDI like, I'm talking like

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<v Speaker 3>a three sixty view in this dermatologists office, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, it makes sense now.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, it makes sense. We're all in the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong job.

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<v Speaker 3>Three months to get in here, and this is what

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<v Speaker 3>you guys like living in a palace.

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder dermatologists have a little bit of a reputation

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<v Speaker 1>of being a little bit batty, do they.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm so sorry to all the dermatologists listening to this.

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<v Speaker 3>You also deserve to have that view. You study very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of there are certain personality traits that different

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<v Speaker 1>specialties of doctors seem to have. Like it's a stereotype,

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<v Speaker 1>but stereotypes exist for a reason. A lot of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>my dermatologist absolutely love.

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<v Speaker 4>Her a little bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But also this is like cardiothoracic surgeons narcissists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, surgery in particular a little bit of a god

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<v Speaker 1>complex narcissism kind of element to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to unprofile you all, and to all of the

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<v Speaker 3>dermatologists and cardiothracic surgeons who listened to this podcast. Also

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<v Speaker 3>they're not listening to Life on caut We're two bass anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, guys, we're here to answer all you're deep,

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<v Speaker 3>you're dark, and you're burning questions today. But before we

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<v Speaker 3>do that, I wanted to remind you guys, if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen it yet, yesterday we released an episode with

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<v Speaker 3>tones and I and I know I often say like

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of my favorite episodes. But I genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>think that this episode that we released yesterday is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best ones that we have done this year.

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<v Speaker 3>It is possibly one of the best ones we have

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<v Speaker 3>ever done. And the reason for that is because so

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<v Speaker 3>tones and I has never she has never ever, ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Done a long form interview before.

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<v Speaker 3>She's only ever done like short sporading interviews with radio

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<v Speaker 3>and with media where you get like little bite side

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<v Speaker 3>sound grabs talking about her music. This is the first

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<v Speaker 3>time she's ever opened up around what she experienced in

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<v Speaker 3>her coming to fame, how the media treated her, the

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<v Speaker 3>reasons why she has turned her back on doing any

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<v Speaker 3>sort of long form interviews and talking about herself.

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<v Speaker 4>But she also talks so openly.

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<v Speaker 3>About her childhood, why she got into music, her relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was an incredible interview, Like she had everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in the room in tears at one point. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just think for someone who has been so incredibly successful,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, dance Monkey is one of the most downloaded songs, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many billion streams.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the first female artist to reach three billion

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<v Speaker 1>streams on Spotify and it's been streamed over ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>times now.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the thing she says, She's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so that you understand the magnitude of what Tones and

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<v Speaker 3>I achieved with Dance Monkey, And she says it in

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<v Speaker 3>the interview, nobody has ever done that. And I'm talking like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're Taylor Swifts, You're Beyonces, your Ariana Grande is like

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<v Speaker 3>some of the biggest celebrities, musical celebrities have not achieved

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<v Speaker 3>what she achieved with that song. And she talks about

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<v Speaker 3>like how that's impacted her, how that's like changed the

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<v Speaker 3>trajectory of her career, but also so much about her

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerability came from her talking about not looking the way

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<v Speaker 3>in which society perceives a pop star to look or

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<v Speaker 3>to be, and how she has been so deeply ridiculed

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<v Speaker 3>for that throughout her career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Laurie, you're not alone in saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got so many comments in the Facebook group on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting a lot of messages people just saying, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I just loved this chat.

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<v Speaker 2>She just embodies authenticity. I think she's awesome. I really

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<v Speaker 2>like this new version of her that we're getting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, when she's sort of like, I never really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to tell my story before and then she just comes

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<v Speaker 3>out of the gates telling her entire story.

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<v Speaker 4>We were so blown away.

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<v Speaker 3>But that came off the back of she came to

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<v Speaker 3>the live shows in Melbourne, and it was so serendipitous

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<v Speaker 3>how that all happened, Like if you guys came to

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<v Speaker 3>the live show, you would know. But for anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there in Melbourne that night, we were supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>have Flex Mummy come and be part of the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and very last minute she canceled due to her own

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<v Speaker 3>personal reasons because she had things going on, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were like panic stations at that point in time. Britta

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<v Speaker 3>and I were like, fuck, fuck, we've had it, Like

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<v Speaker 3>how are we going to feel this space?

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<v Speaker 4>What are we gonna do now?

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<v Speaker 3>Especially because we've been pre promoting what the chats we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be. And then because of a relationship that Mitch

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<v Speaker 3>Chure has with Tones and I, he sends his text

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<v Speaker 3>message this one day and this is like the day

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<v Speaker 3>before and he was like, I think I might have

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<v Speaker 3>Tones she might want to come and do a chat

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<v Speaker 3>on stage, And we were so unsure whether it was

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<v Speaker 3>actually going to come into fruition, Like we had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea whether she was going to even come and be

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<v Speaker 3>there backstage, and then lo and behold the night of

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<v Speaker 3>we get there and then in the green room she's

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<v Speaker 3>just sitting there with all of her people, pop and champagne,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were like, Okay, this is happening. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the surrealest thing, and you know, in terms, she just

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<v Speaker 3>did it purely because of a friendship with Mitch. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we have been so lucky to build a friendship

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<v Speaker 3>with her as well and be having these kind of

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing conversations and it was just like sitting down for

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<v Speaker 3>a chat with a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most special thing about that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that she has a friendship with Mitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Is because of how badly she was treated.

