WEBVTT - What To Never Say To A Real Estate Agent 🏘️ 💼

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Ferens i'n cater the flexen Frooms Big Icon

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<v Speaker 1>Energy podcast recorded live It's Studios three oh one in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>At this rate, we have beef with every community. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is the spice of life. A

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of conflicte keeps the blood flow up, cortisol

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<v Speaker 1>levels slightly above average. But I think that works best

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<v Speaker 1>for both of us real estate agents. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on your back, right, don't kick the

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<v Speaker 1>little one when he's down, but unfortunately disappointed. Huh no,

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<v Speaker 1>ignore me? Are you the little one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that to your jobs. Sabe you're a big dog.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for me has been houseless, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say we saw coming. But when you plan

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<v Speaker 1>a euro trip and know that your lease is up

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<v Speaker 1>before you get back, I feel like that was bound

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hidrata and a high drama experience. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was worth it. Yeah, paid no rent in Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>came back to a rental crisis. Wasn't saying that coming,

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<v Speaker 2>but eventually becoming a better person one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So here is the thing. I feel like we should

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<v Speaker 1>all mass migrate to Hobart. I've started for us. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something about going to live in a city where you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't missed the boat on every opportunity ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like something about Sydney. I remember when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, my mom was like, oh my goodness, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to live, so hard to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do this. You can't even buy things inexpensive anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get a sausage roll the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even like sausage rolls. My earliest memory with

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<v Speaker 1>one was when I had a sausage roll and pineapple

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<v Speaker 1>chunks in primary school, came home vomited it up. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to like, I'm trying to eat more foods,

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<v Speaker 1>like different types of food. Do I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a sausage roll as at the airport? Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>eleven dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, an airport sausage roll is never going.

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<v Speaker 1>To really hit anyway. So that's neither here nor there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is plaguing my mind. What hasn't been, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is your living situation, which unfortunately for me is not

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<v Speaker 1>great but.

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<v Speaker 2>Fortunately for you, is getting better. Anyway, let's speed it up,

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<v Speaker 2>spice it up up. Next is a voice note from

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<v Speaker 2>a friend explaining what another friend did potentially the worst

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<v Speaker 2>pocket dial adjacent experience that I've heard of in recent times.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's coming up next on the podcast Let's Go.

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<v Speaker 2>I am currently in the process of looking for a house.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know, here in Sydney there's a rental crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a rental crisis all around Australia, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the Sydney's Eastern Subway, where I have chosen.

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<v Speaker 3>To live, it's particularly bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta pay a premium, and that premium happens to

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<v Speaker 2>have gone up by twenty percent, and I'm a tired ass.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be spending my money on rent.

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<v Speaker 3>I spend money on a mortgage. SIS is not there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I'm looking for a three bedroom house, which is

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<v Speaker 2>particularly difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really come across three bedroom houses. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>in two bedrooms, one study type of thing. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>So a friend of mine went to that. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>moving with two friends. A friend of mine went and

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<v Speaker 2>looked at a house for us. But this other friend's

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool with me.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've recently been looking for houses across the eastern

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<v Speaker 4>suburbs of Sydney, and as you know, it's extremely competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>So our game plan was to really butter up the

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<v Speaker 4>real estate agents, like really schmooz them, be their best friend, like,

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<v Speaker 4>be really friendly inspections because financially we aren't able to

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<v Speaker 4>give them like two hundred dollars above the offer. So

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<v Speaker 4>our friend she went to one of the inspections, first

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<v Speaker 4>met the real estate agent like, had a really good

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<v Speaker 4>like chat to him, and then was messaging him and

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<v Speaker 4>send him a message saying looking forward to hearing back

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<v Speaker 4>from you today. Had such a great time, loved the apartment,

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<v Speaker 4>and then she went to message me, but messaged him

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<v Speaker 4>again and said residential real estate agents are just the

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<v Speaker 4>worst people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he.

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<v Speaker 4>Replied, I suppose that Texas not meant for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it?

