1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: I had to hit that like low to get to 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: the ultimate high, and that high was sort of me 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: realizing that I'm so much greater than drinking alcohol and 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: partying every weekend, that I had the ability to change 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: and I did. 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Make. Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts the podcast 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: for women who want to take control of their lives, 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: gained the confidence to live unapologetically, and who were ready 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: to turn their dream life into their reality. I'm your 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: host Georgie Stephenson, former lawyer turned to entrepreneur and personal 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: development junkie. In today's episode, we meet Alira Potter. Alira 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: is an absolute inspiration and is so talented in so 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: many areas you can definitely say she is multi passionate. 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: She's a spiritual healer, curve model, meditation teacher, life coach, 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: and a psychic. So today's episode is filled with a lot. 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: We get into passion in inspiration and actionable tips. Aleira 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: has gone from being a regular partygoer to now using 18 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: her higher power to help and heal so many We 19 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: dive deep into turning your life around, finding your divine purpose, 20 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: and how to tap into spirituality. We also chat about 21 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: culture diversity, how to become more present and how Aleira 22 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: is working hard to change the narrative of the wellness space. 23 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: Alera gives so many helpful tips to help you truly 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: step into your power and create a life that fills 25 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: up your cup. My favorite part about my chat with 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Alera is how full of life and real she is. 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to share this with you. Let's get 28 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: straight into the show. 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Alia, Welcome to the show. 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. 31 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for you to be on the Rise 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: and Conquer podcast. We've got lots to get into today. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: But before we do that, something I'm asking all my 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: Season three guests is what is a practice, a non 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: negotiable practice and your daily routine that helps you step 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: into your power? 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Oh that is such a good question. Mine is meditation. 38 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I cannot start my day without it. If I know 39 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: when I haven't done it, I will have the most 40 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: off day ever and I won't be able to sort 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: of step into that energy and that power. So meditation 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: is like the key for me. 43 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm so with you on that one. 44 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: Like I can notice a huge difference in my mood 45 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: and just how I show up as a person. 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's what I say to everyone. 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, do meditation, even if it's just for one minute, 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: like you set yourself up for the whole day. It's amazing. 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh well that's such a good one, very much like 50 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: I would have said that. So love that, Ali, Rah, 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: can you tell the audience who you are and what 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: you do? I know you have your hands in lots 53 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: of many pies, so yeah, tell the audience who you 54 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: are and what you do. 55 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I know, it's such like it's the golden question. 56 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm a multifaceted human being. So I'm a meditation teacher. 57 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm a curve model. I am also a energy healer 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: so specializing in reiki. I'm also a psychic. What else 59 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: do I do? I do lots honestly, and I'm just 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: not afraid to sort of put myself out there. And 61 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm also a life coach. Yeah. 62 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Amazing. 63 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: And tell us more about who you are, lag So 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: that's definitely Korea wise. 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: Who you are as a person. 66 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Who I am as a person. I'm pretty loud, I'm 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: pretty out there. I'm pretty I think everything that I 68 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: do resonates with some form of my personality, if that 69 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: makes sense. But I guess just me as a human, 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty unapologetically me. I have no filter. I'm just 71 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. My friends would say I'm really fun 72 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: to be around, and usually iand the life of the party. 73 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. 74 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: I love that. 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's chat a bit about your path because 77 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: it is super interesting. And I know that you shared 78 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: in an interview a while ago that you started out 79 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: as a photographer in a pr role, which started off great, 80 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: but fell into a bit of a low with your 81 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: mental health and turned to alcohol, and you said that 82 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: you turned your life around, went sober, tapped into your 83 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: intuition to understand this spiritual side of yourself. Can you 84 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: tell us more about this, you know, this background and 85 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: this kind of breaking point and how that. 86 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Turned into turning to your intuition. Yeah. 87 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I my life is just one big 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: crazy one. I feel like I'm at the point where 89 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I could write a memoir. But yeah, So I was 90 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: a photographer and I did a lot of things on 91 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: social media for businesses and things like that, which was 92 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: really fun, and I was really sort of at the 93 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: peak of my career, I guess, and I was in 94 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: a relationship with my husband back in the day and 95 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: then HUM and I split up, and within the last 96 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: like probably