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<v Speaker 1>By the media, and you know, people just made up

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<v Speaker 1>stories about her because she didn't want to rebut them.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to involve herself because she had some

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem issues and I wouldn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Say issues like they were kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Forced upon her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's really beautiful she came to that

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<v Speaker 1>live show because she met Mitch through radio, loved Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>trusts him, and then trusted you guys. And I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell from listening to that interviewers in the room. There

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<v Speaker 1>was such an element that she felt with you and

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<v Speaker 1>Britt was a safe space to share and with our

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<v Speaker 1>audience as well. Like she received so much feedback from

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<v Speaker 1>the live show in Melbourne that she was like, oh, these.

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<v Speaker 2>People get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, she said, you're all a cult and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here for it, a little life uncut cult. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>go and listen to that. It's out now, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was yesterday's episode and it's fucking amazing. Yeah subscribed, Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a vibe full transparency. It is a brand

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm currently working with. So I'm currently working with

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<v Speaker 3>Target and we are across the podcast. But even more transparency.

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<v Speaker 3>When they came on board as a sponsor, it had

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<v Speaker 3>been a long time since I had walked through and

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<v Speaker 3>I will get home works from Target, I will get

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<v Speaker 3>bits and pieces from there, but neba ebba, had I walked.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the clothing sect of Target, I'll get things for

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<v Speaker 2>the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never have looked for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this instance, there was like the recommendation that

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<v Speaker 3>I should just go and have a look online and

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<v Speaker 3>see what I could find myself.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you, okay, I'm wearing it. Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're watching YouTube, you'll see it. But if you're not,

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<v Speaker 3>then you won't care. But they had this like Skims

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<v Speaker 3>ripoff range. They have a body like a crop top,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you call it, a boot chewed top,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm wearing today. They also have a body suit

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<v Speaker 3>and it's this like very soft buttery material. They're so

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<v Speaker 3>cheap and I now have them in every color that

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<v Speaker 3>they come in and every style that they come in,

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<v Speaker 3>the boot tube and also the full body, and they

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<v Speaker 3>are amazing. They are my recommendations. They are like the

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<v Speaker 3>little gold dust that I found at.

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<v Speaker 4>The bottom of the pans.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my recommendation if you are into or wanting

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<v Speaker 3>like a very good body suit that looks great under

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<v Speaker 3>jeans that you can style it casually.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can second this recommendation because I actually have the

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<v Speaker 1>dress version and it's very soft and it's very nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw it trending on TikTok as like a

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<v Speaker 1>genuine replica of the Skims one, except it was I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was less than a third of the price.

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<v Speaker 1>So with you on those my recommendation for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on my Woo Woo bullshit.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this recommendation from the Facebook group, the Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut discussion group is where I get every recommendation from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called a shak Ti mat. Okay, oh, not here

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<v Speaker 2>for it. They say it's based off of.

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<v Speaker 1>The ancient wisdoms from India and it's all to do

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<v Speaker 1>with acupressure. Do you remember seeing like pictures of nail beds,

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<v Speaker 1>like the wooden planks with native stick up right and people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the og accupuncture before they knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to make it specific. These shacked ti mats are

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<v Speaker 1>like a I guess they're like a plastic spiked mat

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea is that you lay on it and

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to lay on it for like ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like literal torture. Well this is the thing, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So they say it like increases circulation, it can improve

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep, which I'm obsessed with obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, I'm gonna give this a go.

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<v Speaker 1>And years and years and years ago, I was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>with anxiety. Last October I was diagnosed with ADHD. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>now medicated for both of those things, and I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>trying to work on things that are just not medicinal,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm really trying to do this from a multi

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<v Speaker 1>pronged approach. Right, So, I've been talking about my ice

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<v Speaker 1>baths and shacked imats to me kind of fall into

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<v Speaker 1>the same category where I'm trying to train my brain

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<v Speaker 1>that when I'm in uncomfortable situations.

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<v Speaker 2>I can handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to kind of increase my mental resilience in

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to reduce my anxiety or how I like

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<v Speaker 1>react when I feel anxious in a normal environment.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the idea is that if I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation that's uncomfortable, I can sit in that discomfort and

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<v Speaker 1>I can kind of like work my way through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is me getting a little away. The shaked

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<v Speaker 2>timat is my next edition.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this scause.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a difference though, between like mental discomfort and

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<v Speaker 3>physical discomfort, because I feel like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>can internalize physical discomfort, but mental discomfort is a completely

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<v Speaker 3>different kettle of fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm trying to I'm trying to merge

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<v Speaker 1>the two because when you have something like anxiety, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels physical, like it really feels like it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, my body is reacting disproportionately to my environment.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, it's something that I'm like, I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel as though.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really making progress. And I don't know whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the medication. I don't know whether it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The more like alternative practices. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of all of them. But I've been laying

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<v Speaker 1>on my Shrukti Matt. I will admit it's pretty fucking

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable to begin with. They do have beginner's versions, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're relatively expensive. I know you can get cheaper versions

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<v Speaker 1>from like Ali and all these other places, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just went for the real branded one. It hurts like

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<v Speaker 1>you lay on it, and it really takes that mental resilience,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. And I'm trying to do ten minutes every night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting to the point where like I'm achieving it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not finding it as difficult as what I previously was.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's how I feel about pilates.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time I'm on a pilate's reform machine, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>why am I doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm wishing every minute away.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of the pilates, is one of

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<v Speaker 3>those taboo things that you're not allowed to say that

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<v Speaker 3>you hate, Like, I don't enjoy it, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>it because I know it's good for me.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds like a shocked he mat it kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the idea is that you're meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit uncomfortable and then you're meant to push

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<v Speaker 1>through the discomfort. So not for everyone, absolutely get that,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you would like to, I don't know, torture

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<v Speaker 1>say I reckon it helps with sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it does or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that's the type of thing that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to challenge yourself with at the moment, I recommend the

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<v Speaker 1>shocked he mat.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into answering your questions, all right. Question number one.

