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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast. Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Qts Q TETs CURLYESKOLQ.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you said before pigged piget but it's good? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a miss a misspoke. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of those in the show. I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nagging us. It's not a good vibe, is it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the year of positivity. What is the what's the

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<v Speaker 2>animal this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't check.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a rat. Anyone know in the room?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm checking five brains in this room. Twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>year of tiger.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I feel like that doesn't mean much.

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<v Speaker 1>Press about that. That's an exciting year. AnyWho shall we

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<v Speaker 1>tuck in?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Flex and Rooms, I've got a fact for you

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<v Speaker 2>right at the top, and that is that in America

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<v Speaker 2>bimbo means something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in Australia, bimbo. What do you think? That's silly person,

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<v Speaker 1>unintelligent person? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's on purpose unintelligent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's what a bimbo is? Yeah, bimbo

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<v Speaker 1>is really the smartest of all people. Yeah, But in

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<v Speaker 1>the general sense, the phrase bimbo is not a compliment

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<v Speaker 1>it's a silly person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd love to be a bimbo. That's why we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this dress. It's bimbo dressed. Did you know though,

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<v Speaker 2>in America, Yeah, bimbo refers to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand of bread. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in America, just white slice. Yeah, it's just the whitest,

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<v Speaker 2>sugariest loaf. Oh, sugar tip top is quaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's quite cute. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>looks like bread. That's it's preservative based. It definitely wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>baked fresh yesterday. It's been in that plastic rap for

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<v Speaker 1>the last six years and you wouldn't even know it's

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<v Speaker 1>giving Lilian Yeah, preservative based, embalmed from the inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>Never had a fresh ingredient in her life. Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>When the last time you've had your feelings hurt, like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago. Have you ever had your heart broken?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>You have? You had your heart broken?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you? Yeah? But I don't think somebody did it

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had that feeling where it's like been ripped

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<v Speaker 2>out of your chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, it was visceral. No, I was seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>so of course it was. Oh I feel really bad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>can I tell you something moving on? It was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't happen last week for you, You'll be right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was doing some googles, as I do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I came across a fact and it did come from

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<v Speaker 1>a dot org website, so one might say it is

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<v Speaker 1>completely factual. It is possible to die from a broken heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what you're describing when you were seventeen, you

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<v Speaker 1>were you know three, bad experience is away from something

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<v Speaker 1>that could not be reversed. Here's the thing. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>called broken heart syndrome or stress cardiomyopathy, and it occurs

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<v Speaker 1>when a person experiences sudden acute stress that can rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>weaken the heart muscle. So from what I'm imagining, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you get really stressed out, heart palpitation start your

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<v Speaker 1>heart's working overtime and the way it hasn't before, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not trained for that kind of you know output, and

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<v Speaker 1>then so it starts to weaken, not strengthen them. Before

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<v Speaker 1>you know it a slight little thing, you're out, You've skeated.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really sad though, because I did actually see

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok recently. Unrelated but kind of related no, completely related.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl was doing a little like selfie motor camera

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<v Speaker 1>thing and being like, oh my goodness, I feel really terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my heart hurts, I feel super dizzy. I got

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<v Speaker 1>chest pains, I can't breathe. People like, is it COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, no, it's not COVID. I've taken a test.

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<v Speaker 1>She went to the emergency room broken heart syndrome, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was I'm so embarrassed as well, because she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot explain to you the pain that I have felt.

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<v Speaker 1>If I knew it was from a broken heart, I

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<v Speaker 1>would not have come here. So fun fact, give yourself

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<v Speaker 1>some credit if it's taken you a long time to

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<v Speaker 1>get over that person who broke your heart, because not

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<v Speaker 1>only did they break your heart, they almost killed you.