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<v Speaker 4>Cheers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long time since I've been embarrassed, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Residential real estate agents not the worst, the worst people.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the craziest thing about I can't believe this

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<v Speaker 2>actually happened. And in the time since, I have stopped

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<v Speaker 2>looking with these two women only because the appearance of

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<v Speaker 2>a three bedroom house in the eastern suburbs who are

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<v Speaker 2>looking very grim.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they're in a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a pickle because now their names are on file

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<v Speaker 2>for this very prestigious, very well known real estate. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were the guy and you've got a message

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<v Speaker 2>like that, surely you put him on a blacklist?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the blacklist real?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like, anyone here a real estate agent?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you honest? Be honest? Has anyone been blacklisted or

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<v Speaker 1>has experience with someone who's been blacklisted? Oh? You have fives?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but you're not a real estate babe. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe black Wow. Do you think it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>really sophisticated scare tactic? If we're all assuming there's this

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<v Speaker 1>like blacklist that we're all trying not to be on,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we are on the side of caution, We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying not to be like prickly or do anything so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get blacklisted. But there's this many people in

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<v Speaker 1>a room, and we know how many people and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows of anyone who's been blacklisted. Maybe it's fake.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think blacklisting exists, I just mean more in

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<v Speaker 2>a real estate capacity, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what is a blacklist? Is it a physical list.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there like a network of people putting them into

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<v Speaker 2>a document.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is assuming that to the real estate agent,

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<v Speaker 1>your friend's names were that memorable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's pretty it's pretty funny, Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>were him, you'd be screen showing it sending around you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bella property or.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the Rubenstein group.

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<v Speaker 3>We should you Gavin on this segment.

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<v Speaker 1>See what how you respond? I mean, I reckon, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. To be honest, you might not be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I saw a video that Domain posted a

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<v Speaker 1>little like Tiki talking whatever, of seventy people lining up

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<v Speaker 1>for seven hundred a week two bedroom. Generally that's not unusual, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never line like, if that's why people are going,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. You're not getting the apartment, just tap out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but someone's gonna win it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about all that. To be fair, I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>story was worthwhile just to say it's been done before. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I want all my interactions with my real estate. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have any kind of commotion, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be postly signing total I'm going ham I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>care anymore. I feel like I've been like seamonged into

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<v Speaker 1>being like, don't do this, don't say this. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>charity work, especially renting in Sydney. You're gonna hear from

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<v Speaker 1>me King.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited hopefully I've heard that there might be

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<v Speaker 2>a tenant. You know how we have to give like

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<v Speaker 2>good referra. We have to get referrals to be given

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<v Speaker 2>a house. I think now there's talk about being getting

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<v Speaker 2>well who are the people that win them.

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<v Speaker 3>Or landlord landlord references?

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that TikTok mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And there it was that comedian that started at what's

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<v Speaker 3>his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you dny when I'll see that TikTok or that

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<v Speaker 2>comedian and be like, yeah, we need to get landlords

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<v Speaker 2>giving references. I literally read an article that's like this

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<v Speaker 2>actually might happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But not to be devil's I'd recur. But even if

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<v Speaker 1>there are landlord references, rent is still on in the

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<v Speaker 1>position where even having that reference is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>easier for them to find a place to live. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the point remains that like it is like a systemic

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<v Speaker 1>issue where houses are a commodity. Therefore people will never

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<v Speaker 1>be able to fairly get you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. So put the pressure on your real estate agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you're in a mutual agreement anyway? Were he If

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to suffer, let's both suffer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm calling up for the mold.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm calling up for any little things, little ship on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, I'm calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm like, the TAP's leaking, and they're like, did

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<v Speaker 1>you check? No, you fix it?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's on that well rapitch that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly thought it's going to be a voice member

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<v Speaker 1>from the real estate agent. You geat it up? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, was it worth a payoff for your paddler, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sympathy paddles.