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<v Speaker 3>My boyfriend he's thirty one and I'm twenty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 3>and we started dating in June last year. We made

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<v Speaker 3>it official at the end of July. Since the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been really happy. We both are super committed to

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<v Speaker 3>our relationship and each other. We communicate really well, and

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<v Speaker 3>he shows me every day how much he loves me.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly thought I had found my penguam just so

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<v Speaker 3>you guys don't have to do the maths.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been together now for nine months.

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<v Speaker 3>However, I have just found out he cheated on me

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<v Speaker 3>two times, just when our relationships started. He cheated on

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<v Speaker 3>me with a girl he met back in June. She

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<v Speaker 3>was away in Europe for a bit, so when we

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<v Speaker 3>started our relationship she wasn't around, but they were still texting.

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<v Speaker 3>When she was back, they met up two times and

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<v Speaker 3>had sex. This was one week and two months after

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<v Speaker 3>we made it official. So actually, when I read this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually going to backtrack a bit. So they started

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<v Speaker 3>dating in June, which was when she left, so she

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<v Speaker 3>must have been away for a while, so this has

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<v Speaker 3>obviously happened sort of around like I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say they've been together for maybe six months since he cheated, right,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going to do the maths working backwards.

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<v Speaker 4>Month math, Yeah, it's been about six.

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<v Speaker 3>Months since the cheating happened, but they've known each other

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<v Speaker 3>for nine months total. All of this came out because

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<v Speaker 3>the girl reached out to me to tell me everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I confronted him and he felt really guilty and owned

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<v Speaker 3>his mistakes. He said it absolutely didn't mean anything to him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was lost and scared, and he said he could

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<v Speaker 3>never do that to me. Now, because we're in such

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<v Speaker 3>a different stage of our relationship, I can see how

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<v Speaker 3>our relationship has changed in the past four months. He

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<v Speaker 3>says he has changed and did the inner work after cheating.

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<v Speaker 3>My question is how bad are the red flags? I

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<v Speaker 3>know you can recover from cheating, but can you when

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<v Speaker 3>you started the relationship and fell in love when the

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<v Speaker 3>person was cheating on you. I think I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to make this work and give him another chance.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a lot time back here.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I want to say is when you

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<v Speaker 3>say he's changed a lot in four months, four months

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<v Speaker 3>is not a long.

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<v Speaker 4>Period of time. None of this has happened over a

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<v Speaker 4>long period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Firstly, yeah, I mean, there's the obvious things to point

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<v Speaker 1>out of the fact that he cheated on you and

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<v Speaker 1>he thought he'd get away with it, and so him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, changing in the past four months. You weren't

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<v Speaker 1>really aware of why he changed. You weren't aware of

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<v Speaker 1>why he became more committed to you. But it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>because he was living with a bit of guilt about

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened. I actually do question this a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time in this scenarios like would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>know or would you rather have never found this information out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this has fundamentally changed your relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Now like moving forward from here, you can't go back.

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<v Speaker 1>You have said that you want to make this work

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<v Speaker 1>and give him another chance, And I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>when I was initially listening to you read this question,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, this guy's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's done you dirty, and you've built a relationship off

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<v Speaker 1>of a foundation that doesn't actually exist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reality is are different because he's done this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's broken the trust down.

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<v Speaker 2>But you are right, people can move on from cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to really make this work and

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<v Speaker 1>give him another chance, I have to respect your decision

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I think you need to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to kind of work out whether you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to get over this. There will

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<v Speaker 1>very obviously be things that you need to address in

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship because the trust has been broken retroactively.

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<v Speaker 2>But if this is the type of thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>think you are not.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be able to completely get over and it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to plant such a seed of doubt in

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing that he does from now on, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to feel the need to go through his phone,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to feel the need to be with him

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<v Speaker 1>when he's out, rather than him being able to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and do his own thing and be independent.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be able to get over those things, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that you're going to be able to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward in the relationship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a really tricky one answering this. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 3>I think do people cheat in the early stages of relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>and can the relationship then evolve and you be in

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<v Speaker 3>a completely different place. Yes, that's a possibility, right. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a possibility that he kind of made a commitment

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<v Speaker 3>to you. You guys have had the conversation. He was like, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all locked in. This girl came back. It was like,

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, you guys have only been dating for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months, and he was like, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>actually as committed as maybe I verbally said I was,

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<v Speaker 3>and he cheated on you, and now he actually does

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<v Speaker 3>feel more in love with you and more committed in

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<v Speaker 3>the relationship. Those things are possibilities. My question, though, is

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<v Speaker 3>you say how much of a red flag is this?