two years, I sort of I spiraled, I 97 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, hit the booze. I just was turned into 98 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: a little party animal. I think we all go through 99 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: that phase, but I guess mine was just accessive to 100 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: the point where it overtook my life and my mental 101 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: well being was just not a priority. Partying was my priority, 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and just being an idiot of a human being was 103 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: a priority. And I say to everyone, I had to 104 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: hit that low to get to the ultimate high. And 105 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: that high was sort of me realizing that I'm so 106 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: much greater than drinking alcohol and partying every weekend, that 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I had the ability to change, and I did, and 108 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: I studied to be a life coach. I decided I 109 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: was going to tap into that spiritual side of myself 110 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: that I'd always had from a young age. I tapped 111 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: into that, and then I did my Reiki course, and 112 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: then it just sort of all came into effect. Within 113 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: the last I reckon, probably six to eight months, just 114 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: everything really blew up in such a positive way. I 115 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: guess that whole thing of what you put out there 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: is what you get back, and that's exactly how life happened. 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I stopped drinking. I mean, look, I drink every now 118 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: and then, but it's just not a priority for me. 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I'd rather just have that amazing abundance around me and 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: keep my mental health in check rather than being an idiot. 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: So that's just like a small little nutshell of me. 122 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of women resonate with me 123 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: on that. 124 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, And I think it's really interesting. 125 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: I love what you said about, you know, having that 126 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: priority and something I wanted to ask you, and I 127 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: think the Rise and Conquer listeners would be thinking this too, 128 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: is you know, we talk about intuition a lot, and 129 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: we talk about trust your intuition, trust your gut, and 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: you know, as women, we should be able to tap 131 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: into our intuition. 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: But for you, how do you. 133 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Strengthen your intuition and how do you tap into your intuition? 134 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: What is and look like for you? 135 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Good question. I mean for me to tap in 136 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: meditation has always been my superpower in that respect. Everyone's different, 137 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's just all about being present, being 138 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: super self aware. I do believe that alcohol is a blocker, 139 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: so it doesn't like actually help us tap into our 140 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: inner power. So if people are wanting to really dive deeper, 141 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: then stop the boost for a little bit, really listen 142 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: to your body, feel your body, and that's when we're 143 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: actually going to tap into that intuition. Because half the 144 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: time we're making a decision based on our ego, our ego, 145 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it's like yeah, do it, like, go for it, girlfriend, 146 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: whereas we're not actually sitting being present, feeling into that 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: intuition and just tapping in and being like, oh no, 148 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: this is what it should be. This is how it 149 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: should be. This is how I'm actually feeling rather than 150 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: anything else. And I guess to keep that intuition flowing. 151 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: For me, I'm always as grounded as I possibly can be, 152 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and that's ensuring that I'm going out in nature at 153 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: least once a dain and just putting my feet in 154 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: the earth and taking a few deep breaths to be like, yep, 155 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm here, like this is it. I'm fine and I'm 156 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: okay with it. Yeah. 157 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: I love that. 158 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: And talk to us about So you did say you 159 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: do energy healing, which is reiki healing. Can you talk 160 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: to us about what is that. 161 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So energy healing is where we sort of shift 162 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: around energy that you may be storing, so whether that's 163 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: physical or emotional, so it's through the palms of our hands. 164 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: I'll come in and a client will be like, oh, 165 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know, not feeling myself, and I'll be able 166 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: to sort of pick up where I need to move 167 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: out that energy. When you go through a session, it 168 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: can be like a form of a release for some people, 169 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: especially when we're holding onto those suppressed emotions, especially from 170 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: childhood and trauma and things like that. So energy healing 171 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: is a great holistic way of looking after your I 172 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: guess overall wellbeing in that respect, and I just highly 173 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: recommend that people do it because it's sort of it's interesting, 174 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: especially for skeptics. They're like, oh, I'd never do something 175 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, okay, let me, like do 176 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: energy work on you. Because at the end of the day, 177 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: everything that we touch and everything we feel is a 178 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: form of energy. So when someone comes in and they're like, oh, okay, 179 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: let's give it a go, and I do a session 180 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: with them, they're mind blown. So it's it's pretty it's intense, 181 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: and that's what I say to people, and like, it's intense, 182 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: so just be mindful when you're going into a session 183 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: because you're shifting about lots of emotions and things like that. 