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Speaker 1: The Museum and Dark Gallery of the Northern Territory is

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Speaker 1: renowned for preserving and sharing the story of Cyclone Tracy,

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Speaker 1: educating people on the experiences of survivors and the pivotal

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Speaker 1: event in Darwin's history. Now, head of the fiftieth anniversary

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Speaker 1: of the disaster, the museum is planning a major revitalization

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Speaker 1: of the exhibition, but it needs your help. Now. Joining

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Speaker 1: me on the line to tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: more is curator Jared Archibold. Good morning, Jared Good.

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Speaker 2: Okatie good everyone, lovely to.

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Speaker 1: Have you on the show. Jared. What's being envisaged for

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Speaker 1: the refresh of the exhibition?

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Speaker 2: Well, it the actual exhibition was first put up in

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Speaker 2: n nine four, so it is almost thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: We've done some different refreshes over time, but for the

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Speaker 2: fiftieth we want to make some much larger changes to it.

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Speaker 2: So some things will still be there, some of the elements,

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Speaker 2: but we're going to change those so they'll still be

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Speaker 2: a ninety seventies and we've got some amazing objects that

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Speaker 2: have been donated to us that can go into that.

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Speaker 2: We're also planning on having a nineteen seventies met Bureau,

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Speaker 2: so that people can get an idea of what it

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Speaker 2: would have been like to track a track the weather,

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Speaker 2: but also track cyclone Tracys are coming to Darn. The

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Speaker 2: sound room will stay. That won't be something that we

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Speaker 2: would ever get rid of, but we're going to change it.

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Speaker 2: It now doesn't comply to access things, so we're going

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Speaker 2: to actually have that rebuilt. And we've also got one

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Speaker 2: other thing. I'm not going to talk about it, but

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Speaker 2: we've got one thing that we've got planned that we

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Speaker 2: think is going to be pretty exciting and pretty interesting

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Speaker 2: for people. But we're going to keep the under wraps

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Speaker 2: for now, but.

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Speaker 1: A bit of a surprise plan. Yeah. Look, it is

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Speaker 1: such an interesting exhibition, and you know, as you said,

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Speaker 1: there is so much in there that I think if

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Speaker 1: you were here during cyclone Tracy as well, it would

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Speaker 1: like it would almost be, you know, a bit confronting

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Speaker 1: in some ways. And I know I've heard that from

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Speaker 1: almost some people just can't do it if they were

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Speaker 1: here for Cyclone Tracy because it just brings back too

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Speaker 1: many of those frightening memories. But for those of us

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Speaker 1: that weren't here, it's such insight into sort of how

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Speaker 1: it all would have sounded.

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Speaker 2: It is a partial insight into it. We can't actually

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Speaker 2: have it as loud as what it actually was. Just

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Speaker 2: be thundering within the museum and it would just be

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Speaker 2: too loud and those that don't want to go in

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Speaker 2: would still be able to hear it anyway. And the

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Speaker 2: other thing we actually do get quite a lot of

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Speaker 2: comments on it those that do actually go in that

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Speaker 2: it go through cyclone tracy, that there's not enough for

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Speaker 2: crashing and breaking and glass and the reason for that

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Speaker 2: is that wrecker. That recording was made in a concrete flat,

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Speaker 2: so Bishop Ted Collins who made it, it was actually

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Speaker 2: quite safe in that building. He could hear what was happening,

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Speaker 2: he could see what was going on outside in the

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Speaker 2: flashes of lightning and made that recording. But it's not

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Speaker 2: the same as what it was in the northern suburbs

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Speaker 2: where houses are actually being demolished around families and survivors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look, it would have been so incredibly frightening,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's it is just amazing

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Speaker 1: really to see the way that Darwin has rebuilt following

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Speaker 1: on from you know, from all accounts just absolute destruction.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yep. Darlin was wiped out both on land and

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Speaker 2: on the arbor as well. Yeah, twenty seven ships sunken,

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Speaker 2: your massive magnitude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jared, how reliant. He's the museum on you know,

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Speaker 1: right word is. It's not meant rebelia, but you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the different items that you've then got that

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Speaker 2: Look, really it's really important. So what what do you

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Speaker 2: Someone has taken something and kept it safe, and it's

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Speaker 2: that touchstone for that. So we've had some amazing objects.