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<v Speaker 3>I would still say it's a very big red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally wouldn't want to be in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who had made a commitment to me and yet

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<v Speaker 3>that entire time was still texting another girl who was overseas,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when she came back, decided he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>try it out and fuck her, Like that's what happened here.

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 3>He was texting her the whole time, he stayed in

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<v Speaker 3>contact with her. He committed to you because you were

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing that was available here, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>she came back, he still tested the waters there and

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<v Speaker 3>then passing it off as being I was scared and

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<v Speaker 3>confused and unsure what where was he in the dark,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what was he scared about? Like I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>we can try and explain and reason away and justified

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 3>cheating when really it was just a very and like

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<v Speaker 3>I know that this kind of contradicts some of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that when we've had the psychologists on board and

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 3>they've said that there's always a root cause of cheating.

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 3>I think there is always a root cause of cheating

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<v Speaker 3>in long term relationships, but in new relationships there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a root cause. That is a condition of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually a condition of selfishness. It's a condition of

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<v Speaker 3>lack of investment or lack of commitment. But I think

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 3>if you've verbally made that commitment, then you owe it

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<v Speaker 3>to the person to treat them in the way that

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 3>you would in a committed relationship. Doesn't matter if you're

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<v Speaker 3>at the one month mark, the six month mark, or

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<v Speaker 3>the one year mark. You've made that commitment to put

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<v Speaker 3>your energy and effort into the person that you're dating

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<v Speaker 3>and that you're exclusive with. Otherwise, what the fuck was

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<v Speaker 3>the point of having that conversation around exclusivity if he

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<v Speaker 3>was still in that time messaging a girl who was overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's because he was scared of losing

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<v Speaker 1>the person who's written the question in this is such

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<v Speaker 1>a clear case. If he wanted to have his cake

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<v Speaker 1>and eat it too, and he did have his cake

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<v Speaker 1>and eat it.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, and he got away with it, But the only

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 3>reason why he didn't get away with it was because

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>this person who obviously felt cheated as well, She obviously

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 3>felt hard done by, She obviously felt like she had

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<v Speaker 3>been lied to, was overseas traveling, was in contact with

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<v Speaker 3>this guy this whole time, came back, reignited something, and

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<v Speaker 3>then realized that he was living these two alternate lives

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<v Speaker 3>that suited him while there was a girl that was

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<v Speaker 3>overseas and he could get away with it. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>the bigger thing here is that I think that this

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<v Speaker 3>is an indication of a character.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an indication of the type.

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<v Speaker 3>Of person that he is that he could so easily

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<v Speaker 3>switch between the two. Does that mean that he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to move forward in a relationship and ever be

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<v Speaker 3>monogamous or committed. No, of course it doesn't. He very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you know now that he's made his decision and

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<v Speaker 3>now that you guys are nine months into your relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>it may be different. And I think the bigger question

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 3>it's what you posed keish, but coming back to it

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 3>is can you get over it?

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<v Speaker 4>Because they're two very different things. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can get over the lying and the lack

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<v Speaker 3>of commitment and all those sorts of things and the mismatch,

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 3>then yeah, sure, you guys can forge forward in this relationship.

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But if it's going to be something that is going

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<v Speaker 3>to rear its head constantly, that's going to make you

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 3>feel as though you can't trust him, then unfortunately that's

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 3>going to do a lot of damage here. But the

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<v Speaker 3>two questions that you've posed is is this a red flag?

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, absolutely, I'm not saying that you need

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 3>to throw your relationship away, and you've made it really,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 3>really clear, you know, I think I really want to

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 3>make this work and give him another chance. So I

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 3>don't want to sit here and say, well you should

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 3>break up, like you know, this guy's a flog. I

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 3>think you treated you badly, And I think you can

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 3>have someone say to you that they're very sorry, they've

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 3>done the work and that you know they were scared

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 3>and it was a hard time. Whatever the fucking bullshit

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 3>they want to say. You can listen to that and

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 3>you can have empathy for them because you're a good

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 3>person and you want to believe the things that are

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 3>being said to you, and I understand why. But I

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>also think don't lack critical thinking around the way that

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 3>you were treated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that actually brings up another question of whether

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you believe people can fundamentally change, and that's a really

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>personal thing.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 2>There's a saying once a.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Cheater, always a cheater, and a lot of people do

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 1>feel that way, Yeah, but I don't.

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I agree with that.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've cheated in past relationships, and I never

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>ever ever would cheat on Matt, Like never, in my

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 3>wildest dreams. It wouldn't matter what happened in our life

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 3>or in our scenario, I would never ever cheat on him.

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>If it's there though, this girl is in the same relationship. Yeah,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So like, is it once a cheater in that relationship,

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.719
<v Speaker 1>lays a cheater in that relationship, or is it a

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.239
<v Speaker 1>character trait that spreads across all relationships totally? Is it

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>only that you cheated in a previous relationship and you

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't cheat in another relationship because you have more respect

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for the person, or you have a deeper level of

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>commitment to the person totally?

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Or I justified the reasons why it was okay for

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>me to do so, which obviously, looking back, I don't

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 3>agree with it, But in that moment, at that age,

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 3>at that level of like lack of understanding about relationships, yeah,

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely justified it.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Away.

