WEBVTT - MINI: IVF

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne. Welcome to them, Christian No Show Podcast. How yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Papa Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really good. I'll tell you. I'm joyous from all

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<v Speaker 2>the lovely messages they poured in yesterday to both be

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<v Speaker 2>Ancho and I. I just can't believe that the the

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<v Speaker 2>people that listen to the show, how much I really have, big.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart, really happy for you guys, and right now we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking for good news, especially what happened here yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne, last two days. You know, people want to

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<v Speaker 1>reminder of good things happened to good people, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing news to you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I was properly shocked by how much of a response

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<v Speaker 2>we got from it.

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<v Speaker 1>So take us through yesterday. You told us to shoes bombshell.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Sue the Boss called me yesterday and goes, you

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<v Speaker 1>knew right when I had no idea. I had no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you planned went. I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in the song and he said he had

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<v Speaker 1>something here, get the Backstreet Boys ready, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was some rubbish about our Backstreet Boys boys

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<v Speaker 1>and night Out last next year and it was to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with that. But I had no idea. So what

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<v Speaker 1>happened after the show. You must have seen buzzing you

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<v Speaker 1>and Bianca.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Bianca is she's really crooked, like she's had

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible time of the first trimester. So even yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>she's going through Like No, She's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that, Patsy, did you get bad morning sickness?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I did. I got it more in the afternoon though,

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<v Speaker 3>from four o'clock. No, I'd opened my bullet in at

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<v Speaker 3>four and I think, oh no, I'm actually going to vomits.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the same way. It's not really morning sickness, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just anytime throughout the day. So I was getting excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys have got no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to her, you know, like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to post on Instagram? Tell the world? And

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, so she didn't really bask in the glory

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<v Speaker 2>of it yesterday And thank you, Patsy sent a lovely

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of flowers. The team did as well, So.

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<v Speaker 3>So happy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Our family tell me this that right, So when you

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<v Speaker 1>Bianca found out she's pregnant, it was the first person

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<v Speaker 1>you want to town, was it Mum or Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>We called my mom first because Mum was like she

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<v Speaker 2>knew that we were going through IVF and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really tough, difficult and it can be a really

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<v Speaker 2>lonely thing. Mum was the only person we told him

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<v Speaker 2>because parents as well, and so she knew we were

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<v Speaker 2>going in to get the result of had it work

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<v Speaker 2>or not, And it was a really low percentage chance

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<v Speaker 2>that we were going to get pregnant, less than ten percent,

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<v Speaker 2>just because of the amount of eggs that we got,

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<v Speaker 2>and just the it's not a like it's a great science.

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<v Speaker 1>So hard because what should be a fun, excited thing

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<v Speaker 1>trying for a baby suddenly becomes in the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>medicine and doctors and all these sterile conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes really clinical, and then you're going into buildings

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<v Speaker 2>to have conversations about like like will you have a baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Will you be a parent, And you don't want to tell, like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I told you and Patsy, but most people

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<v Speaker 2>in your life you don't want to tell because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get people's excitement up. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>them to worry for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Becomes a thing and then people are going to any news,

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<v Speaker 1>any news, pressure on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you go actually through it. It's it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a lonely experience. But Mum didn't know we were

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, so she was ready on the Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 2>when we were going to get the call about how

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<v Speaker 2>it worked all night and at the same time last

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<v Speaker 2>year we got the call to say it hadn't worked,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh so she was the first person we call

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<v Speaker 2>and she was honestly, she was in tears. I burst

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<v Speaker 2>into sobbing something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably the relief. She's happy that you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to experience what it's like to be a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows that you'll be a great dad and Biancle

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<v Speaker 1>be a great mum. So they call you. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what happens with IV if they will call you and

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<v Speaker 1>give the news. Yes, yeah, I don't know everything, or

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<v Speaker 1>no it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a COVID thing. I'm trying to think now.

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<v Speaker 3>If we got calls well, when we did it, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just over the phone. And it's honestly, it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>your doctor who makes a call. It's a nurse at

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<v Speaker 2>the clinic and so she to you, you're just someone

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<v Speaker 2>on a piece of paper. So she goes, oh, yeah, okay, Bianca, Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>A phone call that literally changes your lives every that's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just a phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I film getting that phone call as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>films everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize you were even filming yourself yesterday he

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<v Speaker 1>sat up a camera filming himself, surprising us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great because it's beautiful to keepe for little baby

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<v Speaker 3>Jack when he's older, to have those.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure you know, what was the inside my dad's what

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<v Speaker 1>was my dad's p ov. I'm really going to need

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<v Speaker 1>to see this. I want to see it from a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible radio studio point of view from nostrils. Are we okay? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we plearn this morning? Because I know you also

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<v Speaker 1>you actually did record the moment you told your mom.