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<v Speaker 1>They would never do that, would never do that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are someone who is spending a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet, you've definitely heard people speak about how

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<v Speaker 1>social media is rotting our brains and our attention span

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is trying to not shame myself about enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the fruits of the Internet's labor, I've been thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the big deal? Like, yes, let's say TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>is rotting our brains? What will be saving them for?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying, Like, if that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to rute our brains, what do we need the

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<v Speaker 1>full brain capacity to do? Yeah? Yeah, do you see

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? This is my thing. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that somehow we can take a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 1>joyous things and then just like change them for a

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<v Speaker 1>counter conversation devil's advocate narrative. And I'm a devil's advocate,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get it. It's fun to idate about, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's this different side of the story, But then

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the point where we like shame and

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<v Speaker 1>demonize fun things. I know there are heaps of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like, oh no, Like I definitely have a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible relationship with my body because of social media, and

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely have like you know, indoctrinated myself or internalized

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bad ideas. But for the vast majority,

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<v Speaker 1>every day it brings you joy, access to your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>access to broader ideas, lifestyles you would never have experienced before.

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<v Speaker 1>And every day you come home talking about spraiunning my

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<v Speaker 1>brain new slash. We weren't using it. Well, anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anyone before social media who was really challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean aside from the philosophers. And even then, like

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<v Speaker 1>you really look at what philosophers were riding and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like thoughts, okay, what I was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make a sound? Yeah, genius, be real, be for real?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying. So even before then,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't even doing much. And have you seen Limitless?

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<v Speaker 1>Paddles up? Who's seen Limitless with Bradley Cooper? You got

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? You know what action movies? Wow, tough crap. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Limitless is this movie, this action movie with Bradley Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>and he takes his pill that is meant to give

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<v Speaker 1>him access to his full brain capacity. He takes this

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<v Speaker 1>pill that takes him from about eight percent brain capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like average is what we all have, to

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<v Speaker 1>the full one hundred and he's like, whoa, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing four dy five D, I smell, taste, I taste

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<v Speaker 1>sense or whatever. And then so I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>that and it's like by the end of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>it was too much for him. He was like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need all of this, Like I'm a prisoner in

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<v Speaker 1>my own simple man, literally, And so I'm thinking even

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<v Speaker 1>with us, like we are so sure that without this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that is rotting our brains that we weren't already

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be rotted anyway, now we get pleasure out of

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<v Speaker 1>it totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Who feels I'm gotta be diplomatic about this, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who feels that TikTok positively impects their life in a

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<v Speaker 2>sense that even if it wasn't addictive, you would still

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<v Speaker 2>love it?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Who feels as if they've seen something really awful that

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<v Speaker 2>they wish they didn't see on TikTok?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say what you saw? Just any ideas? Not traumaduant,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious, let's rephrase that for the real world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who thinks that they have experienced joy from life paddles up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was experienced and they wouldn't want to experience in life?

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<v Speaker 2>Up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It was always going to happen, true, true, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's such a cop out to attribute it

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<v Speaker 1>all to an app that didn't come with a ruled book,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come with a guide book. Removing all of your

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<v Speaker 1>agency to be like this app is the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>or why not lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I will say TikTok is very interesting in showing

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<v Speaker 2>you what your mind is doing at one point. Like

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<v Speaker 2>let's say you feel really sad, but you haven't put

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<v Speaker 2>your finger on it. The shit that TikTok is giving

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<v Speaker 2>you is showing you what's actually wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'll be like, do I feel bad? Do I

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<v Speaker 3>not feel bad? And then I'll start getting all these

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<v Speaker 3>like depression tiktoks.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a placebo.

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<v Speaker 2>No I swear, I swear, and it comes to other instances.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this more in depth in

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<v Speaker 2>a different scenario, but if you've ever experienced disordered eating,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Trigger warning.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a period in my life where it was bad,

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<v Speaker 2>like a year ago. I would get so many eating

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<v Speaker 2>disordered tiktoks, like people going through it, people talking about

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<v Speaker 2>what they ate in a day, like it, to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where I'm sure that the algorithm is doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's absolutely no ifs and butts, because now I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get any ed tiktoks.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you think an algorithm works?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's still It's what I'm trying to say is

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't ask to see that content. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually actively seek it out. I would scroll past them,

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<v Speaker 2>but they would still come up because it's looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my face.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Tiktoks sees your face.

