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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers.

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Speaker 1: Now, Welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. We're so glad

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Speaker 1: to have you joining us today. Every Friday on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: we review the week that was, the highs and lows,

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Speaker 1: the peaks, the troughs, the things that went well and

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Speaker 1: the things that didn't. We call it I'll do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The whole object is that we want to improve in

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Speaker 1: our parenting. We want to be more intentional, we want

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Speaker 1: to be more conscious parents. And Kylie today a podcast

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Speaker 1: with a difference. You're not in the studio with me.

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Speaker 2: We've never actually done this, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think we ever have.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not hauled up in a tiny little hotel

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Speaker 2: room at the moment spending a little bit of time

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Speaker 2: away with a friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, girls time, no kids, no husband, just you, Beck

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot of fun. Really, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: must be living the life.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm doing lots and lots of walking, so I'm

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Speaker 2: really feeling it.

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Speaker 1: So here's the context. Every year, so often, Kylie, for

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Speaker 1: our entire marriage, we've always been so committed to being

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Speaker 1: close to one another, and we would never I remember

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Speaker 1: years and years and years ago, some friends were going

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Speaker 1: on individual holidays, that is, they were going on trips

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Speaker 1: without taking their husband or their wife, and we were like,

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Speaker 1: who would do that? How could you do that? And

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Speaker 1: suddenly here we are, and how's it going? You know?

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Speaker 2: I think the real challenge is that when you become

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Speaker 2: and the idea, the romantic notion that his husband and

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Speaker 2: bit unrealistic for most families.

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you having a ball? Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: I am having a ball.

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Speaker 1: I miss you all, but I am having well. So

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it all well. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: been missing you like crazy all week, but I've been

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Speaker 1: living crisis, people struggling so much, this is also a

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Speaker 1: really affordable way for you to be able to have

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Speaker 1: an experience because the cost of taking the family away

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Speaker 1: it's exorbitant and it's just too much pressure. But you

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Speaker 1: just paying for one person to disappear for a few days,

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Speaker 1: it's so much more affordable than trying to pack up

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Speaker 1: want to go camping, which we're always happy to do that,

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Speaker 1: but this was just for you, and well, I guess

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Speaker 1: one to look after, no one to confer with, no

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Speaker 2: So this is something new for both Beck and I.

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Speaker 2: Neither of us have actually done a really solid trip

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Speaker 2: We're both really busy mums. We spend lots of time

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Speaker 2: and to be able to spend time together obviously strengthens

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Speaker 2: any relationship when you do that. And I think as women,

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Speaker 2: And we've kind of we've come together as two very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon that there's pretty much everyone who's listening

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Speaker 2: So There's probably three things that stand out to me

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Speaker 2: how Emily specifically would respond to me being away and

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Speaker 2: or spousers, or they're too worried because nobody could do

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Speaker 2: reality is, how have you done?

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Speaker 1: I'm interested, I really appreciate you asking.

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Speaker 2: Have you survived?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've survived. It's fine. If I was

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Speaker 1: to summarize how I'm doing, I would say, I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy for you I'm so happy for you. That's not

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Speaker 1: not envious at all. I truly am happy for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, do I wish that we were together? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Can I please come with you on your next girls

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Speaker 1: Pretty please? I really would like that a lot, Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, so extremely extremely jealous, really really envious, wishing,

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Speaker 1: really grateful for the opportunity as well. So I've had

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Speaker 1: And I know that any mum right now is pulling

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Speaker 1: It is hard, and my heart goes out to any

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Speaker 1: of difference. It's been really hard. Miss you like crazy,

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Speaker 1: Meals have been cooked on top of the washing. House

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Speaker 1: other family. It's a horrible, horrible challenge and a tremendous

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Speaker 1: I've never stopped appreciating everything that you do. Gee, I

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Speaker 1: Do that, if only, if only so missus Happy Families.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your last forty eight hours away from the family.

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Speaker 1: I hope that it goes really nicely. Looking forward to

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Speaker 2: See Sunday Night.

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Speaker 1: Ruland from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer.

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