1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sophie Casia cheers on her 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: ex at the World Cup, Molly May and Tommy Fury's 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: highly anticipated engagement, Sky Wheatley's Only Fans backflip, and Sophia 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: begs court battle. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influenza and pop culture news twice 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: a week. I'm Amy Torbert, and I'm so excited to 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: say that you guys are officially now my maids of honor. Well, 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: thank goodness, because Sophie and I have been planning your 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: hens party for quite a while. That would have been 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: quite offensive if you hadn't asked us. I do love 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: that you did your proposal in such a unique way 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: because I have been big on TikTok. I've been looking 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: up web tok when I was preparing mine. I saw 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people doing curated boxers, or they were 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: doing high teas or lunches with their friends. But you 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: took us to Gua, which is our favorite place growing up. 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: We always went on our holidays there. And then you 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: also got these custom design jumpers, which aren't your traditional 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: wedding one. They basically had these cartoon characters on there 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: that you you created. It was It's so funny. They're 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: a bit of an in joke. So if is this 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: you trying to say in a roundabout way that it 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: was a bit shit what I did. No, I'm calling 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: you a trendsetter. Maybe we'll see other people doing the 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: same thing. I liked it because it was just you. 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: You didn't go and copy what other people had done. 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Unlike Sophie who copied all of her things off TikTok. No, 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I had a few unique things. What after wrapping all 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: the gifts, I actually checked out the TikTok proposal boxes 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, have I done the 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: wrong thing. I loved it. It was so cute. I have 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: heard a lot of people saying, oh, I think it's 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: so lame when people do proposal boxes. I feel like 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: there's that sort of cool group of people who think 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: that they're above doing that. But I personally love it 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: because I think it's a really special opportunity to sit 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: your group of friends down, write them a card about 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: what they mean to you, and just kind of celebrate 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the fact that you're going to go through it all together. 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Because a lot of bridesmaids and bridesmen have to put 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: up with a lot of shit. Exactly. I still have 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: one more proposal to do. I decided to do it separately. Well, 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: she's pretty much got win that it's happening anyway. She's 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: known for a year and a half. I mean, on 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: that reel that you uploaded, you had a photo of 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: her in the supposal. Well, I didn't want it to 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: think that I wasn't going to ask her, you know, 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: but maybe I shouldn't have included that. Got to keep 49 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: her on her toes, make it a real surprise. What 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: that just makes me think. Imagine if you did think 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: that one of your friends was going to ask you, 52 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the pain of actually seeing one of these proposals put 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: up on social media. Hadn't even thought about that. What 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: do you guys think though? If someone asks you to 55 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: be their brides made you have to ask them back. Well, 56 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: not always. There's obviously circumstances. I wouldn't want to pity invite, 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: but to be honest, I'd probably be pretty upset. I 58 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: think it depends when you were asked. If there's a 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: large time frame between. For instance, if you're friends with 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: someone ten years ago and you're in their wedding, you're 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: no longer friends anymore. Ten years later, you know, things 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: happen and change. I've heard of so many instances where 63 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: people will go to a friend's wedding and that will 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: be the last time they see them. Really, Yes, that's 65 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: actually happened to a friend of mine, and it's not 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: because we had some hideous falling out or anything. It's 67 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: just because we now have different jobs and grow apart. 68 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: It happens a lot. You think it's like when people 69 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: because people usually have kids after they get married and 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: they just take a good time to catch up with 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: their friends. That's a problem that can up. Michael Finch 72 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: has just proven why we all love him so much. 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: So in a recent Q and A, he has been 74 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: brutally honest about why he has moved away from doing 75 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: makeup tutorials. He said two main reasons. One, so many 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: backstabbing comes in that industry. Two got sicker putting toxic 77 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: shit on my skin. Now, I would pay a lot 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: of money to know who these backstabbing are. Well, the 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: YouTube makeup industry in Australia it's not that big. Well, 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he's referring to fellow makeup YouTubers or 81 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: if he's referring to brand owners of makeup, it's kind 82 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: of confusing. I think it's the YouTubers. Yeah. Well, the 83 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: comment about makeup being toxic is an interesting one because 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: he would have put a lot of brands off from 85 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: working with him. Now. Yeah, but he obviously really doesn't 86 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: want to work with them. I mean, I think it's great. 