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, And I find it so interesting. And 185 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: I guess like a very kind of in topic we 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: can talk about is like, you know, twenty twenty has 187 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: just been a crazy Yeah, it's like so yeah, it's 188 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: just we all know it's been a crazy year. I 189 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: was wondering if you have any tips for the audience, 190 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: because this podcast is a big actionable tip as sort 191 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: of place that the listeners come to. 192 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: Do you have any. 193 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Tips for them in regards to if they are feeling 194 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: just super drained from this year and the sort of 195 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: hectic things that are happening. 196 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: Do you have any tips or practices for them? 197 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was something that I had to really 198 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: establish when everything did happen, when we as a collective 199 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: walked into this current climate that we're in. I had 200 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: to sit back and be like, Okay, what can I 201 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: do for me? And I guess the tips that I 202 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: can say to people is reduce your screen time. I 203 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like that's the most important thing. We're such we're 204 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: so like conditioned to wake up, check our phones and 205 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: be like, oh I better just like double check everything 206 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and all our socials and things like that. I'm like, 207 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: reducing the screen time will help being as present as 208 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: possible in what is happening right here and now. I 209 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: feel is such a good tip for people to do, 210 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: because we are so conditioned to just think, you know, 211 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ahead, a couple of months ahead, 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: when we should just be bringing it back down to 213 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: ground level and being like no, like I need to 214 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: be like right here and right now. It's so important. 215 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was sorry. 216 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: I was just going to add on that because it's funny. 217 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: I recently went to a retreat where there was like 218 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: they tell you, like, don't bring your phone, there's no 219 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: reception there, and you do like you wake up, you 220 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: do tai chi, you do meditations and yoga, and it was, 221 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, it was exactly what I hated. But 222 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: the Yeah, the biggest thing that I realized is how 223 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: much I live in the future and how much I 224 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: live in you know, my to do list and my 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: my next week and you know, the next forecasting the future. 226 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: And I they were kind of explaining it as like 227 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: a future tripper, and I like, that is me to 228 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: a t and I tend to live in the future. 229 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: And it the feeling that I got when I, you know, 230 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: just spent these couple of days getting grounded and just 231 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: being present is it was like the only way I 232 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: can describe it was like quite blissful. 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And when you think, I feel as 234 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: though for me from personal experience, when I'm projecting into 235 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the future, it's almost like I'm making my anxiety worse 236 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: than what it already is, so therefore I'm not able 237 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: to stay present and calm. And that's why I say 238 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: to clients, I'm like, if we can just bring it 239 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: back to ground level and just worry about what's in 240 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: front of us and be present in what's happening around us, 241 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: then I feel like we won't be as stressed and 242 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: we won't be as congested as in our brains. But yeah, 243 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I love that you went on a retreat. 244 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm envious because I'm down in lockdown at the momentause. 245 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, well, it was quite It was literally about 246 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: like maybe you know, twenty minutes away, very lucky to 247 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: live where we do, but it was like up in 248 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: the hills and it was just the best thing. 249 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I love that. 250 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: What about practices for being present? I know you've kind 251 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: of already said a couple, but how do you kind 252 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: of really tap into being more present? 253 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely. Journaling for me is a big one, 254 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: and just sort of I try and do mindfulness every 255 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: single morning. So when I'm making my coffee, for instance, 256 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm standing there, I'm feeling everything, I'm smelling the coffee, 257 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm tasting the coffee, I'm checking in with myself. I 258 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: just feel like being present can be as simple as 259 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: you being mindfulness in your surroundings. I don't feel like 260 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: we are one hundred percent mindful when we're sitting there 261 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: scrolling on our phones because we're sort of worried about 262 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: what we should be doing, what we should be posting, 263 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: and things like that. And I just say to people, 264 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: just stop and just feel the around you. That's how 265 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: you are going to be one hundred percent present in 266 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: yourself and just check in with your feelings. I think 267 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: we forget as human beings. We're so worried about everybody 268 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: else that we don't actually stop and listen to how 269 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: our bodies are feeling. But I think that's my sort 270 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: of little tips on how to stay as present as possible. 271 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: I love that. I definitely. 272 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan of the checking in with 273 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: yourself because it is just so easy to go, oh yeah, 274 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I checked with myself, I'm fine, But when you actually 275 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: really get quiet and check in with yourself is yeah, 276 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: such a key thing for me too. 277 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, one hundred percent. 