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<v Speaker 1>It definitely does track your eye movements though, so it

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<v Speaker 1>can see when you're enjoying stuff. I still love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still on the top twisted, but just saying, can

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<v Speaker 2>you see what it does in ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fearmonger. I'll say nothing more. Big icon energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So something that I've noticed with FLEXI lately is her

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<v Speaker 2>lexicon changing and shifting.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and I spend.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a lot of time together just talking pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>just in a radio based capacity, Like we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>share that many thoughts outside of the studio. We keep

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<v Speaker 2>them to ourselves and then we dump them in the

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<v Speaker 2>studio and we go on and live our lives. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>tell creative integrity, work life balance. But someone that I've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed flex do lately, it started last week.

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<v Speaker 1>She's coming into the.

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<v Speaker 2>Office three weeks, but we'll take and she comes in

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<v Speaker 2>using a very particular vernacular that I've only ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>in high school, with a certain demographic footy lads. Flex

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<v Speaker 2>has started speaking like a footy lad.

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<v Speaker 3>It started out with.

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<v Speaker 2>A phrase that I think we started using a few

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<v Speaker 2>months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've just picked it up with steam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is getting near it? Correct? You put

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<v Speaker 1>your paddle up?

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<v Speaker 3>If you know what that means?

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<v Speaker 1>Getting near it? Anyone? Yeah? Can I ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>you think it means?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>There close? Anyone else? Come on? Someone screaming out?

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<v Speaker 3>What's getting near it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? My god?

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<v Speaker 2>The man in sitting in the back of the room

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<v Speaker 2>with glasses on in a tracksuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is that? I would also say, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>all say to be fair, it has a broad range

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<v Speaker 1>of meetings. Like if I'm saying something's cooked, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think cooked means?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool? Exactly? Is it cool? Is it crazy? Is it uncomfortable?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it weird? It's all of it. Getting near it

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<v Speaker 1>is specifically sexy. No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting near it? Well, what did I say this sort

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<v Speaker 3>of say?

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<v Speaker 2>There is a very particular vernacular that he's been created

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<v Speaker 2>in charge rooms, in footy boys, old boys, footy boys,

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<v Speaker 2>in school AFL rooms. You see it when they do

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<v Speaker 2>the live telecasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting near it?

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<v Speaker 2>What are some others salad you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't tossing salad the hair in your head like

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a rough salad, or you got a rough lid.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you're ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what else have I got here? Day for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, day for it?

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<v Speaker 2>Clack class, fun, punching, cutting grass, and a bit of alright,

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<v Speaker 2>what I've noticed a lot of these are very sex oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for you, I just think, Okay, so here's

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<v Speaker 1>my thing, Like I'm area's thinking about language. And I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke before about how, like my greatest thing, like my life, ick,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that really like frustrates me, is misunderstood, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about how much time I spent trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the perfect words and the perfect verbiage to

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly communicate whatever. It's all just a leaders and boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to use all the words. And I

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<v Speaker 1>often find that, like you've said, you've attributed this type

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<v Speaker 1>of language to the type of person. It's so exclusionary,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that's the issue with how people

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<v Speaker 1>approach language generally, is like, if you speak a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>then you must be this person, and therefore we only

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<v Speaker 1>allow you to like see the world through that particular lens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just don't like it because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing the opposite of what language should do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is unite and connect and bridge the gap in understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now when I see language, I just like

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate it in hopes that it gives me the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understanding to talk to more people or to make

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<v Speaker 1>people more comfortable with speaking to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, so we're appealing to a new audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you regrets it's generally in life. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>would hate the idea of someone being like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't speak to her or speak with her because I can.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like she's giving me a vibe that says that

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't understand me, or like she wouldn't allow for

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<v Speaker 1>this type of conversation. But you can all stay. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>determine it after you've spoken, not Throst and Block, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it is, Footy Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Inclusion is very, very important at the Flex and Froom show.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also something about we were speaking about it earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like when you're in high school, you learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to use a billion words to say nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>essay approach, like in order to unpack the thing of

