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Speaker 1: Jum Mission with Jones and Amanda from Mum and Me

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Speaker 1: is canceled. Podcast It's executive editor Claire Stevens.

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Speaker 2: I love good morning.

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Speaker 3: How are you good morning? I'm good. I am imagining

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Speaker 3: that you guys are probably slightly across married at first sight,

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe less so given that there's a war and

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Speaker 3: there are some more important things to talk about. But

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Speaker 3: you know, we can't free war.

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Speaker 2: Even pre war, I wasn't watching it so post and

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Speaker 2: during not so much. But Jonesy is obsessed, and so

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Speaker 2: I've been living vicariously through him.

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Speaker 1: I've been stogging the fires of maths. But I must

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Speaker 1: say my interest is waning me too, because last night

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Speaker 1: I just think I just don't feel it.

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Speaker 2: I see then we're our own worst enemies, because then

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Speaker 2: they say we have to make it more interesting, So

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Speaker 2: then we have this extreme behavior. Exactly we push them

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Speaker 2: to give us a more extreme show.

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Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what's happening. So I think the

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Speaker 3: experts have lost it and to talk about it, because

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Speaker 3: what's happening is that I think the drama is waning.

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Speaker 3: So the experts are thinking, we've got to start some drama.

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Speaker 3: We've got to throw some stuff out there, see what happens. So,

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Speaker 3: as two sensible people who would probably give better advice

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Speaker 3: than the experts, I want you guys to weigh in.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm happy to weigh in. Yep, I've got my

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Speaker 1: weight built on. I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: So it was the commitment ceremony, and first up we

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Speaker 3: had Kate and Matt and Kate just isn't into it.

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Speaker 3: You've just never seen somebody who's less into this person.

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Speaker 3: And he is the sort of person who says he

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Speaker 3: doesn't want sugar in his tea because he's sweet enough.

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Speaker 3: And we know that person.

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Speaker 1: Here's the sort of guy, it says, yes, breath, he's

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Speaker 1: the notebook guy, and he just I hate him and

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Speaker 1: I don't know why because he's a good guy. But

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Speaker 1: I want to punch him in the face. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not a violent person. And she has a look of

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Speaker 1: hate on her face.

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Speaker 3: And she can't wipe it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this look of hate and he's a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Did she decide to well, she basically tells the experts

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Speaker 3: the marriage so far has been a wave of disappointment,

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Speaker 3: which is incredibly positive. And she does decide to stay,

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Speaker 3: but very hesitantly, and it's sort of with some encouragement

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Speaker 3: from John Aikin, who says, you've been matched with a

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Speaker 3: guy who finds you attractive. That's a good thing. And

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Speaker 3: he wants to be affectionate with you. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: And so John Aikin is basically saying, and she is.

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Speaker 3: She's thirty eight, so in the world of maths, she's geriatric.

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Speaker 3: And he's basically saying, if somebody finds you attractive and

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Speaker 3: you're thirty eight, we've got to go for it. And

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Speaker 3: it's very, very worrying.

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Speaker 2: Do you worrying?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that at thirty eight you just got

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Speaker 3: to settle for anyone, even if he's annoying.

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Speaker 2: And I think even if you're twenty eight or a

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Speaker 2: hundred and eight, the message that you're not into him,

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Speaker 2: but he likes you. As women, we've dealt with that

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Speaker 2: many times. We live our lives. Don't be impolite.

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Speaker 1: He likes you. It's almost like an arranged marriage. But

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Speaker 1: also Matt to me looks like the sort of guy

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Speaker 1: that would he'd be up for it with a carpet run.

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Speaker 1: He he just is desperate, and he looks at the

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Speaker 1: girl and He's like, oh, hang on, I've got a

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Speaker 1: real life girl.

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Speaker 2: What messages are these? So go with us?

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Speaker 3: So go for it. It's really uncomfortable. Then we've got

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Speaker 3: Seln and Anthony, who I believe that this was's favorite.

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Speaker 1: My favorite couple, This couple they never liked each other

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Speaker 1: from the get go, and that Seln was just a

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Speaker 1: terrible piece of work. Poor old Anthony a lovely fellaw.

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Speaker 1: But so they left the show last night. But I can't,

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Speaker 1: for the life of me work out this Parting words

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Speaker 1: from John Aiken. It has been a rocky ride for

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Speaker 1: the both of you, and it's come to an end.

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Speaker 1: And we wish you all the best for the future,

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Speaker 1: and please learn from.

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Speaker 3: This and you do it different in the future.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, he put.

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Speaker 3: Them together, do a different guys, this is a really

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Speaker 3: bad division.

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Speaker 2: It's like, what do it differently? Don't go on a

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Speaker 2: television show where you're match with someone you don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that that's pretty pretty bad advice

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Speaker 3: from a psychologist who matched them in the first place, Like,

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Speaker 3: what is there to learn? And I don't think I

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Speaker 3: think that they've become worse versions of themselves. I think

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Speaker 3: that's all they can.

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Speaker 1: Learn maybeas Australia is in the sights of those guys.

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Speaker 2: But what does it tell us? What's the bigger picture, Claire?

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Speaker 2: About what you think this is the messages that women

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Speaker 2: and men are getting through all of this.

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Speaker 3: I can't even with Seln and Anthony. I just look

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Speaker 3: at it and go, I don't understand what anyone was

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Speaker 3: trying there. I think they were matched because they both

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Speaker 3: happened to have a child separately, and the experts are like,

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Speaker 3: you both have children, therefore you're inherently compatible. And love

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Speaker 3: is more complicated than that. We all know that. So

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Speaker 3: people feel like failures when they haven't gotten along with

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Speaker 3: somebody who they had absolutely nothing in common with.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because we know it's a TV show, but

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Speaker 2: we're still seeing relationships represented, and we're seeing experts saying, hey, girly,

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Speaker 2: he likes you to go with it.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: And then we had a final couple, Selena and Cody,

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Speaker 3: and Cody has admitted he has no empathy. I think

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Speaker 3: that that's a big red flag. That's not like sometimes

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I'm a bit of a messy person.

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Speaker 3: I'm a bit late saying I've got no empathy. Not

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Speaker 3: a normal not a normal.

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Speaker 1: Character flaw unless it's a serial killer or a hit

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Speaker 1: man or something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And so Selena is obviously quite concerned and upset

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Speaker 3: about this, but expert mel just decides to go Selena,

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Speaker 3: and she's like, well, how are you contributing to this?

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Speaker 3: Because you know every relationship it goes both ways, it's

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Speaker 3: both sides. And I'm like, I don't think it is always.

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Speaker 3: I think if you've got no empathy, you're probably the problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

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Speaker 2: So another example of the woman being told suck it

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Speaker 2: up and stay exactly.

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Speaker 1: Just smile and go along with a girlie.

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Speaker 3: It's it's not gonna end well. So basically we have

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Speaker 3: experts meddling trying to create some drama, which, let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep watching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Claire, this is being great Claire Stevens. Check

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Speaker 1: her out the podcast canceled. You'll see Claire and Claire

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Speaker 1: will see you next week. Jonesy and Amanda's donation