278 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, let's switch gears and let's talk about your psychic abilities. 279 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: So I know this is you know, it's a bit 280 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: of a taboo topic, and like you said, there's lots 281 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: of skeptics, and I'm sure some listeners are kind of 282 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: listening to this and just being like, oh, yeah, like, 283 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: you know, psychic abilities. But I really I'm and to 284 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: be completely honest, I was definitely one of those people. 285 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: I actually grew up at Jehovah's. 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Witness, so I was not allowed to watch Harry Potter 287 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: because it involved magic makes so I was very closed 288 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: off to anything like that. And I'm not a Jehovah's 289 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Witness and neither are like my parents or anything like that. 290 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: But I had an. 291 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: Experience kind of recently in the last year or so, 292 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: and I have a girlfriend who She's always had kind 293 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: of psychic sort of abilities and very much been into 294 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: crystal energy and that sort. 295 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: Of side of things. 296 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: And recently I've noticed since I was sixteen, and recently 297 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: she kind of called me and she was like, I 298 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: know this is really weird, but like, you know, I've 299 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: had a message from your guides or whatever you call them, 300 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: and do you want it? 301 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, of course I do being made. 302 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: And anyway, we had this beautiful conversation and it was 303 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: just really it was really interesting, and it was so uncanny, 304 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't believe how on point she was because 305 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: I was kind of withdrawn on myself and experiencing these 306 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: certain feelings and I hadn't told anyone, and you know, 307 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: just the stuff she said, I just was like, oh 308 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: my god, Like how does she know if that makes sense? 309 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: And so it was such this beautiful experience that for 310 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: the first time, I guess I opened my mind to 311 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: this possibility of you know, I had always you know, 312 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: was always into meditation and you know, shifting energy and 313 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: that sort of thing, but I opened my mind to 314 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: this kind of other. 315 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: Realm, if we call it. I don't know. I'm not 316 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: good with. 317 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: And so I would love to have a conversation with 318 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: you about kind of what you experience with your psychic 319 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: abilities and what it looks like for you. 320 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: So that's such a broad question, it's so good. I 321 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: guess there are different types of psychics depending on what 322 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: you can see, you feel, et cetera. For me, I 323 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: have the ability to channel messages exactly what your friend 324 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: is doing from your guides or even my spirit guides 325 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: to pass on to people. So if you were to 326 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: do a session with me, i'd get you in, even 327 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: just via FaceTime. I shuffle cards and I use them 328 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: as my reference just to sort of pick up on anything. 329 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: And I guess bring that energy healer. I can pick 330 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: up on your body language, on your energy itself and 331 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: see where you're sitting, and then the messages will just 332 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: flow on in. It's almost like I'm thinking, it's almost 333 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: like my brain is I'm thinking of these sort of 334 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: answers so to speak, that are coming on in that 335 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: I had to really trust myself and be like, no, 336 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: these actual messages coming in for people, and some of 337 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: it can just come out like verbal diarrhea that I'm 338 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: just not even who I'm not even like me if 339 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: that makes sense, Like messages will just flow on in 340 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: and people are like, how did you know that. I'm like, 341 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just like it just came in, 342 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: Like this is what I'm supposed to like pass on 343 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to you. I do have past loved ones come and 344 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: visit me if they want to pass on a message 345 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: to one of their loved ones at the Earth's side, 346 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: which is so beautiful. But I guess it just depends 347 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: on the person as well too, and how open they 348 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: are to receiving that information when they're with me. 349 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's I think that's a huge component because 350 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: I think it's very easy to kind of, you know, 351 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: not believe in that sort of side of things. But 352 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: that's what I found my experience of it wasn't until 353 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: I kind of opened myself and then now like I've 354 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: just yeah, like I've I've noticed such a huge shift 355 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: in me and even my intuition mm hmm. 356 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's what I say to people. 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But let's get back into the episode. 393 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: And so, do you do. 394 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, do you do any like practices 395 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: to kind of strengthen the psychic ability or do you 396 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: just kind of find now that you're open to it, 397 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: it just kind of flows on in. 398 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: It's sort of it depends on the day. It's so weird. 399 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Some days I can wake up and I'm already channeling messages. 