1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: I asked just a little while ago, have you had 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: your COVID vaccine yet? Because since the roll out launched 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: in February, there have been one hundred and three thousand, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy six doses recorded and more than 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: thirty one thousand Territorians are now fully vaccinated against COVID. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Nineteen now joining me on the line to talk more 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: about the vaccine rollout and the opening of the vaccine hub, 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the Health Minister, Natasha Files. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Katie, Good morning. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Was it now? 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Minister? 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Firstly, how are we looking when it comes to those 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: COVID numbers? Was there anything new from overnight? 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: No, Katie, there hasn't been any COVID cases in the 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Northern Territory in the last twenty four hours. I think 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: we're sitting at eleven cases in the territory with seventeen 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: from that pan of my cluster. 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Well, that is good to hear, and I'm sure music 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: to the ears of a lot of Territorians who are 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: still wondering about these restrictions. I do want to ask, though, 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to those test results, are they all 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: back now and are we looking as though we're pretty 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: safe in terms of moving forward to. 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Katie, there's been over fourteen hundred tests conducted in the 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: last twenty four hours and a huge twenty two thousand, 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: eight hundred tests completed in the last week. All of 27 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: those tests of people outstanding to date have been negative. 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: For my understanding that all those results from the bus 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: club and the Stuart Park ida have returned negative tests. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: So did you say twenty two thousand, eight hundred tests in. 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: The last week, Katie. And in the territory, you know, 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: since COVID began, there's been over two hundred and sixty 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: two thousand tests completed overall. But yes, that figure of 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: twenty two thousand, eight hundred in the last week. We 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: certainly saw territorians, you know, reach out to be tested 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: and we appreciate their patients, and you know, think that 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: people can see through those numbers and the negative test 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: result that you know, both the lockdown and the testing 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: is so important and getting on top of this virus. 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: What about the waste water with our wastewater, how are 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: those tests looking. Have we found any COVID or have 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: we had any COVID detected in any of that wastewater testing. 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Katie, I haven't seen the wastewater testing for the last 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. But when I was briefed yesterday, all 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: of the wastewater testing was negative where you would expect 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: it to be, except for our Stove Road in Howard Springs, 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: which is clearly the quarantine facility, and Royal darrel In Hospital. 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: I believe there were some traces there, but we've been 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: providing care for people with COVID in the hospitals that 50 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: you would expect that. Alice Springs wastewater testing has still 51 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: been negative as well. 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: So sorry, just repeat that. 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: So out at Howard Springs and also at Royal dal 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: And Hospital, around those areas there had been some COVID detected. 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Correct. The two catchments that we know that those facilities 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: feed into had picked up some particles, but everywhere else 57 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: in the territory was clear. 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: And with that wastewater, that is what you would have expected, 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: given the fact that, as you said, obviously, out at 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Howard Springs we know that there's cases out there, and 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that at Royal dal And Hospital there's people 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: being cared for. 63 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Correct, Katie. And so this is why we you know, 64 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: sort of all the way along there's been questions around 65 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: the world what is testing that it's a tool to 66 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: help us when we know that we've had the virus 67 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: potentially present in our community, and so it just reinforces 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: all these test results and again this waste. What are 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: testing reinforces that we don't have community transmission, but we 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: must still remain vigilant. 71 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: All right now, Minister, the vaccine rollout is forging ahead 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, more than one hundred thousand dos. 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: It's recorded sixteen point four percent of Territorians now fully vaccinated, 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: compared to the national average of eight point four percent. 75 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Why do you reckon we're ahead of the rest of 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: the nation at this point, Helly, I haven't. 77 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Stopped to think about that, you know, in terms of 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: comparing to other jurisdictions. We've just been focused on the 79 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: task at hand, which is a program in both urban 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: and remote areas. And it's important too for people to 81 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: understand that the remote program is progressing very well. Thirty 82 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: two percent of territories to have a remote address in 83 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: our health database have also been vaccinated, so we certainly 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: have seen territorians rolling up their sleeves and as a 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: government and the Aboriginal medical organizations, we're responding by providing 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: that strongnation program. 