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<v Speaker 2>I showed it to you guys yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom okay with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Should be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'd love to hear that. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the people have emailed and texted saying congratulations to

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and band because well, it means a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>the The Christian O'Connell show podcast. So the beginnings dropping

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<v Speaker 1>the show yesterday, Jackie boys have become a dad. Next

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<v Speaker 1>year it's a little baby boy. Great news sounds already

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored your son. It's going to be called Chemi's warehouse. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the second year, so they've sold the next twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years of his life. Each year we have a

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<v Speaker 1>different name for a different sponsor. Okay, so why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you set this up then, so we've got the audio

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<v Speaker 1>of your mum, you know, finding out that her son

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<v Speaker 1>is going to become a dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, So she knew that. We were waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for a call from the IVF clinic to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>whether we'd been successful or not. We were given really

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<v Speaker 2>low odds both times we did it. We failed last

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<v Speaker 2>year and uh no, we Biank and I were both

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting you try and get your hopes right down

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<v Speaker 2>and not expecting for it to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you managing bankers' hopes? Because women feel so

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<v Speaker 1>much shame when they can't conceive naturally. It's like their

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<v Speaker 1>body has let you down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really tough. So you've got to put yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you really got to put yourself in the

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<v Speaker 2>mindset of going like, hey, we could never be parents,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's going to be fine. We'll be fine if

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<v Speaker 2>we're not, Like if that's not but you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that it's still hard thing to even possibly accept.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Bianco that was a really difficult thing for

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<v Speaker 2>Bianca to deal with and go through.

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<v Speaker 1>So was that like to that for you? Patsy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I honestly, Jack, you're talking about this actually makes

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<v Speaker 3>me feel really emotional because I know it's different for everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to assume how you and Bianca,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how you've processed it, which is just why

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't. I'm so happy for you because I

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<v Speaker 3>know what this is like, and you're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just brought it all back for me as you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it now, and yeah, it is you think,

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<v Speaker 3>what sort of I used to say? What sort of

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<v Speaker 3>woman am I?

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<v Speaker 2>If you know?

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<v Speaker 3>I can be a good news reader and I can

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<v Speaker 3>be this and that and good at whatever else, But

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<v Speaker 3>what sort of woman am I? If I can't do

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<v Speaker 3>what is what I was put on this planet to do,

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<v Speaker 3>is to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Patsy, We're so lucky we had you through this

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<v Speaker 2>because Bianca actually saw you as a great inspiration for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And to know that because people don't talk about IVF.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot now, they're embarrassed, they're ashamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to know that you and Chris struggled with

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<v Speaker 2>that made it feel more I guess feel more comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I just know what we were going into

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<v Speaker 2>and my heart breaks for people who it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>for and try, try and try again. I spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>people yesterday who reach out to me, who tried five times,

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<v Speaker 2>eight times. One guy had a kid after twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>rounds of IVA.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't realize if you don't know what goes. It

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<v Speaker 1>costs so much money that alone, the time as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the failure and what that does to a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the financial strain, the emotional strain, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And we I mean, we only tried twice, so we

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<v Speaker 2>consider ourselves really really lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You both do in such an amazing job when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about IVF. Honestly, what that does. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people who are at the early stages or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know where they are, whether they are at the

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<v Speaker 1>early stages, the middle stages. You've been through it. There

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<v Speaker 1>is so much shame around it, especially for women. You

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<v Speaker 1>honest see, it's amazing what you do whenever you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about IVF. And you were kind enough and generous enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do that yesterday, Jack with your good news, I

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<v Speaker 1>get so many emails from people who are in it

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<v Speaker 1>right now, who've been in a long time. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>what it is your from something so hard, but both

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<v Speaker 1>of you obviously parents it is. It's an amazing gift

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<v Speaker 1>that you're giving people. You're giving them hope and they

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<v Speaker 1>need that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think, like I said before, if people are

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<v Speaker 2>going through it and they don't feel like they want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell, you don't want to tell a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of friends and family because you don't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about you. You don't want to get everybody's home.

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<v Speaker 1>This becomes a thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you don't want them if it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't want our friends and family to pity us.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we would live a great fulfilled life if we

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<v Speaker 2>people have children, but we didn't want people to pity

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<v Speaker 2>us and worry about us. So if people are going

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<v Speaker 2>through that and they feel like they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell their friends and family, feel free to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I'll chat to you about it, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going through it at the moment, I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be listening ear for you going through it, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It was tough for us and we consider

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves so very lucky. So this is to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the audio. This is Mum knew obviously that we

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<v Speaker 2>were going through all that, that we were waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the call from the ivy F clinic to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that we were pregnant. And this is me then calling

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<v Speaker 2>mom on speakerphone after.

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<v Speaker 1>That, My mom, how are.

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<v Speaker 2>The guys are working on the window right now? The

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<v Speaker 2>ak and I are pregnant?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Jack cry now, that is amazing. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing that I'm tearing up here and that I can

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<v Speaker 1>fill your mom's.

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<v Speaker 2>Joy in with She really was uncontrollable, sobbing. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>an edited down version of what we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a couple of other things. I've heard that a

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<v Speaker 1>few times now is what's what was going on over

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<v Speaker 1>in the window, by the way, I remember, she thought,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's very emotional about that window right now. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>your mom goes what's going on in the window, knowing you,

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<v Speaker 1>she's obviously heard too much about some small thing you've

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<v Speaker 1>blown out of all abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember in June I borrowed mum and Dad's car to

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<v Speaker 2>transport that generator, Oh my god, and smash the whole

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<v Speaker 2>back of the window.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that morning she thought you were calling

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<v Speaker 1>her on speakerphone about that video on a Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>That same morning that we were waiting for the call

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<v Speaker 2>from the clinic, I was dealing with guys who could

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<v Speaker 2>do an emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Repair you life changing events. And also who actually addresses

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<v Speaker 1>their mom my, mom my mom, how a hey my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey my host? How my news? How are you? And

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<v Speaker 1>also I didn't really knowze what big news as was yesterday. Patsy,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to put me in the news.

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<v Speaker 2>The anchor and I are pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie is pregnant. Guys here that they're both pregnant. The

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