400 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: Some days it will take me a little bit to 401 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: sort of wake up, you know, have my coffee maybe 402 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: open up a little bit, do a meditation, maybe do 403 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: a bit of yoga, just to be like, Okay, I'm 404 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: open to receiving more than anything. And I guess it 405 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: just depends on the group of clients that I have 406 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: for the day too. I can sometimes see trends for 407 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: the certain people that are booked in for the day, 408 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, if they're all open, then I'm going 409 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: to start getting messages straight away. But if there's people 410 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: that are a little bit still on the fence or 411 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: their friends are booked in for them, I'm like, Okay, 412 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: today it's going to be an interesting day because whether 413 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: or not messages will come on through for them, it's 414 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: all dependent on them. If they're just open to receiving, yeah. 415 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so interesting. 416 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: And then do you ever have kind of like intense 417 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: experiences where it's kind of it's not, you know, a 418 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 2: positive experience, it's almost too intense, or you don't experience anything. 419 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: That I haven't with a client. I mean, I've had 420 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: experiences in the past. If I'd say I've gone to 421 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: maybe someone's like a certain house or a certain area 422 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: and I've just felt, say the trauma that's been felt 423 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: in that house, or I've just felt something really negative 424 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: more than anything. But I think when you are a 425 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: psychic in when you are in this space, you know 426 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: how to protect yourself from those I guess bad situations 427 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: and a negative situation so to speak. I'll never tell 428 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: a client anything negative if it was going to come through. 429 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: I guess it is all dependent on that person's well 430 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: being as well too, because a lot of people book 431 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: in to see psychics because they're at their most vulnerable 432 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: time in their lives and they want a little bit 433 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: of guidance and a little bit of kick up the 434 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: butt to just be like, Okay, what do I need 435 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: to do? Where do I need to go? So I 436 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: think when people do book in with psychics, we have 437 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: a duty of care to look after you at the 438 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: end of the day too. We're not going to tell 439 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: you absolutely everything that you need to hear right here 440 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: and now, because we want to look after you as 441 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: well too. 442 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: That's beautiful. I love that. Yeah, amazing. 443 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to switch gears again and I 444 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: want to chat about on your Instagram, you have made 445 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: a post and it says I am here to change 446 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: the narrative of the wellness space in what ways are 447 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: you trying to change the wellness space and create more 448 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: awareness about spiritual practices that come from indigenous people. 449 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, good question. So given my experience, I guess being 450 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: not only Aboriginal, but being a curvier woman. Stepping into 451 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the wellness space has always been a bit of a 452 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: tricky one for me because I just saw the space 453 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: as such a white space, a white dominate space where 454 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of number one Black representation 455 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: through the space, and I didn't see a lot of 456 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: cultural awareness being used in this space either. So for me, 457 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: it was all about me coming into this space with 458 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: my knowledge, with my training, with my skills, to be like, 459 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to offer everybody, this is 460 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: how you should be learning off me. We should be 461 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: conscious of the practices that we are doing, ensuring that 462 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: they are culturally safe for all types of people in 463 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: all different backgrounds, and just ensuring that I don't know, 464 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: we're just keeping our spaces as safe as possible. I 465 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: just thought the wellness space it's such a testy space. 466 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: It's very much everyone's love and lie. Whereas I'm like, no, 467 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: we need to have, like, you know, cultural practices that 468 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: are correct in spaces and people not appropriating culture as 469 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: well too within these spaces, which I think really important, 470 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: and respecting the origins of where these particular practices have 471 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: come from as well. 472 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what I found so insightful with your Instagram, 473 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: like one hundred percent, Like I didn't I remember looking 474 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: at your Gram and going through some posts and yeah, 475 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: just being super like, oh wow. 476 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that. 477 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: I didn't understand that, And so I was wondering, how 478 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: can people you know, who use practices that traditionally come 479 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: from in the indigenous space become more culturally aware or 480 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: respect them more. For example, I know burning sage, which 481 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know before. Is there you know a certain 482 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: resource we can look to or what's your ideas on that? 483 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think well, I mean, like I'm I want 484 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: people to know that you're not in the wrong with 485 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: things that you're currently doing. It's all about just educating 486 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: yourself on what you should and shouldn't be doing. I 487 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: guess I've been pulled up a couple of times too 488 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: from other cultures being like you can't use that. I'm like, awesome, 489 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: thank you so much for letting me know, Like at 490 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: least I know, so then I can tell other people. 491 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: So I think stage is fine. I've done my research. 