Speaker 1: Melbourne. Welcome to them, Christian No Show Podcast. How yeah,
Speaker 1: Papa Jack.
Speaker 2: I'm really good. I'll tell you. I'm joyous from all
Speaker 2: the lovely messages they poured in yesterday to both be
Speaker 2: Ancho and I. I just can't believe that the the
Speaker 2: people that listen to the show, how much I really have, big.
Speaker 1: Heart, really happy for you guys, and right now we do.
Speaker 1: We're looking for good news, especially what happened here yesterday
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, last two days. You know, people want to
Speaker 1: reminder of good things happened to good people, and it's
Speaker 1: amazing news to you guys.
Speaker 2: I was properly shocked by how much of a response
Speaker 2: we got from it.
Speaker 1: So take us through yesterday. You told us to shoes bombshell.
Speaker 1: Even Sue the Boss called me yesterday and goes, you
Speaker 1: knew right when I had no idea. I had no idea,
Speaker 1: and I think you planned went. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: We were in the song and he said he had
Speaker 1: something here, get the Backstreet Boys ready, and I just
Speaker 1: thought it was some rubbish about our Backstreet Boys boys
Speaker 1: and night Out last next year and it was to
Speaker 1: begin with that. But I had no idea. So what
Speaker 1: happened after the show. You must have seen buzzing you
Speaker 1: and Bianca.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Bianca is she's really crooked, like she's had
Speaker 2: a terrible time of the first trimester. So even yesterday
Speaker 2: she's going through Like No, She's like.
Speaker 1: Did you know that, Patsy, did you get bad morning sickness?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. I got it more in the afternoon though,
Speaker 3: from four o'clock. No, I'd opened my bullet in at
Speaker 3: four and I think, oh no, I'm actually going to vomits.
Speaker 2: Is the same way. It's not really morning sickness, it's
Speaker 2: just anytime throughout the day. So I was getting excited.
Speaker 1: Guys have got no idea.
Speaker 2: I was going to her, you know, like, what are
Speaker 2: we going to post on Instagram? Tell the world? And
Speaker 2: she's like, so she didn't really bask in the glory
Speaker 2: of it yesterday And thank you, Patsy sent a lovely
Speaker 2: bunch of flowers. The team did as well, So.
Speaker 3: So happy for you.
Speaker 1: Our family tell me this that right, So when you
Speaker 1: Bianca found out she's pregnant, it was the first person
Speaker 1: you want to town, was it Mum or Dad?
Speaker 2: We called my mom first because Mum was like she
Speaker 2: knew that we were going through IVF and it's it's
Speaker 2: a really tough, difficult and it can be a really
Speaker 2: lonely thing. Mum was the only person we told him
Speaker 2: because parents as well, and so she knew we were
Speaker 2: going in to get the result of had it work
Speaker 2: or not, And it was a really low percentage chance
Speaker 2: that we were going to get pregnant, less than ten percent,
Speaker 2: just because of the amount of eggs that we got,
Speaker 2: and just the it's not a like it's a great science.
Speaker 1: So hard because what should be a fun, excited thing
Speaker 1: trying for a baby suddenly becomes in the hands of
Speaker 1: medicine and doctors and all these sterile conversations.
Speaker 2: It becomes really clinical, and then you're going into buildings
Speaker 2: to have conversations about like like will you have a baby?
Speaker 2: Will you be a parent, And you don't want to tell, like,
Speaker 2: of course I told you and Patsy, but most people
Speaker 2: in your life you don't want to tell because you
Speaker 2: don't want to get people's excitement up. You don't want
Speaker 2: them to worry for it.
Speaker 1: Becomes a thing and then people are going to any news,
Speaker 1: any news, pressure on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you go actually through it. It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of a lonely experience. But Mum didn't know we were
Speaker 2: doing it, so she was ready on the Saturday morning
Speaker 2: when we were going to get the call about how
Speaker 2: it worked all night and at the same time last
Speaker 2: year we got the call to say it hadn't worked,
Speaker 2: and uh so she was the first person we call
Speaker 2: and she was honestly, she was in tears. I burst
Speaker 2: into sobbing something.
Speaker 1: It's probably the relief. She's happy that you guys are
Speaker 1: going to experience what it's like to be a parent.