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: We know though there are still so many people who 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: are trying to book at this point in time. I've 89 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of people get in contact with me 90 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: saying I want to get the vaccine, but every time 91 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I jump online to book, there's no appointments available. Is 92 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: there going to be more appointments come online? 93 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie. In the next couple of weeks, We've got 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: seven additional GP locations who are going to come online 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: to administer the vaccine. In July. We are opening the 96 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: vaccination center at Morara tomorrow, so we'll be closing down 97 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: rozo On Hospital to the public and we'll be pivoting 98 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: to the new vaccination center at Marara, and as additional 99 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: vaccine becomes available, we'll put more appointments online. We did 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: put up nearly two thousand appointments last week and they 101 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: were snapped up fairly quickly. Additionally, we had those people 102 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 2: in the age fifty to fifty nine that were booked 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: for AstraZeneca, we rebooked them for five because they were 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: caught up in that at HAWG. The advice that changed, 105 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: So we do ask people to just be patient. There 106 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: is more vaccine coming and I'm working with the Department 107 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 2: of Health to make sure that there's more appointmentsarticularly for Darwin, 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: Urban and Catherine. Understand that there's availability in other areas 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: in the territory, but focusing on Darwin and Catherine. 110 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Right, So we've got enough or it's not as if 111 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: we're not getting enough vaccine at this point from the 112 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: federal government. It's more that we're just trying to get 113 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: through all those vaccinations that have been booked in. 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: So Katie, we're working closely with the Commonwealth. There's only 115 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: a certain amount of vaccine coming into the country. The 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: common moth are providing that to the states and territories. 117 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Once we have our allocation confirmed, we're able to put 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: bookings into the system. And by opening up this new 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: hub at Marra, we're expecting from the Commonwealth increased supplies, 120 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: particularly through July, August and October, so we'll be able 121 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: to match the increased supply with availability of appointments. 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, Minister, We've got quite a few listener questions 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: that are coming through. There's one here that this one 124 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: actually came through yesterday. Masks on construction sites. 125 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Are they needed? 126 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the same rule applies in terms of mass. 127 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: If you cannot physical distance of that one and a 128 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: half meters, you need to wear a mask. So it 129 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: might just depend on the construction site in terms of 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 2: you know, if they're in close proximity doing some tiling 131 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: or some indoor work, that they will need to wear 132 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: that mark. But if they're outside perhaps and there's the 133 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: physical distance between them, then the same rule applies that 134 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: if you can maintain that one and a half meters, 135 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: you don't need to wear a mask. So it's the 136 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: same rule as in the community as it is on 137 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: a construction site. 138 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: All right. Another one here at Crack a Knight. When's 139 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: it happening? 140 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: The Chief Ministry, I know territory and is a key 141 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: to know when they're going to be able to have 142 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: crack a Nite and he's working on making announcement around that. 143 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: All right. 144 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: One here on the NT website it says businesses can 145 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: still still do manual signing. 146 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: Is that still applicable? 147 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: So Katie, with the QR check in code the app 148 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: it is obviously faster and more convenient for people, But yes, 149 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: businesses can still have a manual lob. There's some people 150 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: that might not have a phone on them for various reasons. 151 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: They might want to use a manual check in, so 152 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: they can do that. 153 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Jim's definitely closed because the listener has alluded us 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: to one being opened at this point in time. 155 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: So Katie, my understanding is that Jim's fell into that 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: category where they couldn't be opened. So someone does believe 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: that something's not quite right, they should reach out to 158 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: one three one TRIPUL four, which is a non emergency 159 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: police number. Police are doing that enforcement, or they can 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: reach out to the COVID Lotlink COVID hotline sorry and 161 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: provide that information. 162 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Now, are we on track to lift these restrictions on Friday? 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: So things are certainly looking very promising, but we mustn't 164 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: become complacent over the next few days. So we need 165 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: people to make sure they're wearing those masks. If you're 166 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: not feeling well at all, reach out to get tested. 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: There's plenty of testing capability available this week. So things 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: are looking good and the Chief Minister and myself will 169 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: talk to our health officials over the coming days ahead 170 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: of that expected list down a lotning us their restrictions. 171 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: So what about Alice Springs, When are they two to 172 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: come out of those restrictions. 