492 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Sage is so fine to use. You just have to 493 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: ensure that I guess it's coming from an ethically sourced 494 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: brand and it doesn't have chemicals in it more than anything, 495 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: and I think people need to understand that smudging is 496 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: a tool from you know, Aboriginal practices and Native American 497 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: practices that they've used for over you know, sixty thousand years. 498 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: So we just need to be conscious of that more 499 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: than anything. If we are using say Parlo Santa, I 500 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: think that's where we're having like we're going down a 501 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: really tricky avenue where that's endangered and that is a 502 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: form of cultural appropriation and we probably shouldn't be using 503 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: it because that is used by our Native American brother 504 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: and sisters. So I just think if people, you know, 505 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: get educated and create awareness around these sorts of practices, 506 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: then they're going to be fine. They're going to be 507 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: absolutely fine. It's just when people are so blase about it, 508 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: that's when it can come tricky territory more than anything. 509 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: I love what you said also about you know, you 510 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: saying there's been times where you have been pulled up 511 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: and you're like, awesome, thank you for letting me know 512 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: and having that sort of attitude about that. 513 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I just think how else am 514 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: I supposed to grow as an individual if people aren't 515 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: going to pull me up? I mean that happens within 516 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: our community space as well. If you know me is 517 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: an average a woman, I'm not following, say, my certain 518 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: cultural protocol, then I'm going to get pulled up. And 519 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for that, because how else am I supposed 520 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: to learn? 521 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 522 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: I love that, and so tell us, how are you 523 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: bringing your Aboriginal heritage into your healing work? 524 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? So well, I am a trained reiki practitioner, and 525 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: when I did do the course, it felt a little bit, 526 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: I guess second nature, because if you do a little 527 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: bit of research on Aboriginal healers, we do have traditional 528 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: healers that are still alive and working, say out in 529 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: certain hospitals and things like that, but they fall within 530 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: different language groups. So for me, it was all about 531 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: making sure that my space was culturally safe for Aboriginal 532 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: women and men to walk into. I use traditional clap 533 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: sticks through my healings. I still use my reiki practices 534 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: as the baseline. I just happened to maybe have Aboriginal 535 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: music playing as well too. I use the clapsticks. I'm 536 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: acknowledging country before i even start my practice. It's just 537 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: little simple sort of things, bringing those cultural practices in 538 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: that modern sort of energy healing that makes it more special. 539 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: Well too, Yes, I love that, and I love what 540 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: you said about how when you did your akid course, 541 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: like it almost felt like second nature to you. 542 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, it just I was like doing it, 543 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, this feels like second nature. And 544 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, if people look up Aboriginal healers, they're 545 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: just Aboriginal people. We're very powerful people, very powerful human 546 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: beings because we're not just surface level, you know. You 547 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: think about our cultural history and our spiritual practices as 548 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: well too. We've got so much to offer and so 549 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: much to offer individuals as well too. 550 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: I love that. Thank you so much for sharing. 551 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: That's okay. 552 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: So, as you mentioned earlier, or I think it was me, actually, 553 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: you have your hands in a lot of pies and 554 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: roles in your roles involved helping and healing others, which I'm. 555 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: Sure is a lot. 556 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: What practices do you use. And I'm sure we've kind 557 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: of been talking about this the whole time, but what 558 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: practices do you use to ground yourself and really fill 559 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: up your own cup? Because I could imagine that, and 560 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know this is your personal experience, 561 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: but I could imagine that the work you do could 562 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: maybe be draining. 563 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is? It so easy? No, it is, yeah, 564 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people don't realize that. 565 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it can be one hundred per draining, but 566 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: it also can be really energizing too. And I guess me, 567 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: being an EmPATH, I feed off other people's energies. But 568 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: the way that I feel my cup is it's really 569 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: stupid things in people's lives. It's like making sure that 570 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm having a day in bed watching you know, Netflix 571 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: or something, or making sure that I'm if I'm wanting 572 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: a day in my pajamas, that that's me filling my cup. 573 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: And that's so okay, no guilty to it. I'm a 574 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: stickler for getting a fortnightly massage. Every fortnight, I you know, 575 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: get my massage done, because that's looking after my body. 576 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: I have to make sure that I'm you know, doing 577 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: yoga every day that's filling my cup. It's like simple, 578 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: simple things that sort of I'm able to do to 579 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: make me feel one hundred percent energies and one hundred 580 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: percent myself. 