Speaker 1: She knows that you'll be a great dad and Biancle
Speaker 1: be a great mum. So they call you. Is that
Speaker 1: what happens with IV if they will call you and
Speaker 1: give the news. Yes, yeah, I don't know everything, or
Speaker 1: no it's not.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a COVID thing. I'm trying to think now.
Speaker 3: If we got calls well, when we did it, yeah.
Speaker 2: Just over the phone. And it's honestly, it's not even
Speaker 2: your doctor who makes a call. It's a nurse at
Speaker 2: the clinic and so she to you, you're just someone
Speaker 2: on a piece of paper. So she goes, oh, yeah, okay, Bianca, Yep,
Speaker 2: you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: A phone call that literally changes your lives every that's
Speaker 1: just it's just a phone call.
Speaker 2: Wow, I film getting that phone call as well, so
Speaker 2: films everything.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were even filming yourself yesterday he
Speaker 1: sat up a camera filming himself, surprising us.
Speaker 3: That's great because it's beautiful to keepe for little baby
Speaker 3: Jack when he's older, to have those.
Speaker 1: Pressure you know, what was the inside my dad's what
Speaker 1: was my dad's p ov. I'm really going to need
Speaker 1: to see this. I want to see it from a
Speaker 1: horrible radio studio point of view from nostrils. Are we okay? Then?
Speaker 1: Can we plearn this morning? Because I know you also
Speaker 1: you actually did record the moment you told your mom.
Speaker 2: I showed it to you guys yesterday.
Speaker 1: Your mom okay with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Should be fine.
Speaker 1: Oh I'd love to hear that. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Are the people have emailed and texted saying congratulations to
Speaker 1: Jack and band because well, it means a lot to
Speaker 1: the The Christian O'Connell show podcast. So the beginnings dropping
Speaker 1: the show yesterday, Jackie boys have become a dad. Next
Speaker 1: year it's a little baby boy. Great news sounds already
Speaker 1: sponsored your son. It's going to be called Chemi's warehouse. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the second year, so they've sold the next twenty
Speaker 1: five years of his life. Each year we have a
Speaker 1: different name for a different sponsor. Okay, so why don't
Speaker 1: you set this up then, so we've got the audio
Speaker 1: of your mum, you know, finding out that her son
Speaker 1: is going to become a dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, So she knew that. We were waiting
Speaker 2: for a call from the IVF clinic to tell us
Speaker 2: whether we'd been successful or not. We were given really
Speaker 2: low odds both times we did it. We failed last
Speaker 2: year and uh no, we Biank and I were both
Speaker 2: not expecting you try and get your hopes right down
Speaker 2: and not expecting for it to happen.
Speaker 1: So are you managing bankers' hopes? Because women feel so
Speaker 1: much shame when they can't conceive naturally. It's like their
Speaker 1: body has let you down.
Speaker 2: It's really tough. So you've got to put yourself in
Speaker 2: you know, you really got to put yourself in the
Speaker 2: mindset of going like, hey, we could never be parents,
Speaker 2: and that's going to be fine. We'll be fine if
Speaker 2: we're not, Like if that's not but you can.
Speaker 1: Say that it's still hard thing to even possibly accept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bianco that was a really difficult thing for
Speaker 2: Bianca to deal with and go through.
Speaker 1: So was that like to that for you? Patsy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly, Jack, you're talking about this actually makes
Speaker 3: me feel really emotional because I know it's different for everyone,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to assume how you and Bianca,
Speaker 3: you know how you've processed it, which is just why
Speaker 3: I just can't. I'm so happy for you because I
Speaker 3: know what this is like, and you're talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's just brought it all back for me as you
Speaker 3: talk about it now, and yeah, it is you think,
Speaker 3: what sort of I used to say? What sort of
Speaker 3: woman am I?
Speaker 2: If you know?
Speaker 3: I can be a good news reader and I can
Speaker 3: be this and that and good at whatever else, But
Speaker 3: what sort of woman am I? If I can't do
Speaker 3: what is what I was put on this planet to do,
Speaker 3: is to have a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patsy, We're so lucky we had you through this
Speaker 2: because Bianca actually saw you as a great inspiration for it.
Speaker 2: And to know that because people don't talk about IVF.