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<v Speaker 1>the word it's okay too much, and then you might

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<v Speaker 1>overcorrect and not know how to articulate yourself because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to oversimplify everything. Everything's a vibe, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's vibe. It's vibes, you know, and it's like, okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but what does that mean. I'm trying to find the

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<v Speaker 1>way to like do all of it, you know, use

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<v Speaker 1>as many words or as little words and still have

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<v Speaker 1>as like validating the connection with people and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And just before we head onto the next break, I

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<v Speaker 2>was having a comes with someone the other day. What

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<v Speaker 2>did we used to say before he said sleigh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people just say, oh, slay, slay, slay to anything. Does

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<v Speaker 2>anyone remember I swear there was a word before Literally

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<v Speaker 2>it's the slay sligh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't say sleigh that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Put your paddle up sleigh swag Yeah maybe No, who

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<v Speaker 2>said swag swaggy swaggy? I would have said that's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just didn't graduate from Paris Hilton. Anyway, if

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<v Speaker 2>you come up with what we said before slay, please

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<v Speaker 2>see me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's plaguing my brother. Nah vie stay sick. Vibe is

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<v Speaker 1>less new than slay right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then before Vibe there was mint No yes, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you, but that was.

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<v Speaker 1>So long ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's what I mean. That was yes, Vibe slay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's there's a few things in between

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. Period. It was period on fleek. It was

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<v Speaker 1>on fleek.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna rile these down the break. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>why I love a period. That's why I love a

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<v Speaker 3>last shooting audience FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, literally, because you couldn't google that knowledge in the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>This is community. My dms were a scary place a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. Do you remember that when people

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was living in a dungeon?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that hit different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be good about my privacy, and now

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<v Speaker 1>everyone thinks I'm a gremlin troll. But every now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>when I go through my dms, I like to do

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<v Speaker 1>some screenshots, mine some data, see what the vibes are,

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<v Speaker 1>but also see what conversations are happening outside of what

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<v Speaker 1>we do, because as someone who's been chatting publicly for

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, I feel like I've talked about everything so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that the conversations I want to have are

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<v Speaker 1>not coherent. The conversation I want to have is if

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden this room started flooding and all

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<v Speaker 1>the doors were locked, what would we do? But you

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<v Speaker 1>know where am I placing that?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it start? Exactly? I digress. It's all about blocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently that's what people want to know if we should

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<v Speaker 1>do anyway. This person says, hey, flex, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're a blocker.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait is she in the audience?

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's not here. This person needs to know if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a blocker? Off top, hands up? If blocking is

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<v Speaker 1>the acceptable way to respond to communication, paddles up. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not enough. You guys need to protect your energy.

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<v Speaker 1>This person wants to know what they should do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very intrigued because I often find whenever we're answering

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of listener dilemma, my approach is always feral

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<v Speaker 1>and direct, and your approach is considered and it's giving

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<v Speaker 1>cute indirect Yeah, like consideredly indirect. But listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy used to see very casually over four years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Likes to message me every now and then. They always

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<v Speaker 1>come back, don't they. He was way more into me

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<v Speaker 1>than I was into him. Naturally, and he was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>devo when we broke it off, despite having only been

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<v Speaker 1>on two dates.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a pest,

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<v Speaker 1>but he messages me every couple of months or so,

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<v Speaker 1>which is annoying. The messages are also weird, like I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you walking the other day and you're looking good lately.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop that king? That one's quite nice, is it not?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would be calling the police, calling the police station, police.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna talk to the police.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm walking into the screenshot. I need witness protection.