87 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: At least he's been honest, and I think that's why 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: people love him, because he is outspoken and he's not 89 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: willing to take on brand endorsements for companies that he 90 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in. The thing is, makeup marketing has really changed, 91 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: and also the type of makeup that we like has changed. 92 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: We now see people doing the clean girl makeup look, 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: whereas before it was heavy glam when Michael Finch was 94 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: most popular. But I don't think it's completely changed and 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: is really different. It's just now people do TikTok tutorials 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: on makeup rather than YouTube tutorials. Do you think there'd 97 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: be a lot of beauty influencers who would have been 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: pissed off about Michael's comments because it's kind of put 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: the spotlight on them. I suppose everyone's wondering who the 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: cups are. 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: Anyway, this is probably just this crazy sky Wheety moment. 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Probs won't happen. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has caused confusion by teasing she might be 104 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: launching an only fans account. Her comments come after she 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: generated headlines in September for shaming women for earning a 106 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: living from only fans. Now, so we're all up to speed, 107 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: let's throw to what she said. Sorry, let me get 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: me gildo and. 109 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: Why are you doing that? I actually thought about making 110 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: a video about it last night because like I'm fuming 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: about what like just saying like, oh, you know, I 112 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: I like to make my money by approving a product 113 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: and loving a product organically and sharing it with my 114 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: audience rather than myself for the shieldo and making money 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: off and like and like ending marriages your how many 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: girls would go through their boyfriend's phone and see that 117 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: they're secretly subscribed to girls only friends and that's the 118 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: end of the marriage right there? 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Actually, ludicra Well absolutely darling absolutely. 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: Roots roots, freedom of speech, freedom to talk. 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Free a now. In a series of Instagram stories on Friday, 122 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: Sky said that she'd all he made the only fans account, 123 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: but hasn't made it public yet. She also said that 124 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: she has a folder on her phone of OnlyFans pictures 125 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: ready to go. Here's what she. 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: Said, just a disclaimer that there would I don't think 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: I would show nit purely because I'm a mum and 128 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: like I would die if you know that affected them 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: in school or whatever. And there would never be any 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: hardcore pornographic stuff posted to my account, so we're not 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: want to disappoint anyone now. 132 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Sky also said that she would use the account to 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: share the behind the scenes of her breast augmentation surgery. 134 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: She said she'd like to post her journey freely and 135 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: not have to stress about what she's posting. Now. This 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: is in relation to YouTube and Instagram censoring different photos 137 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: and videos, Like we've seen a lot of moms who've 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: been breastfeeding having their photos taken down. So I can 139 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: see in the way why Sky would like a place 140 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: to share videos like this on her breast augmentation. But 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: it seems just so hypocritical to be signing up from 142 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: only fans after all the fuss that was caused last year. Yeah, 143 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: I can't get over the hypocrisy. And it seems like 144 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: that comment that Michael Finch filmed of her is very 145 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: loaded now because I think that she's just jealous that 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: she wasn't able to jump onto OnlyFans like other creators have, 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: and now she's thinking, oh, maybe i'd fuck it, Maybe 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: I just will. The thing that doesn't quite add up 149 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: is that Sky is going in this week for her 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: surgery because, for those who don't know, she got breast 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: implants for free back in twenty fifteen, and the surgery 152 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: was part of a gifted partnership with a medical tourism 153 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: company and the surgery left her with what she called 154 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: a double bubble in her right breast, so she is 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: having surgery to fix that. However, she hasn't yet put 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the date on when this OnlyFans account is going to 157 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: come out, So you would think that she would want 158 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: to capture the initial meetings with the surgeon, which were 159 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: months ago, if she's