WEBVTT - The Perils Of The Spotify Stalk 🕵️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms Flex and Fromes.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast. Happy Thursday, Everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>seventh of September. What a beautiful, beautiful month. September is guys,

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<v Speaker 2>the Spotify stork. If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>then I would say you've not been in the trenches. However,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the last line of defense in the

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<v Speaker 2>war of being delusional is doing the Spotify stalk of

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<v Speaker 2>your crush. Okay, Mickey, Producer to the Stars has I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna say no, I won't say it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, yeah, you've got an interesting story that you

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<v Speaker 2>very very borright.

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<v Speaker 1>I was because you had you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was a little crazy, but I'm fine now.

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<v Speaker 3>I killed the demons.

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<v Speaker 2>See this is what I mean, Like the demons can

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<v Speaker 2>be killed.

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<v Speaker 4>The demons were out and about demons to slay them.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't get by life being a spectator. You need

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<v Speaker 4>to be in the trench, Yana to come out of

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<v Speaker 4>the treasy on and also to not go back in.

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<v Speaker 4>Because anyone who is listening now acting or smug that

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<v Speaker 4>they haven't done anything delusional.

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<v Speaker 1>Your time is coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about all the people who didn't have a loose

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<v Speaker 4>time in their early twenties. They start acting loose in

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<v Speaker 4>their late twenties, and it goes into their mid thirties,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're worried for them.

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<v Speaker 2>True les, speak for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Me and my personalities are worried for them.

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<v Speaker 1>What day is it? Thursday?

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<v Speaker 2>Friday, Friday?

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<v Speaker 4>Baby, Oh sweety pies, it's Friday, and thank goodness for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Today we talk about the best excuse not to go

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<v Speaker 4>to work and the reason why you ruminate. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it should provide you with some comfort. But also, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't tend to oversimplify everything for no reason. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>because some things can afford to be simplified for the

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<v Speaker 4>sake of the girlies brains.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, anyway, happy weekend. Here's the potty Legs and

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<v Speaker 2>rooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're someone who is a chronic procrastinator or someone

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<v Speaker 4>with ADHD, it's what this video told me.

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<v Speaker 1>This tool might help you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very skeptical about tools to help you be better

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<v Speaker 4>because I think that sometimes our quote unquote bad qualities

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<v Speaker 4>are stronger than we are, stronger than our will to change.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm open to hearing it. I love downloading an

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<v Speaker 4>app I love a little software.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a digital tool, an online tool to

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<v Speaker 4>help you figure out what to do when your brain

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<v Speaker 4>won't do its job right. It's called Goblin Dot tool,

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<v Speaker 4>and it breaks down the things you have to do

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<v Speaker 4>into smaller action items so you can get it done easy, easily.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned. Is it a tool or a crutch. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think part of what we need to learn

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<v Speaker 4>how to do is to work with our brains, not

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<v Speaker 4>create more solutions around bad behavior and bad behavior, but

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<v Speaker 4>inopportune behavior. So when you have analysis paralysis, what you

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<v Speaker 4>do is you type in the task you need to do,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you need to clean your room, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>has this spicy meter, so it's one chili to five chilies,

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<v Speaker 4>and five CHILIESE means that you want this broken down

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<v Speaker 4>in the most granular way like baby baby baby steps

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<v Speaker 4>and one chili is just kind of like a helpful framework,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe three or four different steps. So let's say I

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<v Speaker 4>picked five chilies. It would just you'd press this button

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<v Speaker 4>and then it'll give you this list, and it might say, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>first divide your room into four different sections of responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>So you might say I've got my clothes. I've got

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<v Speaker 4>my bed, I've got my vanity, and I've got the

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<v Speaker 4>hallway in front of my room. And then for each

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<v Speaker 4>part of the room, it'll say, okay, for your clothes,

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<v Speaker 4>Separate the clean clothes from the dirty clothes. Put the

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<v Speaker 4>dirty clothes in the hallway, get it out of the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the clean clothes, Grab all the tops, put them

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<v Speaker 4>on hangers, and put them in your wardrobe. When you're

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<v Speaker 4>done that, grab all your pants. Put all your pants

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<v Speaker 4>on hangers and put And then that's how granular the

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<v Speaker 4>list is.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you're able to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Is check it off as you go, or create some

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<v Speaker 4>category so you can categorize as you make this list.