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Is Katie that the same on Friday one pm will 174 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: assess both the top end in Central Australia. 175 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so we will do both on Friday. It'll be 176 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Allie Springs and also Darwin. If all goes well, it's 177 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: looking like one pm Friday those restrictions could be lifted. 178 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie. We just need it to make sure with 179 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: our health officials that it is safe to do so 180 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: that we're not putting ourselves in unnecessary risk. That we 181 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: make sure that you know, we did the hard yards 182 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: last week with that complete lockdown people, have you know 183 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: those measures in place this week of mass and gatherings 184 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: that private residents is being limited, et cetera. We just 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: need to make sure it's safe to list those restrictions, all. 186 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Right, Minister. 187 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you a couple of questions 188 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: about the IICAC report. We know the IKAK reporting to 189 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: the twelve fillion dollar grant for the grand Stand continues 190 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to raise concerns. Bret Dixon's legal team wrote to the 191 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Chief Minister Michael Gunner last week saying that his former 192 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: chief of staff actively encouraged the application for the twelve 193 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: billion dollar NT government grant for the construction of that 194 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: grand stand because it was enthusiastically supported by mister Gunner personally. 195 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Did the Chief Minister push for this to happen amongst 196 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: the cabinet because he wanted a good news story for 197 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: his electorate. 198 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that would be a question for the Chief Minister, 199 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: but that's not my understanding. That the capitol grant was 200 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: awarded to the Dulin Turf Club as an infrastructure project. 201 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: It was considered by cabinet as a results of under 202 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: allocation in the twenty eighteen nineteen Capital Works program. It's 203 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: important to note the ARCAC made no findings against the 204 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: government and we acknowledged at the time nearly two years 205 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: ago that the process did not meet the expectations that 206 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: the public had of us. So I think that, you know, 207 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: this was a project that did add you know, it 208 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: was an infrastructure project for the community, and the rcacs 209 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: made their findings around the processes. You know that that 210 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: happened under you. 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: Are the Minister for Racing. I mean, was there a 212 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: push from the Chief Minister or his staff, the staff 213 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: in his office for this project to go ahead? 214 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: My point of view, it was a capitol grant awarded 215 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: to the Turf Club for an infrastructure projects. I believe, 216 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: as the Minister for Racing added value to the Turf 217 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Club and to the Darwin community, and we need to 218 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: look at the economic return that racing does bring and 219 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: in terms of visitation etc. The processes around that. The 220 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: IKAC has made recommendations and Cabinet has provided in principal 221 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: support for all eighteen of those recommendations. Some are already 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: being implemented. So the government has also said that we 223 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: don't believe that the processes that the Turf Club put 224 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: in place were acceptable and we will recover the twelve 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: million dollars from the Darwin Turf Club. 226 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: I mean at this point in time though a lot 227 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: of people don't really know whether the processes that were 228 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: in place from the cabinets perspective were correct or were 229 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: appropriate ones. So either because those Cabinet documents and the 230 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: IKAK didn't have the ability to look into that. 231 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: So kdie A capitol grant was awarded to the Turf Club, 232 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: you know as one of a number of infrastructure projects. 233 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: But in terms of the undeclared conflicts of interest when 234 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: they are exposed, the government has thought to recover those 235 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: public funds. I mean we were lied to as a government. 236 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,479 Speaker 2: We initially did when the tender went out have concerns. 237 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: The Department of Business went in and asked questions and 238 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: we have since seen the ikak you have far more 239 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: invested in its power go in look into this matter 240 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: and find that there was underclared conflicts of interests exposed 241 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: and so that's why the government is seeking to get 242 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: those public funds up. 243 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess the thing is here, you know, 244 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: I asked the Deputy Chief Minister this yesterday as well. 245 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the report states that al f Leonardi was 246 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: discussing this proposal with the turf Club chair over a. 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: Number of years. 248 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: And there is still I think a cloud over the 249 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: fact that, you know, the Chief Minister saying that there's 250 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: things that he didn't know that his chief of staff 251 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: was doing. But taking into account how you run your office, 252 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: do you really think that people believe that the Chief 253 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Minister had no knowledge whatsoever of what was going on 254 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. 