going to provide an actual proper 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: account of what's happening, and I think she'll be doing 161 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: like this is what it looks like today. I think 162 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: that'd be a lot of disappointed people signing up to 163 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: her only Fans expecting different sorts of content than her 164 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: breast augmentation journey. I'm wondering because clearly there is a 165 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: large demographic of females who watch Anna Paul's content. For example, 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: she's one of the largest only fans creators who also 167 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: has an influencer profile. So I wonder if she's thinking 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: that she's going to gain an audience like that who's 169 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: interested in the breast implant stuff, and then perhaps you 170 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: know she's talking about putting more risky photos on there, 171 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: then that's how she's going to have male males on 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: there as well. I personally don't really think that a 173 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: whole bunch of people are going to be that interested 174 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: in her breast implants journey. Really, I actually think there 175 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: would be quite a few because it's got to pay 176 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: for it, because I think when money is involved, things 177 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: get very different. Like, yes, I would be interested to 178 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: watch her YouTube video about it, would I pay to 179 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: watch it? No? But I actually think that she has 180 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: a more devoted audience than we think. Even when we 181 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: pulled out as Sky Wheatly Deep Dive series, there's so 182 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: many people that love her, and there's so many people 183 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: that want to do their bit to support her. The 184 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: thing is her admissions over wanting to create an OnlyFans 185 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: account came off the back of a series of stories 186 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: where she was talking about how expensive her renovations were 187 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: and how she's going to be doing more renovations SII. 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: So it's hard not to think that this is a 189 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: grab for extra money. Do you think as well, because 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: it seems like advertisers don't have as big a budgets 191 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: to spend anymore because we are potentially going into a recession. 192 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: Do you think that maybe that has affected her influencing 193 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: career and she's thinking, Shit, what other avenues do I 194 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: have to take money? Definitely, because we have heard her 195 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: recently talk about her struggle with her active were brand, 196 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: how everyone assumes that she's making heaps of money but 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: she's not actually And now we've also seen her more 198 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: recently bring out two ebooks related to fitness and health. 199 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: It seems like she's trying to get a lot of 200 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: fingers in pies to make additional money. We've also seen 201 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the fact that Lockie is recently in court over one 202 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: of his shop fitting seeking payment for work he did. Yeah, 203 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: and that house that would be setting them back so 204 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: much money that would be a money pit. I'm surprised 205 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: she didn't opt to go on sun room instead because 206 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: I feel like there is a connotation with only fans 207 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: and the content that is predominantly shared on there, But 208 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: whereas sun Room, that's more for female creators, and if 209 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: that's the sort of content that she wants to share 210 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: about her breast augmentation, I don't know, it just seems 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: like a better fit. Why not do Is Instagram subscription 212 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: still a fair Yeah, she could have done that because 213 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: I think that she does want to share the raw, 214 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: chier side of things, but I think that she wants 215 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: to do it in more of a curated way that 216 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't see affecting her kids in the long term. 217 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: So maybe bikini photos or that sort of thing. Or 218 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: do you think it's because she obviously looks like a 219 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: complete hypocrite to everybody now that she's trying to backtrap, like, no, 220 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm only going to share this stuff. I think that 221 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: she thinks by her saying that she is going to 222 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: be on only fans, it takes away the comments that 223 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: she said, and it looks like she's all for it 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: and she's about female empowerment in that regard. Hey, guys, 225 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: welcome back to my tunnel. In what I would say 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: is one of the most anticipated engagements in recent times. 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Molly May and Tommy Fury are finally engaged. Now, the 228 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: high profile UK couple who met on Love Island four 229 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: years ago. She had the happy news online. Now they 230 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: were holidaying in Ibtha when Tommy proposed in the most 231 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: instagrammable way possible. So he was on a very picturesque 232 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: cliff side decorated by dozens of roses. There was even 233 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: a sign that said you are my forever and always. 