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<v Speaker 4>My biggest concern with this thing is that making the

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<v Speaker 4>list would be so enjoyable that the work would be

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<v Speaker 4>even more annoying to do after the fact, Like as

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<v Speaker 4>you're playing around with your goblin tools and being like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>I could do it this way or this way, or

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<v Speaker 4>edit it or take it out. When you actually have

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<v Speaker 4>to start doing the thing that was meant to help

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<v Speaker 4>you to do the thing, you don't want to do

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<v Speaker 4>the thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You got your fun out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not something that I would use because I'm coming

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<v Speaker 4>to terms with the fact that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be disciplined in a way that requires me to be

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<v Speaker 4>anything but my myself. So, for example, I recognize that

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<v Speaker 4>when I recognize that my issue with cleaning is that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't put things back straight away, and I create

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<v Speaker 4>these mini piles and I say I'll get to them,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I don't get to them, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>have to do a big clean every week. So what

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<v Speaker 4>I so off the back of my clothes, my clean

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<v Speaker 4>clothing in a pile, instead of challenging myself to have

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<v Speaker 4>a spring clean day every time I'm getting read now

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<v Speaker 4>and I put on different outfit options. When I'm done,

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<v Speaker 4>I just put those clothes back on a hanger. Then

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<v Speaker 4>I pick an option from the pile as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>the hangar, and if I don't want to wear it,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll put on a hanger, put it back. A pile

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<v Speaker 4>can stay. But I'm working at it small, small, every

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<v Speaker 4>time I get dressed. That's a very interesting that just

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<v Speaker 4>works better for me, not this whole like spring cleaning someday.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like dishes, for example, I know that I could hand

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<v Speaker 4>wash every dish after I use it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to get my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Work like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got beautiful nails, sta, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, okay, well, I know that I can

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<v Speaker 4>rinse them straight away, leave them stacked in the dishwash

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<v Speaker 4>until I have a load. Then I'm dont have like

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<v Speaker 4>food scents everywhere, and then it's getting done well.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend, guys, I've put it in my calendar. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to clear out my whole wardrobe and just go

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<v Speaker 2>with the big job. I got a lot of clothes, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's looking at you, if you're looking at you,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, what about me, get some clothes to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna give you gif. I'm putting them all into

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<v Speaker 2>a separate wardrobe and sticking with the essentials and the basics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also going to clean out my entire kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say clean out, like donate or organize, orgize,

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<v Speaker 1>organize okay, sorry, wipe wipe the cupboards, sorry, babe, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there might be one or two.

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<v Speaker 2>I just yeah, I'm a bit stingy when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to ye. Yeah, you can always borrow something. We can

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<v Speaker 2>do a little round Robert.

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<v Speaker 4>Not the consolation prize borrow anyway. Goblin dot tools is

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<v Speaker 4>the tool. Please try and let us know if it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually been helpful. I don't mean try it for a

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<v Speaker 4>day or two. Really integrate it into your routine. Come

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<v Speaker 4>back to us at flex and frooms on Instagram. Let

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<v Speaker 4>us know if it was good for you and if

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<v Speaker 4>it was, you know, let the creators know and.

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<v Speaker 2>If if not, if you want to save your data,

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<v Speaker 2>just a classic notebook course roll away, don't book, a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of thinking, and a really lovely gel pen. It's

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<v Speaker 2>flexing frooms on Kita. Today we have a very exciting

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<v Speaker 2>am id aushole. It involves ghosting a best friend right

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<v Speaker 2>off the dome before we get into it, would you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the best friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool? All right, here's a scenario with people. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a real one anonymous from a listener. It's long soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Try and get it done well. Today I block my

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<v Speaker 2>friend of eight years without warning on her birthday. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me set the same for you. I moved away from

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<v Speaker 2>our hometown a little every year ago, and in that year,

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<v Speaker 2>our communication and overall relationship is taken a nose. I've

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<v Speaker 2>she's a FaceTime girly and I'm a texting girly. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, she, let's call this. Stacy is very open to

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<v Speaker 2>people about her bad communication skills when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining friendships. I've always given her grace because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that's as an adult, you don't always see you or

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<v Speaker 2>hear from friends, and that's okay, yea, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>there's some effort to keep up every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people have lives outside our friendship, and I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to take it personally. But when I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hear from someone for a while, and I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>it personally when I don't hear from someone in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>life happens. But considering our only way to keep up