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 3>When I think of this, I mean, you're twenty eight,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 3>he's thirty one, and I don't want to like relate

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 3>your situation back to me, because I'm going to that

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 3>might be frustrating for you, but this is more so

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>because of the way in which I struggled to get

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>over cheating. So I was in a long term relationship

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 3>and he was brilliant. We had a great relationship. He

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 3>was a really, really, really great guy. Been together for

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>a year and a half, we lived together. All things

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 3>were stacking up for us to have you be together

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 3>long term. And I found out maybe a year into

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 3>our relationship that at the start of it, he was

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 3>still sleeping with his ex girlfriend and that he was

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 3>still on and off with her, and things were I

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 3>thought that things were completely over. They were obviously way

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>messier than he ever let on for me, and that

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 3>that had continued for a couple of months. And I

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 3>wanted to stay because we lived together, we own stuff together,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, we're a year deep now in

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 3>this relationship, and I was like, I don't want what

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>happened three months in to define where we are now.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 3>The issue I had is that the resentment was so great.

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I had so much resentment for the lying and also

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>because I was so insecure about this ex girlfriend, Like

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 3>I had so much retroactive jealousy for her, and it

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 3>was because I knew, I knew in my core I

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 3>was being lied to. So I had so much resentment

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 3>for him that this had happened, and that the lying

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>had continued for the year of our life relationship that

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I was never able to get over it. But it

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>eroded something in me that I wasn't able to get over.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's really such a defining thing

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>when cheating happens, if you're able to mentally move past

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 3>it and genuinely move past it as a team. But

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 3>if you say you're going to move past it, but

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 3>you hold on to all that like hatred and resentment

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 3>and all of those feelings, it makes it like an

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>impossible thing to move forward with.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? I also think it can do though,

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it containt your memories, So you can be in a

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>situation where, you know, let's say you went on a

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>holiday together three months into your relationship for this girl,

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>So this is two weeks after the rounds of cheating happened,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and you thought you had this amazing time.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>You thought you were, you know.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Newly in love and like connecting so well, it makes

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you question, like was that a reality for both of us.

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Or were you just like, were you just pretending because

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you felt so guilty about something you'd done a week ago,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like you'd slept.

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>With this other person, or were you on that holiday

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>texting another girl the whole time?

0:29:58.760 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>On hundred percent?

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think it can really taint your memories, and

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that has the ability to kind of gaslight you over

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>your own reality. So the only advice that I think

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have for you, like if you were my

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>friend coming to me and saying this, I would say,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>let's keep talking about this, because so often in these situations, I.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Think we can feel a little bit embarrassed.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You know that this person has deceived us for so

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>long and that we had no idea that this was

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>going on, and we can be tempted to not want

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it with our friends because we think

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it makes us lose a little bit of dignity. I

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>really hope you don't feel that way. I hope that

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a friend that you can talk to about this,

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>because he actually needs to be accountable to someone outside

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of you as well. You are the one with the

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>rose colored glasses, because you have the emotions and the

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>feelings for him. I feel as though in these situations

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>our friends can be really good because they're a little

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>bit more impartial to have your back, and so if

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>this type of thing starts to eat away at you,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>they will be able.

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>To keep you in check.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't know someone at the six month mark of

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>a relationship. You don't even know someone completely necessarily at

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the nine month mark, because you've not gone through all

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 3>the big stages of a relationship that shows you how

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>someone is and who they're going to be. And he

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>may be amazing, and this might have been a big mistake.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 3>He might be super narcissistic and someone who has no

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>issue with lying and being able to bend the truth

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 3>in ways. You won't know this until more of his

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>personality and more of who he is comes to light.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 3>But I would say, if you are committed and you

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 3>really desperately want to give this another chance, I'm not

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna sit here and tell you not to. But those

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>rose colored glasses are off now, all right? Question number two.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing a guy for a month. So far,

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>so good.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Convo's good hobbies, a line values a line, and watching

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>him work out was a beautiful sight. But he's going

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>away in two weeks for a two month trip with

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a mate, Usually it would be way too soon to

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>define the relationship. But with him going away, my question

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is do I ask are we not sleeping with other

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>people during this time? I feel like it's usually too

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>soon to ask, But I also think that if he

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>likes me, he shouldn't want to. He has also told

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>me that he's deleted all the apps, which is how

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>we met.

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Do I have the conversation where is he going on

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>his two week trip?

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Is he going to Mexico? Is he going to Cancun?

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Is he going to Vegas?

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Going to Vatican?

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Is he going to the Vatican?

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 4>It's very I think that that's an.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Important part of what might make you be like what

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>is happening here? Like?

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 4>What type of trip is he going on?

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You can hook out with people on any.

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 3>That's true, not in a Mormon community, though maybe he's

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 3>going to do like you know, he could be going

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 3>on a Bible trip.

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Keisha, Have I ever told you that

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw the coliseum was like on a.

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Walk of shame?

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 4>You saw the Colisseum on a walk of shame?

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Were you like, this is a beautiful moment in life

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 3>that I will one day talk about on a podcast.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely was not. I was like, Wow, that's not

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>how I thought this would go.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>This is beautiful at seven am in the morning, I mean, brilliant.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Look I when it comes to anything like this, And yes,

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I know you're like, Okay, it might be too soon.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 4>You've only been dating for a month.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 3>He obviously had this tripped planned way before you met,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's just unfortunate the timing, I would say, ask

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>the question. I guess my worry for you is is like,

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 3>what would be the outcome? What's the worst case scenario here?