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<v Speaker 2>And they yeah, they could be watching this anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this is flex and Frooms on kit. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to settle in for what I'd like to call a

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<v Speaker 1>very modern debate. Yes, two types of people, or we

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<v Speaker 1>take the Internet's most silly debates and we decide what

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<v Speaker 1>is the most what's the best opinion? Yeah, I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the best opinion? All right, firms, According to

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, there are two types of people, Yes, those

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<v Speaker 1>who think it's completely sound and fine to wear underwear

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<v Speaker 1>when they leave the house, and those who are unsanct

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<v Speaker 1>mominiously against it. Which can't do you lie in please

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<v Speaker 1>reveal I don't wear underwear. I don't believe that. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that. Why because this is a meshress

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<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't looking, but I know I saw lace.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me stop you right there in a work

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<v Speaker 2>setting where I'm wearing something mesh, I'm wearing underpants, not

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<v Speaker 2>for myself but for you. I don't want to be sued.

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<v Speaker 2>I have public liability insurance, but it's not for that much.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't wear undies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now thinking about the different fabrics that one would

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<v Speaker 1>wear from the waist down. I'm thinking DENI. Denim is

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<v Speaker 1>really rough. I'm thinking cotton sweatpants that's very absorbent. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very absorbent. I'm also thinking, do you get more than

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<v Speaker 1>one wear out of your pants? For example, with these

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<v Speaker 1>pants that I'm wearing today, They've got another day in them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're going straight from crotch to pant crutch,

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<v Speaker 1>from human crutch to fabric crotch. You don't have more

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<v Speaker 1>than a couple hours these grooves, these grooves be picking up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a question of hygiene, It's about practicality.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what now I I'm thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wear bras. No, are you right now not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a bra?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the same conversation we're having.

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<v Speaker 2>See, not wearing a bra is crazy to me. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a bra, I've got a top supporting that bra.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing something tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep them in. Shut it. This conversation needs to go

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<v Speaker 1>deeper because it's not just about do you or do

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<v Speaker 1>you not wear underwear in the daytime. This needs to

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<v Speaker 1>transition into nighttime because I feel as though there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more in for contention. I will say, there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one correct answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is wearing a full brief in this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Look? Literally, every day I'm giving the girlies a black,

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<v Speaker 1>high waisted full cotton brief, no variation, no variation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a one trick pony. Through me is a commando girlie.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the context of the office, for the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of us, her colleagues, she has decided that she will

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<v Speaker 1>in fact wrap up. I'll wrap it up. Outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the context of work, she is free, free agent. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, though, what about for bedtime? Because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in argument to four and I will call them arguments

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<v Speaker 1>about people who are vehemently against wearing socks in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big sock girlie. It's good for warmth. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at me like that. I want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pro socks. I've got bedtime socks there on. Underwear

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<v Speaker 1>for bed, yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's ridiculous. What that is ridiculous? Underwear in bed

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<v Speaker 1>is a no. You need to breathe. This is my

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<v Speaker 1>thought pattern. Okay, I'm closing my eyes so I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear clearer.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a challenge and I like change in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I get up, I'm wearing a skirt. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna wear underpants. I need to keep it interesting. However, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to sleep, I go to wi I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like using that much toilet paper at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you drift ry?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that I wait and then I get up,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I feel like there's more way. Like that

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<v Speaker 2>happens a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get that No, it never.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like it's fully out, so they wear underpants just

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<v Speaker 2>in case that a little bit comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get up again. Well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a bladder problem, not a leakage problem. It's a brain problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're ondies.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I won't disclose who said it to us,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is someone who works in close proximity mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that their reason for wrapping up at night is a

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<v Speaker 1>fear of bugs entering them through the place that must

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<v Speaker 1>not be entered by bugs. I think that's really important

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<v Speaker 1>because they do say statistically like we're eating bugs and

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<v Speaker 1>spiders all night. But that being said, two types of people,

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<v Speaker 1>those who understand that underwear is meant to be worn

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<v Speaker 1>outside and not inside, and those who don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy to supporting my side, no undies and strapping it

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<v Speaker 2>all in for debt strapping in Why are you saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That this is flex and frooms on Kada.