234 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: It looked a lot like their baby announcement though, yeah, 235 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: because it was in black and white. Now Tommy had 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: also organized Grammy nominated singer Ruth Ann to sing their 237 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: favorite song, the Vow, and Tommy was in a black 238 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: suit looking very handsome. He was holding their six month 239 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: old daughter, Bambie, who was dressed in an adorable white 240 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: puffy dress. Now, Molly seemed to clearly get the memo. 241 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: She was wearing a white jumpsuit with full glam. I 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: loved it because Molly looked so emotional in this video. 243 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: When she approached Tommy, she was in tears and was 244 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: pretty cute. How they incorporated their daughter into it all. Well, 245 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: this aok came up for the back of their four 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: year anniversary. I saw they did a vlog recently and 247 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Tommy just goes all out, doesn't he, because well, Tommy 248 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: go out. But is it Tommy or is it an 249 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: event plan Well, it's obviously an event planner, like for 250 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: their anniversary, he had so many roses in this hotel room. 251 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: But do you crazy? But do you think it kind 252 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: of loses any specialness when you're doing it all the time? 253 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Like it seems like for any occasion, Like I know 254 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Molly always when Tommy comes back from a fight or something, 255 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: she'll set up her party installation in the house. Like 256 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: how do you keep topping those moments, particularly for an engagement, 257 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: because you said it very much looked like the baby announcement. Well, 258 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: there must be some company that just rubs its hands together, 259 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: because I saw when Davidae and Eckensu from Love Island 260 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: were together, they were doing similar gestures, and I was like, 261 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that on Tommy and Molly. 262 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna say it was a breakup one, 263 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: no break up installation. Yeah, there was definitely a lot 264 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: of chatter online about the engagement looking too staged and 265 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: not being a surprise because Molly was in full lamb, 266 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: she had enormous hair extensions in her beautiful makeup, and 267 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: also the white outfit. I mean, I don't think you're 268 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: just normally rocking a white outfeet and I Betha like that. Yeah, 269 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: but maybe he set it up that she thought she 270 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: was doing a photo shoot. Yeah, so that's kind of 271 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: what famous people do. I'll get ready for a photo shoot. 272 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually proposing. Yeah. Because Ruth Ann, who was the 273 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: singer at the proposal, she put up a post and 274 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: she said Molly had no idea and was completely surprised. 275 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: But I didn't know how much to take of that. See, 276 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I think she looked pretty surprised in the video. I'm 277 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing the behind the scenes in the 278 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: YouTube that they put out, yeah, because normally the videos 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: make it look really glamorous, but then Molly and Tommy 280 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: are pretty open about what actually happened in reality, and 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: it's usually not that glamorous. I'm not really a consumer 282 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: of Logan Pole's content, but I actually got sucked into 283 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: watching his proposal video and he did such a good 284 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: job at surprising his girlfriend. It was all in Italy, 285 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: of course, he managed to do this really cool thing 286 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: where he got this polaroid photo snapped of the exact 287 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: moment that they got engaged. And the YouTube was epic, 288 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: and I hope that this is going to be the 289 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: same for Tommy and Molly. Talking about epic, what about 290 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: that ring? It was massive. It was like a huge 291 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: oval diamond. It kind of looked too big on her hand. 292 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: It was that big. Well, that's the thing in the video. 293 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: They didn't make an effort to actually show the ring. 294 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: They didn't need to. They didn't need to zoom in. No, well, 295 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I screen recorded it because I wanted 296 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: to zoom up on the ring because I was so 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: intrigued to see what it would look like. And it's enormous. 298 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: It's kardashian esque level, and it looks like Kim's engagement 299 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: ring to Kanye, I feel well, I thought it like 300 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashians. It's an oval diamond engagement ring. Sorry, you 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: are right, is like Courtney's. And I did some digging 302 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: and last year media were reporting that in June, the 303 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: couple visited a Dubai jeweler and picked out a five 304 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: carrot ring that was part of a two hundred and 305 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: twenty thousand pound range, So this proposal seems to have 306 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: been in the works for quite some time. It's funny 307 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: because we were talking about whether we think Molly was surprised. 308 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: It's quite clear from the get go she knew at 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: some stage Tommy was going to propose, but he's had 310 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: to try and make somewhat of a surprise out of 311 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: the situation even though everyone knows it's all coming. I 312 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: actually felt really sorry for Molly's sister Zoe, because she 313 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: got proposed to last year, and in a recent vlog 314 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: she revealed that her partner had upgraded the original engagement. 