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 3>The worst case scenario is he says, look, I'm not

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 3>ready to be exclusive yet, in which case he's telling

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>you I'm going overseas and I'm going to you know,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 3>get it on with other people.

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm open to the opportunity.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna potentially get down to hanky pankytown. Which

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 3>you have to decide that at this point of four

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 3>weeks of dating, are you okay with that? Like, will

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>you I mean, going back to what we just said,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 3>will you hold onto resentment for that? If he hooks

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>up with ten chicks while he's away. Are you gonna

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 3>be like successive.

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 4>In two weeks?

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean it is, but it could happen. Are you

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>going to hate him for that? Will he come back

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 3>from this trip and you're gonna have massive ick because

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>that's a very big possibility. I think the worst alternate

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>is not asking him and hoping that he doesn't and

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>then finding out that he does and being really really

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 3>hurt because you were sitting around waiting for him. I

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 3>think it's so easy to just ask a question of like,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 3>I know that this seems premature, but I just want

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 3>to kind of know where we're at before you go

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 3>on this trip. It might be obvious to you, but

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 3>just so I'm not in the dark on this. Are

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 3>you hooking up with other people while you're away or

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 3>do you have the intention of, you know, keeping your

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>options open while you're away.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Firstly, I think the better question to ask is are

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>we hooking up with other people? Because you've always got

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to plant the fail? Yeah I might exadly be doing

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it too. Yeah that may change their answer. But I

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>think also you need to have a think about how

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you view sex, because for some people it can be

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>something that really makes you feel emotionally connected to someone,

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 1>and for other people it can just simply be a

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>physical act that is euphoric, particularly when you're traveling, Like

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just kind of a part of the

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>fun is that you wild people.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>In my own experiences, both of those things have occurred.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So I've hooked up with people while I've been traveling

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>where it was just a one and done like that

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>was so much fun. Really enjoyed the experience, but didn't

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>think that it changed anything emotionally for me, and didn't

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 1>change anything for me at home.

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like this weird experience that is out of.

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Bottom means nothing.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>It did mean something to me, It meant fun, and

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it meant a really good experience, but it means nothing

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>from an emotional connection.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's and people can one hundred percent dis associate

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 3>themselves in terms of like sex and feelings. Absolutely like

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>it feels good and it's fun, like that was the

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 3>extent of it. I don't have any connection or like

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 3>even want to see that person again. But regardless of that,

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't change the fact that it still hurts. It

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 3>still hurts if someone you really like goes and just

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 3>has fun with someone else and sticks their dick inside

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 3>them like that still hurts, still makes you not feel

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>still makes you feel really unfun when you're on the

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 3>other side of it, I mean really no, because.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>It makes you think like, oh, they're off having these

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>euphoric experiences and here I am at home. I'm just

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the normal one at home whose life isn't changing for

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, which is why I think it's important you say, ah,

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we even if you're not going to be hooking up

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>with other people, I think you just need to evaluate

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>how you're going to feel.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>If he was to say, look.

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I probably am going to hook up with people,

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>and you need to decide whether that is going to

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally change things.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>For you or whether you don't really care.

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Because if you don't really care, I don't know how

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>much knowing that information is actually going to help you.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 3>I think she cares. I don't think she would be

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 3>asking the question if she didn't care. I think if

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>she didn't care, she would be like, whatever, let's just

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 3>you go, acknowledging the fact that it's probably highly likely

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 3>and not wanting clarity on it. I think the very

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 3>reason that she's asking it would indicate that.

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>She cares, Yeah, But do you care from an ego perspective,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>like do you care only because you're like, well, you're

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>going off having these fun times and I'm at home

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>not doing that, or do you care because you think

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it shifts the relationship.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>That you've started.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I think at this point, you know, at the four

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 3>week mark of dating someone, especially when it's the four

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>week mark of dating someone knowing full well that they're

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 3>going on a two week boys trip. From the start,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not like he just dropped this on you if

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>you've known this since the beginning of your dating and

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>he hasn't brought up exclusivity, and he hasn't said, look,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going on this trip, but I'm not going to

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 3>be seeing anyone else. Even though he said I've deleted

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>the apps, I would make the assumption that he's not

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>ready to make a commitment pre trip.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.479
<v Speaker 4>Very good chance he's going to come home from.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>This trip, especially because he's already seated enough of it

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 3>of like, you know, I've deleted the apps, but I'm

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>going to download them when I'm in you know, whatever,

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the Vatican. But I would say that he probably will

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 3>keep his options open whilst he's overseas to not limit

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 3>his fun and experiences and all of those things. And

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe if I was you, especially with it only being

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 3>at the four week mark, if you really like the guy,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I would be putting a mental pause on things, and

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 3>like especially right now, trying not to get too invested

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>knowing that there is this like handbrake that's being pulled

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>for two weeks and just kind of you keep seeing

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 3>other people, you keep doing other things. Because I don't

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>like the idea of him saying I've deleted all the

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>apps implying exclusivity if it doesn't exist, because that's where

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get yourself into a situation where you feel

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>as though you were hard done by it, or you

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 3>were tricked, or you know, he implied commitment and then

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>you found out actually he did X y Z while

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 3>he was traveling. I don't think it is too soon

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 3>to ask the question at all. And I really really

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 3>love the way that you phrased it, Keisha, because I

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 3>was only coming to it from a are you going

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>to be doing this while you're away?