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<v Speaker 2>Last weekend, I was at a venue in Sydney with

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<v Speaker 2>a new friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're a cop. I was at a venue in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that an alibi? It was the story?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were sitting down having a drink and I

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<v Speaker 2>know her purely through Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, her Instagram name is Juicy Romance. She's an DJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to admit this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, happily, great Juicy Romance. We're sitting down and having

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<v Speaker 2>a wine together. We've never hung out one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a new thing. And two of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>came to meet up with us, who were both called

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan and Jordan, which was Jordan's and she goes off

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<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom and I say, Jordan's Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a bit of a pickle. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>Juicy's actual name. I say to Jordan one, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to ask her her name. She comes back to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>He's freaking out. He doesn't know how to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>like introduce himself, how to be like, oh, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just too awkward to do it. Have the

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<v Speaker 1>introductions happened already, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But no names were given forward? Oh okay, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Later on, a few drinks in my inhibitions leave me

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<v Speaker 2>violently and I go, point blank, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>You said that? Yeah? Have you no shame? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>no shame?

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<v Speaker 2>I get it all the time. People always don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what my name is.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they wouldn't You don't claim Lucinda, They're not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to know that? And frooms is your name? True?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get that a lot? Flex? Mummy? If he

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<v Speaker 1>will say flex but everyone calls me flex? What do

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<v Speaker 1>your friends call you? Which ones like Sally? The friends

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<v Speaker 1>I've known forever I don't, but only have a few

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<v Speaker 1>small friends I've known forever. They'll call me lil, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else calls me flex because it is more than

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<v Speaker 1>an Instagram name, though it's a DJ name first true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the same with my friend Juicy, So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's okay that I called her Juicy absolutely you

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<v Speaker 2>know what her actual name is, Gwenavie similar vibe Finola

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<v Speaker 2>fi n n o u la Fanola fol never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it before? Where is that from Ireland?

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<v Speaker 1>Panola? So? How was I?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>You say? How was I meant to? Like? There weren't

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<v Speaker 1>ten other things you could have done? The most obvious

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<v Speaker 1>one is what I call the Flex special Because here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I used to think I was really good

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<v Speaker 1>at remembering names and faces until I recognize the sheer

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<v Speaker 1>volume people that I meet casually that I'm not putting

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<v Speaker 1>any weight on that interaction. But they might be. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do in that situation is make them

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<v Speaker 1>introduce each other. So the Jordans come, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordan's names are. I don't know if Nola's name.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, my god. And then you cross your

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<v Speaker 1>arms together in front of you, and then you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>meet each other. Do you have you guys met? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys met? They haven't met. I know this. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they'd introduce each other. Yeah. I mean, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take the emphasis off you. If there was a spotlight

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<v Speaker 1>that was pointing on you in that moment to say

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<v Speaker 1>you should know that person's name, you need to pan

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<v Speaker 1>that spotlight to the other people. Cast it away, Cast

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<v Speaker 1>it away. You're listening to flex and frooms on Kada.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still nonsense to come in the form of one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite games. Mostly sometimes it's called stilling rivalries.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, we like to debate here, and we

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<v Speaker 1>also like to debate silly things, things that have really

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to be talked about for more than two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, no real debates, no real debates, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything needs to be semi fictional or semi silly. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching you chew this eminem, and I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>just wouldn't have had it. Okay, I'm wishing you would

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<v Speaker 1>have just seen the eminem. We have this huge jar

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<v Speaker 1>of lollies, right and Froom's waits till literally seven seconds

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<v Speaker 1>before we have to speak to put this giant eminem

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<v Speaker 1>in her mouth. And then she goes between chewing and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to talk at me. One eye is squinting because

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to chew silently. N your teeth the turning blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually they are the whole tongue miscellaneous brown and blue.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress. Sibling rivalries. We take to a to

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<v Speaker 1>east eight elis celebrities who also happen to be siblings, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and we decide which one is the better one. The

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<v Speaker 1>only caveat is you can't use anything that's like actually viable,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't say this one's better because they're more popular.

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<v Speaker 1>That's lamb. Today's siblings are ooh, ooh, it's in ell ell.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally so gross, like a little piece of blueshell ludged

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<v Speaker 2>in my throat. No, today's siblings are Jaden and Willow Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild card. It's a wild card.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and no, I didn't choose them because of will

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<v Speaker 2>Smith's on stage Oscar antics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in that. Okay, what's done is done. Great. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going into about.