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<v Speaker 1>This person says I'm a boyfriend now and he knows

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<v Speaker 1>about the situation, but has never requested a block or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely due to complete just complete disinterest. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weirded out by the fact that he can

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<v Speaker 1>see my picks, comments, likes, hence my contemplation of a block. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the type of guy that would message me

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<v Speaker 1>on another platform to ask why I blocked him. On

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, there is the potential that I would

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<v Speaker 1>run into him somewhere he would confront me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't want to give him the satisfaction of

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<v Speaker 1>the block, like I care enough to block him, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent chance. I'm overthinking this, but interested to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you would do, because I value your opinions

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<v Speaker 1>quite highly through me. This is why I just block,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just don't feel like it's that deep. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's because I'm interacting with people that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know quite well. So it's like, this is my family

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<v Speaker 1>friend from three years ago. I'm going to block them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I often feel like it's very odd to me

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<v Speaker 1>how much room we make for people who are encroaching

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<v Speaker 1>on our personal safety and comfort, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like or that we have over enthused how difficult it

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<v Speaker 1>would be to just make the decision and see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens after, Like this person is paralyzed by the fear

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<v Speaker 1>that if I do block this person that maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>run into them, or maybe they'll contact me on another platform,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I'll do this or that, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening now is that they're annoying on this platform,

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we fix that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm of the opinion that the only reason why you

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<v Speaker 2>don't block old flames if they're annoying you is if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to stroke your own ego.

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<v Speaker 1>Paddles up if you agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come on, put your laters, put your.

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<v Speaker 2>Paws up, put your browser because you're okay, so okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I believe like it's always nice having the

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<v Speaker 2>one person that you know they'm we're gonna get over you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I just kind of you see my new hair

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<v Speaker 1>or on you see my new job? Yep, look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on a post.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, are you wondering could have been? I could have

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<v Speaker 2>been your ride and die that you let me go.

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<v Speaker 2>So to clarify you, I don't think he listens to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that one of the few reasons why you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't block someone who is acting this way is because

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<v Speaker 1>you want the validation of them seeing you. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't agree with that, please yell. What are the other

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why you wouldn't block someone? Seriously, you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Just mute them?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yep, yep, I like that. Anything else? Why else? Something?

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<v Speaker 1>Just blocking? I need to understand in case they get

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<v Speaker 1>hotter because I'm looking back. I'm not not interacting, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like to be able to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>look at them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very simple. I think everyone sho just

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<v Speaker 1>start blocking. It's truly so fun. But also there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about and what we don't consider enough is like emotional

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<v Speaker 1>energy very finite. You know, the amount of emotional energy

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<v Speaker 1>you can give to something before you're depleted. For yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and the things you want, you got like six bad

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<v Speaker 1>conversations a week before you're knocked out. Now he's taking

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<v Speaker 1>up two three four shame.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>She secretly loves it. That's just me. Today we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about icons, which like I'm very fascinated by because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like people aren't seeing it the way we're seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wonder if people can really truly conceptualize, like

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<v Speaker 1>we have created icons out of mere mortals, regular people

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<v Speaker 1>who do regular things, and we're like, no, they're special.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Newflix disrecording the Ring right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to paint your picture. We're on like a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>elevated stage. There's studio lighting occurring, got cameras on either side.

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<v Speaker 2>We even got cameras on the audience. You're looking slay today,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the best thing. And the people in the

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<v Speaker 2>audience you were invited, I'm quite sure, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've got some influencers in the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't dox anyone, though I do say season familiar faces.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about whether.

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<v Speaker 3>Or not influencers are icons.

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<v Speaker 2>Just that simple sentence, our influences icons paddles up, It happens,

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<v Speaker 2>it's creeps up slowly. May I ask you, why do

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<v Speaker 2>you think influencers are icons?

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<v Speaker 5>I was just thinking about, like all the TikTok is

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<v Speaker 5>that I watch and I just like love them, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think that they've actually influenced my daily life.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, Gorgina, and that's because of a TikTok Regina.

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<v Speaker 5>It is like so ingrained in my daily life now,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's psychoonic.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it help if I read out the definition? I

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<v Speaker 1>do love a definition, okay, shout out to Oxford Webster's

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<v Speaker 1>as well. A person or thing regarded as a representative

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<v Speaker 1>symbol or a person or thing that is worthy of veneration.