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 4>But I think by asking are we going to be

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 4>doing this while.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>You're away, you no longer come across as clinging you

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>no longer come across as.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, don't go and have sex with other people.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I'm clarifying this for myself because I don't

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 3>want to hurt you either.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 4>So let's just check.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm probably are fucking live but at works because

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I have such a long list of men who are

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>waiting to fuck me whilst you're gone.

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 4>So as soon as you.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Leave Harry, he's at it. Here got two week window

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of having fun times, you know what I mean?

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, I think making it such an open thing and

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 3>making it about the both of you and about how

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 3>you're both going to engage in things while he's away,

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 3>it really shifts the almost like accusation of it, or

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 3>it shifts the intensity of it and from it being

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>about like what he's doing while he's on holidays.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>The only other thing I do want to say is

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that I think if you do end up deciding not

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation, I don't think you should ask

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>him when he gets Absolutely not, because I think you

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of us. Curiosity killed the cat, and

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>curiosity could kill your relationship if you decide to not

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>ask him what their kind of boundaries are before he

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>goes away, but then you ask him after the fact

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and you find out that things did hook up with

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>someone else, like, yeah, things you don't like. I don't

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's fair to kind of apply that exclusivity even

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>though you didn't have the chat.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's so hard.

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 3>The thing that's so hard about that is when you've

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 3>had four weeks of dating someone and four weeks of

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 3>being intimate with them, it's a very short period of time.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 3>But I understand that, like a lot of intensity can

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 3>be achieved, especially if you're someone who's like all in

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 3>on a relationship. You're in that like, ah, oh my god,

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 3>this guy's amazing phase and you don't want to say

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 3>or do anything that's going to screw it up, right,

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But then they go away for two weeks and then

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 3>they come back. You don't know if they've had sex

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 3>with other people, and then it's the feeling of like, oh, well,

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 3>had they had an STI check, like did they go

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 3>and get a sexual So I'm going to ask to

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 3>protect myself, right, I'm going to be like, so, did

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>you sleep with anyone else?

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Why you're overseas?

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Because I want to know from uh am I going

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 3>to be safe, which is such an interesting mindset because

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I know that that's where some people will go to.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 3>But do you get into a new relationship every single

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 3>time you first date someone and have sex with them? Go,

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 3>when was the last time you had your sexual health check?

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Have you slept with anyone since your last sexual health check?

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you know? I mean?

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Am I only out of here? Because I definitely have

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>asked that question many times?

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Do you ask them as soon as you start dating?

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I think you should before we have any type of

0:40:58.680 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>unprotected set.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Good.

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what I have done.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I've asked the question in the past under the premise

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of it being for my safety, when really I was

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>just trying to find out whether they had slept with

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>someone else or not.

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it definitely it was something that was absolutely on

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>my mind.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 2>But I've asked it for more.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Than one reason.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the happy medium of this is, like

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to have a conversation, like you said, Laura,

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>she does care, just pose it as what are we doing?

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, like I'm just I'm just surveying the landscape,

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>rather than it kind of being.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of a like are you gonna be hooking?

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Up with other people like.

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>It's less accusatory, you know, and I think it will

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>give you a better progression in your potential relationship.

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 2>So good luck.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 3>This one is very spicy and I have very strong

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>feelings about it.

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Blow job etiquette.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I was in a seventeen year relationship, married with two kids.

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>It was a tough time when we separated, and I

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>gave myself a year before I started dating again. I

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 3>hadn't dated a lot before I got married, and I

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>have just dating a bit now and it has been

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 3>fun and hard and an emotional rollercoaster.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 4>No pun intended.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 3>But my question is what is the etiquette when giving

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 3>a blowjob? Should he ask you or tell you before

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 3>he comes in your mouth? I went out with a

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 3>guy on a few dates, and the first time we

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 3>were intimate together, I was quite surprised when I went

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 3>down on him, and a short time later he just

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>came in my mouth without saying anything. Until after he

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 3>came he said, good girl. I felt degraded and a

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>bit used. To be honest, I usually don't mind this happening,

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 3>but previous guys have always asked or warned me, so

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.919
<v Speaker 3>I can make a choice. What do you think I

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 3>hate this man bought a flog?

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Good girl? Did he pat you on the head and

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>give you a treat? You're not a dog.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I actually it makes me feel like I've wanted to vomit.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I feel physically sick.

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 3>That whah, Okay, My feelings, my strong feelings around this

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 3>are having some one, a guy come in your mouth

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 3>is an opt in situation, and if they don't ask

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 3>you that, if you're okay with that, they are doing

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>something that is without your consent. You can give a

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 3>blowjob up to the point of them coming, but if

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 3>they have not explicitly gotten permission to do so, they

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>have absolutely crossed the line. And that is how I

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>feel about this, because it is there is such a

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 3>big difference between giving a blowjob and having someone actually

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 3>come in your mouth. They are two completely different things.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't lame with you more so, I'm not going

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to read it ate.

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 3>And it makes me feel angry that he thinks that

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 3>this is okay, and that then in such a like

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 3>a oh, it's like so infantizing, like good girl, That's actually.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Where the bigger problem for me happened. Let's say hypothetically

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>he came without much warning and for some reason, he

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't have enough time to indicate to you, this is

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>about to happen.

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I need you.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 4>You don't believe I still don't believe it.

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not common, but let's just say it for this

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the sake of argument that that is what occurred.

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 4>He would say sorry.

