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Speaker 2: I can't believe that I'm talking about being the sort

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Speaker 3: Do you think it just gets faster because we're getting older.

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Speaker 1: There's some research that says that that can happen.

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Speaker 3: Or is it just a fact that as the older

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of that as well. But

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Speaker 2: through April. Doing my head in. We should do the

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Speaker 2: intro Hi. This is the Happy Families podcasts. We're just faster.

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Speaker 2: We're Justin and Kylie Colson Real parenting Solutions every day

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Speaker 2: on Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. Every Friday, we relax

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Speaker 2: a little bit, become a little bit more informal, and

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Speaker 2: we do this thing called I'll do Better Tomorrow. We

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Speaker 2: have a look at the week that was, look at

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Speaker 2: what was working, what wasn't working, and how we can

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Speaker 2: make our families happier as a result. Of some intentional introspection. Kylie,

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Speaker 2: I want to share an email that we received that

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Speaker 2: blew my mind before we talk about our old do

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Speaker 2: better tomorrow, and you haven't heard this, so I'll be

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Speaker 2: curious to get your reaction. This was such a great email. Hi,

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Speaker 2: Justin and Kylie. Your recent episode The Worst Mother Who

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Speaker 2: Got It Right?

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Speaker 1: That was on the.

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Speaker 2: Twelfth of March, Episode one and ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Twelfth of March still Anor's Skanezzi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was truly eye opening. Something

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Speaker 2: just clicked for me about giving kids responsibility. I have

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Speaker 2: an eleven year old who often struggles with getting the school.

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Speaker 2: The anxiety of leaving the house can be overwhelming, even

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Speaker 2: though she loves school once she's there. The other morning,

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Speaker 2: I had to take one child to band practice early,

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Speaker 2: but my eleven year old was having a particularly tough time.

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Speaker 2: She was stressed, upset, and in no state to leave early.

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Speaker 2: But I still had to get her sister to band

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Speaker 2: whether she was ready or not, so I gently suggested

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Speaker 2: the first time ever, she looked at me in amazement,

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Speaker 2: as if she couldn't believe I would trust her with

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Speaker 2: She hesitated for a moment and asked, what if I

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Speaker 2: can't do it. I reassured her that if she needed help,

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Speaker 2: I also told her I knew she.

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Speaker 2: To give her the full experience of managing it on

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Speaker 2: her own, I stayed at BAND a little longer than necessary,

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Speaker 2: was locked, she was gone. She had done it, and

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Speaker 1: Hurrah. Kylie was absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Quote our children will walk out the door with confidence,

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Speaker 2: feeling empowered because someone believes that they are capable of

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Speaker 2: doing something hard. Close quote yeah, apparently you said that.

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Speaker 1: That's why we do this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I absolutely love that, And I can

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Speaker 3: just literally imagine this eleven year old girl getting on

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Speaker 3: I'm just such such an empowering move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm so glad to receive the email. You

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Speaker 1: can email us your success stories. We love hearing them.

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Speaker 1: If we've inspired any goodness in your life, we'll share it.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts at happy families dot com dot you at podcasts

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Speaker 2: with an s at happy families dot com dot you.

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Speaker 2: Right o, Kylie, let's talk about our I'll do better

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow's you go first.

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Speaker 3: My best friend, who I have not seen for a

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Speaker 1: I was desperate for a text message.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted some contact, and I was like, Kylie's

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Speaker 2: Which I mean the I'll do better tomorrows have been

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Speaker 2: got one of those emails. Your daughter will be receiving

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Speaker 2: Later, she whispered, I think I'm getting an award my

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Speaker 3: And when it comes to homeschooling, there was no way

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Speaker 3: I was really really stressed. So for her to come

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Speaker 1: Take our message.

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Speaker 2: School environment matters this so much more. I have to

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Speaker 2: and that's coming up in I'll do it to tomorrow

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Speaker 2: after break, Okay. So basic psychological needs in a class

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of anti bribery, right, I'm not big on

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Speaker 2: give you that. I've always always argued strongly against that however.

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Speaker 3: Unless it's eating an oyster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the stomachs were, not should point out, but that

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Speaker 1: So if you're trying an oyster.

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Speaker 2: Because you want to get twenty bucks, then you're never

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Speaker 3: Right, making decision to homeschool our kids has been one

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Speaker 3: It was so hard to say yes. It was so

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Speaker 1: Challenges, massive impacts.

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Speaker 3: But I wish we had have done this so much earlier.

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Speaker 2: That's the question I was liscerally going to ask you.

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Speaker 3: And I don't actually believe we could have done it

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Speaker 1: Well, our time is up.

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Speaker 2: The take home message, do what's right for your kids,

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Speaker 2: even if it's hard, and even if people think your

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Speaker 1: Have a great school holiday experience.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you get some good quality time together with you,

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