581 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I love what you said about, you know, having 582 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: a day where you're just in your pajamas and you're 583 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: watching Netflix, but then also not attaching guilt to that day, 584 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: because I think we can all, like you know, have 585 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: those days where we do sort of lounge about, or 586 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: we just watch TV, or we have junk food. But 587 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: then if we're connecting and associating guilt to that day, 588 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: it's kind of like you're wasting. 589 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: It that's here, and it's hard. It's hard to pull 590 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: away from that guilt. It took me ages to be 591 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: okay with, say, not responding to emails and not responding 592 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: to people in my dms, because I'm like, these people 593 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: will wait, they're contacting me at the end of the day, 594 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: they can wait. No one's running away, there's no I 595 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: don't need to associate any guilt. And I just feel 596 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: I've made this like thing in my head that Sundays 597 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: are a family day and that's my day to spend 598 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: time with my loved ones and with myself, and I 599 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: think if people have that allocated day for self care 600 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: and just think no, it's okay to switch off, then 601 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: they will be one hundred percent fine. 602 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: I love that. One hundred percent Easier said than done. 603 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it. 604 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: And so talk to. 605 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: Us about I know COVID nineteen has it's been different 606 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: for everyone to navigate, but tell us about how this 607 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: period of time has affected you and your business and 608 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: how you're kind of, you know, navigating it and still 609 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: making things work for you. 610 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. So in my eyes on I guess my personal experience, 611 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: I COVID nineteen has sort of been a little bit 612 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: of a blessing for me because it's made me slow 613 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: right down. It's made me realize that I need to, 614 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, focus on me, and there's nothing wrong with that. 615 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: My business has somewhat boomed in that respect because people 616 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: just want more wellness, self development, and more I guess 617 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: nurturing within their space at the moment, which I absolutely 618 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: love because I feel like that's where people need to invest, 619 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: invest in themselves and invest in their overall well being. 620 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: But I also say to people during this time, it's 621 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: so okay to feel whatever you may be feeling like 622 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: your feelings are so valid, do not dismiss them. But 623 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: I think because I've just had such a positive experien sperience, 624 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm also just conscious of being like, Okay, you can't 625 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: just go around being like, oh, COVID has been great 626 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: for me because I'm conscious of a lot of people 627 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: have lost their jobs and a lot of people are 628 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: going through a really tough time at the moment. But 629 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 1: I guess it's just been a blessing for me because 630 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: it's taught me to really really slow down and just 631 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: really look after my overall well being. 632 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that you're seeing it in that 633 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: positive light and you're really sort of, yeah, taking out 634 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: the positive of the situation that's been Yeah. And so 635 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: I would love for you to talk to the R 636 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: and C listeners about advice. 637 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 3: And because you know, you have branched. 638 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: Off and you are like I can just I can 639 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: tell from your socials you are completely stepping in your 640 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: power and doing your thing and really doing what lights 641 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: you up and what you're passionate about. And I think 642 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: you know me, I came from a corporate background from 643 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: doing something I thought I you know, had to do, 644 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: rather than doing something that I love to do or 645 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: what I was passionate about. 646 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: And I know. 647 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: Lots of listeners are kind of in the same boat. 648 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: So I'd love for you to give any advice surrounding 649 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: going after what they're passionate about, if you have, you know, 650 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: some simple ways that you know people can maybe change 651 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: their mindset to believe that they can actually take that route. 652 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: I love this question because I have friends that constantly 653 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: ask me how do I just do what I want 654 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: to do and how do I add fuel to my 655 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: fire and pursue my passion? And I always sort of 656 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: turn around and say, honestly, what is the worst that 657 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: could happen? You give it a go and it fails, 658 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: So what go on to the next thing? What's the 659 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: worst thing that's going to happen. I'm really risky in 660 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: that respect with my life. I'm just like, just go 661 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: for it. Life is too short, as cliche as that sounds, 662 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: but we're all put on this earth for a purpose, 663 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: and I do believe that we should all follow that 664 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: passion and figure out our purpose and our drive and 665 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: just take the leap and just just go for it. 666 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: I just I just say, there's nothing worse. I mean 667 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: I've been there, Georgie. I've been in the corporate the 668 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: world for ages, and it's just like, I'd never go 669 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: back to that, because why would you want to work 670 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: a nine to five grind when you could be doing 671 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: all the things that you're making up in your head 672 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I actually could do that, like 673 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: give it a crack, there's yeah, one hundred percent, just 674 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: go for it. 675 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: I well, as you know, I absolutely love that, and 676 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: I can agree more. And I love what you said 677 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: about what's the worst that can happen is you fail 678 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: and then you go on to the next thing. 