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<v Speaker 2>For Jayden, who is the older of the twins. Of

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<v Speaker 2>the siblings, they're not twins. I always thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>a younger one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that him.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are some reasons why Jaden Smith is the better

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<v Speaker 2>sibling than Willow Smithy. Jaden Smith doesn't try and have

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<v Speaker 2>a Beyonce moment. What is that Willow? I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>Smith on the end of Willow. All I see is

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<v Speaker 2>Willow in capitals on Spotify. That's a bit of an ego.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden definitely calls himself Jayden. I know this is met

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not meant to interject at this moment, but I cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden absolutely calls himself Jayden. I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we fact check? Not right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Great, because this is sibling rivalries where nothing means anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Jaden also is more of a vibe because he was

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<v Speaker 2>will Smith's young son in the movie Pursuit of Happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>That might seem like a real fact, but when you

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<v Speaker 2>consider the Pursuit of Happiness is actually incorrectly spelt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why is that. Do you know what I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's spelled ha py ness. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I go to that movie and I can't get

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<v Speaker 2>out of my head? Why did they spell it happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you a bit more about Jaden and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll throw it at the break. Jaden Smith cares

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<v Speaker 2>about the environment. He brought out the bottled water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. Yeah, that's a really good what

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<v Speaker 1>was it called clean water something? Again, with Google, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have just googled that one, and yet and yet

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to help the environment, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jaden Smith is the best of all Smith's, and

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps the best Smith in total. To pink it will

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<v Speaker 2>Willow yep them.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the picture. I'm all for Jaden Smith. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is I like Willow Smith. I do, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the reason why I'm finding it difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>argue on her behalf the case just isn't there for me.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I can tell you that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to elevate her miles above Jaden is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she was born on Halloween. Well, yeah, it's a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing. I use these little fingers of

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<v Speaker 1>mine to type into Google what does it mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be born on Halloween? Because surely there's like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cultural significance. Are you a spooky person by nature?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you psychic? Are you a witch because you're born

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<v Speaker 1>on Halloween? What does it actually mean? To my surprise, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>not even like a rogue blog post about how Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>babies were born to No. Nothing, ah. So then I

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<v Speaker 1>typed in fun facts about Willow Smith at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the damn barrel. Nothing. All I read was that

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<v Speaker 1>she was actually mad at her parents for that whip

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<v Speaker 1>my Hair thing. And when I say whip my hair thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the fact that that became a global sensation,

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<v Speaker 1>that song. And she said her dad, in particular will

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<v Speaker 1>was really harsh on her to make it a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that it took her years to forgive

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<v Speaker 1>him because she felt that he was more concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>her being famous and riding out that wave than her

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<v Speaker 1>passion for music, which is why she made the song

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with savage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a banger, though it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>She did it, but she was ten ten years old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving Jojo siwah a little bit. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not very often that I'll admit defeat early on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it would be best to me to

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<v Speaker 1>say that you won that round your first time ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an underdog, yeah, absolutely, like my boy Jaye

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<v Speaker 2>and Smith God bless.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that water thing though, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>just but I don't think Jaden's is making water because

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<v Speaker 1>he gets about the environment alleged. Alleged. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that any celebrity parent who gives their children businesses to

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<v Speaker 1>be the face of before they even adults is not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for the environment. Yeah, speaking territory, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did do some research a couple of months ago that

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<v Speaker 1>said water is going to be one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>profitable sectors to work in because it's going to start

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<v Speaker 1>getting privatized. Nah. I don't want to do conspiracies. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do it. I'm want to rain it in.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't hear from me me flex And for the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days now, we've had, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>too many conversations about dating and we don't plan on

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<v Speaker 1>stopping now. Why it's too good. The content rights itself, Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>The content rights itself. The amount of dilemmas we've received

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<v Speaker 1>and also given really good advice on countless cannot be counted,

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<v Speaker 1>but can be applauded, and you can send your compliments

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<v Speaker 1>and well wishes to cater to a you're on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress. I've done some thinking and I've come

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<v Speaker 1>to a conclusion yes, that I would like to share

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<v Speaker 1>and if anybody wants to also share this, they can

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<v Speaker 1>credit me flex I hand on heart truly believe that

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<v Speaker 1>in the realm of dating, ghosting when you're not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in someone could be one of the kindest things you

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<v Speaker 1>could do to them. Should I elaborate or would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to say something?