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<v Speaker 2>was through text to calls, I figured we'd each make

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of compromise. She'd call me at random, usually

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<v Speaker 2>when I was not available. Yeah, I'd always send a

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<v Speaker 2>follow up text saying I'm busy and asking how they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing, and try and call back another time that

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<v Speaker 2>fits both our schedules. I would get no reply, also,

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<v Speaker 2>no replies reactions to anything I'd sent on socials, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they'd be active on their stories. Repeat cycle. I

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<v Speaker 2>visited our hometown earlier in the year, excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>Stacy a reunion over the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>His disappointing vibes are off, and Stacy last me to

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<v Speaker 2>bring someone with them to a planned group outing. She

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<v Speaker 2>sends the whole night with her plus one without much

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<v Speaker 2>interaction with anyone else, including me. I leave hometown feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like a friendship is not as it once was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>long story short. I find out Stacy is living and

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<v Speaker 2>dating a next situationship of mine delanded poorly. This came

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. Whoa Also a week Statia tells me

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<v Speaker 2>that this guy, let's call him Duke, wants to state

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<v Speaker 2>Stacy for contact. Stacy just got to have a long

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<v Speaker 2>term relationship with Duke's ex best friend. Babes is double jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 2>Stacy has told me countless times that I'm their best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>the person that seemed to genuinely care about them, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I was moving away, they acted very sad about

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<v Speaker 2>my leaving. If this means yeah, if this was not

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<v Speaker 2>someone literally I literally befriended. If this was not someone

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<v Speaker 2>I literally befriended as a teen and with someone I

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<v Speaker 2>met at this stage of life, I don't think there'd

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<v Speaker 2>be someone I keep around also my conflict avoidant person,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can be overly emotional, So telling them my

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<v Speaker 2>feelings about that felt too exhausting, and my the asshole

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<v Speaker 2>is goes to your friend? Ever excuse me? Or should

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been honest with her about my feelings. In

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<v Speaker 2>my head, I'm protecting my peace. But now I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if it was the right thing to do. They's

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<v Speaker 2>someone I genuinely cared about. Yeah, just someone I began

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<v Speaker 2>to have less patience for as time has moved on. Look, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I were you earlier. Look, if I were you,

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<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't have blocked, only because I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have just matched their energy and kind of let

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<v Speaker 2>it fizzle because they're probably like, damn dating the X situationship,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking out, so kind of let them be the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that have to sit in the awkwardness. Not you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a huge guy, I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of advice culture, especially on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 4>wants everything to feel so finite, and I'm sure that's

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<v Speaker 4>for the purposes of social media to wrap it up

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<v Speaker 4>into everyone feels resolved in what's going on. This is

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<v Speaker 4>what you should do, and if you don't do anything

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<v Speaker 4>but that, it's not done. In this instance, I, as

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I am a fan of the slow ghost.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think enough people have the communication skills necessary

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<v Speaker 4>to have a hard conversation and to come out of

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<v Speaker 4>it better and healed and forgiven. And in this instance,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you have a lot of variables that could

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<v Speaker 4>determine the dissolution of your relationship. Is it the distance,

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<v Speaker 4>is it your actual dynamic, is it dating the exes?

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<v Speaker 4>It could be any of those things. But fundamentally, it

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like it's not a friend that you really want

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<v Speaker 4>in your life. You sound quite begrudging about the whole process,

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<v Speaker 4>and so the block does feel necessary because you wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to do so. But I do worry that the block

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<v Speaker 4>kind of puts you in the position of being the

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<v Speaker 4>aggressor and not the victim totally, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 4>don't even get a chance to let them sit with

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<v Speaker 4>a discomfort of what they've done, because you remove yourself

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that makes you seem for.

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<v Speaker 1>All intents and purposes like the one with the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll say, though you went with what your gut said.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you should always do that motivism if it feels

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<v Speaker 1>good to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We are always looking to create boxes, stereotype, characterized label

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<v Speaker 2>to then shatter. Then what's it called not regress? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite transcend? You get that. You're just saying I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I heard that come through. Yeah, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>really amazing. Mickey understands. The assignment got me thinking, would

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<v Speaker 2>you rather be referred to as a lady, a woman

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<v Speaker 2>or a girl? Flex?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two of them don't sound accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl and lady, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Accurate in the sense I don't know what contact people

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<v Speaker 1>are using.

