1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Well, there's plenty happening in the first light. Land lots 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: part of Stage one of the Holt's land release are 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: ready to hit the market, giving Territorians the chance to 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: enter the property market for less than two hundred thousand dollars. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: So the developer of the new neighborhood called The Parks 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: has acquired a development permits and is offering an initial 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: release of thirty three lots starting from one hundred and 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: eighty nine thousand dollars. Now we know that that certainly 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: this area is something that people have been interested in 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Joining us on the line to 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: tell us more is the Minister for Lands and Planning, 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Josh Burgoing. Good morning to you, Josh. 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning to you listening. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. Thanks so much 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: for your time this morning. Now tell us a little 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: bit more about this land release. How big are the 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: blocks and what kind of housing like? What you know, 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: I guess what's it all mean for Territorians? 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Katie. So obviously we've got the Holt Stage one 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: land release which was just announced. How the day I 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 2: was up in down sweating my absolute backside off up there. 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: It's been nice and warm. I had my big hat 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: on for the big announcement and thirty three lots in 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: stage one is what we're talking about at the moment, 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: with lots from three hundred and sixty square meters up 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: to five hundred and fifty five. So it's really about 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: giving people that option to get into the market. When 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: I was a young bloke, I took advantage of a 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: home builder scheme. It was twenty eight grand back when 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: I was building my first home and that was fantastic 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: to be able to get my foot in the door 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: so that I could have my own piece of the territory. 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: And with our territory government fifty thousand dollars grant that's 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: available for first home builders, it really gives people a 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: great opportunity. There's going to be a range of blocks 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: of land available and I guess the message is get 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: in before you miss out, because there's some great opportunities 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: now in the top end to set down routes, to 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: build your first home and to hopefully stay in the 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: territory long term. 41 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Minister. There has been opposition to this over the years, 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: so hasn't there I mean, people have been worried about 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it's sort of urbanizing rural out of 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Darwin one percent. 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: And I actually spoke to our good mate Jerry would 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: about this. I hope he doesn't mind me revealing our 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: private conversations, but he's been one of those people that's 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: been obviously emailing me voicing his concerns around this. As Minister, 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: I looked at the blocks. Originally some of those frontages 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: were only going to be ten square meters sorry, ten 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: meters across the front so you know, by the time 52 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: you put in your garage door and a bedroom and 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: a big nine hundred millimeter wide door doesn't leave a 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: whole lot of room for anything else. I was able 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: to get in there work with the developers. It's now 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: been increased by two meters. Now. I know that doesn't 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: sound like a lot to some people, but it does 58 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: allow you know, it's been great to actually see that 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: there's been some compromise there. It means that the developer 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: has lost out on some additional lots, but what it 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: now means is that they're the minimum size of those 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: smaller lots, of which there's only I don't have exactly 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: how many there are, but there's obviously a lot less 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: of them now has been reduced. The minimum has gone 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: from ten to twelve meter frontages, so obviously the minimum's 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: whole size of that block's gone up to three hundred 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: and sixty square meters. So it's about listing to the community. 68 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: And I hear that loud and clear. You know, I'm 69 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: fortunate enough to live in an area where I've got 70 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: a big eight hundred and seventy five square meter block, 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: and that was really important to me to have that option. 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: And when we look at the range of lots that 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: are available in this there'll be some that are smaller, 74 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: there'll be some that are larger as well. So it's 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: just about giving people the options. If you're getting older, 76 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: you still want to live in that rural area, but 77 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: you don't want a big block of land. This is 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: something you can get into and really, you know, continue 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: to live in that area you love, but don't have 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: the big block of land that you have to look after. 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: When it is a tough juggle. I would suspect in 82 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: the sense that you know that people obviously want to 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: keep rural rural, but then you have also got first 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: time buyers and people wanting to enter the housing market 85 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: and they need to have options, so it is a juggle. 86 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, absolutely, and this is something I do with daily. 87 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: You know, we've all heard about the future areas for 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: Humpty Doo and for Bury Springs and all the rest 89 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: of it. And again as the Planning Minister, when I 90 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: look at some of these, they call them service areas. 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: I guess it's about enabling some smaller blocks around the 92 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: service hubs, the service centers like Humpty do and maybe 93 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: into the future at other areas. But what it's really 94 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: about is we want to keep the beautiful rural rule 95 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: as we all like to say, but also offer if 96 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: you're an aging person you absolutely love living out at 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Humpty Do, well, where's a slightly smaller block that you 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: could move into? And I think when we look at 99 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Holts it really is that beautiful sort of halfway between 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: the rural area. You've got Parmeston on your front door. 