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>He should apologize and say sorry that I didn't check

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>with you. Whether that was okay or not. His reaction

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>is the most concerning part for me. Yes, I firstly,

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it absolutely should be and agreed upon situation

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>as to what is happening with that product.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>If it's not, I can't stop shivering because I feel

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>viscerally sick.

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 3>And I have no issue with doing it. It's just

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 3>like I have an issue with it being some random

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 3>guy that didn't ask.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 4>If I was okay with it, because it is.

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It is so invasive, the good girl bullshit, like sorry,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>so premeditated. I don't think anything in that situation could

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>make me feel more sick. I don't think anything would

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>make me like want to get out. And also, just

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know, that's not normal.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a virgin.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Mary.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.479
<v Speaker 1>There has never been a circumstance where someone has done

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that without asking me and the and said good girl

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to me and patted me on the head, like the minority.

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying, Okay, if you're into like being caught

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 3>a good little girl like that could be a king

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 3>for you, that's fine. But for me, it's the not

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 3>knowing that you're okay with that, right, that's a different thing.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 3>It's if you're okay with being told that you're a

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 3>good little girl and getting spanked, like that's fine, but

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 3>that's something that you have to he has to know

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 3>that you enjoy. Otherwise it is degrading. Otherwise it is

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 3>an assumption that he is belittling you. It is infantizing,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 3>like it is the way that you felt, I think

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 3>is overarchingly a normal reaction that most women would feel.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And he absolutely went beyond blowjob etiquette, like he does

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 3>not either he doesn't know what isn't isn't okay or

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 3>he's purposely done this, and both of those things are

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 3>not all right, right, Like it's not okay to not

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>know and not to be conscious enough around like what

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 3>constitute consent when it comes to sex, Like we're old

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>enough and silly enough now that and there's been there's

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>enough educational material out there that there is no excuse

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>to not know. And secondly, if he's doing it on purpose,

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 3>he's an absolute effing flog because he's prioritizing his sexual

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 3>gratification over your comfort and where your boundaries lie. Usually

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 3>there is some indication, whether they've asked you whether it's

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 3>okay or not okay, there's some indication that they're about

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.919
<v Speaker 3>to do it. They'll say I'm about to come, They'll

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.959
<v Speaker 3>say something that allows you to make up your mind

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 3>as to whether you want that to be in your

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 3>mouth or not. There is, But if he like purposely

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>made no indication of that, it's almost more like he

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 3>was trying to kind of get one past the goalkeeper

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 3>to say, I'm just trying to think of a time

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 3>where i haven't known that someone was gonna come, and

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>it's like I've always known, because there's always been some indication,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 3>which makes me think for him to be able to

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 3>just do it without you realizing, he would have had

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to have suppressed all of the telltale signs that it

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 3>was about to happen in order to get away with

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 3>doing it, so that he could get it past you

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 3>without giving you the choice. It's there's many levels of

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 3>gross here.

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I so unanimously agree with you, like, I don't think

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>there's ever been a question where we have felt this

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 1>opinionated but been on the same side of the fence,

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I'm giving way too much benefit of

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the doubt when I said, like, you know, maybe it

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>happened by accident, but it is possible. And for the

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>chance of possibility. For me, it's the reaction to this

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that is the bigger issue. It's the fact that there

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't an apology. There was.

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>He didn't.

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.399
<v Speaker 4>It was an expectation, good guests, Yes he didn't.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>He actually has not at all checked the consent box

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>here with you, because he just did something and assumed

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that it was absolutely fine to do. And I think

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if I were in that situation, I would probably be

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>just as shocked as you know.

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think it's even worse. It's not that

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 3>he thought it was absolutely fine to do. He didn't

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 3>care whether it was fine or not. That's the thing.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 3>It goes beyond him thinking it's okay. He didn't care

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 3>if it was okay, And that's the thing I have

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 3>a problem with.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, chuck this guy in the bin. Please don't go

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>out with him again, like, don't even reply to him.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>This is it's really gross behavior. And it's all so

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>indicative of what a relationship with him may be like.

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Because if he's not checking for consent on something like that,

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>what else is he not gonna check with you on?

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, like to me, that is it is. It

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 2>is one of the biggest red flags.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I would say, you can have a conversation about it,

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 3>because like he he may have in that instance gotten

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>signs from you that you were okay with it, and

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 3>he may have so deeply, like I'm giving the benefit

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>of the dabt at the very end, yet he may

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:32.399
<v Speaker 3>have so deeply misinterpreted that situation, which says a lot

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 3>and he shouldn't have. But if you say to him, hey,

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 3>actually that kind of made me feel gross and I

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 3>didn't like that, and you know, in future, can you

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 3>please like, you know, at least I ask if I'm

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 3>okay with it, or give me some sort of warning

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 3>signs so that I have the opportunity to choose. It's

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 3>his reaction to that conversation which is really going to

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>be the nail in the coffin for me. If he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I'm so sorry I thought that fucking hell,

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<v Speaker 3>I misread that so deeply. That is a whole different

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<v Speaker 3>action then, Like, what do you mean you know we're

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<v Speaker 3>all enjoying ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to me, it just like it is on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of being too like forgiving of something that should

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<v Speaker 1>be such a fundamental understanding of research for someone that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a bit like, is that diminishing?

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<v Speaker 1>But if he turns around you do that conversation and says,

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<v Speaker 1>bad girl, get a fuck out of there, like, oh,

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