Speaker 1: A lot now, they're embarrassed, they're ashamed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to know that you and Chris struggled with
Speaker 2: that made it feel more I guess feel more comfortable
Speaker 2: about it. I just know what we were going into
Speaker 2: and my heart breaks for people who it doesn't work
Speaker 2: for and try, try and try again. I spoke to
Speaker 2: people yesterday who reach out to me, who tried five times,
Speaker 2: eight times. One guy had a kid after twenty seven
Speaker 2: rounds of IVA.
Speaker 1: People don't realize if you don't know what goes. It
Speaker 1: costs so much money that alone, the time as well,
Speaker 1: and the failure and what that does to a relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the financial strain, the emotional strain, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: And we I mean, we only tried twice, so we
Speaker 2: consider ourselves really really lucky.
Speaker 1: You both do in such an amazing job when you
Speaker 1: talk about IVF. Honestly, what that does. There's so many
Speaker 1: people who are at the early stages or they don't
Speaker 1: even know where they are, whether they are at the
Speaker 1: early stages, the middle stages. You've been through it. There
Speaker 1: is so much shame around it, especially for women. You
Speaker 1: honest see, it's amazing what you do whenever you talk
Speaker 1: about IVF. And you were kind enough and generous enough
Speaker 1: to do that yesterday, Jack with your good news, I
Speaker 1: get so many emails from people who are in it
Speaker 1: right now, who've been in a long time. It's amazing
Speaker 1: what it is your from something so hard, but both
Speaker 1: of you obviously parents it is. It's an amazing gift
Speaker 1: that you're giving people. You're giving them hope and they
Speaker 1: need that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, like I said before, if people are
Speaker 2: going through it and they don't feel like they want
Speaker 2: to tell, you don't want to tell a whole lot
Speaker 2: of friends and family because you don't want them to
Speaker 2: worry about you. You don't want to get everybody's home.
Speaker 1: This becomes a thing to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't want them if it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't want our friends and family to pity us.
Speaker 2: Like we would live a great fulfilled life if we
Speaker 2: people have children, but we didn't want people to pity
Speaker 2: us and worry about us. So if people are going
Speaker 2: through that and they feel like they don't want to
Speaker 2: tell their friends and family, feel free to reach out
Speaker 2: to me. I'll chat to you about it, and if
Speaker 2: you're going through it at the moment, I'm happy to
Speaker 2: be listening ear for you going through it, because I
Speaker 2: don't know. It was tough for us and we consider
Speaker 2: ourselves so very lucky. So this is to get back
Speaker 2: to the audio. This is Mum knew obviously that we
Speaker 2: were going through all that, that we were waiting for
Speaker 2: the call from the ivy F clinic to tell us
Speaker 2: that we were pregnant. And this is me then calling
Speaker 2: mom on speakerphone after.
Speaker 1: That, My mom, how are.
Speaker 2: The guys are working on the window right now? The
Speaker 2: ak and I are pregnant?
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: You've got Jack cry now, that is amazing. Thanks for
Speaker 1: sharing that I'm tearing up here and that I can
Speaker 1: fill your mom's.
Speaker 2: Joy in with She really was uncontrollable, sobbing. And that's
Speaker 2: an edited down version of what we had.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of other things. I've heard that a
Speaker 1: few times now is what's what was going on over
Speaker 1: in the window, by the way, I remember, she thought,
Speaker 1: obviously he's very emotional about that window right now. Remember
Speaker 1: your mom goes what's going on in the window, knowing you,
Speaker 1: she's obviously heard too much about some small thing you've
Speaker 1: blown out of all abortion.
Speaker 2: Remember in June I borrowed mum and Dad's car to
Speaker 2: transport that generator, Oh my god, and smash the whole
Speaker 2: back of the window.
Speaker 1: So that was that morning she thought you were calling
Speaker 1: her on speakerphone about that video on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: That same morning that we were waiting for the call
Speaker 2: from the clinic, I was dealing with guys who could
Speaker 2: do an emergency.
Speaker 1: Repair you life changing events. And also who actually addresses
Speaker 1: their mom my, mom my mom, how a hey my mom,
Speaker 1: Hey my host? How my news? How are you? And
Speaker 1: also I didn't really knowze what big news as was yesterday. Patsy,
Speaker 1: you need to put me in the news.
Speaker 2: The anchor and I are pregnant.
Speaker 1: Jackie is pregnant. Guys here that they're both pregnant. The
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