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of positives that can come out 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: of it. 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: Now, Minister, in terms of you know, those first times 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: being built, when do you expect that that's actually going 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: to happen. 106 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. I was out there on site with developers. 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: They're literally got the earth moving machinery in there. It's 108 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: pretty noisy to have a day, to be honest, but 109 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: it's all systems go and now hoping that by the 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: end of this year they'll have those titled lots ready 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: so people can can start building, because that's for a 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: lot of people that don't understand. It's about doing the earthworks, 113 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: putting in that enabling infrastructure, the power, the water, the surge, 114 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: and then essentially you'll have a clear block of land 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: and then the builder can get in and do what 116 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: he needs to do. So those titled lots is the 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: key what we're working towards, and that first area that's 118 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: going to be developed. If for those that actually know 119 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: that area in the new Palmerston Regional Hospital it's sort 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: of opposite, that is where that first bit of subdivision 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: is going to start and it will really just expand 122 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: from there and there's the possibility that if things really 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: kick off, you know, we're looking at five hundred and 124 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: forty new residential lots in that Greater Haltz area and 125 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: then obviously there's future plans for more and more, but 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: I think right now it's just about focusing on developing 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: that initial first stage, ensuring that people can see what 128 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be like. And what I was really 129 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: glad to see there's a range of parks available throughout 130 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: the area and that's been a big thing for where 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: I'm at at the moment. A lot of new young 132 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: families coming up. We all love to go to park 133 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: in the evening of the family and look. 134 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, I guess there's always going to be opposition. 135 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: I can understand the way that there has and why 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: there has been opposition in the past. As those new 137 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: homes come up and as we see you know, this 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: area expand do you think we're going to see sort 139 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: of future expansion of the Palmerston Regional Hospital or any 140 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: of the other related sort of infrastructure out there. 141 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: I think what this is really about is you've got 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: that Palmerston Regional Hospital that's sort of sitting on its 143 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: own out there, and then as people age, as people 144 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: want to access those services, it really gives you the 145 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: option then to move closer to those services and essentially 146 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: be be closer to the things that you need. And 147 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: that's what this is really about. The greater plan. Obviously, 148 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: there's you know, we can we can talk about, oh, 149 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: there'll be this, they'll be that. I think think what 150 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: it's about is realizing the potential right now, which is 151 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: there's the availability will be by the end of the 152 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: year for people to get into their first homes, and 153 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: then as we move through the different stages, it'll really 154 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: start opening up into its own little area. And it's 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: great that these things are happening. Absolutely, we know how 156 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: important it is to grow our population and I've always said, 157 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: you know, when we look at how we get growth, 158 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: if you build it, people will come. And I think 159 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: that's a really key part of this where we're putting 160 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: in the groundworks now ensuring there's lots available and hopefully 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: that'll attract a lot more people of the territory. 162 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, Minister for Lands and Planning, Josh Bergoing good to 163 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: speak with you this morning. How things in Alice Springs today? 164 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, Kati, I'm not gonna lie. I'm meeting with 165 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: police soon because there's a young man that's gone missing 166 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's on everyone's mind down here at 167 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: the moment. So meeting with police very soon just to 168 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 2: get a bit of an update. I hope he's safe 169 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: and by all reports it's yeah. I guess I can't 170 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: say too much at the moment, but we're just wanting 171 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: to to ensure that he's found safe and sound, because yeah, 172 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Brakling schools in my electorate. I went to Braklan Primary School, 173 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: so I think there's a lot of people in town 174 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: but know that young man and his family and we 175 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: just want to make sure. 176 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: Look, I have just got that info in front of me, 177 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: of course, twelve year old Jake. He was last seen 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: entering the school yard at a Braitling Primary school around 179 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: eight forty this morning. As you've said, they're at Braitling 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: Primary School. I mean, I've got a little boy that's 181 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: around that age. It's pretty terrifying stuff to think that 182 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: you could take your child to school and then they 183 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: go missing. 184 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: That's right, And I guess I don't know how much 185 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: I can say at the moment, Katie. It's believed he's 186 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: with someone that's known to him, so I guess, yeah, 187 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to really worry people. 188 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to really worry people. But you've seen 189 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: in these situations before where these sorts of things can happen, 190 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: and I guess the most important thing now is to 191 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: just find out where young Jake is and yeah, make 192 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: sure that he's safe. 193 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Josh Bergo, I really appreciate your time this morning. 194 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat with us, 195 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: and no doubt we'll talk to you again soon. 196 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your time. Catie take care, 197 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: Thank you you too,