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to formally interject to say incorrect? Great,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I'll say for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, and don't get me started, because they

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<v Speaker 1>do love a debate. I've been thinking about the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>honesty is the best policy. What do they call that? Cliche?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about cliches is sometimes they're rooted in truth. However,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they've just been said so often that we think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're truthful. I used to be more of an

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<v Speaker 1>honest person, and I found that I was just hurting

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<v Speaker 1>people's feelings because sometimes honesty just absolves you from your

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of stuff and gives people a bunch of baggage

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really need. Let me paint a picture for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Two people go on a date. Yeah, they go on

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<v Speaker 1>this date with the subtext that there is romantic potential here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're cute, you think I'm cute. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know each other that Well, let's go on a date

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<v Speaker 1>explore it? Shall we? We go on said date? The

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<v Speaker 1>vibes off, The vibes are not great. If we cast

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<v Speaker 1>our mind back to was it yesterday's episode? Twopisodes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Alan and Ali. Ali is the disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti eater, and Alan texted in to say that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do, didn't know what to do

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It was grossing him out. That's an incompatibility

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have known about by looking at her hinge profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right? Or am I right? You're right? I'm right.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. If after this date you go

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<v Speaker 1>on and you don't vibe with the person for reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't control, is it fair to give them

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<v Speaker 1>the baggage of another insecurity. Let's say they move their

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<v Speaker 1>mouth funny when they laugh. I've been there. You have yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I've been on both ends, so I can confidently

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<v Speaker 2>say yes, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Or let's say they told a story about their euro

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<v Speaker 1>Tripe and you're like, this person is a weirdo. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have anticipated that beforehand, but to now tell them

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<v Speaker 1>that it's mean. So instead of horrifying them with extra

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<v Speaker 1>baggage that they cannot shed, just ghost them. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of thoughts about this. And don't hit

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<v Speaker 1>them with the with the harsh ghost, don't hit them

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<v Speaker 1>with the shady of all ghosts. Hit them with a

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<v Speaker 1>soft ghost. Just wean them off you in the most

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<v Speaker 1>delicate sensitives considered an intentional way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need to know how to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to do that. So you're on board,

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<v Speaker 2>Well you need to explain to me how you can

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on board or not, because I'm not on board?

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<v Speaker 1>So what would be the better thing to do? You're

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<v Speaker 1>not into someone, or you tell them what you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like about them to their face and traumatize them. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you my method. Great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should always let someone know what the

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<v Speaker 2>go is. I don't like the idea of people having like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's it called false hope because I've been in this

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<v Speaker 2>situation where someone's kind of like breadcrumbed me, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>do I text you again? And then I do, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>See that perfect because you have an opportunity to decide

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself. I think it's really unfair for us to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a date and me say, hey, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to work out for reasons I will not explain,

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<v Speaker 1>but or for reasons I will explain, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like what you do for work, or I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>that opinion you had on this thing. It's like, okay, cool, great,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know you, so go away. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. I'm happy to tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>So then they don't like me, because if I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>honest and I hurt their feelings, They're not gonna like me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's doing them a service.

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<v Speaker 1>So I never ghost. I'll tell you straight air.

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<v Speaker 2>If I don't like you, and if I don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that I don't like you, it means I like

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<v Speaker 2>you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my hand up in the air because I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to ask the question.

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<v Speaker 2>YEP.

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<v Speaker 1>I want anyone who has dated Fruminda, anyone who has

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<v Speaker 1>been had a casual talking situation. Anyone who has expressed

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<v Speaker 1>interest in freeing at score Nowhere, Please let me know

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<v Speaker 1>how she let you downswer Please let me know did

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<v Speaker 1>she ghost you? I think she would have ghosted you.

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