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Speaker 1: But look, joining me on the line right now.

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Speaker 2: I always like heading out to the rural area and

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Speaker 2: joining me on the line right now. Is the independent

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Speaker 2: member for goid A Kezier Puric. Good morning to you, Kezier.

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Speaker 3: Oh, good morning Katie. Wanting to listeners.

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Speaker 1: You're sounding a bit sick today, easier bit crook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a cold. I went to that dreadful

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Speaker 3: Sydney place and did all my precautionary things and more

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Speaker 3: masks and clean tables. And I'm back one day and

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Speaker 3: I've got a cold and I tested myself. It's not

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Speaker 3: the rona. No good to hear a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, Well, we're hoping we'd have you on the

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Speaker 2: week that was tomorrow, but we'll have to wait and

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Speaker 2: see how you're going.

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Speaker 1: Don't want you to go. Yeah, see how you go now, Kesier.

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Speaker 2: The new fire station is obviously it's complete, as I

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Speaker 2: understand it is.

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Speaker 1: It's finished now, isn't that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I believe so. I believe so that I'm doing a

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Speaker 3: soft opening and checking all the all the equipment to

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Speaker 3: make sure it's all working well for you know, coming

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Speaker 3: into the dry season in particular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's out there at at Howard's. But

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Speaker 2: it's called is it called the Parmesan fire station?

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Speaker 3: It is called just called boring Parmesan fire station, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I'm getting a bit fed up with this government

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Speaker 3: trying to encroach into the rule area and leave things

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Speaker 3: they're called Parmesan, Like we've got the Pariston Hospital, although

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Speaker 3: they sometimes do refer to it as the Parmeston and regional.

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Speaker 3: So why isn't this fire station called the Parmeston a

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Speaker 3: rural fire station when it's within the Lichfield Council boundaries.

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Speaker 3: And not only that, Katie, we've got the Rural Volunteer

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Speaker 3: fire Brigades Howard Springs, something to do called Ingia Virginia

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Speaker 3: that service for the service the greater rural area and

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Speaker 3: lots of people involved out they'll have a lot of

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Speaker 3: engagement and a relationship with this fire station. And they're

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Speaker 3: rural people. They're rural volunteer brigades. And I think the

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Speaker 3: government should be looking at, you know, encompassing the rural

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Speaker 3: air because that's where this fire station is going to

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Speaker 3: be servicing predominantly, as well as obviously Parmeston and elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: So it should be I mean, I personally think it

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Speaker 3: should be the Lichfield fire station, but of course we're

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Speaker 3: not going to get the government to choose that because

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think that Parmerson's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Gizie, this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know, I was having a little giggle

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Speaker 2: staunch and wanting it to be the rural fire station.

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Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is that it is

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Speaker 2: actually out there in Howard Springs and so a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are questioning why it's not included in the name.

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Speaker 3: Well, and like you said, and I'll be running to

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Speaker 3: the Minister for Police Nicole Madison, say come on enough enough.

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Speaker 3: You know you put the hospital in Lichfield Council and

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Speaker 3: now you've put the fire station. You still want to

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Speaker 3: call them just parmersaves Armson's got its own fire station,

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Speaker 3: you know, down Emory Avenue or wherever it is somewhere

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Speaker 3: any modern fire station which we don't need given we've

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Speaker 3: had a very good wet season, so we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a lot of fuel load and no doubt we'll

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Speaker 3: have lots of fires as we always do. So let

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Speaker 3: the rural people have some ownership of its infrastructure. Don't

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Speaker 3: just sort of, you know, ignore the twenty five twenty

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Speaker 3: working with this fire station and the offices. So I'll

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Speaker 2: For one, Well and Keizer, it's not the only issue

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Speaker 2: know that you had said to me that the government

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Speaker 2: is wanting to make Marachai and Dundee and Douglas Day

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Speaker 1: What does this all mean.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, this has been over ten years in the coming.

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Speaker 3: Those who have been around long enough, we'll remember ten

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Speaker 3: Didn't ask Litchfield and then just blanket and call it

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Speaker 3: Jerry Woold remember for Nelson at the time, he coordinated

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Speaker 3: Then the government said, okay, we'll forget it, We'll leave it.

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Speaker 3: So surrounding Lichfield is the whole swag of unincorporated areas

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Speaker 3: people I've spoken to do not want to be incorporated.

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Speaker 3: They see no advantage, no benefits, and that all the

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Speaker 3: government's doing is they usually do have your say, but

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Speaker 3: week as to where is this come from? What where

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Speaker 3: does it come from? Why? Now is there some kind

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Speaker 3: you know, something to do with roads. They don't want

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Speaker 3: This is what they mentioned in the discussion paper. I

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Speaker 3: mean the discussion paper is like five pages long. And also,

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Speaker 3: and there's few mineral leases. So whether the government's got

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Speaker 3: something in mind that they're going to somehow, you know,

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Speaker 3: smack them with a big, big rate, rate high or

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Speaker 3: rate full stop, I don't know. So so easy for

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Speaker 3: the government, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: So does it mean that the likes of Marrachai, Dundee

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Speaker 2: Douglas Day that they will all then fall under the

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Speaker 3: We don't know. I know Kamali is in the mix.

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Speaker 3: There somewhere is a councul it's own right. If you

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Speaker 3: look at the discussion paper, they've got Marachai and a

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Speaker 3: to assume that's what they've got in mind. Do they have,

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Speaker 3: you know, in mind that Dundee and Kamali should come together?

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Speaker 3: The other thing too, Katie Is. Both Dundee and Marrachai

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Speaker 3: have their own very successful Progress Association. They provide a

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Speaker 3: They look after children, you know, Christmas time, Easter time,

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Speaker 3: and also those progresses siations have stepped up when they aren't.

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Speaker 3: Stuart Adam Hawey got cut in floods a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago. It was a Progress Association that helped organize

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Speaker 3: the schooling on the Tavern brands for the students who

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Speaker 3: were stuck on that side of the flood. You know.

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Speaker 3: So they're already operating. Well, they're in the corporate Association.

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Speaker 3: You know, they pretty much run their own sort of

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Speaker 3: informal library with books that are shared. You know. So

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Speaker 3: you know, the government says saying, oh we want in

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Speaker 3: a corporate ship. Why what advantage isn't going to and

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Speaker 3: what's in it for the government. That's the other thing

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Speaker 3: to care for the government.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to catch up with the Lichfield bear

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes as well, and we'll hear

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Speaker 2: what he's got to say.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, keys here, it sounds like the talks

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Speaker 1: are happy out there at your place that your home

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Speaker 1: Brook yeah one.

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Speaker 3: He's very happy.

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Speaker 1: He is, by the sounds of it, very happy. Kesy Empiric.

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Speaker 1: We better leave it there. Hopefully you're on the mend,

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Speaker 1: but no no pressure for tomorrow. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Thank you,