315 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Knew what was coming, yeah, And I feel so bad 316 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: because her ring now is beautiful and it's really big, 317 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: but in compared to Mollie's, it's still a lot. I 318 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: was surprised when I did see her original ring for 319 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: the first time because Molly put it up, I think 320 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: as an Instagram story and everyone thought for a second 321 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: that Molly had got engaged, and with those judgmental eyes 322 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: in thinking that it was hers, I was like, wow, 323 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: that rings small. It wasn't small, it was just a 324 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: normal size a normal person. Everyone be like that is amazing. 325 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: When I saw Molly's ring, I was like, how practical 326 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: is that for a mother of a one year old? 327 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: With all these mums were saying that you get poo 328 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: in your engagement, so you reckon it was a partnership deal. 329 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we might hear more about it in the 330 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: vlog and upcoming post because that ring, it's not just big, 331 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: it's obnoxiously big. It would have cost a fortune. Yeah, 332 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: but Tommy just made millions off that fight in America. 333 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: He's not short of coin at the moment, but they're 334 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: not billionaires like the Kardashians. Well, we don't really know 335 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: the clarity of the diamond, you know, we've only seen it, you. 336 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. 337 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: To be fair. In this article apparently from a year ago, 338 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Tommy said that the ring had to be flawless. Of 339 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: course it day. It's two hundred and twenty thousand dollars 340 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: probably perfect clarity. Now, in other news, the couple is 341 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: also set to return to our TV screen. So Netflix 342 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: has released the official trailer for at Home with the 343 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Furies now. The reality show will center around Tommy's brother 344 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Tyson and his partner Paris. They have six children and 345 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: a seventh on the way. Now. The media are reporting 346 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: that Tommy and Molly will be a fixture on this 347 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: show as well. It's not quite clear how much of 348 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: the show is going to focus on their lives, but 349 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: in the trailer we do see Tommy and Molly talking 350 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: about the arrival of their baby Bambi, and it's quite 351 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: funny because in the scene Molly asked Tommy if he's 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: ready to become a dad and he says he is, 353 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: and that he wants to eat the Plus center. Oh yeahunsting, 354 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, I'll definitely be tuning in though, 355 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: at least for the episodes that Molly made is available 356 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: in Australia, because I thought it might be only a 357 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Netflix Yeah, but I saw something about it's Netflix UK. 358 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be able to get on YouTube anyway. 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Sophie's downloading one of those VPNs right now. Can't get 360 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: enough of Outspoken. If you're left wanting war each week, 361 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: then it might be time to subscribe to Outspoken Plus. 362 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Outspoken Plus is our subscription offering that gives subscribers access 363 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: to a bonus episode every week. 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Well, we have a super 382 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: sleuth in the Tea Time Facebook group to thank for 383 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: finding out about this one. So they shared a screenshot 384 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: of a court date between Sofia Begs Company, Sofa Dofa PtyLtd. 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: And the owner of Aurora Jewelry, Isabella Shirley. While the 386 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: hearing took place on the tenth of July, it's unclear 387 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: why it occurred all the outcome of the case. Now, 388 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: for some background, Sofia promoted Aurora Jewelry on social media 389 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: in October twenty twenty one and July twenty twenty two. Awkwardly, 390 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: the collaboration content is still visible on the jewelry brand's 391 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: Instagram highlight now. The brand is owned by twenty one 392 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: year old Isabella Shirley, who launched the business back in 393 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when she was just eighteen during the COVID lockdown. 394 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: Since then, the brand has worked with pretty big influences 395 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: like jar Da Tunci, Ammy Robinson, Amelia Mani and Isabel Mathers. 