679 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 3: And I think it's. 680 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: Huge because in our sort of you know, like our culture, 681 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: it's very much people are so afraid to fail, and 682 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: it's like why, like, if anything, you're. 683 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: Just going to learn about yourself. 684 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: And I even speak about that in regards to when 685 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: I quit my corporate job and then I kind of 686 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: went off and did these things. 687 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: And even though I knew that those things. 688 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: Like I did in like an ebook about intuitive eating, 689 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 2: and I did, you know, various things, and even though 690 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: I knew they weren't like I actually knew they weren't 691 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: necessarily like my end goal or the thing. I just 692 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: I knew they were some sort of stepping stone to 693 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: the thing, if that makes sense, And I know if 694 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: I kind of didn't just do it, I would sort 695 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: of never find it. 696 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I love that you said that. 697 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I just think everything is a 698 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: learning curve and the universe will place things in front 699 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: of you to test you to see if you are 700 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: ready to level up. And yours would have been that 701 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: that corporate gig to be like, is she actually ready 702 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: to level up and step into the person that she's 703 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: actually wanting to become? And you've gone, Yep, this is 704 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: not for me. I want to go and do something 705 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: much more grander and amazing. So I just feel like 706 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: take it as lessons. Everyone, just like, go for it. 707 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: Life is way too short. And if this year hasn't 708 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: taught us anything about, you know, life being too short, 709 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know what will, because we just need 710 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: to chase our dreams. Like as funny as that sounds, 711 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: just go for it. 712 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: Oh well, I couldn't agree more. Thank you for touching 713 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: on that. 714 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: So I want to ask you one last question to 715 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: wrap up the show, and I ask all my guests 716 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,959 Speaker 2: this question. So I want to ask you what would 717 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: you tell yourself? And this is like, I'm kind of 718 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: looking for a bit of a. 719 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: Pep talk, if you will. I love my pep talks. 720 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 2: What would you tell yourself if you're feeling self doubt 721 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: or fear around and you know, taking a next step 722 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: or doing something new? 723 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 3: What is the pep talk you give yourself? 724 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: I do this all the time because I suffer from 725 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: social anxiety. So for me, I literally have to give 726 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: myself these pep talks. So I'm always like, go for it, 727 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: just do it, Like what's the worst it's going to happen. 728 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: Just jump in the deepen. And I always revert back 729 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: to that diagram that I've seen of the magic happens 730 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone. There's no point in sitting 731 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: in this little bubble that we love being in. It's 732 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: all about stepping outside of that bubble and just being 733 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in order for us to grow as human beings. 734 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: I love it. 735 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: Alira, you have been so such a pleasure and I 736 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: cannot thank you enough for coming on the Rise and 737 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: Conuer podcasts. 738 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. 739 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: Of course, can you let add the listeners and't it 740 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: know where they can find you and where they can 741 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: come and be around you. 742 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: Yes, so I guess come to my instaff a Lira 743 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: dot Potter and that's where you'll find all my resources 744 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: and booking and have a chat and whatever. 745 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 3: Amazing. Well, thank you so much, Thank you so much. 746 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: And that's a wrap on another episode of the Rise 747 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: and Conquered Podcast. I hope you enjoyed it, and I 748 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: hope you got a lot out of that interview. I 749 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: know I did. If you did love it, it would mean 750 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: the absolute world. If you took a screenshot and shared 751 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: it on your story and tag me and a Lira 752 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: and the podcast. I know I absolutely love sharing those 753 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: and I love seeing that you've enjoyed the episode. Also, 754 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: while I'm here, I just want to say a big 755 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: thank you for the love and support on season three 756 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: on the podcast. We're an independent pod and you know 757 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 2: I put a lot of time and energy into this, 758 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: so I just I really really appreciate it. But I 759 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: hope you have an amazing day or night whenever you're listening, 760 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: and I'll chat to you in our next episode. Bye. 761 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 3: Use But to me, there's no maybe there's only time 762 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: for dreams where I hear the call, and I got 763 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: my laces. 764 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: See