1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nations bad. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: News in your world. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I was really sad to hear of the passing 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: of Ian Finlay. Ian Finlay passed away at the age 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: of eighty nine, a former ABC journalist. This is a 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: man who did everything, but the man he was to 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: me was one of my colleagues at Beyond two thousand. 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: When I first joined Beyond two thousand in the early 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I guess the mid eighties, I was terrified that show 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: had been going already for a number of years with 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the most respected journalists you can imagine. So when Simon 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Reeve and I started, we were such junior Burghers that 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Ian Finlay was one of the nicest people I have 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: ever met. That show itself was quite extraordinary when you 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: look back at it as you talk off in Jonesy 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: about the silly stories and the things we missed and 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: the walking on the water shoes and all of that. 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: But have listened to Ian here in nineteen eighty eight 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: talking about climate change. 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Hummans have walked this earth for close to three million years. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: Our industrial world has existed for a mere two hundred years. 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: So if you think about that a slightly different way 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: and try and imagine humans being around for only twenty 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: four hours. Then the Industrial Age would have started just 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: five seconds ago. And we're only now realizing that in 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: those five seconds we've caused major changes to our planet's 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: atmosphere and ultimately will change its climate. Now there's been 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: a lot of talk in the world's media about these 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: possible changes, but much of it, let's face it has 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: been full of hot air. 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty eight, it was around the time that 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: they got rid of chlorofluoricarbons, and that made a big difference. 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: It actually closed the hole in the ozone layer. Ian 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: and his wife Trish were so great to me, and 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: they were such an inspirational couple. They traveled while widely, 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: they were interested in all kinds of things. They wore 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: their hearts on their sleeves in terms of causes. Even 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: recently they're doing some work in Laos. They are incredible, 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: incredible humans. And Ian had a disorder, a rare disorder 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: called amy ludosis, which were a protein bill up in 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the organs and can lead to their failure. So he 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: chose in the last few days voluntary assisted dying. So 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: this is the decision the family came to and as 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: Ian said, and what makes me emotional? What a great speech, 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: he said. I've always been interested in the unanswerable questions life, death, 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: and the whole darn thing I look on. Birth and 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: death has been the two great adventures of life. 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Oh what a guy. 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Condolence, Oh, absolute condolences to Ian and Trish, their kids 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and all of those who are in their orbit. An 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: extraordinary man, and he'll be very much mess. 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: Ahead of his time. 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely curious about that. That particular story about climate change 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty eight. You're on that very same episode 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: talking about meat meat meat, Well, if a portion size 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: is anything to go by, this should taste like Noville cuisine. 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Smells okay, he goes little dry, quite tasty though it's 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: actually not a salty I thought it would be. It's 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: not your eye fill it and it could probably do 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: with a bit of mustard, but that's not bad for 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: meat that's eighteen months old. While Ian was talking about that, 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: you were winging about dry on meat. Well, I hope 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: that's not what they play for me when I pass away. Well, 64 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: how inspirational I was. I'll play you getting salty on 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: TikTok taker. 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. Rest in peace, absolutely,