255 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the Ikas made no findings against the government 256 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: or any minute and so I think that people need 257 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: to understand that there has been a thorough investigation by 258 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: the IKAK, something that was established by this labor government 259 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: to have the powers to go in. As I just 260 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: pointed to, we asked questions, the Department of Business asked 261 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: questions a couple of years ago and were lied to. 262 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: The IKAK has the powers to go further than that, 263 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: and that was proved in this case. Yeah. 264 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: But again the point here is that you know, the 265 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: ikak's not able to go into that decision making process 266 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: by the cabinet. Now the CLP says that the Chief 267 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: Minister needs to clear the air and release all the 268 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: cabinet documents upon which the ministers decided to grant that 269 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: twelve million dollars to the Darwin Turf Club. Why don't 270 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: the government just do this and clear the air, So, Katie, the. 271 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: IKAK has had a thorough investigation. They made no findings 272 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: against the government or any minister. It was a capital 273 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: grant awarded to the Turf Club for an infrastructure project, 274 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: which is not unusual towards the end of financial year 275 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: to see capital grants the infrastructure projects. And we've seen 276 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: a thorough investigation from the IKAK, something that a labor 277 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: government established. So that unfortunately, when we do have situations 278 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: like these. Territorians can know the truth, but there was 279 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: no findings against any government minister. 280 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: You are the Minister for Racing. Are you going to 281 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: be attending the Cup Carnival? 282 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: So, Kennie, it's a difficult period right now. The Darlin 283 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: Turf Club board needs to resign and I see that 284 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: a number of those members have done. Though. We need 285 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: to make sure that all of this is you know, 286 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: that the public funds are repaid, that we have structures 287 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: within the associations that to know that we can have 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: confidence in the Darlin Turf Club in the ways of 289 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: these findings. So A'll await to see those actions before 290 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: I make a decision on what Cup events I attend. 291 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, like you've said, they are going to 292 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: be having to pay that money back if they have 293 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: to pay that money back, which which I think a 294 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: lot of Territorians believe that they should have to do. 295 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: But they are going to have to pay that money back. Understandably, 296 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: that's going to have a big impact on their operational 297 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: costs over the next few years. Do you think that 298 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: it's going to cause some difficulties in terms of delivering 299 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: a Cup carnival that's to the same standard as what 300 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: we've seen. 301 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: So what we needed we need the Doe and Turf 302 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: Club board to resign. That's the first step in showing 303 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: that they genuinely want to you know, racing. I know 304 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: that there's many people involved in racing that are good people, 305 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: horse owners, jockeys, people that attend the Cup Carnival regularly. 306 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: We need to have confidence that that whole system that 307 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: is lied to government and that has you know, covered 308 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: things up from government, that there is changes there. So 309 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: that's the first step that we're looking towards is the 310 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: resignation of the Turf Club board. We've said that they 311 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: need to repay that twelve million dollars. We haven't ruled 312 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: out commencing civil action to get that, but it will 313 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: be a difficult space. But the first step is for 314 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: the Turf Club board to resign. 315 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Well, my understanding now is that the members did do 316 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: that vote, so yesterday would obviously report it on the 317 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: fact that that the members have decided. So over the weekend, 318 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the Dough and Turf Club have said that they're set 319 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: to find a new board after the members called for 320 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the opportunity to select new represent its following that release 321 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: of the report. So as my understanding is that that 322 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: is going to be happening that obviously that process is 323 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: now underway. 324 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: So Katie, we need to see for the full resignation 325 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: of the board of the Darlin Turf Club as the 326 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: first step in the right direction. 327 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: And so if the board, if all of that board 328 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: resigns and they're on the path to a new way forward, 329 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: you will attend the Cup Carnival. 330 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: Oh Katie, I think that you know right now we 331 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: haven't seen the full resignation. So I'd like to see 332 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: the full resignation and I'd like to see a genuine 333 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: approach from a turf club to rectify what has happened 334 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: before I commit to attending any turf club event. 335 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: All right, Health Minister Natasha Files, also Minister for Racing 336 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: and also Minister for Tourism, we are going to have 337 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: to leave it there. 338 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time today. 339 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie. 340 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: That is the Health Minister there, Natasha Philes