396 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm so curious to know what this is all about. Obviously, 397 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: it's in court at the moment, so we can't be 398 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: making too much speculation. Yeah, I mean you would assume 399 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: it's something about a contract if it has gone to 400 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: civil proceedings. Well, the brand has worked with some pretty 401 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: big influences. They would cost a lot to do brand 402 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: deals with. Yeah, particularly someone like Sophia who has one 403 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: point two million followers on TikTok. I mean those are 404 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: massive gets for a startup brand. It's exactly a startup 405 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: by a twenty one year old. That's crazy. Yeah. Now, 406 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: this month, Sofia has been dropping some more clues about 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: her upcoming fashion brand launch. Okay, what do we know 408 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: so far about it? Well, the brand is called All 409 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: for Mimi and is named after Sophia's great great grandmother, Mimi, 410 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: And it's pretty cute because Mimi started her own fashion 411 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: line when she was twenty and Sophia says she wants 412 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: to honor her and carry on her legacy. So over 413 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: the last month, Sophia has added her brand to her 414 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Instagram bio and listed herself as the founder. She's also 415 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: announced that the brand's first drop will be swimwear, and 416 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: fans weren't overly surprised by this news, as she has 417 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: been dropping a lot of clues. For instance, she tagged 418 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: All for Mimi in a photo of her and a 419 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: blue bikini, so everyone's really excited that she's going to 420 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: be bringing out that bikini. I better know one person 421 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: that's not excited Shannie Grimmin, but this is going to 422 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: be a huge rival to her business. It's funny you 423 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: say that because when I was looking at the account 424 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: all for Mimi Sharne had liked a lot of the updates. 425 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's really nice of her. Yeah. I do 426 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: wonder though, how advanced this fashion brand is, because it 427 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: appears Sofia is still searching for manufacturers to create her 428 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: clothes and swimwear. So in a Facebook group called Sewing 429 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Link Up Australia, Sophia wrote that she and her mum 430 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: are starting a fashion brand and looking for someone to 431 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: assist them with sewing manufacturing or for someone who has 432 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: a capacity to be a part of the journey. She 433 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: said her brand is looking for small runs of quality 434 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: made clothing and I think this is a really interesting 435 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: point to discuss because it's quite clear Sofia wants to 436 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: make sure that she is not bringing out some fast 437 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: fashion brand. She wants to be making sure the runs 438 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: are small and that it is quality work. Because she 439 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: is known for calling out White Fox Boutique last year 440 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: when she was an ambassador for the brand, about that 441 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: brand allegedly copying designs and it was really shocking at 442 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: the time, and she ended up losing a lot of 443 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: brand deals coming out and saying that. So by the 444 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: sounds that she is looking for a small Australian based manufacturer, Yeah, 445 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: she is, and I think that is going to be 446 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: really successful for her. I do worry though about the 447 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: price point, because we saw brook Hogan launch her own brand, Lemon, 448 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: and everyone was really excited by it, but she said 449 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: she got a lot of negative feedback over the pricing 450 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: and she said people don't understand that's how much a 451 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: cost a manufacturer in Australia. Well, it will definitely set 452 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Sophia's business apart from others though, and I think people 453 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: are in that stage where they're sick of buying fast 454 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: fashion and they actually want something that's sustainable and Australian made. Yeah. 455 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant move for Sophia, particularly to 456 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: bring out her own clothing range, because we see that 457 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: she is so influential on Tick. People talk about the 458 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: sofa dofa effect and making products sell out, so you'd 459 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: assume it would be the case for her own brand well, 460 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: and she obviously knows that if she was to get 461 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: baths mass produced elsewhere then people would call her a 462 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: hypocrite after all the White Fox debarcle. Yeah. Well, people 463 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: were already asking in the comments what the sizing range 464 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: was going to be like, and she said it starting 465 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: out with extra extra small to three XL, which is 466 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: pretty impressive for a first time brand. That really is, 467 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: because even some of the biggest brands out there only 468 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: go up to an EXCEL. Yeah, it's pretty disgusting. Hello, 469 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: my name is Sophie Kaisha and I'm an author. Like 470 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the nation, Sophie Kaysha has been cheering 471 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: on the Matildas in the Women's World Cup. The only 472 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: issue is her ex girlfriend Alana Kennedy is one of 473 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the stars of the team. So Sophie traveled to Sydney 474 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: to watch the Women's World Cup opener against Ireland on 475 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and she attended the game with her nephew 476 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and they sat behind the goal post wearing Matilda's merch. 