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Speaker 2: So one of the ones I'll explain is a it's

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Speaker 2: nineteen seven thirty seven cyclone that wiped out Darln. It

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Speaker 2: survived the bombings of the Japanese and the looting of

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Speaker 2: the home that it was in. It was the only

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Speaker 2: family got back in nineteen forty six, and then it

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Speaker 2: was used as the family table. The table all the

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Speaker 2: way up to cyclone Tracy and survive then as well,

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Speaker 2: And we've now acquired that and that will be go

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Speaker 2: on display. So it's not a pretty table in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, but the story behind it is amazing.

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Speaker 1: So that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. It's the only object we have that

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Speaker 2: survived two cyclones. Wow, that is within it was in

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Speaker 2: a home. Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 1: And Jared, have you found that territori ins are quite

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Speaker 1: like people are quite open to donating things to the

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Speaker 1: museum for this exhibition and you know, really sharing their experiences.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, absolutely, And we also find lots of people

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Speaker 2: So you have to remember there were over forty five

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Speaker 2: thousand people in Darwin, and everyone experienced it in some way.

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Speaker 2: And many of those people weren't locals. They were people

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Speaker 2: different reasons. They were living here, working here, but when

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Speaker 2: But many of them took photographs. And that's something that

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Speaker 2: is probably the biggest thing that we're having offered to

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Speaker 1: Tracy, Yeah, now tell me in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 2: To a point, one of the problems we have with

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Speaker 2: breaks really quickly, no matter how no matter how tough

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Speaker 2: we make it. So there will be some of that,

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Speaker 2: but we are limiting it to a point because it

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Speaker 2: it'll be a lot to do with imagery, a lot

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Speaker 1: How much are you expecting the overhaul to cost?

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's a bit above my pay grade. I'm

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: No, that's why we're putting this out. We would love

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Speaker 2: the public to assist us with this. It'll obviously costs

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Speaker 2: more than fifty thousand. It'll be in the hundreds of thousands.

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Speaker 2: That's just how much things cost nowadays. And if people

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Speaker 2: in we would be very happy to receive it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is such like it's such an important

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Speaker 1: part of the Northern Territories history of Darwin's history, and

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Speaker 1: then it is such an important part of the museum

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Speaker 1: as well. And that exhibition. How many do you get

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that come into to the museum

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Speaker 1: Galery of the Northern Territory that are really keen to

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Speaker 1: see the Cyclone Tracy display.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look the way it usually works here when we

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Speaker 2: get visitors fishing in the state who haven't been here before,

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Speaker 2: but they've heard about the museum, the first thing they

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Speaker 2: ask for actually, and this is not sound a bit funny,

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Speaker 2: but they asked for the toilets, and then they ask

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Speaker 2: for Sweetheart and Cyclone Tracy, and then everything else follows

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Speaker 2: on from that, Aboriginal art, maritime history, all of that.

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Speaker 2: They want to see it all, but they're the two

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Speaker 2: things that are asked for the most. Sweetheart the croc

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Speaker 2: and Cyclone Tracy, because even international people know about Cyclone

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Speaker 2: Tracy and what it did to Darwin, and now that

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Speaker 2: they're visiting the city, they want to see how it

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Speaker 2: has changed from what happened to it in nineteen seventy four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jared, I really appreciate you having to chat

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Speaker 1: with us this morning and telling us more about what

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Speaker 1: is planned now. If anybody is keen, if they want

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Speaker 1: to make a donation, they can get in contact with

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Speaker 1: the Museum and Art Gallery of the Northern Territory to

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Speaker 1: do so, can't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. With monetary donations, just go to our website and

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to find out how to do that

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Speaker 2: very quickly. If it's something to do with actual relics

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Speaker 2: an email at info at m a GNT dot net

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Speaker 2: dot au. That's the best way to do it if

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Speaker 2: you just turn up. We're often so busy it's very

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Speaker 2: you send us an email first, we can talk to

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Speaker 2: you and work it through from there.

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Speaker 1: Well. Jared Archibald, curator with the Museum and Art Gallery

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Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory. Great to speak with you. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, and thanks everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you