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<v Speaker 2>Lady.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, it kind of sounds like what parents say to

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<v Speaker 4>little kids when they don't want to aid you, but

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<v Speaker 4>you're in discussion. So sound example, if I'm standing it

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<v Speaker 4>in Baker's like getting a cheesy might scroll and a

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<v Speaker 4>little girl turns around and says, oh my god, she's

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<v Speaker 4>so pretty. Then the mom might say, oh, that's so kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you get out of the lady's way. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>she's not gonna say get out of get out of

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<v Speaker 4>the girl's way, get out of the woman's way.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, get out of the lady's way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a woman's way.

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<v Speaker 4>So Micky said I'd like to be called a matriarch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's a princess or a prince, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 4>prince or king.

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<v Speaker 2>I do king, I do king. So my friend Mickey

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<v Speaker 2>might producing. Mickey's had a conversation with a friend last

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<v Speaker 2>week and she was trying to explain to a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people how, in her mind, lady is a mature woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I got us thinking, do you self identify as

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<v Speaker 2>a lady, girl, a woman? One of my friends said

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<v Speaker 2>she never identifies a lady and preferred woman. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy and preferred to be labeled girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a girl, A girl, Yeah, I'm a girl. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's because I see one of the young Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Has the essence of a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Micky's allowed, Micky's you twenty five under twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I will say something about lady feels like there's

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<v Speaker 4>an aesthetic attached to it. And I think that's why

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<v Speaker 4>people are like, I don't know if I'm a lady,

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<v Speaker 4>because yeah, I'm not a primrose.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't assented.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and not wearing a pencil skirt with a matching

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<v Speaker 4>bou clay blazer.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a petty coat, not a PEPSI coat Yes. Personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm deep in my woman era. I was a girl

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<v Speaker 2>for a little while probably, and you ate you did

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<v Speaker 2>that so well, Micky, and I say trajectory. As I've

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<v Speaker 2>said ten times in this episode, I am behavior that

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<v Speaker 2>it is very tempting to call yourself a girl, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is also important to step into your woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up, I had a lot of ill around woman

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<v Speaker 2>because it felt serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you reading what you've written? Yeah? Okay, great?

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt and I liked being infantilized because it

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<v Speaker 2>felt fun, silly and gave me permission to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little fairy. I also think it's a weird hangover from

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<v Speaker 2>the era where saying you were a fem was a

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<v Speaker 2>dirty word. I love being a woman. I will definitely

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<v Speaker 2>get into the lady areas when I'm in my well

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<v Speaker 2>to do going to the theater era sixty plus. It's

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<v Speaker 2>giving first year feminism, and yet I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta know where you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I want to be called a woman, a lady,

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<v Speaker 4>or a girl? None of them like sound quite right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's something about it. I feel like we're missing something

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<v Speaker 4>like is there another term it's not female? I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's another term though, but if anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Girlli pop, girllypop, Yeah, girllipop, But it would be nice

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<v Speaker 2>to come to a consensus. Is something that is understood

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<v Speaker 2>by the widest demographic that doesn't feel so loaded. But

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<v Speaker 2>we also need to think why does woman feel loaded?

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<v Speaker 4>Woman to me feels like mother, Okay, as in it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's an identifier, but a title like when you

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<v Speaker 4>are deep in your womanhood. You know, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think i'd call it. Pick me a woman, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>what they all feel oded. But if I had a preference,

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<v Speaker 4>I would pick woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And lady woman and lady.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a lady. I gotta say, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>was a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Man boy and guy maybe that's for next week.

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<v Speaker 1>We get man, boy and guy, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how would I do this for a man? Most men

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<v Speaker 1>are guys, guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a man exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have a guy equivalent in ladyland.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy sounds like yeah, some guy. Everyone, Yeah, they're awesome. Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's some guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When I when I'm referring to a man, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm making making a positive character assessment, like someone

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<v Speaker 4>who is in their masculine energy and displaying archetypally good

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<v Speaker 4>qualities like being reliable and structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's a man. That's a king, right though.

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<v Speaker 2>See I say king when it's positive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I call you king. Yeah, true, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not reserving that just for men. But yeah, most most

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<v Speaker 4>meant to me are some guy boy feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>A slur Oh definitely, definitely the crowd nods.

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