477 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: Sophie shared the winning goal to an Instagram story as 478 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: well as a photo that included Alana in it, announcing 479 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: that she'll be heading to Brisbane for the Matilda's second 480 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: game against Nigeria. How bloody awkward it would be so painful, 481 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I think, to watch your ex on the footy field 482 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: being cheered on. Yeah, and I wonder how Alana felt 483 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: about her being there. Look, if I was her, I 484 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be particularly happy about it, because this wasn't just 485 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: your run of the meal breakup. It was a topic 486 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: of Sophie's book. Then there was her, and it made 487 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: headlines after Sophie's tell Or interview on Mia Freeman's podcast 488 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: No Filter, so to refresh everyone's memories. In that interview, 489 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Sophie labeled their relationship as toxic and controlling, and she 490 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: also said Alana is an incredibly strong woman as well. 491 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: And I don't say I feared her out of fear 492 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: for my safety or anything, but I found myself cowering 493 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: down to someone all the time willingly. Sophie also said 494 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: about Elana that she was not the person for me, 495 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: which I can wholeheartedly accept now. Alana seemed to be 496 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: a big issue though in her recent relationship with Maddie Garreck. 497 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: That's kind of what makes it even more awkward, the 498 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: fact that she's there cheering on posting all over her socials. Well, 499 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: it seemed like she was in the middle of that 500 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: relationship in a way because Sophie wrote about a situation 501 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: in her book where she and Maddie were back together 502 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: and they had sex and then she got a text 503 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: message from Milana saying I want you back and she 504 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: just left and bolted. Well, I wonder has Sophie actually 505 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: been paid to promote the World Cup, because I have 506 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: noticed there's lots of ads on different podcasts running for it. 507 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: It might be an answer to why she was there. Yeah, 508 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I did wonder that, But I do genuinely think she 509 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: is a big supporter of women's sport in Australia. I mean, 510 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just because she dates a 511 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: lot of female athletes and wants to be around it. 512 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: But if I was Alana Kennedy, I'd be like, do 513 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: not let that woman in. Yeah, there's been so many 514 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: people talking about the Women's World Cup though it's been 515 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: so good for women's sport. I saw this infographic and 516 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: I had these crazy stats about just how popular it 517 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: has been in comparison to some of the men's sports. 518 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: Has been so good, I mean Matilda's Merchers just selling out. 519 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: I did hear Meir Friedman talking about it on My 520 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: Ama out loud, and she was saying that her daughter 521 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: is a massive fan of the Matilda's and she was 522 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: watching it with her and she kept being like, and 523 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: who's dating who? And can you tell me their backstories? 524 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: And she was saying that there's such a big interest 525 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: in the Matilda's players and their lives. Now, well we've 526 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: seen it with Netflix and Drive to Survive. People didn't 527 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: really rate the f one before. It wasn't cool to 528 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: go to. Now everyone's flocking to the races. It's kind 529 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: of like it shows that if you actually put effort 530 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: into promoting something like women's sport, people are going to 531 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: get behind it. They're going to get interested. It's the 532 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: power of the media, really. Yeah, And as you said, 533 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: with the f Ones, it's opened it up to a 534 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: completely new demographic. And I think there are a lot 535 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: of people out there that have never watched women's football 536 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: before and they're now watching it. Well, that's going to 537 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: leave it today. And now, Okay, I'm so jealous because 538 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: you're jetting off to Bali tonight for your honeymoon. I am. 539 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: I'm quite stressed at the moment. It's been quite a 540 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: stressful recording because you know, before you go on holiday, 541 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: you think of all these things that you need to do. 542 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: Like I've got dogsitters coming over. They're living at our house, 543 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: so I feel like every cupboard needs to be clean. 544 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: I still need to do my fake tan. We are 545 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: recording this on Monday night, so I've still got time 546 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to do all of those jobs. 547 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: But I'm very excited. I think I'll finally relax when 548 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: I get on the plane. But as I said the 549 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: other week, so can I sort of treating this as 550 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a holiday. We're gonna yeah, Well I'm 551 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: going to be listening, so don't treat it too much 552 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: like a holiday, because I'll be listening from my villa 553 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: to Friday's episode and judging it. Way to rub it 554 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: into everyone, you'll be in your bloody villa. Well, we're 555 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: all stuck in cold Australia. Look, I'm sorry. I'll try 556 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: not to put too much on Instagram about it. Well, 557 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: this podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 558 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 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