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<v Speaker 1>Veneration is like praise, adoration with you. So, by that definition,

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<v Speaker 1>are influences icons, yes or no? Paddles up or down?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, does it change anything with that definition?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends. I feel like sometimes people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>words mean things. You know, we just say some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and then we get confused in the mix or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the earliest influencers are icons because they were

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<v Speaker 2>influencers when the term influencing was a dirty word.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's not a dirty word now? Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think influencer is a dirty word?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Put your paddle up? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, sometimes the paddles go.

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<v Speaker 2>Other times they're like whoa, that was like it whoo,

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<v Speaker 2>which is interesting given the location we're with the people with.

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<v Speaker 1>If you compare it, I think if you compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to like, is artist a dirty word? You're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is musician a dirty word? Is like lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty word? Lawyer's pushing the boundaries? Yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 1>like in a neutral sense. If someone's like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer and like oh, you're like, oh, okay, I'm an influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>people are like oh noah, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>The narrative starts getting painted and it's like Olive Green

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<v Speaker 1>and rancid.

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<v Speaker 2>Does anyone have an idea for why they think influencer

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<v Speaker 2>is a dirty word?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone want to incriminate themselves?

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<v Speaker 7>I just think sometimes when you say influencer, especially like

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<v Speaker 7>what you said about being a dirty word in the past.

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<v Speaker 7>It's also environmental, like where you grow up, so you

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<v Speaker 7>grow up. Lucky for me, I'm surrounded by a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of content, creative friends or influence friends. But if you

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<v Speaker 7>go to a certain demographic and you're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>an influencer, they're just like, you're all about yourself and

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<v Speaker 7>that's not a real job kind of thing. And I

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<v Speaker 7>think that people kind of it's got a bit of

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<v Speaker 7>a stigma to it. And I think that's why, you know, totally, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's like imposed on the influencer that it's

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<v Speaker 2>a dirty word, but they themselves shouldn't feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a dirty word.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't know, Like, wait, what was the question?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I this point, all I say is I.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably used to think influencers was a dirty word. Personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't anymore. Seriously, I'm starting to think, well, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you consider flex an influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna put the paddles up, come on out, you

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<v Speaker 1>did you? Look, I don't want to offend her, so

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<v Speaker 1>you see you did it. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't print him out for no reason. This was funny,

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<v Speaker 2>this was eating into the budget. Do I think influencers

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<v Speaker 2>are icons?

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<v Speaker 3>I can name a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk Coleman, put you put your paws up for Kirk Colemin. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what I asked, just put him up. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Kirk Coleman is the absolute pinnacle of iconic

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<v Speaker 2>because he was an influencer before it was a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he was an influencer on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>So many people made fun of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the butt of so many jokes, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>he always had his slogan of like purf like Kurt,

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<v Speaker 2>that's hot, I'm hot. And it's not until today's day

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<v Speaker 2>and age where like taking potos of yourself and being

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<v Speaker 2>in love with yourself even if it's facetious is celebrated,

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas back then when he did it, we weren't in

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<v Speaker 2>that culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet we're in the culture of like playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Down your hotness or like like I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hot, whereas now I think we we're all being

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk commons, and so I think he's an icon.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's the point, if we're all icons. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought part of I mean that definition didn't go into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of depth. But I always assume part of

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<v Speaker 1>icon status is to be revered way past your time,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>like back when I don't know, Liberaci was doing his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Napoleon or whatever, I don't think at the

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<v Speaker 1>time they were revered as icons. They weren't. They were

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<v Speaker 1>social pariahs and lepers and people that were Seraci was

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, but not in the way now. And

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<v Speaker 1>everyone looks back and it's like, oh my god, icon Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>because we can see the way that you impacted time

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<v Speaker 1>is like so far greater than what you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to realize at the time. Our influence as icons? You think, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think influencers are icons. Like that's not the question,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like, broadly speaking, do

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<v Speaker 1>influencers have the capacity to be iconic? Probably, But like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of the greatest, like most influence

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<v Speaker 1>people in the whole wide world still aren't regarded as icons.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would we divvy it out to someone who,

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<v Speaker 1>on a small scale probably isn't changing the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the world as we know it.

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<v Speaker 3>They quick, wow, big icon energy.

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